Baby steps into user & shop adoption - but very enlightening !  And how is this any different to the bitcoin card I have already |
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Sorry if this has been answered but are you guys going to implement segwit in the future and lightening network support for atomic swap?
NO , SEGSHIT has been patent by shitcore devs. Any coin they uses it , shitcore can sue. Use exchanges Offchain processing which works right now.╥Aztek Claims "Lightning is Centralised" then recommends people use exchanges that have a single point of failure and when hacked you lose everything There are multiple exchanges that process offchain transactions dum dum, pick one. * Also Exchanges don't require Timelocking of funds for weeks/months like shitnet will. * Why are you such an idiot today?*Banking cartels telling you to step up your bullshit.* ╥Aztek So what you are saying is pick the one you think is less likely to be hacked to minimise your potential losses or spread out over them all and don't forget to give then all copies of your ID to potentially be stolen by some hacker group selling it to the highest bidder on the black market could you let me know which exchange I need to use a local starbucks or do they support all the exchanges or do the different exchanges all route through each other I saying Exchanges are working right NOW!. Exchanges do not require Time Locking , meaning I can receive funds and immediately move it off the exchange to my personal wallet. Your ShitNet locks in the funds for weeks/months at a time, giving a hacker more time to steal from the shitnet hub before you even find out about it. All an exchange user has to do is give you a screen name and you send the funds to him offchain. Cryptopia is one of the exchanges with that capability and it works right now! A world easier than that shitnet vaporware you keep preaching about. ╥Aztek I don't know about you but I have to go through KYC and AML checks to use exchanges and don't feel like having to hand over personal ID to every exchange I want to use And you think LN Banks are not going to require those checks. Man, go to another coin forum that uses segshit, you are wasting all of our damn time with your banking cartel loving bullshit.╥Aztek LN hubs do not use ID checks they don't know who it belongs to just where it came from last and where it goes to next When they receive a transaction the hub does not know if the one being received is from the sender or just being relayed and when passing it on they do not know if it's going to it's destination or if it will be relayed further |
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Sorry if this has been answered but are you guys going to implement segwit in the future and lightening network support for atomic swap?
NO , SEGSHIT has been patent by shitcore devs. Any coin they uses it , shitcore can sue. Use exchanges Offchain processing which works right now.╥Aztek Claims "Lightning is Centralised" then recommends people use exchanges that have a single point of failure and when hacked you lose everything There are multiple exchanges that process offchain transactions dum dum, pick one. * Also Exchanges don't require Timelocking of funds for weeks/months like shitnet will. * Why are you such an idiot today?*Banking cartels telling you to step up your bullshit.* ╥Aztek So what you are saying is pick the one you think is less likely to be hacked to minimise your potential losses or spread out over them all and don't forget to give then all copies of your ID to potentially be stolen by some hacker group selling it to the highest bidder on the black market could you let me know which exchange I need to use a local starbucks or do they support all the exchanges or do the different exchanges all route through each other I saying Exchanges are working right NOW!. Exchanges do not require Time Locking , meaning I can receive funds and immediately move it off the exchange to my personal wallet. Your ShitNet locks in the funds for weeks/months at a time, giving a hacker more time to steal from the shitnet hub before you even find out about it. All an exchange user has to do is give you a screen name and you send the funds to him offchain. Cryptopia is one of the exchanges with that capability and it works right now! A world easier than that shitnet vaporware you keep preaching about. ╥Aztek I don't know about you but I have to go through KYC and AML checks to use exchanges and don't feel like having to hand over personal ID to every exchange I want to use |
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This is the future shame BCH can't do it
In the controlled conditions of a lab, any coin can do this. Get to me when there is a solution working in the wild. It's been tested on mainnet successfully routing through various hops using all the different implementations of lightning with public beta for everyone to use being released soon Released soon , is NOT Released Now!Still vaporware until then.When shitnet is released, you think people will need a 4 year degree before they can understand all of the stupid hoops it will make them jump thru. Or Will the shitnet banks, just say give us your money , we will do it all for you because you are too stupid to understand this convoluted shitnet system, that was designed to be too hard for 70% of the populace to use.  ╥Aztek Payment channels can be created automatic so its pretty simple 1. Visit site 2. scan code (payment amount is included and shown) 3. press send/pay 4. if a routable payment channel exists then payment is sent and transaction is complete otherwise a routable channel is created and then payment is sent then transaction is complete Thats it You are a known troll already here Why are you coming here to troll? And more importantly, why do you come to this forum to tell Fud? instead of going to your forum to celebrate how well your 4-step LN is doing + the 4 steps of opening channel + the 4 steps of closing channel We know that you are a very good person and you just want to help us so that we do not make the mistake of investing in bch (ironia on). But no thanks, we do not need FOMO and FUD In bch you only need one step, send ..., and best of all WHICH IS ALREADY WORKING, ln are more promises to arrive that require 4 steps + 4 steps + ..... Opening and closing of channels is done automatic and handled by your wallet in the background but you can still open a channel manually if you wish |
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Sorry if this has been answered but are you guys going to implement segwit in the future and lightening network support for atomic swap?
