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3861  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transactions can be reversed if . . .! on: February 06, 2021, 02:26:01 PM
This is a really good insight that I wasn't aware of, thank you for this information o_e_l_e_o! I wonder if one could hypothetically translate the 51 % hashrate into actual numbers such as number of GPU's that would need to be working, electricity that one had to "waste" in order to revert the attack. I wonder, at the present time, how many hashrate would have to be employed to revert a transaction in BTC? Is there any graph that I could use to extract this information from?
Attackers can only revert their own transactions but they can not revert our bitcoin transactions. To revert transactions, they need to have sign a valid signature and they don't own private keys of our bitcoin wallets so that they can not produce valid signatures that not belong to them.

I used to misunderstand 51% attack too when I think if it happened, my bitcoin will be stolen by attackers. In fact, if I don't have any related transactions with attackers, I am fine.

You can read more
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One attack scenario against the consensus mechanism is called the "51% attack." In this scenario a group of miners, controlling a majority (51%) of the total network’s hashing power, collude to attack bitcoin. With the ability to mine the majority of the blocks, the attacking miners can cause deliberate "forks" in the blockchain and double-spend transactions or execute denial-of-service attacks against specific transactions or addresses. A fork/double-spend attack is where the attacker causes previously confirmed blocks to be invalidated by forking below them and re-converging on an alternate chain. With sufficient power, an attacker can invalidate six or more blocks in a row, causing transactions that were considered immutable (six confirmations) to be invalidated. Note that a double-spend can only be done on the attacker’s own transactions, for which the attacker can produce a valid signature. Double-spending one’s own transactions is profitable if by invalidating a transaction the attacker can get an irreversible exchange payment or product without paying for it.

See example if you are interested in
Source: https://github.com/bitcoinbook/bitcoinbook/blob/develop/ch10.asciidoc
3862  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transactions can be reversed if . . .! on: February 06, 2021, 02:02:07 PM
So why this article claims reversal is possible?

Reference:
[1] How does mining works

It is written in that article
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Payments with 0 confirmations can still be reversed! Wait for at least one.
It is not 100% the same but as in bank transfer, do you receive your money if you did not see credited amount of fiat in your account?

1 confirmation means one layer of protection for your confirmed transaction. The more confirmations your transaction has, the more layers of protection it has, the more safety you have.

Irreversible transactions. What you asked is Race attack and the fraudulent senders will do 2 conflict transactions (on to you as receiver and one to himself).


I invite you to read a chapter 9, The blockchain in Mastering bitcoin
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One way to think about the blockchain is like layers in a geological formation, or glacier core sample. The surface layers might change with the seasons, or even be blown away before they have time to settle. But once you go a few inches deep, geological layers become more and more stable. By the time you look a few hundred feet down, you are looking at a snapshot of the past that has remained undisturbed for millions of years. In the blockchain, the most recent few blocks might be revised if there is a chain recalculation due to a fork. The top six blocks are like a few inches of topsoil. But once you go more deeply into the blockchain, beyond six blocks, blocks are less and less likely to change. After 100 blocks back, there is so much stability that the coinbase transaction—the transaction containing newly mined bitcoin—can be spent. A few thousand blocks back (a month) and the blockchain is settled history, for all practical purposes. While the protocol always allows a chain to be undone by a longer chain and while the possibility of any block being reversed always exists, the probability of such an event decreases as time passes until it becomes infinitesimal.
3863  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin FreeFloat Supply on: February 06, 2021, 12:55:00 PM
Thank you for the given article.  Wink

You can check the bitcoin distributions with one of the two and without need to wait for reports from Glassnode. I see Glassnode report has an additional information for miners and exchanges.

[1] Screenshot

[2] How to check with the second one?
  • Use queries: q=
  • balance: number is for satoshis): balance(100000000..) *
  • sort addresses out descendingly: s=balance(desc)
*: You must put .. at the end, to get 1+ BTC address, if you don't use it, the filter gives you result for addresses that has exactly 1 BTC.

