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It's all about timing and risk tolerance. In a bull market when coin prices are on an uptrend and mining difficulty is increasing, you can accumulate more coins for the same amount invested by purchasing coins directly, but since you only make money if the price when you sell is higher than what you paid, there is more risk. Mining coins allows you to accumulate coins at a lower price than buying them directly, so you have more room to sell at a profit in a market downturn. With a mining rig you can also spread your risk by diversifying in different coins without having to risk more capital. You also have an asset than can be liquidated to recoup much of your initial capital.
If your goal is to diversify in coins by mining and it's on an exchange, it makes more sense to mine the most profitable coin for your rig and trade for the other coins as you get payouts rather than mining a less profitable coin directly.
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I originally powered all the risers with the same PSU connected to the motherboard on my triple and dual PSU rigs. After a recent discussion and reading a Biostar 12 GPU dual PSU mining setup guide, I found it's better to power the GPU power and riser with the same PSU. http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/kr/event/crypto_mining/page4_2.htm**The power cable for riser card and power cable for graphics card must come from same power supply uint.  *Each power cable from power supply is limited to be connected to 2 graphics cards or 2 PCI-Ex16 riser cards.   On a side note, I ran my dual and triple PSU rigs with all the risers connected to PSU that powers the motherboard and the secondary PSU's only powering the VGA 6/8 pin power under a heavy dual mining load 24/7 for almost a year and nothing bad came from it and my rigs are very stable. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3132140.msg32484281#msg32484281 |
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Look up how to manually assign a LAN IP on your DHCP server. Typically you assign an IP by your rigs MAC address in your router.
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IMO focusing on daily profitability is a short-sighted and bad metric to determine if mining is profitable. Especially in an emerging and volatile industry such as Crypto. Investing in blockchain is like investing in a startup. Most startups take YEARS before they make any profit. If all startups focused on was generating revenue right away, most would never even exist. Even by that metric mining is currently still profitable for most and it's a hedge against a market downturn, which is why I think many people mine instead of buying coins directly.
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Hi people,
Can anyobody help me i am going mad.
I have 5 rig with 6 x RX 580 Special Edition. On all five rigs i have a fresh install of Windows 10 Home 1709. Fisrt my problem started when i could make MSI AB work with all 6 cards (it only recognize 3 cards) so i had to switch to Trixx.
I installed Claymore Dual Miner V 11.3, 11.4 and 11.5 and on all machines same problem. I watch them for few hours and everything is working just fine.No memory errors no nothing everything is perfect. Then suddenly overnight or in the morning some of them shutdown randomly(Blue screen). First i thought it was because of overclocking then when i realize it isnt (beacuse i set them to default), i switched to 11.2 because i read here it is the last stable version.
Now i have new problem. Trixx sudennly bugs out randomly on different rigs at a different time, stop working and all my cards stops working too.
I am desperate in need of help. I tried everything dont know what is the problem.
What i did before this:
Install Windows 10 64 bit Home V1709
Install new latest AMD drivers (compute mode)
tried MSI Ab but cant read 6 cards
uninstall all programs i dont need via CC cleaner and Miningtweaks. bat like Cortana, People, Xbox etc.
Set virtaul memory, power plan all other stuff that i was doing on the previous version of Windows 10. The reason i cant go back to old version of Windows is because it keeps updating.
So my question is what should i do to stop shutdowns?
How can i use MSI with new AMD drivers and Windows 1709?
What Claymore should i use?
Why is Trixx suddenly stop to work?
Hope someone gives me a solution.
