Let's not kid ourselves: This forum being a sanctuary to intelligently discuss bitcoin became second fiddle long ago. Now the majority of people who sign up here do so just because they see it as a source of income and nothing more. The merit system will at least force these users to contribute something worthwhile but when the majority of users signing up here have little to zero knowledge of bitcoin and/or can't articulate themselves in English very well this makes their chances of being able to rank up very slim so that's why they're so concerned.

Rickbig is a perfect example of a user being promoted to meet the obvious demand. Rickbig didn't have anywhere near the amount of top reporters but every morning when I woke up there would be dozens of reports by him on spambots and sometimes they'd been there for hours and no staff were awake to simply nuke them. Thus it made sense to make him a mod as one in that time zone was obviously needed. I used to nuke easily ten to twenty bots in the morning alone and since he has been made a mod I've hardly nuked any at all. If you want to be a mod then show that you are required or would be beneficial and keep reporting as that's pretty much the only way you'll be considered and is by far the best barometer to show us that you would be a worthwhile addition to staff.

I think the admins should come up with some rules/guidelines on this behaviour because I don't think it should be allowed. It's redundant asking for merit because if your post or thread is worthwhile then people will give it merit without having to be instructed to do so. Doing this is essentially begging and in my opinion should be treated the same as begging for bitcoin and the posts either edited to remove the offending part or the post/thread just deleted entirely.

Yes. They will be banned. Go away. We don't want posters like you anyway. It's clear you don't actually want to contribute anything especially if you can't earn and I doubt you'd get the required amount of merit to move up in ranks anyway so I wouldn't want you to waste your precious time.

It is a completely useless suggestion and it should be pretty obvious why. It would just cause the exact issue that merit is trying to prevent because people would just spam worthless threads just to get merit. If you want to gain merit then create a thread or post that is worthy of it but people shouldn't get it automatically just for creating any old thread as it would instantly be abused.

A combination of not really enough demand and/or nobody meeting the criteria for the local boards. Some local boards just aren't really active enough to command a local mod and if nobody is reporting posts in there then they likely don't deserve to be one anyway. The Chinese local board is in dire need of a new mod as the current one isn't very active at all and as such it is being massively abused by bots and farmers yet there's just nobody really reporting more than a few occasional posts in there right now.

As for the other English subs I've been saying for years that most of them - especially the big ones - should have their own dedicated mod. Some of the workload should be distributed to some of the more active existing mods but I think it's been long overdue since a user was promoted to staff as well (especially one of the most active reporters with several thousand good reports). I've been getting quite a few messages lately from users asking if they can be a mod of x sub or local board and my first thought or question is how many posts have you reported? Usually it's very little to zero. If you want to be a mod then put in the effort to show you're willing to help out and if staff think you'd be beneficial you may get asked, but I tend to think a lot of the people who ask to be mods these days do so just because they see it as just another easy source of bitcoin income.

The merit system will work as intended for users like him so there's no need to give him extra merit just because, but I'm guessing he isn't an illiterate teenager from South East Asia only here to claim from signature campaigns so he doesn't have anything to worry about. It's those who can't speak English very well and couldn't hope to articulate themselves as well as he can that know they're in trouble hence all the whining. However, he is proof that if you are willing to contribute something worthwhile you will quickly get enough merit to rise through the ranks. Users like him will sadly be a rarity though.

How can you forget you replied and post the exact same post? It's just pure lazy sig spam. Not much different than copying someone else's post really and if you see his feedback from yahoo it's not the first time he's done it (though he's deleted that post). If you go through his posting history you'll likely find more but they're all one/two liner shitposts anyway so I don't think he deserves any mercy here.

Why would most mangers want to do anything about it right now? They get paid for doing nothing so they're not going to want to drastically improve their workload whilst they can get away with it. That's even if they have a manager in the first place. Most ICO campaign don't because it's too much work for them and if they can get away with not doing anything then they will.


Nope. That thread was largely a waste of time if theymos won't enforce it. The community should probably just take things into their own hands and start tagging the lazy campaigns and their managers. At least it worked with shitposters. It will work with campaigns as well.

No. It's to stop shitposters shitposting their way through the ranks. Now making unsubstantial posts will get you nowhere. If you don't have anything interesting to contribute then you will find yourself going nowhere fast. This is the only way to prohibit low-quality posters and reward people who are here to actually contribute something worthwhile.


Plenty of people will achieve their rank, just as long as they're a great poster. The only "exclusive" club it will be is for people who who can contribute something worthwhile. The only people complaining about it will be those who either can't speak English sufficiently or people who just can't be bothered putting the effort into their posts.