1+ BTC: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/addresses?q=balance(100000000..)&s=balance(desc)#
10+ BTC: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/addresses?q=balance(1000000000..)&s=balance(desc)#
100000000 is for 100000000 satoshis ~ 1 BTC. Change the number to what you want to filter.
Results:
  • 1+ BTC: 828931 addresses
  • 10+ BTC: 150714 addresses
3864  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Can I lower bitcoin network fees? on: February 06, 2021, 06:33:03 AM
So i can set 10 sat/byte.
If you have not yet broadcast your transaction, now 10 sat/vbyte will help yours get the first confirmation in the next 1 block (around 10 minutes).

Check the mempool there: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#1,24h
See it with the third chart (bottom): hover the mouse to the end of chart (it presents the current time), and see total size of mempool for each fee rate range. You will see from tip of the mempool to 10 sat/vbyte, total size is 0.14 MB. With this site, one block will take a max of 1 MB from the tip.

In reality, you can set your fee at 8 sat/vbyte and get quick confirmation and if you can wait till late of Sunday, you can set the fee at 4 sat/vbyte.

Read more to understand weekend and working-hour effects
  • See my summary post
  • Try to move your bitcoin on Sundays, from 0 to 12 UTC in order to enjoy low transaction fees.


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If transaction not confirmed then it will return back to my wallet in 7 to 14 days. Then i can try with 10 sat/byte....
Is there any chance of stuck or not return?
The default time that a node drop unconfirmed transaction from its mempool is 336 hours or 14 days but other nodes can add your waiting transaction to their mempools.

If you wait for long, and want to get confirmations, you can bump your fee. However, I have no idea that blockchain.com allows you to bump fee or not.

Read details
https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.20.0#tests-and-qa
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18172
3865  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make money with bitcoin 0-confirmations spending, what are legal risks? on: February 05, 2021, 04:51:21 PM
I have a friend who found a way to make money with 0-confirmations spending, I know is not ethical but it is working and I wonder what are the legal risks?
Your friend is a scammer and if you follow him/her, you are a scammer too. It's bad.

Fortunately,if you skip that mixer, I don't believe you can find too many victims for the scam method with 0-confirmation transaction. Good luck.

Theoretically if you send with a very small fee, the funds will never arrive to the destination, the transaction will be reverted. So you can't be left without a deposit because the funds will arrive back, the worst you can have it blocked for a few days
One node might drop your too low-fee transaction from its mempool after 14 days or 336 hours but your waiting transaction can be added to other nodes and can be confirmed later.

It is described in Bitcoin Core 0.20.0 Release Notes, #18172 Transaction expiry from mempool (0xB10C)
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This adds the functional test mempool_expiry.py covering mempool transaction expiry. Both the default DEFAULT_MEMPOOL_EXPIRY of 336 hours (two weeks, set in #9312) and the user definable mempool expiry via the -mempoolexpiry=<n> command line option are tested. The test checks that descendants of expired transactions are removed as well.

Notes for reviewers

LimitMempoolSize() (which is the only caller of CTxMemPool::Expire()) is only called when a transaction is added to the mempool. In order to test expiry of a transaction-that-should-expire, the mocktime is set and a random transaction is broadcast to trigger LimitMempoolSize(). The transaction-that-should-expire is then checked for expiry. LMK if there is another way, but I don't think there is.

https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.20.0#tests-and-qa
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18172
3866  Other / Meta / Re: Share beautiful threads here (bbcode/design) on: February 05, 2021, 02:31:20 PM
I have one idea, but I suspect that it will be quite difficult to implement it at the level at which I see it. I am interested in any examples of beautiful threads, threads with a complex code structure are fine too. At the same time, this thread can become a single place where anyone can find cool thread patterns for themselves and learn more (by understanding the structure of the code).
Your idea description is vague but I'd prefer to let you know the forum is a text-based forum and most of members here are keen on classic format. They don't have good support for fancy threads.

If you want to have a Mega thread in which you compile informative, helpful threads in the community, some members have such:
3867  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: No 'full node', my coins ? on: February 05, 2021, 02:22:03 PM
Then read article saying 'no full node = might not be your coins'.

