The number is rising. Yep. But your interpretation of the contract is merely a technicality; everyone knows that a better wording might have been "each bond represents 1 BTC of BS&T debt" or whatever. Goat can sell up to 40K and still be able to pay back when pirate does.
Merely a technicality - of course ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I'm dying to see if any court would share your opinion. If pirate does pay out anyone except Goat - oh, it'd just be be such a great show to watch... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I don't think that's a scenario we'll have to worry about in the first place.
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You sound like you think that Pirate fully intends to pay people back, but Goat and Nefario are standing in the way of it. You're either delusional, stupid, or a sock puppet of Pirates. Or all of the above. Whether Pirate intends to pay people back, or not - it has nothing to do with Goat and Nefario committing their crimes, like selling TYGRR.BOND-P bonds against the contract.Pirate would likely also go to jail, if he broke any law with a serious punishment - but so far, I haven't seen he did... There's bigger fish to fry.
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Because Pirate40 is very concerned about people getting paid back fairly ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I'm not saying that the issue isn't BS in terms of how it is apparently being used by Pirate, just that Goat seems comfortable having a legal record that involves his identity and his management of TyGrr.Bond-P. So I'm just trying to understand the root of his not wanting to do AML ID with GLBSE. Sorry, I wasn't targeting your reply specifically. It's just this whole deal about Pirate suddenly needing IDs (or at least pairing of BTCST account with forum name) is complete horse shit IMHO. Like he's REALLY that concerned about people getting their fair share hahahah laughable at best.
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Yeah, that payback list is complete BS since there are some fairly reputable members on this forum who have said publicly that they supplied the required info and yet received nothing.
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But troll away p4man... Please troll away...
Yeah. Welcome to the trolling club, p4man! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If you care about my opinion, Goat doesn't disclose his ID, because he wants to avoid having his ass kicked by the people he has screwed over. And you @Goat, don't pretend that Nefario isn't your lying bitch - since I know very well that he is... You are counterfeiting bonds and selling them, while Nefario is consciously allowing you to do so, after he had authorized your illegal IPO - these are serious crimes, in basically every country, so you both will likely end up in jail! Remember the words of the troll. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You sound like you think that Pirate fully intends to pay people back, but Goat and Nefario are standing in the way of it. You're either delusional, stupid, or a sock puppet of Pirates. Or all of the above.
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Because Pirate40 is very concerned about people getting paid back fairly ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Pirate needed to verify individual pass through bond holders because he cares oh so much about people getting their money back fairly.
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Going on day #2, stuck at 22 accounts paid lol
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I have a feeling we're going to be stuck at 22 for a loooooong time.
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no offence to zyk, but he can hardly string an english sentence together, so i doubt he wrote the above passage. I lol'd
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Oh, some guy just joined and is selling gift codes or trades in MoneyPak/PayPal? SEEMS LEGIT.
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I would have said something earlier, but nobody ever listens to me anyway.
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Can we have some proof that hes actually paying these accounts? Transaction info, first hand account, anything?
It seems a bit, well, stupid to just take him at his word.
Negative. This info is NEVER provided.
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It's fuckin bullshit that some accounts (the smaller ones he paid initially) were paid out 100%, while the bigger ones will most likely get fractional amounts.
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So, coming back to the TYGRR.BOND-P topic, and the contract which clearly states: 1) This is a pass through bond to BTCST. 2) The money gained from the selling of these bonds will go to BTCST. ... knowing that now the number of TYGRR.BOND-P bonds in circulation is 31703, while it was less than 27895 at August the 20th - this means that Goat is clearly violating the IPO contract! IMO, such a blatant and outrageous action should not only give him a SCAMMER tag on the forum, but it should also ban him from GLBSE once and for all! But obviously, Nefario still claims that Goat has done nothing wrong - right, Nefario? It's immaterial at this point. Even if it were 1,000,000 shares, 1 million x 0 is still 0.
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I for one can't wait to get my certified letter in the mail.. btw pirate do you know where i live?
Yeah, how is Pirate going to communicate through certified mail when he doesn't even know where everybody is?
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Personally, I trust Goat *WAY* more than Pirate, but if Pirate really wants/needs proof from the bond-holders themselves, I see no reason why he can't just set up an account himself and say "Ok anybody who wants their payout, send your shares of XXXXX bond to pirate_deposits and you'll receive .XXXX BTC per share". Problem solved, and you circumvent Nefario and Goat all together.
OR, Pirate can simply set up his own BID Wall and tell everyone to dump. He doesn't need anyone's info. Goat, Nefario and anyone else showing Pirate just the slightest bit of resistance to his crap should be rewarded, not kicked in public. THEY ARE PROTECTING THEIR CUSTOMERS. Protecting yes, but from who or what, who knows... I highly doubt Pirate personally wants that info. Has there been any clarity on this since yesterday?
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Ok, I need to provide an unequivocal response - I will not be running a DankBank-PPT. OH DAMN, SON!!!
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for all he is a scammer. he sell laptops and playstation 3 in the german forum an never send it. No... You don't say! I'm shocked!
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you still don't get it do you, the greed of cashing out cheaply picked up bonds for bitcents on a bitcoin is blinding you - GLBSE PPTs are NOT BTCST Trust Sub-accounts there is nothing for Goat/Nefario to submit to Pirate. GBLSE should not, can't and won't release their user's data to 3rd parties without a legal motion such as court order
1. Create "mule" GLBSE account named ronald_mcdonald 2. Transfer over all bonds to mule account 3. Submit info to Pirate 4. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) 5. Profit That sound like a good plan... except that the guy who administrates GLBSE is the one that Pirate is trying to avoid, because he's cheeky goat's bitch, that would not hesitate to lie for a profit. So how can you trust in his service? Especially if you know that he recently stole 3000 ASICMINER assets. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1138495#msg1138495Personally, I trust Goat *WAY* more than Pirate, but if Pirate really wants/needs proof from the bond-holders themselves, I see no reason why he can't just set up a GLBSE account himself and say "Ok anybody who wants their payout, send your shares of XXXXX bond to pirate_deposits and you'll receive .XXXX BTC per share". Problem solved, and you circumvent Nefario and Goat all together.
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