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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The Official Mastercoin Foundation, Master Protocol & Mastercoin Thread on: July 03, 2015, 10:59:26 AM
Holy crap from 100 Mio to under 1 mio in ~1 years

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/mastercoin/

What just happend, premined or what else?


Easy come, easy go
382  Economy / Economics / Re: Crisis, then opportunity. on: July 01, 2015, 12:21:17 PM
Wanna make a quick million?  Here's how:

Greece is going to be VERY Euro hungry for the next 3 months.  Fly to Athens with a big bag of cash.  All Greek people having relatives in foreign lands (with bank accounts) can send you bitcoin.  You pay their relatives in Euros.  This remittance operation would be insanely busy in about 5 days.  You'd need a courier and body guard each day flying in with new cash. 

Instant millionaire. 
there is a lot of plot holes in your theory.
first off, you can not fly with a bag full of cash out of the country. as far as i know, airport security all over the world will bust you if you have more that an specific amount of cash with you, and want to exit the country with it.
then there is the security issue , with a lot of thieves out there bodyguards are not enough, besides you have to pay them a fortune to guard you.
Let me help - you know nothing.

You are allowed to fly with a GIANT bag of cash.  As long as you declare it, it isn't illegal to carry cash.  It is illegal to take UNDECLARED cash. 
383  Economy / Economics / Re: Crisis, then opportunity. on: July 01, 2015, 12:16:08 PM
also flying with a big bag of cash, is a bit inconvenient, due to thieves, better to send it via something else

no way, there are thieves everywhere Wink

btw is sad whats happening with greece, but im 100% sure that someone already did something like you sayd, to try to take advantage.
'take advantage'?  I am trying to help the people.  Thieves are no problem when you travel with a great bodyguard. 

The people have NO CASH!  My system can get them food tonight.  It is a humanitarian system. 
384  Economy / Economics / Crisis, then opportunity. on: July 01, 2015, 11:53:20 AM
Wanna make a quick million?  Here's how:

Greece is going to be VERY Euro hungry for the next 3 months.  Fly to Athens with a big bag of cash.  All Greek people having relatives in foreign lands (with bank accounts) can send you bitcoin.  You pay their relatives in Euros.  This remittance operation would be insanely busy in about 5 days.  You'd need a courier and body guard each day flying in with new cash. 

Instant millionaire. 
385  Economy / Economics / Re: Bank holiday in Greece on: June 30, 2015, 05:30:42 PM
but the news and reports from exchangers shows that there is an increased interest towards bitcoin by Greece people.
Bitcurex got flooded with emails from Greeks.

Quote from: money.cnn link=http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/29/technology/greece-bitcoin/
Among their questions:
"Is Bitcoin a legal currency in EU?"
"Can I use Bitcurex as a bank account?"
"Do you have a Bitcoin ATM network in Greece?"

That's actually interesting to see that some of them are looking into bitcoin. I still think bitcoin is very risky for people to put their entire money into but bitcoin could become an alternative way to store wealth outside of the mainstream and could actually save people money from crises like this.
especially when your government blocks your accounts and closes the banks so people don't have access to their own money.
but unfortunately bitcoin is not yet reached the stage that can be considered a somewhat safe investment because of the highly volatile price.


It is actually far, far worse than this.  It is not that people don't have access to their money, its that their money is now gone.  Soon, they will get a nice letter saying their 30,000Euros is now 30,000 dracma.  Then, their 30,000 Dracma will be enough to buy a ham sandwich and a soda.  The government took the money away.  It is now gone.  'Capital controls' is just a bullshit term for 'you got robbed'.




but people dont realize that yet....because:  Roll Eyes




or:  they will get a nice letter saying their 30,000 Euros is now 3000 Euros.
If they get this letter they should be very happy.  Getting 10% of what they had would be a great result.  The more likely result is they will get 1:100.  Leaving the Euro was spectacularly dumb.  Having Germany as a big brother to buy all of your worthless shit while extending the right to go anywhere in Europe to work was a huge gift.  Now, Greece has nothing but 20 years of some very serious misery to look forward to - all because of one young ambitious PM who thought he could stare down the Germans to make them pay for Greeces' mistakes.  Opps!!!  Big fucking profound - oooopsss!  Merkel is way too smart to fall into that trap.  The germans didn't get where they are by having dumb ass Greeks trying to play tricks and pull the wool over.  Germans know how to see that silly kind of bullshit a kilometer away.  Greece so over-plated their card is ridiculous.  The price in suffering is going to suck.

