If you're asking, i'd say more than $1k++ (at the very least).
I'm advising you to buy as much ETH as you can while its cheap now. Its the best altcoin already used by many.
I don’t know why people consider eth as a great source of profit. Eths are not going to reach even 1K dollars in the coming years. I see it as perishing away in the coming decade. Altcoins are just fake coins. They are just wasting money and time of people. I guess bitcoins are the only best investments. If you truly believe Altcoins have no future, then go ahead, take 10k$ and open a 5x leveraged short position on ETH. Set take profit to 5$, no stop loss. Your profit would be 48k$. Sounds nice? I mean, you are sure about this, no? Oh, yes give us a proof each week, that you are still holding this position, even if the price goes to 1000, and your balance is in deep red. I bet you dare not. |
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Der Fachbegriff dafür lautet Stop Loss Order, sprich ein Auftrag um den Verlust zu begrenzen.
1: Nachdem du das jetzt weißt, unter Advanced bei Order Typ "Stop Loss" auswählen, der Rest sollte denke ich selbsterklärend sein.
2: Leverage oder zu deutsch Hebel. Zunächst eine Warnung: Wenn du keine Ahnung hast was das ist, solltest du dringend die Finger davon lassen. Aber um es zu erklären:
Angenommen 1 BTC kostet 3000€. Wenn du dir nun für 600€ mit 5-fach Hebel BTC kaufst, dann würdest du 1 BTC bekommen, dh. du hinterlegst 600€ (=Margin) und der Exchange leiht dir das Geld um 1 BTC zu kaufen.
Diesen BTC erhälst du aber nicht wirklich, denn er gehört nicht wirklich dir, er ist nur geliehen. Du kannst den nicht für 3000€ verkaufen oder auf dein Wallet schieben, sondern du machst nur eine Kaufposition auf, den du nachher mit Gewinn oder Verlust wieder schließen kannst. Wenn der Kurs von BTC nun um 600€ steigt auf 3600€, dann erhälst du den vollen Gewinn, und nicht nur 1/5. Schließt du jetzt diese Position, dann erhälst du deine 600€ Einsatz + die 600€ Gewinn. Du denkst dir, hey cool, wieso macht das nicht jeder? Du trägst natürlich auch den vollen Verlust, wenn der Kurs sinkt. Sinkt der Kurs auf 2400€ runter, sind deine 600€ futsch und du musst die Position schließen, bzw er wird dir zwangsgeschloßen, da ansonsten dein Konto ins Minus fallen würde, sofern du nicht genug frei verfügbares Geld darauf hast (=Margin Call). Sollte der Preis z.B um 900€ fallen, und du hast noch genug Geld auf Kraken, das frei verfügbar ist, dann werden dir von da die zusätzlichen 300€ als weiteren Einsatz abgezogen. Daher sollte man bei gehebelten Positionen immer darauf achten, nie 100% seines Geldes einzusetzen.
Im Vergleich dazu, hättest du dir um 600€ ganz normal BTC gekauft, dann würden dir 0,2 BTC gehören. Wenn der Kurs um 600€ steigt, dann würdest du nur 120€ Gewinn machen. Aber egal wie der Kurs sinkt, diese 0,2 BTC gehören dir, und solange es BTC existiert und du sie nicht verkaufst, hast du (noch) keinen wirklichen Verlust erfahren und kannst immer noch darauf hoffen, dass der Kurs wieder steigt. Es kostet dich nichts, die 0,2 BTC einfach 5 Jahre rumliegen zu lassen, bis sie irgendwann mehr Wert sind.
Da dir die Bank Geld leiht, musst du täglich Zinsen zahlen solange die Position offen ist. Hier kannst du nicht einfach sagen, ich lass die Position 5 Jahre lang offen, irgendwann wird der Preis schon ins Plus gehen. Die Zinsen werden irgendwann deinen Gewinn zunichte machen.
