The article I found suggested they were setting up a farm in Walla Walla - their listed "official contact location" is in a Tacoma area small city, so they're ALREADY dual located as a minimum.

I'd guess they're on a "contract" rate not a standard one - but they're probably still 5 cents more or less per KWH given that the quoted "largest consumption industrial" type rate for that area is somewhat more than 5.

Odd, I don't see S9 in stock on Bitmain on a consistent all the time basis, which WOULD indicate overcapacity.
They're STILL selling out every one they can make.

The ONLY units they're not selling out on are those old "relabled S7" things that are UNPROFITABLE for most folks because of their low efficiency by current standards.

I'd say "one OF the most inflated cycles", not "the most".
But the point is still valid.

Bitmain or Bailkal might have been mining with some machines on CN in the last month - but the hashrate before that does NOT support any sort of a "mass deployment" of ASIC having happened by ANYONE.

200k Vega sales would account for most of the CN hashrate growth between November and early Febuary, when the DIP in hashrate happened, and there are reports of a MASSIVE botnet deployment that also happened sometime late last year or early this year.

The last month has seen quite a few GPU posting showing up - but pretty much ALL of them at gouge pricing, with 1 posting for a bunch of USED cards apparently from a "johnnie come lately" type getting out of mining.

Several rig postings all along - at crazy high way inflated pricing.

Late 2013 was the Litecoin (and other early Scrypt coins to a lesser degree like DOGE) mining craze - then early 2014 saw a double whammy, first Litecoin price started dropping then the Gridseed ASIC showed up.
There was a brief time when a lot of GPUs moved to X11 coins (DarkCoin now known as DASH was starting to get big) but the massive move of GPUs into X11 killed profitability fast.

fps is completely unrelated to mining, as it's a Game terminology and the work behind it is largely Floating Point where mining work is 100% Integer + data transfers.

MSI Aero blower-model cards have VERY VERY BAD cooling - worse than the Founder's Edition.
I refuse to consider buying any more of those.

MSI cards IN GENERAL in my experience tend to have poor cooling compared to cards by other manufacturers in the "same class".
Their only saving grace is that they DO appear to use ball bearing fans in most or all models.


If you run them both at their most EFFICIENT TDP settings (106 watts give or take a couple), the 1080 has the same to a hair WORSE hashrate on ZEC, depending on specific models and ability to OC.
The 1080 starts pulling ahead around the 120 watt level or so, but it never manages 10% better hashrate at the SAME TDP as a "same model" 1070 ti.

ASIC CAN NOT BE "upgraded".
They are fixed to doing whatever they were designed to do and that CAN'T be changed.


I suspect that ETN is planning to do the "wait for the Monero algo fork then adopt it" plan in their eventual fork - makes sense to have multiple coins move to the SAME algo for ease of miner support.

$25/day at the time of the posting.

Put a fan guard between the fan and the filter material, jammed fan = significant probability of overheated and DEAD miner even if you don't get a fire (which isn't REAL high probability).

Appears to be setting up something in the Walla Walla area - which does NOT have super-low electric rates, poor choice of location IMO.
Can't check the business registration with the State of Washington right now as their system is down for upgrades 'till Monday - but 3'd party sites show the Ant Creek LLC being registered by Jihan (might be a different one, but what are the odds?).

I was confused, keep thinking equihash not ethash.

Too much /= no fee at all.

Claymore has pulled in MILLIONS from his fees (possibly TENS of Millions), that's way more than enough to have repaid his time investment.

0.5 % would be a lot more reasonable fee level, especially since most of his miners DON'T offer 2% better performance than the best competition.

PCI-E spec only uses 2 pins for +12VDC on a 6 pin connector, but that's still 192 watts of RATED draw.
The pins are rated at 8A not 9A when used in the connector body per MOLEX spec sheet.

No point in mining ZEC with these cards (or the 290/390/390x) as they're all more profitable on ETH by a fair bit.

Worthwhile depends on your electric cost and how much you can get the cards for, even with an undervolt BIOS from TheStilt on my R9 290 cards they're still pulling ballpark guess 250 watts on ETH mining at 30ish Mhash/sec.

TheStilt BIOS get a lot of their efficiency from switching OFF a lot of the "video output" related parts of the card as well as undervolting - they do NOT "lower vrm switching frequency" as that would DECREASE efficiency.

GPU-Z wattage figures for AMD cards ALWAYS understate them a lot - seems like it only looks at the PCI-E power connection inputs and NOT at the power draw from the PCI-E bus or some such.
Nvidia-SMI does a MUCH better job of that on the Nvidia side of things.

Don't need to bump core up for a 1070 mining Ethash - they're quite happy with up to a -200 core UNDERCLOCK as they're severely memory limited, even with a LARGE memory clock increase.

I've been shifting my mining cards around, in an attempt to get the rigs to be "homogenous" so I CAN dedicate the cards that are better on ETH to ETH and the ones that are better on ZEC to ZEC and such - though it's also part of my ongoing "convert folding rigs to riser-based rigs for better cooling" and my newer "get everything set up to go into my Mark 2 shelf/rack units for space savings" initiative.

There are miner programs that have some overclock/fan control included.
I think most don't bother because they don't see the point of "re-inventing the wheel".

Wide range of 1070 cards.
On ZEC, most manage between 380 and 400 sol/s running EBWF at 110 watts (give or take a couple) with +100/+1200 under LINUX (that would be +100/+600 for Afterburner due to how LINUX works memory overclocks).

On ETH, I can bump most of them DOWN to the 100-102 watt range (a couple manage 98 watts, a few need up to 107) for a consistant 31.2 give or take .1 Mhash at +1200 memory and core anywhere from -200 to +100 (core doesn't MATTER on ETH for 1070 cards unless you MASSIVELY underclock the core).


Don't quote TDP as a "%" figure, as TDP on 1070 cards varies WIDELY (151 "Founder's Edition" standard and 180 watts are common, MSI has that insane Gaming X model at 240) which makes % TDP a nearly MEANINGLESS figure.

It's not much better than a standard 6 card GTX 1070 rig
One of my current *5* card GTX 1070 rigs (the only one on an Intel MB at this point) pulls 155-156 Mhash at a little over 600 watts - WITH the G4600 CPU mining Monero.

I think I've seen info about this one elsewhere that it's an 8 card 1060 based machine using those "passive cooled" type cards intended for notebook usage.