The only one I'd like to hear on this point is Antonopolis.  He is a smart fucker and a Greek.  I wonder what he has to say about the Greek PM and the economic nightmare which is now coming due to the Germans saying: 'get lost'.  That would be an interesting commentary.
386  Economy / Economics / Re: Bank holiday in Greece on: June 30, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
but the news and reports from exchangers shows that there is an increased interest towards bitcoin by Greece people.
Bitcurex got flooded with emails from Greeks.

Quote from: money.cnn link=http://money.cnn.com/2015/06/29/technology/greece-bitcoin/
Among their questions:
"Is Bitcoin a legal currency in EU?"
"Can I use Bitcurex as a bank account?"
"Do you have a Bitcoin ATM network in Greece?"

That's actually interesting to see that some of them are looking into bitcoin. I still think bitcoin is very risky for people to put their entire money into but bitcoin could become an alternative way to store wealth outside of the mainstream and could actually save people money from crises like this.
especially when your government blocks your accounts and closes the banks so people don't have access to their own money.
but unfortunately bitcoin is not yet reached the stage that can be considered a somewhat safe investment because of the highly volatile price.


It is actually far, far worse than this.  It is not that people don't have access to their money, its that their money is now gone.  Soon, they will get a nice letter saying their 30,000Euros is now 30,000 dracma.  Then, their 30,000 Dracma will be enough to buy a ham sandwich and a soda.  The government took the money away.  It is now gone.  'Capital controls' is just a bullshit term for 'you got robbed'.

387  Economy / Economics / Re: Bank holiday in Greece on: June 30, 2015, 09:19:30 AM
Yesterday, nearly everyone in Greece was cut off from their money.  Even if you have 5 million euros in the bank, you are now stuck with 60Euros per day.  An irresponsible government, took money away from the people.  

Now do you think bitcoin is powerful?  People who had 5 million in bitcoin yesterday - still have 5 million today.  No stupid government rule is going to change that situation.  

Now go ask the millions of greeks with no money if they like Bitcoin.  As of today, nobody understands Bitcoin more than the Greeks.  
I think every one in Greece is expecting good news the extention of the loan get approved or the strict austerity measures are compromised by international creditors. Otherwise they will leave the Euro zone and fall into chaos.  

Thousands of old ex-government workers with fat pensions want to sit around and drink Uzzo rather than pay back that what they borrowed.  Germany doesn't like that plan so much.  Germany thinks those pensions were awarded to people who shouldn't get free money from an underperforming economy.  Germany thinks people get what they earn - not free money off someone else's work.  Germany is so mean.  This suffering is all Germany's fault. 

Are you dense? Germany gave several billions to Greek.
Actually, 56 billion.  But who is counting?  Germany is greedy and their economy has loads of money.  Now Greek people want to sit around and have more free money - but the Germans aren't being fair about it.
388  Economy / Economics / Re: Bank holiday in Greece on: June 30, 2015, 08:44:44 AM
Yesterday, nearly everyone in Greece was cut off from their money.  Even if you have 5 million euros in the bank, you are now stuck with 60Euros per day.  An irresponsible government, took money away from the people.  

Now do you think bitcoin is powerful?  People who had 5 million in bitcoin yesterday - still have 5 million today.  No stupid government rule is going to change that situation.  

Now go ask the millions of greeks with no money if they like Bitcoin.  As of today, nobody understands Bitcoin more than the Greeks.  
I think every one in Greece is expecting good news the extention of the loan get approved or the strict austerity measures are compromised by international creditors. Otherwise they will leave the Euro zone and fall into chaos.  

Thousands of old ex-government workers with fat pensions want to sit around and drink Uzzo rather than pay back that what they borrowed.  Germany doesn't like that plan so much.  Germany thinks those pensions were awarded to people who shouldn't get free money from an underperforming economy.  Germany thinks people get what they earn - not free money off someone else's work.  Germany is so mean.  This suffering is all Germany's fault. 
389  Economy / Economics / Re: Bank holiday in Greece on: June 30, 2015, 08:41:45 AM
Pray for Greece
Why pray for Greece?  You might as well flip a coin for Greece.  It will produce exactly the same effect. 
390  Economy / Economics / Bank holiday in Greece on: June 30, 2015, 08:04:57 AM
Yesterday, nearly everyone in Greece was cut off from their money.  Even if you have 5 million euros in the bank, you are now stuck with 60Euros per day.  An irresponsible government, took money away from the people.  