Das ganze kannst du aber auch in die andere Richtung machen, dh. BTC verkaufen, wenn du gar keine hast. Du hinterlegst genauso 600€ und sagst du willst BTC mit 5-fach Hebel verkaufen. Fällt der Kurs um 600€, erhälst du in dem Fall Gewinn, steigt der Kurs um 600€ ist dein Geld weg.
Im Prinzip ist das wie eine Art Wette, du plazierst einen Einsatz und wettest darauf, ob der Kurs steigt oder sinkt. Der Gewinn bzw. Verlust ist die Preisdifferenz. Daher nennt man sowas auch CFD (Contracts for Difference / Differenzkontrakt). Das ganze ist nicht geeignet für langfristiges Investment, sondern nur für kurzfristige bis mittelfristige Spekulationen. Mit einem kleinen Einsatz kannst du viel gewinnen, aber auch viel verlieren.
Man kann das Ganze aber auch zum Hedgen nutzen. Angenommen du hast BTC im Wert von 5000€. Wenn du jetzt aber glaubst, der Preis könnte in den nächsten Tagen stark fallen, möchtest deine BTC aber nicht gleich verkaufen, denn was ist wenn er doch steigt? Dann machst du mit 1000€ Einsatz eine Short (Sell) Position auf mit 5-fach Hebel. Das hätte dann den selben Wert wie deine BTCs. Sinkt der Kurs tatsächlich, verlieren zwar deine BTCs im Wallet an Wert, aber du machst einen Gewinn aus der gehebelten Verkaufsposition. Du hast dich somit mit einem "kleinen" Einsatz gegen ein mögliches Preisdumping abgesichert. Allerdings erhälst du auch keinen Gewinn, sollte der Kurs wider erwarten doch steigen. Hier ist es wichtig, diese Position rechtzeitig zu schließen, denn sonst würdest du nie Gewinn oder Verlust machen, egal wie der Kurs sich bewegt.
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Possible? Yes. Profitable? No.
Unless you have a high end gaming laptop, hashrate would be very low. And laptops are not designed to run at 100% GPU load 24/7. They don't have proper cooling for this. You could kill it.
Once I tried to mine with my laptop at work, in my office with air conditioner. It has a GTX 960M. First tried ETH, hashrate was something like 0,2mh. Then tried Zcash, ran it for a few seconds, saw the GPU temp climbing above 80°C in such a short time, in a air contitioned room...immediately stopped it before it can take any damage and never tried it again.
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Never tried it myself, but theoretically it would work, if you already own many coins at many different exchanges.
Let's say you have 2000 coin A and 1000 coin B in total.
- Have 1000 coin A, 500 coin B at exchange 1, and the 1000/500 at exchange 2
- If the opportunity comes up, let's say coin B costs 1,9 coin A to buy at exchange 1. And at exchange 2 it sells for 2 coin A.
- Assuming there is enough volume on both. Buy 500 coin B for 950 coin A at exchange 1. AT THE SAME TIME, sell 500 coin B for 1000 coin A at exchange 2.
- You end up with 50 coin A + 1000 coin B at exchange 1. 2000 coin A + 0 coin B at exchange 2. You now have 2050 coin A and 1000 coin B in total.
- You made 50 coin A profit (minus fees of course), all you have to do now is rebalance your coins so you have 1025/500 on both again and wait for next oppotunity.
This way you don't have to consider transaction time, as you are moving your coins after your deals are done.
I said theoretically, because you have to consider, you are not the only one in the world seeing this opportunity. But to make profit, you have to be the fastest one in the world.
Using an automated bot wouldn't change this fact. All bots in the world would see the same opportunity, trying to execute the same trade at the same time, but only 1 can succeed, while all the others are probably executing loosing trades.
