Masternode count rising to new ATH
While market depth falling to an all time low Wasn't it supposed to work the opposite way, with Dark-coins being tied up in Madoffnodes draining supply from the markets? Of course the more Madoffnodes, the lower the HYIP payments for each one, with the notable exception of the large holders (whales) like otoh who have more than 100, and thus get at least 1 Extra Special Bonus Easter Egg payment per pass of Go.
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...except Shapeshift doesn't allow you to get XMR at the moment (along with a bunch of other coins). No one seems to have a clue why. Does SS have a warrant canary? If not, they should. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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I didn't get any sellers last time, so I am upping my offer to 55 cents each. Looking to buy today; please PM me or reply if interested.
Sorry brah, but at this time/price nobody is willing to be short XMR. https://poloniex.com/lending#XMRMarket is tight as a drum and thousands of coins are available at ~0% interest to short, yet nobody wants to borrow and dump them... ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Just go to a Bitcoin ATM, or use MoneroClub.com to fin and/or become a local trader.
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As far as I see it Gavin is desperatly trying to save Bitcoin.
You mean Gavin "The Economic Crisis is Over; Prepare For Fiber to Every NFLX terminal" Andresen? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-08/ceo-worlds-largest-shipping-company-global-growth-worse-official-reportsLet's not take Gavin's advice on anything, as he was clearly promoted beyond his level of competence back when Satoshi left. Bitcoin is antifragile, and thus does not need saving. The feigned desperation is an emotionally manipulative marketing technique being used to sell XT via FUD and FOMO.
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Gloarious! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtzjVbv8.png&t=663&c=u0uMrP3WVCzsAQ)
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Hearn: "But But But Muh Preshush SPVEEEEEEEEE connectshunz!!!111!"Everyone else: "Bwah-ha-ha-haw-haw!!!"
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Why are certain coins like Monero and TetherUSD offline right now?
Did SS run out of XMR because of this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3s085o/why_the_altcoin_takeover_scenario_has_become_a/cwt2prf[–]Peter Todd - Bitcoin Expert
For me personally shapeshift adds a lot of value to Bitcoin, as it gives me much stronger privacy by using Monero as an anonymous intermediary point. Specifically, I buy Monero on shapeshift, then sell it to xmr.to, which in turn sends bitcoins to the Bitcoin address of my choice.
Please fix Monero ASAP.
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This is a Dilbert vs Pointy-headed CEO situation, where clueless, inept management refuses to listen to its own hand-picked technical experts. Let's not forget what coblee, Coinbase's VP Engineering, said about XT-like contentious hard forks. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3hp190/charlie_lee_nuclear_option_of_forking_the/cu9e4tjBy forking the codebase, I meant a contentious hardfork of the consensus protocol, the users, and the miners. (Not enough characters in a Twitter message!) Some people have mentioned that it's ironic for me to say this because I forked Bitcoin to create Litecoin. That fork is drastically different than what BitcoinXT is doing. Litecoin uses a different proof of work, so that it's not competing with Bitcoin for miners. And by creating a new genesis block, it did not fork Bitcoin's userbase. Users and miners can choose to (or not) support Litecoin and it would have no effect on Bitcoin whatsoever. People have also said that forking the code is just a push of a button and that people do it all the time with open-source software projects. So forking should be encouraged instead of discouraged. I agree with this, but Bitcoin is different in that there is one thing that you need to be careful with. And that is the consensus protocol. Bitcoin only works if everyone (well, the vast majority of the people) are on the same protocol. Any small change to the protocol will leave users on a different fork and not able to reach consensus with the rest of the network. And that's fine in most cases. Users/miners, finding that they are left behind (shorter chain length), can quickly fix their code to be back in consensus. The reason why BitcoinXT is dangerous and irresponsible is because it could potentially destroy Bitcoin and split the userbase into 2 separate Bitcoin networks. There are very good reasons why most of the core developers and Bitcoin experts are super cautious with increasing the block size too quickly. But these reasons are hard to explain to regular users of Bitcoin. Yet, it is quite easy for Mike & Gavin to convince people that supporting BitcoinXT means supporting