Thanks
MSI Afterburner won't work with the latest drivers and more than 3 cards. There is no Group Policy Editor in the Home version of Windows 10, so I don't think you can disable Windows Update driver updates. RX 580's don't need the pixel patcher with a modded Bios, only the RX 470/480/570's. I'm using v11.5 with the latest Adrenaline drivers in Compute mode on a 13 card RX 480/580 rig with ZERO problems or invalid shares and it's very stable. You can also set the overclock/undervolt/fans directly in the Claymore config or .bat file. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.msg32024794#msg32024794 @Vann You have a stable system with good hashrates and zero problems, but the number of shares per card is very low. 10348 shares / 74.75 h = 138.4 shares per hour 138.4 shares per hour / 13 cards = 10.6 shares per hour per card Normal for 580/570 is 25+ per hour. Nanopool uses 10000MH share difficulty and Ethermine uses 4000MH share difficulty. 4000 is 40% of 10000, so 25 shares per hour at diff 4000 = 10 shares per hour at diff 10000. |
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Hello,
I’ve invested in a rx480, and I also got a HD7970.
What I’m understanding is that you can’t crossfire these gpu’s,
But you can combine them with some multi GPU program?
Can’t figure this out
You will need two different drivers for both cards. I suggest installing RX 480 driver first, then install the driver for HD7970. After that, may your RX 480 will be troubled (yellow sign in Device Manager). But don't worry, just do a manual update on your RX 480 driver. And you ready to go. You just need to install the latest AMD Adrenaline driver. The same driver supports ALL GCN cards. I have a HD 7850 2GB card mining UBQ in a rig together with RX 570/580's mining ETH without any problems. If you have a modded Bios on a RX 470/480 or 570 you also need to run the pixel patcher to bypass the driver signature check after installing the driver or the card will have a code 43 error in Device Manager and it won't work. You also need to toggle to Compute mode from Graphics mode in AMD settings. https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-Edition-18.3.1-Release-Notes.aspxhttps://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-AMD-ATI-Pixel-Clock-Patcherhttps://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/DH-024.aspx |
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There is no reason to give an app your EthMan password, as it's a security risk. You can monitor EthMan from any browser with your rigs IP address if you forward the EthMan port to the rig in your router. Make sure EthMan is setup for read only access or anyone with your IP address and port will be able to change the settings. A better and more secure way is use a RDP app like TeamViewer for remote access to your rig or setup a VPN server on your rig so you can connect to your local LAN from an encrypted connection.
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The pixel patcher bypasses the driver Bios signature check. With a modded Bios the signature is invalid and causes Windows not to be able to load the driver for the card (code 43). AFAIK a RX 580 with a modded Bios has never needed the pixel patcher to bypass the Bios signature check. If OverDriveNtool wasn't working it may be because the drivers changed something in the API, which has nothing to do with the pixel patcher. The same thing happened when AMD switched from the Crimson Relive to the Adrenaline drivers, which caused the Claymore overclocking parameters to stop working until he updated the miner in v10.3 so they were compatible with the Adrenaline drivers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.msg27476189#msg27476189 |
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No. These are the only parameters I use for the Claymorte config.
Thanks. So it's possible some of the issues are more related to dual mining? I haven't tested single mining. BTW new optional drivers came out yesterday (18.3.3) and they did seem to need pixel clock patcher even with RX580s. OverdrivenTool wouldn't work without the patch. Or maybe user error? That's always possible. I just updated another RX 570/580 rig to the 18.3.3 drivers. Without the pixel patcher only the RX 570's showed up with the code 43 error in Device Manager. There was no change for me dual mining between v11.3 and v11.5, which was also very stable. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.msg31997079#msg31997079 |
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Are you running oldkernels? single mining?
No. These are the only parameters I use for the Claymore config. Dual mining was also very stable with only a small amount of invalid shares. 1-2 per 1000 shares max. -platform 1
-mode 1
-gser 0
-etha 0
-ethi 8
-ftime 3
-r 0
-cclock 1200,1150,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200
-mclock 2050,2050,2050,2200,2100,2100,2100,2220,2220,2220,2100,2220,2050
-powlim -10,-5,-10,-15,-10,-15,-10,-10,-5,-10,-10,-10,-10
-cvddc 950,950,950,850,900,850,850,900,900,900,850,900,900
-mvddc 950,950,950,850,900,850,850,900,900,900,850,900,900
-tstop 75 |
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Hi people,
Can anyobody help me i am going mad.