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Easy. Assuming your running Windows 10  Copy the "MyMining.bat" file in your Claymore directory. Create a shortcut on the desktop. Press WIN+R and type shell:startup Cope the shortcut into the folder. Done. That's awesome, thanks. I never knew about that. You don't know how many times I hated drilled down to the appdata\roaming\microsoft\windows\start menu\programs\startup folder. Thats what I originally did and it did not work at all it was giving me the error I wrote on the first post No. In the first post you said you put the .bat file into startup folder, which cannot work. The .bat file and miner (ethdcrminer64.exe) have to be in the same folder. Otherwise Windows doesn't know where to find ethdcrminer64.exe. That's the error you got. So simply create bat file where the miner is, and then make a shortcut of the bat file, then put the shortcut into startup folder. |
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PSU fan stopping is not an issue. Corsair PSU fan only run if the PSU gets higher than 50°C.
I always plug in only 1 GPU to install the OS, then plug in the others one by one. Never had any issues like this. Also, you already plugged in all 6 risers, did you already activate 4G encoding in Bios, and PCIe Link Speed to Gen1? Even without GPUs installed, you occupied all PCIe slots, so it probably won't run without those settings. Or just unplug those risers and try again with only 1 GPU.
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That's why you should stick to stock settings and try to go as low as possible with PL.
Do the math at how much electricity you save (%) and after that do the math with overclock how much you gain. I think is better to lower PL and save than to overclock. Your call.
That's easy, don't even have to think about it. Let's assume you have extremly expensive electricity at 0.30$/kWh. 1060 with Samsung memory: Stock: ~19 mh PL: 50% (that's lowest you can get in Afterburner, I don't even know if that's stable at stock settings) = 62.5W of 125W TDP Monthly profit at current ETH price (~198$): 39.49$ per card with OC: +650 mem clock: ~23mh (this is already minimum, almost every card with Samsung memory can do) PL: 70% (all my Nvidia cards are set to 70%) = 87.5W Monthly profit: 41.55$ per card This is already assuming the worst case with miminum OC, very high electricity cost, and also current ETH price is pretty low...and you are still making more profit than without OC. |
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question for fullzero: Is there a reason why you do not failover mining pool addresses in 1bash? I was watching my rig (for a completely separate issue which I might require help later) it lost connection to the mining pool I use (nanopool west) then the mining process tried restarted twice, then the whole rig just shut down. I tested my internet connection while the rig was restarting and trying to connect to the pool and my connection was ok. Wouldn't it be better to connect to a failover pool address and if it connects to the failover, try to re-establish with the original pool an hour later? or something along that line, perhaps incorporated into the watchdog? It's cool that it shut itself down and not waste power, but I would prefer that the rig try to connect to another pool if it can.
I haven't tested it, but for Claymore, can't you just put all the failover addresses into /home/m1/eth/9_7/epools.txt like you do on Windows? |
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the HD 5770s together have about 170 H/s on monero, so they're better than not running them.
I'll try without the R7. I didn't know they had so much problem with each other.
Would it help if they were on Linux instead of Windows?
170 H/s both together? And how much power they use? At 108W TDP each...unless you have free electricity, you are loosing money... |
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I only tried SC dual mining on one rig, and it was about 148mh ETH, 1500mh SC...of course it depends on which intensity you set, but this seems pretty normal to me. 5000mh SC in dual mining with 4 cards? Never. Maybe SC only.
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Alot of people are bashing hynix, and Micron, and glorify Samsung but noticed alot of those people own lower end cards like gigbyte, sapphire, xfx, vision tek, powercolor.
Don't kill me for saying lower end cards, essentially they are all the same but doesn't higher brands like MSI and ASUS use different hardware like capacitors, circuitry, etc...
I am only bringing this up because i had a 2 gigabyte rx580s, along with 2 asus rx580s they all had Samsung memory but only the gigabytes gave me issues every damn day.
My new MSI GTX 1060 6GB (ALL Micron Memory) is pushing +600 MEM & 50 PL without a single hiccup for 4 days of straight mining, each card at 23.125..... i will be pushing even higher in the next day or two.