NO , SEGSHIT has been patent by shitcore devs. Any coin they uses it , shitcore can sue. Use exchanges Offchain processing which works right now.╥Aztek Claims "Lightning is Centralised" then recommends people use exchanges that have a single point of failure and when hacked you lose everything There are multiple exchanges that process offchain transactions dum dum, pick one. * Also Exchanges don't require Timelocking of funds for weeks/months like shitnet will. * Why are you such an idiot today?*Banking cartels telling you to step up your bullshit.* ╥Aztek So what you are saying is pick the one you think is less likely to be hacked to minimise your potential losses or spread out over all of them and don't forget to give them all copies of your ID to potentially be stolen by some hacker group selling it to the highest bidder on the black market could you let me know which exchange I need to use a local starbucks or do they support all the exchanges or do the different exchanges all route through each other |
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Sorry if this has been answered but are you guys going to implement segwit in the future and lightening network support for atomic swap?
NO , SEGSHIT has been patent by shitcore devs. Any coin they uses it , shitcore can sue. Use exchanges Offchain processing which works right now.╥Aztek Claims "Lightning is Centralised" then recommends people use exchanges that have a single point of failure and when hacked you lose everything Im sure when Ver said the same thing about MtGox and told everyone not to worry that worked too that was until it was hacked and millions was vapourised and yes I had money in MtGox not much though 2-3 BTC most of what I had was offline |
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You create a channel and a fee is only paid when you make a payment if you don't send anything they cannot charge you a fee
And you are making shit up to back up what you think
You are making up shit , as your vaporware has not been released.Try to stick to reality instead of your B.S. vaporware. ╥Aztek I've used it on testnet with the android eclair wallet where this is already active and is the exact same as what will be released on mainnet so even though it's not currently on mainnet I have used it and it has been used on mainnet there are transactions on the main chain right now from lighting channels |
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sending $10000 costs the exact same to mine and store as $0.01 does it make any sense for all those $0.10 micropayments to be stored on the chain forever
Ain't it much better to store safe and secure your vast wealth on the chain and for all the little nonsense transactions that you will potentially make to be forgotten about straight away I mean do you really care that much that you can look back on your life 20 years from now and say here was my first coffee I had with bitcoin
Giving control over a new monetary supply to the Banking cartels so they can continue enslaving the populace with their fractional reserve shenanigans is beyond stupid. And that is the purpose of ShitNet & SegShit. With Shitnet and their so called routable channels, they will decide whom you may transact with and have the ability to confiscate your funds, abilities they do not have without segshit & shitnet. ╥Aztek LN Node operators cannot confiscate funds it's a timelocked contract enforced by the main chain LN is designed to be trustless meaning you do not need to trust the node operators it is not in their interest to try and cheat you and if they do try then you can close the channel with all funds yours and theirs LN NODES CAN CONFISCATE FUNDS. They can charge Fees and removed them until they removed your entire amount. Banks make money by charging Fee, the Banking cartels are going to run the LN Hubs and determine the routes and the fees structure. Like I said, you ignore too many details. ╥Aztek You create a channel and a fee is only paid when you make a payment if you don't send anything they cannot charge you a fee And you are making shit up to back up what you think |
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sending $10000 costs the exact same to mine and store as $0.01 does it make any sense for all those $0.10 micropayments to be stored on the chain forever
Ain't it much better to store safe and secure your vast wealth on the chain and for all the little nonsense transactions that you will potentially make to be forgotten about straight away I mean do you really care that much that you can look back on your life 20 years from now and say here was my first coffee I had with bitcoin