I don't have the knowledge (or computing space) to run a full node.
As other said, you only need a private key or mnemonic seed (depends on wallet) of your wallet in order to control bitcoin in that wallet.

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How much of an issue could this be for me and is there any way to verify the coins are legit and in my cold storage.
If you don't care much about your privacy, you can use Electrum wallet and use it as cold storage (you need 2 computers)
3868  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help me buy bitcoin on: February 05, 2021, 01:32:02 PM
  • Go to the google play store and download Electrum wallet(simplest to use).
Electrum or any wallet application in crypto, you should not search to find them in Google Play.

Why?
Google Play are bad to screen fake apps, and you will find many of fake apps on their store if you use Search box.

The safest way to download wallet applications are:
  • Going to official websites, and get links to download.
  • Verify wallets.
With Electrum wallet
Notice the warning at top of the page
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Warning: Electrum versions older than 3.3.4 are susceptible to phishing. Do not download Electrum from another source than electrum.org, and learn to verify GPG signatures.

  • Signup and get your address. (the seller will request it)
Sign up, what is this?

Electrum wallet is a non-custodial wallet and you don't have to sign up any account.
Create your wallet (but remember to back up your mnemonic seed), and get your receiving address.
3869  Other / Meta / Re: Forum, Profile signature and avatar on: February 04, 2021, 02:26:13 PM
You have answers but if you have more questions, please read and use Search feature first.

With basic questions, if you search, you can quickly find answers and don't have to wait for replies from community. You can expand your learning progress with Searching.
3870  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance questions on: February 04, 2021, 01:59:47 PM
1) Do they let your trade without KYC? What's the requirement like for their .com? I heard you can trade €5,000 worth of BTC a day without the need to KYC? Is this still the case?
You have to do KYC if you trade with Binance P2P (peer-to-peer) or OTC trading but I don't see any rule on KYC with trading limit.
They will give you a pop up message for Trading requirements, in which you see "Complete KYC Verification"

P2P Binance's' rule
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Identity Verification

Before you can start trading on Binance P2P, you need to complete identity verification, also known as KYC (Know Your Customer). KYC assures that users trade with their authentic identities, and Binance reserves the right to investigate.

OTC trading rule
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To trade OTC, your Binance account needs to be verified.

With non P2P trades, you don't have trading limits per day.

Binance does not require you to do KYC but if you don't, your daily withdrawal limit is 2 BTC. If you withdraw more than 2 BTC per day, they will require you to do KYC.
Read:

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If you have not completed the identity verification for your account, your withdrawal limit is set to 2 BTC for every 24 hours.

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2) If so, then is it something that they say but later freeze your account with KYC demands even though you kept it under 5k and you didn't break their rules? I mean, sure it "could" happen, but is it common with them?
They have rules to suspend or cancel your account [1] but it is different than KYC requirement for > 2BTC withdrawal per day. If you don't do KYC, you can wait for next day to continue your withdrawal.

[1] https://www.binance.com/en/terms
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1. Suspension of Binance Accounts
2. Cancellation of Binance Accounts

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3) What are the requirements to do so - name, phone number, email only?
When you register your account, you can use your email or your phone number.

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4) Can you trade as soon as you sign up (no KYC level)? How long is the signing up process? Does it require approval? Can you sell directly to them?
Create your account is easy, and fast and you can go to trade very quickly after you finish your registration.

Binance don't buy any crypto from users (but I could be wrong).

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5) Do they need KYC to withdraw?
Depends, see above.

