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381  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 07:53:12 PM

In the finance world if you say "my company transacted 1bn USD last year and 5bn USD this year and I'm expecting 20bn USD in 2 years", that kind'a counts for growth you know. Just sayin'.

Yeah, but if you cant make a bank transfer for $100m, you dont simply go back and make one for $200m so it will go through. The idea that people will transfer more money because they cant transfer less is ludicrous. I mean, seriously?
382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 07:44:26 PM
looks like Core devs have thrown Theymos under the bus....

They are starting to distance themselves from the bitcoin reddits....

And bitcoin.org will now be bitcoinco.re
383  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: January 15, 2016, 07:33:10 PM
There will be no collaboration between Classic and Core - Core's objectives will never align with Classic. There was plenty of opportunity to reach agreement, but I think we are well past that now. The community will be offered an alternative to Core, with an alternative roadmap for segwit-like functionality, and it will be a free choice to run with it or run with Core.

Thats what bitcoin was always about. If you dont like what one product does, you can fork off to another.  

You think its a good idea to alienate 45 developers and replace them with 5? Even if half of those core devs start contributing towards classic eventually that will be a huge loss for our community ... all in the name of what? Bitterness? Hopefully both groups can move beyond this for the sake of everyone,.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIt7GLxxIpY
 

Its a lot more than 5, mate. Most existing core contributors are welcome to join, I dont believe there is any issue in that respect - its a free choice.

As for bitterness - I will leave that to others.

edit: looks like even peterTodd has dropped into Classic for a chat......
384  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 07:16:57 PM


+ the fact that there is no expansion space is a bullshit argument. Blocks are at ~600kb (including dust and spam), not 1mb. It has +50% capacity to reach 900kb - with 100kb to spare. If some blocks are full, so be it...

+ there are two dimensions in growth, one being the money volume the other being tx count. Money volume will continue to increase and scale even with a steady tx count as very low value txs give their place to higher value txs in a "crowded" scenario.

Meh, whatever. Its probably just academic now:

Bitfury on board for Classic

Even brg444 has tweeted his disapproval. Or disappointment. Or butthurt.
385  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: January 15, 2016, 07:06:03 PM

Classic and Core need to start collaborating, and give up a bit for the good of consensus. Perhaps Segwit released softfork in 1-2 months and than a 2-4 hardfork BIP later in 2016 with collaboration between all devs.


There will be no collaboration between Classic and Core - Core's objectives will never align with Classic. There was plenty of opportunity to reach agreement, but I think we are well past that now. The community will be offered an alternative to Core, with an alternative roadmap for segwit-like functionality, and it will be a free choice to run with it or run with Core.

Thats what bitcoin was always about. If you dont like what one product does, you can fork off to another.  

Over 50% Mining behind Classic now, Its not looking good for Core.
386  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 05:48:13 PM
Next up, I think full blocks vs time and probably fees vs time.

Have you seen someone break down the fee/non-fee transaction distribution lately? I would think people are already starting to add extra fees. I know I am.

Quote from: bitcoind_log
2016-01-15 17:30:18 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool: free transaction rejected by rate limiter

This is all the logs show - I'll put a script together to match them to [whenever] they make it to a block or just die. I'll mess with limitfreerelay and
minrelaytxfee and see what figures come up.

387  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 10:32:21 AM
The elevator stopped working I think I'll take the window home today.

 
388  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2016, 10:29:18 AM

(Also, add to the list of this article's bullshit arguments: "Chinese miners are the reason we don't have bigger blocks". You can blame China's influence

I dont think he blamed them for causing the problem, I think he blames them for not having the balls to stand up to Blockstream and force the issue by adopting bigger blocks.  As he explained, it was down to this funny sense of 'loyalty' - which is commendable in principle but should never stop you from doing the right thing.

But I see why the miners did what they did - the "pig circus" that was 'Scaling Bitcoin' promised that something was going to be done, but instead became a simple delay tactic while convoluted, unworkable solutions were being hammered out in the background.

But time has now run out, as it has for XT, and miners are now taking a pro active stance on the matter. All they are waiting for is somebody credible to put an alternative solution in front of them - a solution tailored to their needs - and they will jump.  And that will be sooner than many here care to believe, and certainly too soon for alternative vaporware to become a reality.

389  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: January 15, 2016, 07:21:54 AM
It is pretty funny you believe the new Bitcoin will lead to more centralised direction, yet all your post has totalitarian view with a lot of censorship suggested to keep control in what you believe to be best for Bitcoin regardless of outside support - basically a tyran description. It is very surprising here are so many people with totalitarian view when Bitcoin is meant to be libertarian project instead...

Yes, you summarised it pretty succinctly there. They will never see the incongruity of condoning censorship  in 'censorship resistant' Bitcoin. Indeed, a lot of the anger displayed by the likes of iCE, brg, et al. can be explained as being a result of the mental stress they suffer from this cognitive dissonance.

Who are you trying to fool?  I haven't stopped grinning since hearing the fantastic news about Hearn's rage-quit and rage-dump.


If its a victory at all for your fascist agenda, then its a Pyrrhic one. You have only succeeded in galvanising (see what I did there) the opposition to Blockstream and further polarising the community.  The tactics used to destroy XT will probably come back to haunt you.

In fact, it has already started.

