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3781  Local / Wiki, documentation et traduction / Re: La différence entre les portefeuilles chaud et froid on: August 31, 2019, 07:36:52 PM
Oui mais la seed d'un Ledger / Trezor on la stocke où ?

Il y a des débutants très débutants qui ne comprennent pas par ignorance ou par négligence....

Même quelqu'un expérimenté peut bêtement se faire avoir. Voilà un appartement cambriolé, avec le Ledger disparu, y compris la seed : https://twitter.com/FrenchyCrypto/status/1167507027251343360



Malheureusement ce genre de cas arrivera de plus en plus souvent à l'avenir. J'ai même déjà entendu certaines personnes (des bitcoiners) commencé à y réfléchir en gros... Aujourd'hui les mémés se font voller leur sacs dans la rue, dans 20 ans ca sera des Ledgers et autres wallets. On ne verra plus de car jacking, ils chercheront des BTC.

Le mec doit avoir les boules mais Il avait pas du cacher la seed si bien que ca. 'tin il lui ont même volé les papiers
3782  Local / Le Bitcoin et la loi / Re: Stockage de cryptomonnaie des autres utilisateurs sur mon site on: August 31, 2019, 07:21:20 PM
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Bonjour, je développe actuellement un projet et je vais devoir stocker les bitcoins ainsi que d'autres cryptomonnaies de mes utilisateurs sur un de mes serveurs, je voulais savoir si c'est bon avec la loi Française (le fait de stocker les cryptomonnaies des autres sur mes serveurs) car je ne trouve pas d'information ? Dois-je déclaré quelque chose ? sans parler de plus-value et tout ça, juste le stockage.

A partir du moment que tu es en règle avec la réglementation je ne vois pas le probleme. Il y a 2-3 sites tels que Paymium en France, alors pourquoi pas toi. Apres ca depend comment ton projet est présenté. Si tu fais ca un peu underground c'est autre chose

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Et si je met une fonctionnalité pour que les gens puisse également échanger des cryptomonnaie contre d'autre (pas de monnaie fiduciaire), là encore y'a t-il quelque chose de spécial à déclaré ? un genre de licence à acquérir ? un droit ? Ce n'est pas pour faire une plateforme d'échange à la base donc cette fonctionnalité je m'en fiche un peu c'est surtout la première question qui m'intéresse.

Je crois que c'est plutot du coté du statut de l'entreprise que d'une licence qu'il faut regarder
3783  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: 2019 List Bitcoin Mixers Bitcoin Tumblers Websites on: August 31, 2019, 12:00:01 AM
UP!

Chipmixer.se scam/clone of Chipmixer.com

I accidentally found it because I was using another IP (and got a different SERP)
3784  Local / Débutants / Re: Achat par téléphone on: August 30, 2019, 06:03:48 PM
Je crois que vous commencé à confondre un téléphone portable et fixe.
En tout cas faudra me dire comment vous faites pour envoyer des SMS avec un fixe

Si c'est un portable fournit par l'entreprise  c'est toi le responsable, cela va de soit.
Pour les fixes ca depend de l'entreprise et comment sont foutus les postes. Mais sinon, au contraire c'est pas tres difficile. Surtout quand certains collégues sont en repos.
Perso, j'appel ca du vol, c'est le licenciement direct. Oui, ca coute pas cher un coup de fil bla bla bla mais quand même.


Quand t'arrive au taf le lundi et qu'on te dit, tu peux te rhabiller et repartir chez toi, t'inquiet ca calme Grin
3785  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Binance Hackers Bombard Chipmixer to Launder at Least 4,836 BTC on: August 30, 2019, 05:43:23 PM
@CoinClarity Thank you for the clarifying information.

...I can't think about any other safe destination for stolen coins. It is not practical to transfer the stolen coins directly to exchanges.

It is... Certainly less in 2019 but it's always been, more or less. For years it was almost usual. There was no 'control' or 'analysis'. There were hardly any experts. And the exchanges either didn't care or didn't have the needed resources.

After a few years, it began to change It's not something that's openly announced but I can tell you that the biggest exchanges (Kraken, Bitstamp and others) work together to fight against funds coming from a hack or other. For example, to block coins received, etc.