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6) Is it safe to get referral codes from strangers and use it to sign up?
I don't see any risk. If you use a referral code from someone else, that person (that account) will receive passive income from your finished trade. That's all.
3871  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: tradingview best indicators? on: February 04, 2021, 08:53:11 AM
I already use RSI,BB,MACD and %BB which are quite accurate, but I'm wondering... what is the best indicator to catch a coin that it practically going up and down?
  • You have to be clear with your minds and your strategies then plans for your trading.
  • After that, you will have to choose indicators that fit your personal traits and your strategies, plans.
  • RSI, BB, MACD are very slow indicators.
  • They confirm what happened with some lag-effects that mean if you use them as decisive factors for your decisions, you are late compare to the others.
  • If you want to have trading positions in short period, you have to choose other indicators that give you more real time signals
3872  Other / Meta / Re: How can I check traffic on this forum on: February 04, 2021, 08:25:32 AM
I am thankful for your memory on my thread but indeed the last update for it is 8 Jan 2021 but in another thread. As some members in the community complained about too abundant statistical threads in Meta board, I listened to them and tried to reduce my works for stasts in Meta by merge my them into one, and keep them updating quarterly, there:

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The related information that is aligned with what you require is that on Unique IPs from logged-out users and Unique logged-in users over a given period of time.
Two statistics have not yet rallied significantly in the last 3 years, even in 2020 when the market is bullish and the best rallying parameter is Impressions count for ads. For more details, please visit to see.
3873  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Q&A: Transaction fees in times of volatility on: February 03, 2021, 03:50:00 PM
Shortly (assume you consolidate small inputs and use Segwit address)
  • Don't use custodial wallets from exchanges because you can not control fee rate and are always charged with over-killing fees
  • Broadcast your transactions in weekends: Sundays usually give cheaper fee than Saturdays. They are the cheapeast days. Cheap fees might last till early of Monday.
  • Hours from 0 AM to 12 AM (UTC time) give you cheapest fee in every day
  • Avoid the time BitMEX broadcast their transactions: ~ 13 PM UTC

Details (please see in following threads)


RBF and CPFP transactions

Examples:
Replace-by-fee (RBF) enabled?
3874  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think need bitcoin blockchain improvement? on: February 03, 2021, 02:13:16 PM
According to https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/charts/segwit-usage, SegWit usage is about 45%-50%, so it's not that bad. I think people still show legacy address because they don't want bother with user who use bad wallet.
I did not know that page, thank you. I have some details to support your info.  Smiley
3875  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Does Binance trip about using a VPN? on: February 03, 2021, 11:54:54 AM
I think you need to read the quote below. I use VPN on binance app and it worked, what many exchanges will disable, which means you will not be able to access with VPN on such VPN-disabled exchanges like HitBtc. I use trading app often, I do not know about their websites.
I saw that quoted post, Osho. Suspicious things mean lot of things and not only bind with VPN. You are fine when you use VPN on Binance but if they detect strange activities (suspicious) on your account, they might step in with account suspension.

If Binance detect that few users make few withdrawal requests to a same receiving addresses, in short period, they might suspend all those accounts. It can be a hack and compromise or replay attacks. VPN is only one of factor here.

OP asked for termination and it would be more serious reasons, not simply because of VPN.
3876  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think need bitcoin blockchain improvement? on: February 03, 2021, 11:20:59 AM
Since Bitcoin transaction fees are priced in sats, then obviously as bitcoin's price rises the fee also becomes more "expensive".

Now, is it a problem? Sure. But it's really mostly not mostly Bitcoin's fault.
Totally agreed with you. There are few sides in the story: Bitcoin Protocol, Bitcoin miners, Exchanges/ services, and bitcoin users.
  • Exchanges/ Services: They mostly apply static (fixed) withdrawal fees. They don't mind to change this fee when aveverage transaction fee on network is high or very very low. The static fee is high enough to be good in days with very high fees.
  • Users

In order to save transaction fees, you need to have a good strategies and solid plans.

Strategies
  • Consolidate your small inputs when fee rate is cheap, as a preparation for your bitcoin transaction later (with a single or less inputs) when fee rate is higher. See the guide from LoyceV
  • Try to use Segwit address (Bech32 address - bc1): it helps you to reduce transaction size that in turn help you to reduce transaction fee (at same fee rate)
  • Have clear plans to move your bitcoin (when - hours, days, bi-weekly). See that topic on weekend effects

Plans

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1. Blockchain.com, Binance, and a few other exchanges/wallets still doesn't have SegWit support.
You missed the updated support for Segwit from Binance. Frankly, I wish that the support from Binance will trigger a way for Segwit support on other exchanges.