block size increase, which makes Bitcoin scale for worldwide use, and it's what Satoshi intended. BitcoinXT is set to trigger with 75% miner support. This means it can trigger with only 50% miner support + a lucky streak. Or if there are malicious people running NoXT, they can cause the trigger to go off without majority support. When that happens, there's no guarantee that the losing side will all switch to running BitcoinXT. Now you've got a split user base and miner base. Some wallets will support BTC, some will support BTCXT, and some may support both. Same for exchanges and payment processors. It's going to be total chaos. Miners will switch back and forth between mining BTC and BTCXT. Users will send transactions on one network and not know why the recipient didn't get it. The price for both coins will tank. If you thought Litecoin and altcoins dilute the value of Bitcoin, wait til you see what BTCXT does to the price! Actually, the market is already giving us a hint as to why BitcoinXT is such a bad idea.A more responsible option would have been to set the trigger threshold at a real super majority of 90% miner vote. If it was set at 90%, the chance of a bad fork would be far less likely. But Mike & Gavin knows that there's no way they can get 90% support, so they would rather risk hurting Bitcoin in order to get their way. Mike has even mention using checkpoints to force the issue if XT doesn't get the hashrate majority ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1089283.0). That is scary. There's a better option. Really try to reach consensus. Unlike what you have been told, the devs actually support increasing the block size. They just couldn't come to a consensus on how much and when. And we still have plenty of time to get to a consensus. Next month, most of the devs and bitcoin experts are gathering in Montreal to discuss this topic to get everyone on the same page. Check out https://scalingbitcoin.org/montreal2015/I urge people to come to that workshop and contribute. I don't see why we cannot come to a consensus on this topic.
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If & when I do, then maybe I should celebrate by putting a nice wall up on Polo ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Don't wait too long. Buy support for Dark-coin is down to ~50 BTC (an All Time Low). Without your sugar-daddy backstopping, the price will continue its trend towards zero.
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The Saudis, especially in the 80s, are/were nothing but the trained poodles of western intelligence. They would never even sneeze without the OK from Washington/London/Paris/Berlin/Tel Aviv. The radicalization of formerly secular countries is part of their divide and rule "strategy of tension." I used to think that the Arabs were idiots, who just love to waste their petrodollars on low quality weapons and whores. But time has proven me wrong. Although they were subservient to the Americans for many decades, now slowly they are asserting their dominance. They know that the American corporations will collapse without the OPEC oil. Now it is the Americans, who have been relegated to the level of poodles. Sure, that's what exactly what they want you and (more importantly) the rest of the world to think. "Appear weak when you are strong." -Sun Tzu SA and the other petro-kingdoms are paper statelets. NATO can flip a switch and change the regimes in Riyadh, etc. within 24 hours. NATO and Russia have all the nukes; good luck "asserting dominance" without MIRV-tipped SLBM. All the Sheik's stacks of fiat and gold and army toys are worthless without NATO's strategic umbrella. NATO's petro-fiat hegemony will end eventually. But until then... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBnNC5Es.jpg&t=663&c=MYg-wXVnhDmZTA) Power flows from the launch tube of a sub.
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Hashrate will follow where the money is. I am not worried about that.
You don't seem to understand - China is where the money is (am guessing you must be American as only Americans would make such stupid statements). Whats with the Anti-American sentiment? I've seen this from a few people in this thread and honestly it's alarming that people are stooping down to this type of level. Haters hate because they're jealous. EG, this Brit envious of his cousins that stood up for themselves and are no longer the property of a (the) Royal Family. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWk5GtQO.jpg&t=663&c=nnniblIM2PX8SA) This lady owns CIYAM and his wife just as an American owns their Buick and their dog.
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we're getting kind of fucked here if all of the large companies are going to start running code for Bitcoin XT and trying to move us all away from Bitcoin Core.
We're fine. Bitcoin was built to withstand such attacks by endowing its defenders with overwhelming advantages. Let Coinbase and Circle try to bite our ankles. They will break their teeth.