After that, it started to be public when some exchanges proudly announced: "We blocked the coins of this hack".
It has become an opportunity to promote themselves. But they really work together when necessary. Unfortunately, there are still a lot of exchanges that still don't care where the coins come from, or don't have the resources (like back in the earlier days)

Someone else (@CoinClarity?) was posting a pic about coinjoin transactions. It's possible to make your bitcoins looking not used with CJ
3786  Local / Le Bitcoin et la loi / Re: Nouveau decret sur la crypto monnaie on: August 30, 2019, 04:45:56 PM
Je profite du thread pour up avec une question toute conne.

On est d'accord que les comptes exchange sont à déclarer en même temps que la déclaration de revenu avec le formulaire n°3916 mais uniquement l'année prochaine? Je me suis pas planté d'un an hein?

Les avis divergent un peu. Pour moi, oui l'année prochaine. De plus que le formulaire 3916 n'est pas adapté pour declarer des comptes sur des plateformes. Pour certains c'est à faire des cette année

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En théorie cette obligation n'était attendue qu'en 2020, mais la plupart des avocats fiscalistes recommandent de le faire pour se prémunir d’une éventuelle interprétation extensive de l'article 1649 du Code général des impôts. Selon nos sources, plusieurs contrôles fiscaux ont été diligentés et il semble plus prudent de montrer patte blanche.
https://www.capital.fr/votre-argent/impots-fiscalite-du-bitcoin-tous-les-detenteurs-dun-compte-doivent-le-declarer-au-fisc-1339383
3787  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: How to file a patent? on: August 30, 2019, 10:41:49 AM
You don't really need a lawyer and it's not as expensive as someone says. Spending from $1k to $4k at max is peanuts for a company, and if there is no budget for, then there is a problem in the 'set up'

Do you really need to file the patent in the US? There, it's USPTO in charge of cases regardin the protection of inventions and trademarks. It decides whether or not to grant a patent.

But you can use PCT to file a patent application in several countries at the same time https://www.wipo.int/pct/en/
(it doesn't include the US, only USPTO can deliver it)
3788  Other / Meta / Re: Theymos vs Roger Ver on: August 29, 2019, 10:20:00 PM
Topic Roger Ver is talking about in the video
Archival > A public plea for help regarding Bitcoinica and my 24,841 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93140

But a topic is still here
Trading Discussion (Moderator: Cyrus) > A public plea for help regarding Bitcoinica and my 24,841 BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93110.msg1027941#msg1027941


The archived topic comes from the Russian forum. This man takes any opportunity to talk bad about BTC or BTC related stuff

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Maybe it has something to do with issues of his own Games gambling website being accused of SCAM
No mate, this is Roger Ver lifestyle (misleading people, lying, posting fake pictures, fake events,...)
3789  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto, Universal income and cryogenics the redistribution of wealth on: August 29, 2019, 09:19:36 PM
About the Universal basic income.

I don't know enough, but it's the thing where everyone would make the same amount of money, no matter what's your job?

Young people are not going to go to school for 10 years to become doctors if it is to earn the same salary as the one working at Mac Donald's.
The redistribution of wealth, yes, but the one who doesn't do anything with his life and watches Youtube all day long, he lives as well as the one who works hard? What the hell is this? They have a free house, free food, free pocket money, free everything, I call this already the redistribution of wealth


Didn't expect you to make this blunder.

As others have pointed out. It is not what you say.

Universal Basic Income is something that everyone will receive no matter what. You can of course be a doctor and make more money or a teacher or anything that your heart pleases. But that's your job. What happens if you are unable to work or are penniless? You become a drag on your relatives or the government.

At such instances, the basic income is something that you would receive in your bank account would be like free money that the government would provide you so that you can afford to live.

On paper this can be a game changer, although there are many pros and cons to this system.

a blunder? Excuse me to not be an economics dictionary lol

But I think I got it and I think the same. Lazy people will stay on a sofa all days. In my country, they have it already (not exactly called the same).
They get a free house, free health insurance, etc... And they earn near the same as someone working (perhaps 3% less) Shocked Every month the money hits their bank account. Doing nothing mate. Why would they want to work for i.e. $1000 while they already get $950

if you are unable to work or are penniless then it's simple, go to find a job. It seems normal.