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2. A lot of people in general still doesn't use SegWit. I'm still seeing a good number of legacy Bitcoin addresses(outside address staking) being used here on Bitcointalk.
Sure. Segwit adoption and usages are still very low.

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3. Lightning network is pretty decent now, but unfortunately most exchanges still doesn't support them though some exchanges vowed to support Lightning this year.
Lightning network has good growth in number of nodes and channels but network capacity only surpasses the all time high in May 2019 recent months.
Check

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4. A lot of times, people simply just unnecessarily overpay transaction fees because of the really inaccurate fee recommendation of the wallet they're using.
It can come from bad fee estimate tool in wallet or from users' bad practices when they don't know or don't care to choose the good option for this tool.

Example, in Electrum wallet, they would differentiate between ETA, static, and mempool options. Also practice to use slider smoothly to customize fee estimate.
3877  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Does Binance trip about using a VPN? on: February 03, 2021, 10:37:00 AM
If you don't cheat them, I think you won't get troubles.

VPN might cause suspension of your account if Binance detects suspicious activities from your account and log in IPs. They don't force you to do KYC but if you account is suspended, you will have to do KYC. If you successfully verify your account, you will get it back.

Quote from: Binance's Terms link=topic=https://www.binance.com/en/terms
1. Suspension of Binance Accounts
You agree that Binance shall have the right to immediately suspend your Binance Account (and any accounts beneficially owned by related entities or affiliates), freeze or lock the Digital Assets or funds in all such accounts, and suspend your access to Binance for any reason including if Binance suspects any such accounts to be in violation of these Terms, our Privacy Policy, or any applicable laws and regulations. You agree that Binance shall not be liable to you for any permanent or temporary modification of your Binance Account, or suspension or termination of your access to all or any portion of Binance Services. Binance shall reserve the right to keep and use the transaction data or other information related to such Binance Accounts. The above account controls may also be applied in the following cases:
  • The Binance Account is subject to a governmental proceeding, criminal investigation or other pending litigation;
  • We detect unusual activities in the Binance Account;
  • We detect unauthorized access to the Binance Account;
  • We are required to do so by a court order or command by a regulatory/government authority.

Termination. I guess you did not pass their Compliance View due to one of reasons as follows:
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2. Cancellation of Binance Accounts
In case of any of the following events, Binance shall have the right to directly terminate these Terms by cancelling your Binance Account, and shall enjoy the right but not the obligation to permanently freeze (cancel) the authorizations of your Binance Account on Binance and withdraw the corresponding Binance Account thereof:
  • after Binance terminates services to you;
  • you allegedly register or register in any other person’s name as a Binance User again, directly or indirectly;
  • the information that you have provided is untruthful, inaccurate, outdated or incomplete;
  • when these Terms are amended, you state your unwillingness to accept the amended Terms by applying for cancellation of your Binance Account or by other means;
    you request that Binance Services be terminated; and
  • any other circumstances where Binance deems it should terminate Binance Services.
3878  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Guide to check fees: Taker, maker, deposit, withdrawal, transaction fees on: February 03, 2021, 09:44:00 AM
Some people here talked that they don't understand what my box plots are and what strange things I used to do with my analyses. Here you go today with that article on cointelegraph and you can compare it with mine

If you don't understand visual box plots, please read Understanding boxplots. It can help you to catch meanings of this article and many of my other threads.


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The chart shows that, on average, the Ethereum blockchain is busiest from 1 PM UTC to about 6 PM UTC, corresponding approximately to the early U.S. trading session between 8 AM EST and 1 PM EST. This is likely no coincidence, as during this time window both Europe and the U.S. are fully awake and at work.

By contrast, the least busy period is between 9 PM UTC and 11 PM UTC. This also makes sense — The U.S. workday is coming to a close, Europe is getting ready to sleep, while in Asia it is still very early in the morning. In addition to lower average values, the evening UTC period also sees fewer outliers.