Don't make lazy shitposts in off topic. This is a bitcoin forum so not sure why you're here if off topic is your 'home'. The whole point of the merit system is to stop people like you who don't really contribute something.


He can spam away. With the merit system these shitposters will soon realise they're going nowhere.

Is it fair that all a shitposter has to do is make 240/480 of the one liner shitposts above to become a Senior or Hero member? Nope. People are tired of reading the nonsense, no-effort posts. I'd argue now it's actually fair because if you're not willing to put in effort here you're going to get nowhere. Actually contribute something over the many months it takes you to become a Senior/Hero and you should have nothing to worry about.

Yeah, I don't think people should be 'shamed' in some way just for not dishing out merit. It's their choice whether they want to or not so there shouldn't be a table of these people, especially when it will just be populated by inactive users. Their merit will decrease anyway, but there's more important things to be thinking of right now like adding more merit sources and giving more merit to those who have shown they can dish it out well.

Read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0

How can you manage to find this thread but not the sticky right next to it explaining everything you need to know about activity? 

Meta is just a place to discuss forum issues.


Why are there sections to discuss politics or economics? Because the board grew past just being about bitcoin and all alt coins are essentially offshoots of bitcoin. Things that are happening in the development of alts could also be beneficial to bitcoin in the future.


No.

There's a hell of a lot of shitposters with multiple accounts who are annoyed. Looking at their post history you can quickly see why. The culture of people being able to earn money here just by shiposting or copy and pasting an address needs to change. If you're not here to contribute then you shouldn't be allowed to earn.


Lol. Greedy freeloaders complaning that they can't milk campaigns any more. You are the exact type of people the merit system was created to curb. You should stick to one account and contribute something worthwhile with it then you will earn your rank, not just create as many accounts as you want and make a nice living from it just by posting your crapcoin address for an easy bounty over x amount of accounts. And speaking English doesn't matter. Stick to your local board where you can chat in your own language all day long. Say something worthwhile and local posters will reward you with merit. If you can't contribute anything though don't expect to receive any merit.


The merit system does not discriminate against any nationality. It discriminates against shitpoisters who can't be bothered saying anything constructive and that's a good thing.


lol.

This kind of defeats the purpose of them in my opinion. I would rather be able to see the image and immediately know whether it's is helpful or not than have to click on it and find out. I'm sure there are plugins to disable images etc.


I think this is just down to personal opinion and preference. I would actually rather see a nicely presented infographic than walls and walls of ugly text, especially regarding ICOs etc. They can often get to the point succinctly and look more professional (providing they're done right).

I would disagree seeing as probably 90% of my constructive posts are in here these days . I think it's a slippery slope removing signatures from certain boards and you could make your argument for the main Bitcoin sub, Tech Discussion, Politics and practically everywhere else other than Off Topic maybe. Where does it end? We might as well just get rid of them site-wide because removing them from certain boards would also have negative consequences. Sure, the people who are only motivated by money will stop posting in the specific boards signatures are prohibited in, but they will then just migrate to the other sections where they can get paid and then they'll then start polluting those boards. Then people will naturally just request more and more boards meet the same fate. I think the merit system will discourage newer users from posting half-assed rubbish now, but any other spammers should just be dealt with and more importantly the campaigns that keep paying them to do so.

It should be difficult and it's not discrimination. Is it discrimination when people require you to have passed your driving test before you're allowed to drive? No. Now only people who have earned their right to post by making quality contributions will rise through the ranks. Ranks should mean something other than you just made one post every fortnight for a certain amount of time just to become x rank etc. Now ranks will actually be earned by both time and effort as previously it was far too easy for anyone to farm as many accounts as they wanted just by posting rubbish. The system now prevents that. Make great posts and you'll be rewarded over time but if you can't make great posts then you'll probably struggle.


Your posts seem like word salad to me.

The merit system should help curb shitposting now as doing so will get you nowhere very fast, but campaign managers should be policing their participants not anyone else as that's what they get paid to do. Now the merit system is in place the focus should be on campaign managers that do little to nothing as they're the ones causing the mess in the first place and nothing will change about spam coming from campaigns once people get enough merit to join them unless punishments start getting handed out for laziness.



Staff shouldn't have to deal with sig spam as that's not what they get paid to do. Campaign managers need to be doing this and if they're not then they need to go. People would soon start looking after their campaigns if accounts and threads started getting trashed.