I have 5 rig with 6 x RX 580 Special Edition. On all five rigs i have a fresh install of Windows 10 Home 1709. Fisrt my problem started when i could make MSI AB work with all 6 cards (it only recognize 3 cards) so i had to switch to Trixx.
I installed Claymore Dual Miner V 11.3, 11.4 and 11.5 and on all machines same problem. I watch them for few hours and everything is working just fine.No memory errors no nothing everything is perfect. Then suddenly overnight or in the morning some of them shutdown randomly(Blue screen). First i thought it was because of overclocking then when i realize it isnt (beacuse i set them to default), i switched to 11.2 because i read here it is the last stable version.
Now i have new problem. Trixx sudennly bugs out randomly on different rigs at a different time, stop working and all my cards stops working too.
I am desperate in need of help. I tried everything dont know what is the problem.
What i did before this:
Install Windows 10 64 bit Home V1709
Install new latest AMD drivers (compute mode)
tried MSI Ab but cant read 6 cards
uninstall all programs i dont need via CC cleaner and Miningtweaks. bat like Cortana, People, Xbox etc.
Set virtaul memory, power plan all other stuff that i was doing on the previous version of Windows 10. The reason i cant go back to old version of Windows is because it keeps updating.
So my question is what should i do to stop shutdowns?
How can i use MSI with new AMD drivers and Windows 1709?
What Claymore should i use?
Why is Trixx suddenly stop to work?
Hope someone gives me a solution.
Thanks
MSI Afterburner won't work with the latest drivers and more than 3 cards. There is no Group Policy Editor in the Home version of Windows 10, so I don't think you can disable Windows Update driver updates. RX 580's don't need the pixel patcher with a modded Bios, only the RX 470/480/570's. I'm using v11.5 with the latest Adrenaline drivers in Compute mode on a 13 card RX 480/580 rig with ZERO problems or invalid shares and it's very stable. You can also set the overclock/undervolt/fans directly in the Claymore config or .bat file. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.msg32024794#msg32024794 |
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I'm using -cclock and -mclock for my AMD Miner. It was working well for v11.5 until I decided to restart my Windows.
After Windows restart, the Miner is hashing at a slower rate. When I opened Trixx, it's showing the default core clock and mem clock, not the ones in my .bat files.
I did not perform any updates. Does anyone has any idea how to resolve this?
Windows Update could have modified the drivers. Do a DDU in safe mode to remove the current driver, reinstall the latest Adrenaline drivers. If you have RX 470/480/570's with a modded Bios, run the pixel patcher to bypass the driver signature check. You also need to toggle to Compute mode from Graphics mode in AMD settings. https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-AMD-ATI-Pixel-Clock-Patcherhttps://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/DH-024.aspxTo keep Windows Update from modifying your drivers, disable drivers updates in the Group Policy Editor. Windows key+R ==> Type gpedit and hit Enter ==> Navigate to: Computer Configuration ==> Administrative Templates ==> Windows Components ==> Windows Update and set 'Do not include drivers with Windows Update' to enabled. |
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There are many reasons for the network hash rate to have increased, but IMO, a Bitmain ASIC conspiracy ain't one. Daily media hype towards the end of last year, $20K BTC and $1300 ETH, which on a yearly basis outperformed BTC by almost 10000% a the end of last year and beginning of this year brought in lot's of new miners at a peak, as it always does. Another factor that limited the network hash rate was the ETH ICE AGE MAY-OCT artificially increased block times and difficulty. Once the Byzantium fork happened in the middle of OCT it ended the ICE AGE and profitability increased right around the time Crypto started the end of the year bull run, which brought miners back to ETH. The most recent hash rate increase is from Vega miners switching to ETH after a collapse in Cryptonight profitability.