If people already working with a salary will get a 'second salary' I won't refuse free money  Cheesy
3790  Local / Le Bitcoin et la loi / Re: BITCOIN ET COMPTABILITE POUR SOCIETE on: August 29, 2019, 04:54:59 PM
Je ne vois pas le rapport entre l'investissement et la TVA ?

Si une société peut investir son capital dans d'autres actifs elle a aussi le droit de le faire en bitcoin. Et ça ça dépend uniquement de la forme de la société, de ses statuts.

Oui mais pour la gestion au quotidien, du moins en Europe et à fortiori en France, il est impossible pour une société de fonctionner en BTC. L’exemple de la TVA est bien choisi car je vois mal une entreprise régler la somme due au fisc en BTC.

Sachant qu'il parlait de société investissant...
Les sociétés ne paient pas de TVA sur des investissements de toute facon(?), en compta ca rentre dans de l'actif immobilisé du bilan.

Mais sinon dans la gestion du quotidien, fonctionner 100% en Bitcoin non, je suis d'accord, une entreprise n'a quand même pas le choix d'avoir un compte et payer en Euro, (payer les fourinsseurs et autres) mais cela n'empeche pas de jouer avec les 2
3791  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BUYER BEWARE: SESTERCE MINING (FORMERLY BITECH) SCAM on: August 29, 2019, 02:54:42 PM
..


5)   https://www.pre-plainte-en-ligne.gouv.fr/
6)   https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/mentions-legales-infos-pratiques/nous-ecrire/

#5 does nothing until you come to France and go to a police station. It's not really a 'pre-suit' also, you just win some minutes in the police office. Another thing, the service is to make a statement for facts of which you do not know the author, but you do

#6 is the minister for foreign relations and diplomacy, for expatriates, or people who want to adopt a kid in a foreign country, etc

3792  Local / Débutants / Re: Achat par téléphone on: August 29, 2019, 01:52:01 PM
Salut a tous, merci pour vos réponses. En ce qui concerne deskoin comme tu as si bien dit trop de scandale donc pas intéressant. Paxfull je connait déjà et j'ai un forfait en faite ce que je veux faire c'est investir sur du long terme style 15 20 euros par mois mais pendant x année car j'ai un forfait mobile que je ne paye pas ( les avantages de la vie 😁 ).
Et c'est exactement ça qui m'intéresse : Style, comment acheter des BTC par SMS ?
A ce jour je n'ai trouver que coingate qui propose ce genre de service avec le mobile balance, mais je voulais savoir si d'autres site proposait le même genre de service pour voir le plus intéressant actuellement coingate propose un apelle à 20euros et je récupère 9euros dessus.
Et encore merci pour vos réponses et votre aide.

Il y a quelque chose que je comprend pas. C'est que normalement les gens utilisent le solde d'une carte SIM prépayée, pour ne pas perdre leur crédit. Si tu utilise ton forfait c'est compté en hors forfait (numeros speciaux), c'est pas décompté des minutes restantes.
Ou alors un truc que j'ai  loupé, et comme j'ai 2-3 forfaits qui servent pas... Roll Eyes

Payer 20€ pour récuperer 9€ ca suce et je vois pas trop l'interet (si c'est compté en hors forfait) A moins que cela soit la seule option pour toi?
3793  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Check if your site is scam and doesn't pay mining, hyip, revshare monitor on: August 29, 2019, 01:23:09 PM
...It is scam monitor site, created only for that purpose...

All HYIPs monitors are scams, they're paid to list a website on their site and often they're also paid to keep a site listed as 'Paying'. They include a referral link because it's part of the deals with HYIP owner.
As well reinvest any $ earned from commission (so the monitor can also post on forums and get paid for)

Some of the most popular monitors are owned by someone who managed an HYIP before. :/
3794  Economy / Speculation / Re: Huge drop happening within 48 hours! on: August 28, 2019, 05:18:48 PM
I told it some days ago, wouldn't be surprised if it goes below $7,500. But now I'm more and more confident the scenario will happen.
At least we will be fixed to know if the downtrend continues or not. We turned to a fear period for some days.