Actually, out of all cards with Micron memory, Asus was the worst I ever had. Couldn't even stay stable at +350. While Gigabyte Microns can easily make +600 or more. Gigabyte with Samsung at least +750, some even up to +1000. Each card is different, even same model from same manufacturer. And it seems you never had a card with Hynix. Even if you could OC a Hynix to +1000, hashrates are still shitty, because they have lower timings to begin with. Doesn't matter which brand you buy. Hynix at stock ~15mh, max OC ~20mh Micron and Samsung at stock ~19mh, max OC ~23-25mh That's with Claymore 9.7, ETH only mode Microns are not THAT bad, they are ok. Micron and Samsung have same hashrate, if left at stock or OC at same level. But most Samsungs can OC higher than Micron, that's why Samsung are the best. Hynix will always stay behind them both. I have a Hynix from Gigabyte which I can OC to +850 and run stable....still only 20mh. |
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These are my thoughts, and I might be wrong, but... I like to compare it to the price of gold and US interest rate hike decision. 1-2 weeks before a rate hike is announced, gold gets dumped like crazy, because everyone is afraid of that event. But after the decision is made, it actually doesn't even matter which result, gold gets pumped like there is no tomorrow. They don't care if there was a hike or not. Why? Because this event they are all afraid of is finally over and there won't be such an event anytime soon. So people can freely invest their money again...at a discounted price! Well, that happened everytime before, but not last time, because last time Yellen indicated they will probably raise again this year, which sent gold even further down. So be careful, while the chances for a pump are high, there is still a small chance that it goes the other way. Same is happening now with nearly all coins, not just ETH. You might ask why, august 1st has nothing to do with ETH or any other altcoin. It's like trading stocks. Let's say if Apple stock crashes, most other tech stocks will crash too, because Apple, Facebook, Google etc. are market leaders and if they crash people will loose faith in tech stocks in general. Now if you look at the trading volume since monday. It's only 1/5 of last weeks volume, or even less. That means very little buyers, but also very little sellers. People who believe in ETH are holding now -> no sellers. People who are afraid of august 1st are waiting -> no buyers. That also means, every price movement right now, up or down, is not showing the true sentiment of the majority. Just because the price is going down does not mean EVERYONE is selling. Let's say, if 100 people are holding, but 1 guy is selling for 1$, then the price IS 1$, for that moment. That doesn't mean the other 100 are willing to sell for 1$. There needs to be way more volume to see the real direction. So now, what will happen on august 1st? It actually doesn't matter what happens to BTC, fork, no fork, spoon, tea cup, what ever. Once that day is over, there won't be such an event anytime soon. So people who are holding now will for sure not sell after august 1st. People who are waiting will start buying again -> price get pumped. Not only ETH, but most coins will get pumped. I'm not saying this will happen 100%, because no one can predict the market with 100% certainty. The price may even go down a little bit until then. If you want to buy, then I would buy BEFORE august 1st, otherwise you might miss the train. If you buy after the pump already happened, you are making the biggest mistake buying at a high price. That being said, always predict the unpredictable. I'm not giving any advices, just sharing my thoughts. As for myself, I'm holding my coins I already own, not buying more. If the price get pumped, I'm making profit anyway. While the price now is tempting to buy more, I'm trying not to be greedy. I did set up a buy order at 140$ though, just in case we really drop to this level again. 2 weeks ago, when the price was declining, I said to myself 140$ is the bottom, this is a major support line, it can't break. But then I didn't buy, because I was hesitant to catch the falling knife. Well, it really hit 140$ and then shot up to 270$ in just 2 days.  Lesson learned...always believe in yourself and your first opinion...don't think twice about it  |
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Unabhängig von der Leistung, ich hab bisher noch kein 750-850W Netzteil gesehen, wo 8 PCIe Anschlüsse mitgeliefert werden. Wie wolltest du die 8 GPUs anstecken? |
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