Giving control over a new monetary supply to the Banking cartels so they can continue enslaving the populace with their fractional reserve shenanigans is beyond stupid. And that is the purpose of ShitNet & SegShit. With Shitnet and their so called routable channels, they will decide whom you may transact with and have the ability to confiscate your funds, abilities they do not have without segshit & shitnet. ╥Aztek LN Node operators cannot confiscate funds it's a timelocked contract enforced by the main chain LN is designed to be trustless meaning you do not need to trust the node operators it is not in their interest to try and cheat you and if they do try then you can close the channel with all funds yours and theirs I don't know where you get fractional reserves from if I open a channel for 0.1BTC then we both have effectively locked 0.1BTC they cannot use that to then create a channel with someone else If you only have 1BTC then you can only have active channels worth up to 1BTC |
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Well Craig Wright has been touting that they are working on ways to optimize they way BCH handles the transactions and and will be switching to unlimited blocks sometime in 2018. Shall we consider that Vaporware too?  Until it is released in the real world, then yes it is all vaporware. Bitcoin Cash does not currently have any scaling problems, segshit does. ╥Aztek And instead of releasing a short term fix that will then probably need to HF again for one that's longer term bitcoin is releasing a long term fix now that will scale far beyond unlimited block sizes why didn't cash just remove the block limit from day 1 if it was that easy. It is still unknown how well a unlimited block will handle millions of tx/s but nodes will become very expensive to run and the free wallets may not be able to afford to run the nodes they require to operate and in the future start requiring a monthly subscription or a fixed purchase price to cover the operating costs for the wallet node They released a solution that fixes the problem for the next 4 years, trying to fix a solution 50 years away , when you have no idea what technology will be available in the next 10 years shows a stupidity rare in the world. Until 8 MB blocks are full on a consistent basis, there is really no point to upgrade BCH. Funny you argue 8MB is not enough and yet have hundreds of thousands of unconfirmed transactions waiting on 1mb and you want to sit on your hands and wait for the shitnet vaporware. Too Funny. ╥Aztek sending $10000 costs the exact same to mine and store as $0.01 does it make any sense for all those $0.10 micropayments to be stored on the chain forever Ain't it much better to store safe and secure your vast wealth on the chain and for all the little nonsense transactions that you will potentially make to be forgotten about straight away I mean do you really care that much that you can look back on your life 20 years from now and say here was my first coffee I had with bitcoin enough to clog up terabytes/petabytes etc worth of data for years to come |
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Well Craig Wright has been touting that they are working on ways to optimize they way BCH handles the transactions and and will be switching to unlimited blocks sometime in 2018. Shall we consider that Vaporware too? Until it is released in the real world, then yes it is all vaporware. Bitcoin Cash does not currently have any scaling problems, segshit does. ╥Aztek And instead of releasing a short term fix that will then probably need to HF again for one that's longer term bitcoin is releasing a long term fix now that will scale far beyond unlimited block sizes why didn't cash just remove the block limit from day 1 if it was that easy. It is still unknown how well a unlimited block will handle millions of tx/s but nodes will become very expensive to run and the free wallets may not be able to afford to run the nodes they require to operate and in the future start requiring a monthly subscription or a fixed purchase price to cover the operating costs for the wallet node |
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Payment channels can be created automatic so its pretty simple
1. Visit site
2. scan code (payment amount is included and shown)
3. press send/pay
4. if a routable payment channel exists then payment is sent and transaction is complete otherwise a routable channel is created and then payment is sent then transaction is complete
Thats it
If it is going to be so easy, what is keeping the dumbasses from releasing it.You left out a crap load of Alice & Bob examples, plus the timelocks, that people need to understand. You seem to leave out details all of the time, it is almost like you are doing it on purpose.  ╥Aztek 1.Its called testing when you are dealing with a multi billion network you cannot afford mistakes 2. The alice and bob examples of how things work behind the scenes and whats going off in the background when you buy something with visa do you know exactly what happens behind the scenes 3. Timelocks you mean the opening and closing of the channel something that happens automatic |