By the way




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Possibility for major breakout?

We have a large ascending triangle on both 3hr candle and RSI
If accurate we should breakout this large sym triangle within 3 days

Bears are still lurking and a possibility for 8k
All depends on legitimacy of this ascending triangle imo Smiley
https://twitter.com/TheCryptomist/status/1166347470902833154
3795  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin mixers be considered illegal by worldwide governments? on: August 28, 2019, 11:51:11 AM
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So you expect to see a mixer (supposed to anonymize you) applying a KYC legislation? That doesn't make sense in any way.
Whoever uses such service does not necessarily mean he has something to hide, as well that doesn't mean he's doing anything illegal.

It's called having the right to privacy because people don't need to know what you do with your money. What would you say if your bank account history was accessible to everyone on a monthly basis?
3796  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Chainalysis research reveals: only a small percentage of mixed coins are illegal on: August 28, 2019, 12:31:06 AM
For once Chainalysis doesn't publish something to say bad things about mixers...

We can see that there are many different user types that use mixers, (and some use multiple mixers to mix their bitcoin, for obvious reasons) but I would have thought the gambling rate would be much more significant. Knowing that exchanges platforms do not accept TXs coming from betting sites & co, I wonder how gamblers deal with it (or they all lose their money on betting, the house always win, it's true lol)
3797  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [HAVE] $570 and 180 EUR Paypal [WANT] BTC ETH (1:1 green trusted Legendary user) on: August 27, 2019, 11:57:04 PM
PM sent
3798  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Address that can lock Bitcoins and then release them aftter a specified time on: August 27, 2019, 11:10:31 PM
@Theb

Yeah, it's a similar thing. Let's say it's based on a 'condition'. I had read his comment yesterday and I had also thought about the stop-limit order.
The difference is the condition for a stop-loss order is based on a price. While the condition for @shield132 idea would be based on a date for example.

But like @TryNinja I didn't see the point, @shield132 says it's good for those who can't hold. I think if someone can't hold on their own BTC, they're better to use a 3rd party like coinbase, and they shouldn't start to use something like that if it's a newbie. If it's a matter of price then a limit order is the point to use
3799  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance Lending on: August 27, 2019, 10:30:21 PM
There is not much information about it. What or who are the funds for?

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On the redemption date, you will see both the principal amount and the interest accrued in your Binance account ‘balances’. This process will be automatic.

So they pay everything back (principal + interest rate) only at the end? Not interesting if the redemption date is 1 year later for exemple


 

I don't think that they are legally allowed to delete your information in the first few years. But even if they were, nothing prevents them from pleasing you by saying 'we deleted your information' while in reality they didn't do it. If you also take into consideration that they use a third party KYC desk, Binance itself isn't even in control of people's KYC information. Undecided

It may be different since GDPR. The person has the right to obtain from the service to erase any personal data related to him/her and the company has the obligation to erase anything as soon as possible. Especially since Binance was hacked at least once, it may be considered as a legal reason to ask to Binance to delete data. (no matter if it was handled by a 3rd party, it will have too to remove everything asked)

The thing, it forces the company to remove anything about you only from its servers but not from their archives. Because as any company, it keeps archives for different reasons (accounting, etc) and no choice to keep it otherwise the company is breaking a law.
3800  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Any services like TheBigCoin? (Pay fiat invoices with Bitcoin) on: August 27, 2019, 10:11:13 PM

I think this could be a pretty popular thing if implemented correctly. I would probably use such a site instead of buying giftcards for amazon @ a 10% markup rate.

I considered the demand too low for such services (maybe wrongly) and the fact there are already a few websites (as quoted) old and established for some.

Basically, I could even process to pay the bills instantly for the EU and use other currencies for others. As well, a gift cards option, (with a 1:1 rate and no crazy rates). Can't say much, in case I was wrong (I'll do a KW research again) but it was something a little more advanced
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