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Some 25-30 years ago, Bangladesh used to be a staunchly secular country, where Islamist attire such as Niqaab, Burqa.etc were extremely rare. Things changed in the late 1980s, when the Saudis started setting up mosques in every nook and corner of Bangladesh. The Saudis sent in radical clerics from Yemen and Pakistan, who brainwashed the Bangladeshi children and the teenagers. And in the beginning of the 21st century, Qatar also chipped in, sending in billions of USD in funds to various Salafist groups in Dhaka, Sylhet and Chittagong. It was a very slow process. But it was also a very successful one. At least one-third of the Bangladeshi population has converted to Salafism, mostly the youth.
The Saudis, especially in the 80s, are/were nothing but the trained poodles of western intelligence. They would never even sneeze without the OK from Washington/London/Paris/Berlin/Tel Aviv. The radicalization of formerly secular countries is part of their divide and rule "strategy of tension." Of course, this absolutely must be considered within the context of the Cold War, when militant atheist Marxist-Lenist Soviets were targeting the second and third world for ideological and territorial expansion. If the Russian people had stopped the Bolsheviks (and/or the American people had stopped the Federal Reserve Act), all of that Fundy-proxy-army-creation would have been avoided. It's a nasty, dangerous situation and the more you guys muddy the waters with your (*cough* insufferable *cough*) God talk the worse and more intractable it becomes.
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Censorship. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FW1739Uq.jpg&t=663&c=tJHz26h8hx5e4g) Very disappointed to see Adam Back of all people conceding the (politicized, strategic, colloquial) use of "censorship" as synonymous with forum moderation. Time to start mocking everyone who uses the more provocative, inflammatory term with not only that classic XKCD, but also with pictures of actual Sensor Ships. Like this. ZOMGAWD HALP ITS TEH SENSOR SHIP!!1!1!
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They fuck you over with BTCD withdraws ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) they constantly split mine and I have to keep requesting wd's ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) they just ignore my ticket ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) piling up stolen WD fee's for nearly a year now and they've done fuck all ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) That is glorious, hilarious gentlemen. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I love that a scam-exchange stole your scam-coins. You were given mulitple warnings about CrapSea and "Bitcoin" Dark months ago. You didn't listen, and attacked me for trying to warn you. So enjoy your richly-deserved poverty.
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The AMA overload failed to attract a critical mass of users, but the bills still have to be paid. The desperation is palpable. Bitcoin Judas badly overestimated how much of a fuck anyone would give about yet another rump forum. My prior analysis predicted this outcome. Those eager to defect from Bitcoin's existing consensus are by definition self-selected for fractious tendencies. Given their even higher than normal Bitcoin users(!) propensity to be unable to play well with others, they will naturally continue to recursively divide themselves into ever smaller groups. Monty Python famously depicts this phenomenon in Life of Brian, as the People's Front of Judea despises the Judean People's Front and Popular People's Front (which is revealed to be a solitary individual) even more than the Romans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4 "Splitter!" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Delicious. Our classic frontist cited the joke with the Judean People's Front. I didn't just cite the joke, I *EXPLAINED* in detail why it applies to the topic at hand. Can you do that? In no way does La Serenissima care about the Gavinista Defector Front. Your self-beclowning is only of value for entertainment, like a court jester or village idiot.
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jump out of your bubble and see who and what is really damaging the community ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) The premise that thermos is in a "bubble" is fallacious because it is ad hominem. Let's be rational and communicate in good faith, instead of arguing about who is or isn't in a bubble. Bitcoin, inclusive of its community, is antifragile. We REQUIRE adversity such as the attempted Gavinista governance coup and attempted hostile XT fork to grow stronger. When you whine about "really damaging the community" what jumps out at me is your gratuitous use of the utterly unnecessary term "really" to modify "damaging." " Really damaging?" As opposed to what, fake damaging or trivially damaging? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Such linguistic cues betray the fact you know your argument is very weak, so you (consciously or not) puff up your rhetoric with feeble attempts at impact exaggeration.
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