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This is the future shame BCH can't do it
In the controlled conditions of a lab, any coin can do this. Get to me when there is a solution working in the wild. It's been tested on mainnet successfully routing through various hops using all the different implementations of lightning with public beta for everyone to use being released soon Released soon , is NOT Released Now!Still vaporware until then.When shitnet is released, you think people will need a 4 year degree before they can understand all of the stupid hoops it will make them jump thru. Or Will the shitnet banks, just say give us your money , we will do it all for you because you are too stupid to understand this convoluted shitnet system, that was designed to be too hard for 70% of the populace to use. ╥Aztek Payment channels can be created automatic so its pretty simple 1. Visit site 2. scan code (payment amount is included and shown) 3. press send/pay 4. if a routable payment channel exists then payment is sent and transaction is complete otherwise a routable channel is created and then payment is sent then transaction is complete Thats it |
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This is the future shame BCH can't do it
In the controlled conditions of a lab, any coin can do this. Get to me when there is a solution working in the wild. It's been tested on mainnet successfully routing through various hops using all the different implementations of lightning with public beta for everyone to use being released soon |
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Why one txid from Aug 1st in BTC chain has different addresses in BTG chain? Shouldn´t be the same?
txid: 9147d6ad1976f4250a5acc8f048037fddc3d108a03bed22d8dd0c88ad84ae936
BTC chain: 9147d6ad1976f4250a5acc8f048037fddc3d108a03bed22d8dd0c88ad84ae936
3FzK9NvcVLKDkSY13RaQmsR36zmb2cTYc2
 1DhemJ6bqS69XXLPNmS11sGUDdZvV1z2KN 0.0005 BTC
3BE2W2vrtoZeegdaMGFtrzqrY6Q22vz5hH 0.36766913 BTC
0.36816913 BTC
BTG chain:
AW5AsLHoGaezUF3ZUya9W8KCS5QZr394Cj 0.36819738
Outputs
GWYaBRRYpHhSbzdgJi67SdcN8oMmY8tDDd 0.00050000
ARJtDzJ3g3uRNV98npFdbFk1sB2zm8qJi9 0.36766913
What`s it?
It's normal both addresses have the same private key but because BTG use a different address format the public key you see get generated differently so result in a different visible address Go to bitaddress.org and generate a new address now import the private key into both a Bitcoin wallet and a Bitcoin Gold wallet You will see different public addresses BTC will start 1xxxxxx BTG will start Gxxxxxx |
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Let's see where Bitcoin Cash is going. Roger Ver bought the bitcoin.com domain because he believes that Bitcoin Cash is going to be rebranded to Bitcoin and that Bitcoin core is going to be the Bitcoin Classic, mainly because he believes that BCH it's the true vision of Satoshi. I really would like that Satoshi could give his own opinion about all this.
And he is proved to be wrong there is no flippening. Bitcoin is shining after futures 20K incoming <33333 There was a image posted on twitter a bit back supposedly from jihan on some chinese site poorly translated talks about the death of BCH  |
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i hate to tell you, but dump your bch bags while you still can
I agree but for what reason do you say so too heavily manipulated We've been telling you that all along why listen now because, the whole crypto market is being manipulated, although not as heavily as far as bch is concerned, and I bought at a cheap price, so I could hardly care less Since it is heavily manipulated, I am sure the manipulators will surely pump it up again to make profit. I will just hold some and wait until it happens. All the time it's being manipulated they are loosing money and won't do if forever I would be concerned about a 51% attack also because the unknown miner has plenty of hashing to do this and effectively could sell everything mined from day one until now while mining a longer chain silently on the side and not including their own transactions. After it's confirmed and everything sold them publish the new longer chain as this would be valid and deemed the genuine chain and then spend everything again for a massive exit scam You really need to understand what a 51% attack is and how easily one can be performed |
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i hate to tell you, but dump your bch bags while you still can
I agree but for what reason do you say so too heavily manipulated We've been telling you that all along why listen now |
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i hate to tell you, but dump your bch bags while you still can
I agree but for what reason do you say so |
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