If I understand there won't really be any "new" money coming into bitcoin. The only way I can buy shares is if somebody in the trust is willing to sell. The trust won't be buying new bitcoins like the winklevoss thing.
As always, qualified accredited investors may choose to invest in shares of the BIT directly through the BIT's ongoing private placement at the daily NAV/share1.
But in that case they would have to wait one year until being able to sell those new BIT shares. And they would have to buy the bitcoins themselves, isn't it so? Or am I misreading their Sep/2013 document? The company that runs BIT buys the bitcoins; investors do not. Investors buy shares of BIT. Originally there was a period of no redemptions until BIT was ready for that (April 2015?); there was some amount of time when redemptions were indeed available. Since then that path for getting out is now closed. Now there are no redemptions until the ETF is up. Personally I bought into BIT with Roth IRA monies with no intention of ever selling; if it is goes to $0/btc then so be it; one less cruise during retirement? Maybe. If it goes to the moon then won't my kids be happy.
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Ok, look. Everyone stop mining except one guy (I'll volunteer) thereby minimizing/nearly eliminating the "waste"; well maybe we should have a few guys spread out for safety. Those guys distribute the block reward and transaction fees gained in some, er, fashion to everyone that wants some. Oh, the devil is in the details, isn't it?
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Even if money (BTC, etc.) is stolen at gunpoint? Blacklisting stolen money is a marvelous idea.
Oh GTFO you UnSavoryGarnish. "I know it looks like I sent money into that exchange, but I was actually held at gun point so please reverse it!" Let's start using social security numbers as our addresses while we're at it. So stupid. If a thief is caught and still has the money then should they be forced to give it back? If the thief gave it to their brother who still has it then should the brother be forced to give it back? If the thief "bought" lunch from their brother-in-law who happens to own a restaurant then should the brother-in-law be forced to give it back? When is the stolen money no longer rightfully the original owner's?
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Just my 2c about blacklists: As soon as they are a reality bitcoin will be dead. Money needs to be fungible, everything else is nonsense.
Even if money (BTC, etc.) is stolen at gunpoint? Blacklisting stolen money is a marvelous idea. To prepare for a potential life-threatening situation, one could have some money readily available but more not readily available. The thief wants your fungible money; killing you is not their top priority. Accessing your safe money should put your assailant at risk of capture.
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My original stake was $10K non-retirement (average basis of right around $100/BTC) and then later $25K Roth IRA (basis around $700/BTC). I did sell $5K worth of non-retirement BTCs (just to prove I could; and did claim the gain on my income taxes)) so my stake is down to $5K non-retirement. Net: $30K basis nominally worth $35K at the moment. Since I'm strictly playing with my kid's money (so to speak), I might sell $30K more worth of non-retirement (reclaiming my original stake) at something <$340/BTC and just let the Roth IRA ride (house money so to speak) or wait until it's at the top of the next big bubble (although timing is so hard to do well).
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One wonders if the block interval distribution pattern, although designed to target a 10 minute average, changes as the difficulty increases. Where's the median? What is the standard deviation? Although it is mostly academic since the effective average suffices to analyze the backlog over long enough periods of time. Then again a focus on the peaks to avoid breaking the memory pool is worth the effort.
The most provocative point is the one about miners constraining their block size; why do they do it? What advantage do they gain? Where can I learn more about header-first block transmission?
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If the average transaction is 400 bytes then 20,000 transactions would only take up 8,000,000 bytes or about 8MB. I just bet the memory pool is much larger than that.
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The average transaction size is more like 400 bytes at best.
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Sweet. So, since a single 1MB block can clear something like 2,400 transactions, it might take 5 or more blocks to clear a backlog of 12,000 transactions (if no more are flowing in (unlikely)). Suppose we have a steady workload of 1,200 new transactions flowing in, in that situation it will take 10 blocks to clear the backlog; average time | incoming | backlog | 0 | ... | 12,000 | 10m | 1,200 | 10,800 | 20m | 1,200 | 9,600 | 30m | 1,200 | 8,400 | 40m | 1,200 | 7,200 | 50m | 1,200 | 6,000 | 60m | 1,200 | 4,800 | 70m | 1,200 | 3,600 | 80m | 1,200 | 2,400 | 90m | 1,200 | 1,200 | 100m | 1,200 | small |
This is an unlikely scenario. Clearly some burst of incoming transactions built up the backlog. Every additional burst exceeding 2,400 per 10 minutes will grow the backlog more.
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It seems to me that miners could game the current system by deliberately mining minimal block sizes. They would have a higher hash rate and win more often as compared to miners that try to mine larger blocks forcing them to do more iterations.
Ouch. I thought I had at least the slightest clue, but please do help me understand.
The miners are hashing the block header, which is always the same size regardless of how many tx are in a block. The block header contains a hash of all the transactions, but it doesn't contain the transactions. Ah. So, the cost of computing the hash of a large block vs. a small one is negligible. Once the hash of the proposed transaction set is calculated then it is included in the block header. The block header does not vary in size. Thank you. I withdraw my proposal.
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Guns and soup? Too terrible to contemplate. I will fallback on basic skills and hope cooperatives arise.
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It seems to me, since the Roth IRA funds have already been taxed they are at less risk as compared to traditional IRAs which haven't been taxed yet.
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I have both non-retirement and retirement investments. If/when the rules for retirement investments are changed then we will have to evaluate the new rules and take action accordingly, e.g. withdraw despite penalties, etc. As trouble rises then investment choices need to be adjusted. Do you have specific investment advise based on your world view?
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It seems to me that miners could game the current system by deliberately mining minimal block sizes. They would have a higher hash rate and win more often as compared to miners that try to mine larger blocks forcing them to do more iterations.
You obviously don't have the slightest clue about how bitcoin works. Ouch. I thought I had at least the slightest clue, e.g. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mOTrqckdetCoRxY5QkVcyQ7Z0gcYIH-Dc0tu7t9f7tw, but please do help me understand.
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Dec. 2012 -- my son gave me a Bitcoin as a Christmas present; best present ever.
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Holding Bitcoin in a retirement account is not trivial; personally I am especially interested in Roth IRAs (I am predicting the future tax rate will be higher). Holding an ETF in a retirement account is pretty straightforward although it does take a measure of trust (although not necessarily in a "central" authority). What's needed is a viable ETF built on top of a block chain.
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Naturally, as the block reward declines over time my proposal will mean less. When the block reward is gone then my proposal will mean nothing. My proposal does scale if/when we increase the maximum block size allowed.
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It seems to me that miners could game the current system by deliberately mining minimal block sizes. They would have a higher hash rate and win more often as compared to miners that try to mine larger blocks forcing them to do more iterations.
With my proposal above that would change, the miners would be motivated to mine the largest blocks possible helping to keep the queue of unconfirmed transactions low.
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I had an idea; as I understand it the SHA-256 hash calculations dominate the compute time; essentially we are rewarding miners for their compute time. In SHA-256, the payload of the first 512 bit iteration is 447 bits. When more than 447 bits are being hashed additional iterations are required. A payload of up to 959 bits is handled in two iterations. 1,471 bits are handled in 3 iterations. In general, 512*N-65 bits are handled in N iterations. Naturally more iterations take more compute power. We could consider enhancing Bitcoin by awarding only a portion of the block reward based on the number of iterations needed. A schedule like the following might make sense; block size | block reward factor | minimal | 0.1 | small | 0.2 | medium | 0.4 | large | 0.8 | maximum | 1.0 |
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