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641  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Self-Directed IRA investing in Bitcoin on: June 07, 2013, 07:39:15 PM

Cetera Investment Services LLC (most recent approval date) -- no answer
642  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Self-Directed IRA investing in Bitcoin on: June 07, 2013, 07:15:12 PM

On a lark I called the good folks at PWMCO, LLC https://www.pwmco.com/ first (why should I work the list alphabetically?) -- although they are certainly aware of Bitcoin, they are not involved with it yet.  I was their first inquiry.

Is anyone else willing/able to help call other entities?
643  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Self-Directed IRA investing in Bitcoin on: June 07, 2013, 07:01:41 PM
http://www.irs.gov/Retirement-Plans/Application-Procedures-for-Nonbank-Trustees-and-Custodians
644  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Self-Directed IRA investing in Bitcoin on: June 07, 2013, 06:45:34 PM
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/nonbank_trustee_list.pdf
645  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: June 06, 2013, 02:24:38 PM
So, instead I sent 50 Ripples to the address I had created awhile ago -- now if only I could access that old address.

I have to ask... Why have you done that if you couldn't access that address?
Have you at least, took note of the secret key they provided you on registration?

I thought I could access the old address.  When I went back to it I discovered the access no longer worked.  No secret key was provided for the old address (it might have been too early; before secret keys were provided).

I do indeed have the secret key for the new address; then again I still have access to it.

Near as I can tell I'll never miss the 50 Ripples; I have yet to find anything useful to do with them.

Now I am a little sorry I lost the 50 Ripples.  It turns out I was able to exchange my remaining Ripples into Bitcoins; 949 Ripples -> 138.996 mBTC after fees.  Then Ripple was able to send them to my Bitstamp account and then on to my personal Bitcoin wallet.

Will I regret converting from Ripple into Bitcoin?  Can I go in the other direction?
646  Other / Off-topic / Re: Write something you know in this thread. on: June 06, 2013, 01:42:47 PM
Ok, I'll start I know that Galileo is already dead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology

How do you know Galileo (you do mean the astronomer Galileo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei and not the Georgian virtual library system http://www.galileo.usg.edu/, right?) is already dead?
647  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: June 06, 2013, 01:09:58 PM
So, instead I sent 50 Ripples to the address I had created awhile ago -- now if only I could access that old address.

I have to ask... Why have you done that if you couldn't access that address?
Have you at least, took note of the secret key they provided you on registration?

I thought I could access the old address.  When I went back to it I discovered the access no longer worked.  No secret key was provided for the old address (it might have been too early; before secret keys were provided).

I do indeed have the secret key for the new address; then again I still have access to it.

Near as I can tell I'll never miss the 50 Ripples; I have yet to find anything useful to do with them.
648  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: June 05, 2013, 05:44:02 PM
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So, I followed the steps and appear to have received 1,000 Ripples.  Neat.  So now what?

I wanted to exchange them (since I can't figure out anything else to do with them) but I haven't figured out how to get that to work yet.  Supposedly the current exchange rate will get me like 1 Bitcoin for every 6,500 Ripples which equates to 0.00015 Ripple per Bitcoin.  So my 1,000 Ripples might exchange into 0.15 Bitcoins or 150 mBTC or 150,000.00 XBT or even 15,000,000 Satoshi (better than a poke in the eye if I can get it done).

So, instead I sent 50 Ripples to the address I had created awhile ago -- now if only I could access that old address.
649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: June 05, 2013, 05:02:13 PM
rHSo3YeNaFhP5FPgDoaSGzNJLvx6UbtzA5

rLHzQvu8XWSnZZKjAV7bVTGpu4hUJWQFqP
650  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bank of America vs. Mt. Gox on: June 04, 2013, 07:21:58 PM
I'm using Dwolla -> CampBX ok now.
651  Other / Off-topic / links to potentially relevant material on: June 03, 2013, 01:30:55 AM
Hearing with testimony from Second Life http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-110hhrg50918/pdf/CHRG-110hhrg50918.pdf.

COIN AND CURRENCY ISSUES FACING
CONGRESS: CAN WE STILL AFFORD MONEY? http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-109hhrg31538/pdf/CHRG-109hhrg31538.pdf.
652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC - XBT - bitcoinfoundation.org on: May 31, 2013, 03:38:20 PM
The correct spelling is Bhutan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhutan and their official currency designation is BTN http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/bhutan.htm -- so there is no conflict with BTC per se.

For the term supranational I found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_currency but no reference to a leading X being anything special.