Now do you think bitcoin is powerful?  People who had 5 million in bitcoin yesterday - still have 5 million today.  No stupid government rule is going to change that situation.  

Now go ask the millions of greeks with no money if they like Bitcoin.  As of today, nobody understands Bitcoin more than the Greeks.  
391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Casualty List on: June 29, 2015, 05:38:25 AM
Rip silk road
Nothing has caused more damage to the bitcoin network.  Why RIP?  Why not burn in hell just like Ulbricht himself?
392  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The real bitcoin on: June 28, 2015, 06:54:22 PM
We will wait and see what other core developers think of Gavin's proposal. But we will certainly not switch to the altcoin called 'Bitcoin' XT. It could set a very bad precedent if we do that. No matter who you are, you cannot make a new coin and declare it is 'Bitcoin' simply because you do not agree with other core developers.

altcoin called Bitcoin XT?  Not exactly.  You see, the real bitcoin had no block size limit.  Then, the an altcoin came with a 1MB limit.  Therefore, what we have now is actually the altcoin.  The real bitcoin, Satoshi's bitcoin has no limit.  Therefore, Gavin's plan to gradually return closer to no limits - is not an altcoin as Fool2Pool suggests, it is actually a return to the real bitcoin. 

Stop calling bitcoinXT an altcoin.  If we have an altcoin, it is this current piece of shit with a 1MB limit. 

Now we have all these core developers trying to find a way to make their 'lightning network' useful.  They want to limit bitcoin blocksize to cause their Lightning network to become profitable.  A clear conflict of interest.  Forget side chains.  Side chains is a totally different project.  Those guys who want to do side chains are calling bitcoin XT an altcoin.  This is bullshit.  The real bitcoin is the bitcoin Gavin is trying to get back to without blocksize limits. 


This is something I don't hear everyday so it had no limit from the start and then it was changed and it's supposedly causing all the problems and now we're trying to go back to it again? Why was it changed btw?
Yep.

Everyone screaming 'don't change! - it will fuck it up' - they don't know that the new increasing higher limits actually get us back to where the original was.  1MB was for spam.  We don't have a serious spam problem yet, so put it back the original way.  No problem. 

If you want to see problems, see what the sidechain fiasco from Blockstream is going to bring.  That is the fiasco.  Bitcoin without 1MB is just the original bitcoin.  Time for the guys with personal motives to let the problems manifest so their solution can become valuable - to go away.
393  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The real bitcoin on: June 28, 2015, 06:08:54 PM
Whether it would be an altcoin or the real bitcoin is semantics really.
Changing Bitcoin is a big deal, it has to be accepted, otherwise we will have a worthless real bitcoin and a worthless old bitcoin.

The name obviously shouldn't change, but I doubt it will

Changing is a big deal.  It shouldn't have been changed from the beginning with respect to blocksize.  The only argument to keep 1mb limit is so Blockstream's sidechain project has a chance.  There is nothing inherently wrong with 8MB.  Stop fucking around and get rid of the limit.  I can't believe the Chinese flip-flopped on this.  It was their idea for the 8MB - now quit fucking around and do it.
394  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / The real bitcoin on: June 28, 2015, 05:56:21 PM
We will wait and see what other core developers think of Gavin's proposal. But we will certainly not switch to the altcoin called 'Bitcoin' XT. It could set a very bad precedent if we do that. No matter who you are, you cannot make a new coin and declare it is 'Bitcoin' simply because you do not agree with other core developers.

altcoin called Bitcoin XT?  Not exactly.  You see, the real bitcoin had no block size limit.  Then, the an altcoin came with a 1MB limit.  Therefore, what we have now is actually the altcoin.  The real bitcoin, Satoshi's bitcoin has no limit.  Therefore, Gavin's plan to gradually return closer to no limits - is not an altcoin as Fool2Pool suggests, it is actually a return to the real bitcoin.  