My summary months ago.
In the last 30 days
  • Gas_used around 60k combines with gas_limit around 200k+ (p75) look to be good for confirmations.
  • Hour-frames from 7 to 10 UTC are likely best.
  • Hour-frames from 20 to 23 UTC are likely worst.
  • Sunday is the best day (in median). Next one is Thursday (in gas_used, gas_limit) with median, IQR, and p75 values.

When I made this topic, I made 2 plots for Ethereum transaction gas used and gas limit, you can check them at bottom of OP.


Now, expand to more new details for Bitcoin transaction fees. I quoted my post (with small edits for variable descriptions today).
In order to save transaction fees, you need to have a good strategies and solid plans.

Strategies
  • Consolidate your small inputs when fee rate is cheap, as a preparation for your bitcoin transaction later (with a single or less inputs) when fee rate is higher. See the guide from LoyceV
  • Try to use Segwit address (Bech32 address - bc1): it helps you to reduce transaction size that in turn help you to reduce transaction fee (at same fee rate)
  • Have clear plans to move your bitcoin (when - hours, days, bi-weekly). See that topic on weekend effects

Plans


I will make a summary table and edit this post. Stay tuned!

I hope these tables give you better data presentation.
  • You can see weekend and working-hour effects
  • Important note: % of difference here is between median. For your interest, if you use non-custodial wallet, and customize your fee rate, you can get much bigger fee-discount.
  • My own findings match with The daily BitMEX broadcast at 13:08 UTC. In my table how the % suddenly increases to 33% at 13 UTC hour frame
Methodology
  • Intra-week
    • Weekly median: median transaction fees for all transaction within specific week
    • Daily median: median transaction fees for all transactions of each days in a specific week
    • Difference (in %): [ daily median - weekly median ] / weekly median *100.
    • Stats in the table is mean of difference (all observed weeks)
  • Intra-day
    • Daily median: median transaction fees for all transaction within specific day
    • Hourly median: Median transaction fees for all transactions of each hour in a specific day
    • Difference (in %): [ Hourly median - daily median] / daily median *100
    • Stats in the table is mean of difference (all observed weeks)
3879  Other / Archival / Re: why Bitcointalk can't introduce their own Coin? on: February 02, 2021, 08:15:52 AM
Hi ,  Why Cant Bitcointalk Introduce their Own coin , why still using Bitcoin to buy their Copper membership ??
I think it will be easy for all if we can use their own coin to buy their copper membership , Isn't it ??
satoshi - the founder of bitcoin & the forum left the community for so long.

The forum is not created for marketing purpose or financial interest. It is for idea exchanges and discussions about bitcoin, initially and theymos want it to be like that. He does not want to commercialize the forum.

The purpose of the forum

This forum exists to provide a platform for the free (but ordered) exchange of ideas. If you have an idea to express, then it is probably possible to do it here as long as you follow the rules.

It makes sense to give people option to buy the bitcointalk forum's Copper membership by using bitcoin.

Coins, but collectible coins and they are not close to your idea.
3880  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How many of you use "Crypto Prediction Applications" for trading? on: February 02, 2021, 01:56:19 AM
How many of you use "Crypto Prediction Applications" for trading?

You see, for the past few days I've being trying out some of "crypto prediction apps" but I haven't been lucky.
Some thoughts
  • Install many apps on devices is bad
  • Predictions or forecasts are bad if you depend on them for your decisions. It is worse if you bet with predictions/ forecasts you believe in. It is worst if you make loan and bet like that.
  • Crypto market is a finite market and it is manipulated by news. Predictions/ Forecasts are based on past price data, fractals, patterns, etc. and those parameter can not beat news (especially for trading).
  • You must have your own minds. Relying on minds of others won't help you rich and won't help you to protect your money
  • If you don't have much experience, learn from courses or tweets of senior, professional trader as Peter Brandt
  • Use predictions/forecasts or not, if you get profits, try to separately withdraw your capital. If you use all to trade, you will lose them all in bad day(s)
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