390  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: January 14, 2016, 11:42:55 PM

drone drone drone


Care to make a point? But not as contradictory this time, mkay?   Grin

edit: Actually, don't bother. You are just a lightweight, less colourful version of icebreaker. I fall asleep reading your arguments.
391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: January 14, 2016, 11:04:06 PM
 First you say this:

Lol at the usual piss-poor trolling attempts.  Let's not forget the reason all these trolls-for-hire are here at all

And then you say this:
Quote
Let's solve it like adults, instead of acting like shouting really loudly....

And you expect intelligent people to take you seriously.
392  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: January 14, 2016, 09:12:53 PM
I want Bitcoin in a box..

I'm sure you do, and the way you are going about it I'm afraid you might succeed.

393  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: January 14, 2016, 07:25:01 PM

It is pretty funny you believe the new Bitcoin will lead to more centralised direction, yet all your post has totalitarian view with a lot of censorship suggested to keep control in what you believe to be best for Bitcoin regardless of outside support - basically a tyran description. It is very surprising here are so many people with totalitarian view when Bitcoin is meant to be libertarian project instead...

Yes, you summarised it pretty succinctly there. They will never see the incongruity of condoning censorship  in 'censorship resistant' Bitcoin. Indeed, a lot of the anger displayed by the likes of iCE, brg, et al. can be explained as being a result of the mental stress they suffer from this cognitive dissonance.
394  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: January 14, 2016, 11:12:19 AM

Its CEO is actively pushing and promoting a contentious governance coup that would be bad for Bitcoin.


bitcoin.org's actions show a petulant and child-like thought process that is endemic in bitcoin at the moment. That does need to change.

I dont think the change will be as contentious as you believe - common sense usually breaks out in cases such as this.
395  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: January 14, 2016, 10:28:22 AM
LOL. Comical Ali from the Front National still believes that their alliance with North Korea will win the battle.

NK is Marxist; FN opposes Marxists.  Most people realize Internationalists and Nationalists do not usually form alliances.


Wrong. Most people dont give a shit what your 'brand' of crazy is. Just that you are crazy.
396  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2016, 09:56:05 AM

Once you know this , you will have no fear of these private blockchains.

You need to put that into a Matrix meme. Or an Alec Guinness Jedi Mind Trick meme.

Edit:


397  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2016, 09:46:13 AM
Can you give a "for example" on the security patches nodes want besides not being half-broken?

Small sample..


    #6438 2531438 openssl: avoid config file load/race
    #6571 100ac4e libbitcoinconsensus: avoid a crash in multi-threaded environments
    #6694 834e299 [QT] fix thin space word wrap line break issue
    #6703 1cd7952 Backport bugfixes to 0.11
    #6750 5ed8d0b Recent rejects backport to v0.11
    #6769 71cc9d9 Test LowS in standardness, removes nuisance malleability vector.
    #6789 b4ad73f Update miniupnpc to 1.9.20151008
    #6785 b4dc33e Backport to v0.11: In (strCommand == “tx”), return if AlreadyHave()
    #6795 4dbcec0 net: Disable upnp by default



0.11.1 Change log
Detailed release notes follow. This overview includes changes that affect behavior, not code moves, refactors and string updates. For convenience in locating the code changes and accompanying discussion, both the pull request and git merge commit are mentioned.

#6438 2531438 openssl: avoid config file load/race
#6439 980f820 Updated URL location of netinstall for Debian
#6384 8e5a969 qt: Force TLS1.0+ for SSL connections
#6471 92401c2 Depends: bump to qt 5.5
#6224 93b606a Be even stricter in processing unrequested blocks
#6571 100ac4e libbitcoinconsensus: avoid a crash in multi-threaded environments
#6545 649f5d9 Do not store more than 200 timedata samples.
#6694 834e299 [QT] fix thin space word wrap line break issue
#6703 1cd7952 Backport bugfixes to 0.11
#6750 5ed8d0b Recent rejects backport to v0.11
#6769 71cc9d9 Test LowS in standardness, removes nuisance malleability vector.
#6789 b4ad73f Update miniupnpc to 1.9.20151008
#6785 b4dc33e Backport to v0.11: In (strCommand == "tx"), return if AlreadyHave()
#6412 0095b9a Test whether created sockets are select()able
#6795 4dbcec0 net: Disable upnp by default
#6793 e7bcc4a Bump minrelaytxfee default
398  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers) on: January 13, 2016, 09:46:04 PM


This appears to contradict your claim, that it is simply BIP 102, and looks more like a 2- 4 plan but realistically an effective 3.5MB - 7MB plan because it looks as if they are going to copy over segwit as well

Where did you read that segwit is to be included? That would be very unlikely.

You are correct, its a 2-4 plan.

399  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gavineries on: January 13, 2016, 08:45:19 PM

SegWit actually needs less code than XT needed for the increase (according to Maxwell).

What in the name of F*ck are you talking about?  Have you seen the segwit changeset? And what about the changes to wallets, exchanges, block explorers, etc. etc?Huh

btw - where is maxwell?  what have you done with him?  Any word on the NSAJuniper back doors?
400  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2016, 03:13:07 PM

Your "nazi" slur becomes increasingly laughable as higher percentages (42!!!!) 27% of French citizens vote for FN.


Marion is an ass-kicker boot-licker like her grandfather and aunt; your clichéd Spartacist Undergraduate League rhetoric only makes her stronger.

fixed that for you, quisling.

27% translates to how many regional councils?  0.  Null . Zero. Nada.

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