The ISO 4217:2008 standard is the most recent http://www.iso.org/iso/home/standards/currency_codes.htm -- the table is available http://www.currency-iso.org/dam/downloads/dl_iso_table_a1.xls -- plenty of codes start with the letter X but they do appear to be currencies that are not specific to just one country, e.g. XAF, or not specific to any country, e.g. XAU (gold).

Does anyone want to purchase the standard for 140,00 CHF = $146.60?  One can imagine a day when the ISO guys accept Bitcoins.

Per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_vote;

The question is on the adoption of the motion to submit XBT to ISO, all in favor say aye ...
653  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Start Using mBTC as Standard Denomination? on: May 31, 2013, 03:01:12 PM
Virtually none of the existing finance applications or databases storing currency support a precision more than two decimal digits. All finance applications use three capital letter ISO currency codes (mBTC is 4 and mixed case).

You want to store and process Bitcoin where the other currencies are, then it is a must.

Here again a reasoning in more detail: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=220761.msg2326526#msg2326526

MBC or MBT
654  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Start Using mBTC as Standard Denomination? on: May 31, 2013, 02:02:12 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name

Naming Bitcoin denominations can have a massive impact.  For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang_terms_for_money.

I give 200 mBTC as birthday/graduation gifts; way more exciting than 0.2 BTC.

*If* Bitcoin is wildly successful then we will be facing this denomination naming problem again.

We cannot deny our history; 1 BTC is already a valuable thing and could go up in value.

bit = techie but there is also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_(money) -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shave_and_a_Haircut
coin = http://etymonline.com/?term=coin but I do not know the intent of the original name giver; my guess is they meant to provoke thoughts of gold coins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto

The young will accept things more readily; the old will not.  The young are poor; the old are rich.

We are fraught with hidden assumptions, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal.
655  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which OS is the most secure? on: May 31, 2013, 01:09:52 PM
OpenVMS http://hp.com/go/openvms of course.
656  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Self-Directed IRA investing in Bitcoin on: May 30, 2013, 07:44:43 PM
http://www.thehardmoneypros.com/self_directed_ira_custodians.shtm working this list now.
657  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Self-Directed IRA investing in Bitcoin on: May 30, 2013, 03:24:02 PM
My lawyer pointed me at Equity Trust and Pensco but just like US Trust and Provident, neither of them are handling Bitcoin at this time.  Their legal departments need the IRS to state their position; just like any other currency investment or collectable.  Collectables cannot be held by a custodian in trust for a self-directed IRA.

Apparently it can be costly and time consuming to get an IRA Letter of Determination.  We need a Bitcoin Angel http://venturebeat.com/2013/05/28/60-angel-investors-rally-forces-and-raise-6-7m-for-bitcoin-startups/ to step up.
658  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is my computer powerful enough? on: May 29, 2013, 01:49:55 PM
Would a CPU *ever* earn any Bitcoin rewards anymore?  It might not be worth it in terms of cost of electricity but can we expect a CPU to ever get lucky?
659  Economy / Gambling / Re: FREE 0.0001 BTc to first 50 reply. on: May 26, 2013, 12:39:09 PM

I have a btc wallet client, how to mass send to these addresses?

...

So, apparently your agenda all along was a bulk send.  You could have just asked instead of putting forth a nonsense false pretense.  As such you probably reduced the likelyhood of getting attention for a bulk send.

Are you thinking about using the Bitcoin network as a vehicle for mass marketing akin to direct mail?

660  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Self-Directed IRA investing in Bitcoin on: May 24, 2013, 07:46:33 PM
My CPA is checking into the procedure for creating our own custodian dedicated to Bitcoin.  We will need a lawyer familiar with SEC rules, etc.  If I manage to get a custodian created then it could be the custodian for everyone else's IRAs but not my own (maybe).  I need someone else to get a custodian created too for me and then we could compete.

With just one custodian a 2 of 2 multisig would work ok.  The custodian would be one of the signers and of course the IRA owner would be the other; neither could transact without both.  The risk is the custodian might fail.  To address this an IRA owner could choice a premium arrangement with two custodians.  In that case 3 of 4 multisig would be perfect; if one custodian fails then at least the owner and the remaining custodian could transact.

I might need more funding than I can afford by myself.

This idea (my efforts/work) to date is utterly free for the taking.  If/when things get more valuable, e.g. legal documents, etc., then I *might* want to keep it private but I'm hoping not.  Zillions of custodians just seems like the Bitcoin way to me.
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