Stop calling bitcoinXT an altcoin.  If we have an altcoin, it is this current piece of shit with a 1MB limit.  

Now we have all these core developers trying to find a way to make their 'lightning network' useful.  They want to limit bitcoin blocksize to cause their Lightning network to become profitable.  A clear conflict of interest.  Forget side chains.  Side chains is a totally different project.  Those guys who want to do side chains are calling bitcoin XT an altcoin.  This is bullshit.  The real bitcoin is the bitcoin Gavin is trying to get back to without blocksize limits.  


395  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ShapeShift Leaves New York, Choosing Not to Comply with BitLicense on: June 17, 2015, 09:56:22 AM
why is new york the first state to create this type license?, it feels more like a roadblock then a gain to the bitcoin business.
They want to control bitcoin, they want to control business, they don't believe people can be on their own capable of choosing what is good for them - hence the regulations.
New York laws are stupid they want to regulate EVERYTHING ,to the point you can't buy Coca-Cola in larger bottles because it is not healthy - you can't do that to people. Let them decide!
This is how Democrats operate.  The government will do it for you.  The government shall decide how much Coke you are permitted.  Republicans hate more government.  I cannot for the life of me understand people who vote for Democrats.  Do you like Obama telling you how much Coke to drink and how many times per week you should give your wife anal? 
396  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ShapeShift Leaves New York, Choosing Not to Comply with BitLicense on: June 17, 2015, 07:08:35 AM

Really?  Go ask the music industry.  Go ask any ex newspaper journalist.  Go ask a postal employee.  Go ask Kodak film company.  These guys all thought they were 'still on top' - long after they had been fully replaced.

New York was the clear boss 50 years ago.  That shit is so over.

With P2P, with bitcoin, finance can be done any where, not necessary centralized in New York. I would be interested in seeing what NY will be in 30 year's time.
you won't have to wait that long.  It'll all be pretty much done in about 3 years.
Those NY Guidos are totally gone.  Banks are next.  You can thank Patrick Byrne in part for taking a nice early lead - despite the fact that he is a total weirdo.
397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Babe: "I could be a greased up fat man in his parents’ basement" on: June 16, 2015, 05:59:20 PM
Listen geek - that girl is never going to fuck you.  So go back to using your bitcoin for porn. 

 I'm not counting myself as geek anymore
That is precisely what geeks do.  Trust me, you are a full raging geek.  She isn't going to fuck you.  You'll have to suck your own dick.  Again.
398  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Babe: "I could be a greased up fat man in his parents’ basement" on: June 16, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
Yeah, but what good is getting interest from geeks?

uhh isn't it obvious? THEY HAD SAME INTERESTS AND SHE IS NOT ANOTHER GUY. believe or not, but this is enough for them.. Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
Listen geek - that girl is never going to fuck you.  So go back to using your bitcoin for porn. 
399  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Babe: "I could be a greased up fat man in his parents’ basement" on: June 16, 2015, 04:29:34 PM
Showing interest in a person just because she is a woman ?? Come on ...

because she is a woman somehow interested/involved in geeky stuff, she is young and not ugly at all...and those kind of women always had interest from geeks..and doesn't matter if they ale playing counter-strike, managing linux clusters or talking about bitcoin.

Yeah, but what good is getting interest from geeks?  Then you've got to fuck geeks.  Getting interest from monkeys is probably as fulfilling.

she is young and not ugly at all...
Holy fuck - I think you made her day.  Geek.
400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ShapeShift Leaves New York, Choosing Not to Comply with BitLicense on: June 16, 2015, 04:26:24 PM
New York wants to 'regulate' Bitcoin : Bitcoin wants to eliminate NY.  Who do you think will win?

it does not matter if newyork will win, it's not like newyork is the center of the world, bitcoin can find it's place in many other country, this is the beauty of having many countries and each of it with its own regulation

In many ways, New York IS the financial center of the world. Because of the globalization of the economy, it is less so than in the past, but it is still the center. Perhaps as time passes, that center will shift. But for now, it is still New York.

Really?  Go ask the music industry.  Go ask any ex newspaper journalist.  Go ask a postal employee.  Go ask Kodak film company.  These guys all thought they were 'still on top' - long after they had been fully replaced.

New York was the clear boss 50 years ago.  That shit is so over.
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