I gave you merit on this, its basically a turn of events, I do also mined XMR at ICE AGE however it started at the end of the year when ETH is way more profitable than mining Cryptonight, when Vegas were out and GPU shortage happened medium type GPU's like Rx550, were forcibly sold out and guess what, they also added to mine ETH. You forget one important thing, there was not enough GPUs on the market to support such increase in hashrate...unless AMD or its partners were selling through other channels to big miners That's exactly what Nvidia was doing with the P series mining cards which are targeted for ETH mining and only distributed in bulk orders. Especially the P104 that came out at the end of last year and gets 40 MH/s+ on ETH. More recently there is also the P102. That has also contributed to the increase in ETH hash rate from the end of the year in a big part and that is a fact. Not some crazy ASIC conspiracy based on a single rumor on a Chinese web site with ZERO proof. |
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There are many reasons for the network hash rate to have increased, but IMO, a Bitmain ASIC conspiracy ain't one. Daily media hype towards the end of last year, $20K BTC and $1300 ETH, which on a yearly basis outperformed BTC by almost 10000% a the end of last year and beginning of this year brought in lot's of new miners at a peak, as it always does. Another factor that limited the network hash rate was the ETH ICE AGE MAY-OCT artificially increased block times and difficulty. Once the Byzantium fork happened in the middle of OCT it ended the ICE AGE and profitability increased right around the time Crypto started the end of the year bull run, which brought miners back to ETH. The most recent hash rate increase is from Vega miners switching to ETH after a collapse in Cryptonight profitability.
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There are different reasons for why people want to mine. If your only goal was to make X amount of profit per week/month to pay your bills and the rig, then yes, that has gotten much harder to do over the last couple of months. However even at 0.30 USD power, as of today it's still profitable to mine after power costs are included.
You must be demented/delusional, really, 96% of people don't mine for 10 cents of dollars per gpu rx 580 per day. Check the calculation cause i dont want to waste time telling the reality to your troll mind not to mention for you to break even will take 3500 days. Only lunatics, trolls, idiots will say mining is profitable now. https://whattomine.com/coins/151-eth-ethash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=30.0&p=130.0&fee=2.0&cost=0.3&hcost=440.0&commit=CalculateDaily profit per day is a short-sighted and stupid way to look at long term investments. The profitability today is 100% irrelevant to what the profitability will be of the Crypto you mine today in week, month or year. If you were mining ETH in NOV 2016 when it was $10, 0.10 USD per day profit after power would have been about right. If you kept mining, a six card rig was making several ETH per week. In a volatile market such as Crypto, only an idiot would make profitability projections based on current price. |
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The best laid plans of mice and men....
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There are different reasons for why people want to mine. If your only goal was to make X amount of profit per week/month to pay your bills and the rig, then yes, that has gotten much harder to do over the last couple of months. However even at 0.30 USD power, as of today it's still profitable to mine after power costs are included. In fact the total marketcap of all coins is no different than it was just 4 months ago. So unless you believe there is fundamental change of paradigm that renders current blockcahin technology obsolete, then market corrections are nothing new. It's just a good time to sharpen the sword and reevaluate your positions.
If you believe, as many people invested in mining do, Crypto is the future, then you need to make sacrifices for safeguarding your future. As said the power cost of most rigs per day is equal or less than a single cup of Starbucks latte that many have no problems wasting money on every day on their drive to work. One thing for sure is if you keep mining with a rig you already have, you will keep accumulating Crypto regardless of the current price and that cup of coffee you waste money on daily has ZERO chance of bringing you any return in the future.
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Maybe you can get together with your anally retentive 'Capital Recovery' pal for afternoon tea and cake to dscuss how ignorant we are. As if it matters or anybody cares, LOL.
Thanks for the suggestion. In fact tea does sound good right now. If you don't care to sound ignorant, then that's your prerogative. I think people other than yourself do care though. While you're at it, you can discuss the other idioms and vernacular applied in a colloquial setting. YAY! |
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I love Willy Wonka... but dismissing it as not important makes you ignorant. Maybe you can get together with your anally retentive 'Capital Recovery' pal for afternoon tea and cake to dscuss how ignorant we are. As if it matters or anybody cares, LOL. |
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