I know its been stated that 'august' means as late as august 31st, but can you shine a little more light on the timeframe?

obviously all orders for august will not ship at once, and may take 1-3 weeks from the first order to the last in that bracket. How many orders can be made in august, and will the 'last' order for the august batch ship in august, or will only the 'first' order make it out the door by August 31st?

(I'm order 13X, ordered several hours ago, so I am just interested to know when my money is going to come back to me in hardware form

last i checked, the North American 115V plug is a lot different then a EU 230V plug, so I don't think there will be any issues with it setting the place on fire.



however, the power adapter might not handle 230V, even with the right cord type. A new one may be needed (not expensive, but still a PITA

I expect the same 10GHash boards, perhaps a v2.0 with lower power draw or better overclocking.  I would pay up to 20BTC for it to deliver within 2weeks, expecting to break even within about 5-6 months.

please keep in mind that electricity costs vary greatly. I pay about $0.095/KWH in ontario, Quebec residents see as low at $0.05, and ive seen people on BTC-talk complain about breakeven time using $0.25/KWH.

Id like to see at least 750Mhash/BTC with immediate availability, 1Ghash/BTC would be better

Can we expect a news update soon regarding orders placed during this batch?

I would imagine you add 16 chips to your cart as an item, and an assembled device as a second item

Okay, I just placed my order:

Order:    #1386
Date:    June 30, 2013
Total:    ฿2.746

Is there anything left to do - I made it in with the current batch #2 order of chips correct?  All I do now is patiently wait until august/september when the chips arrive, are mounted to an assembled k16 board, and the complete unit (tested?) is shipped to Canada (presumably in a timeframe of < 4 business days).

What's the timeframe on mounting chips to the K16 board with my place in queue? Will my board be ready in the first week from chip delivery, or after 2,3-4 weeks?

just a shot in the dark, but 11*12*2.56 = 338      perhaps that is somehow responsible for the 333MHZ speeds? (or am i just 'making math work'?)

90-110 BTC seems fair per unit, in the range of a 4 month ROI

this sounds right. i recall the board needed physical voltage adjustment if using an overclock. check the "manual" available online

its called profit guys. If youre the only kid on the block selling USB ASICS, you can charge whatever the hell people are willing to pay. That was 2BTC originally, now its 1BTC, hopefully soon it will be 0.75BTC

quoting your un-quote, because it makes total sense that he would do a tear-down both for himself and for the internet (I appreciated it!), and to see a chip looking like that is a little dumb-founding. you never know if the shell of that chip is now so thin that the internals are affected or exposed, and that sort of issue may not play out until hours or days (or never) later when the thermal expansion (or contraction when powering down) kick in.

oh wait, could it be?



folks, we have here a box of fans.  

way to resolve a potential troll-fest almost instantly! nice job

yup. i give them full credit for finding a price people ill pay and selling at that price like they are. I wont invest for another month till we see some competition push things past 2Mh/s per $ on a small scale or 4Mh/s per $ on a larger scale. There will be intersecting curves of supply, demand, and technology that will see an 'ideal' moment for quick ROI and lasting profits past 2 years of use (the block erupter USB will take 7-14mos to ROI, and would be incredibly lucky if it ever made a 100% gain in the 2 years following).


im thinking this nice little point in time is about a month or 2 away, and will consist of avalon chips being made into avalon knockoffs and the k1/k16/k64 style boards, plus a newer version from asicminer that is faster and better priced to the market.

 If i cannot make my money back with a unit in 6 months from the day i receive it (not place an order or first see it on sale), then the design doesn't interest me. If a system returns its cost in 6 months, you could see another 100% profit after about another 10-18 months, and after that (2years) the device will make little more then the electricity it costs and may even have burnt out or failed already.

the problem is that if it pays off in 1year, during the next entire year it may only pay an additional ~0.6BTC. The next year you would probably make next to nothing.

further, the actual hardware cost of these is much less than 2btc. 1BTC is a more fair price to invest at IMO

I'm watching closely     However, with about a 7month breakeven i hope we see these for 1-1.5BTC soon!

you can get some heavy fines and maybe even criminal charges for fraud like that. Its not so much the issue of paying the difference in taxes/tariffs as it is the issue that the package has a value of roughly 1% its actual price, thousands of dollars difference on a legal declaratory form

agreed. 1mm will also bend if there is too much rough handling during shipping/installation.


interesting concept, though for first-gen waterblocks will be overkill. these boards will create less heat then most highend graphics cards, so I would imagine that in an environment with cooler temps and reasonable airflow there would be almost no need to actively cool it at stock speeds. Basic overclocking should be easily dissipated by a 100mm fan if you consider that a 400w GPU is usually handled by 2-3 60mm fans while in an enclosed space.

second-gen would be the time to consider options like liquid cooling

yes. each one of these will essentially max out the power of a traditional USB port (usually 500mA). A powered port is more reliable and sometimes pushes a higher mA if needed.

even so, batch 1 is reported to run at nearly 560mA according to the OP.