God created Salty Roger to provide comedy for Bitcoin.  That is the most parsimonious explanation. 

bcash (LOL) is reaching level of #REKT that shouldn't be possible

Yawn.  Bcash ABC devs, to their great shame, raised the white flag and surrendered their wild & free consensus mechanism to centralized checkpoints almost a year ago.

Why celebrate the weakness and uselessness of Dash's cucked, permissioned, fake, stage-managed PoW theatre like it's some kind of victory?


Dash is afraid of actual hash wars, because they are losers who are very much aware Dash can't survive in the brutal world of Nakamoto Consensus, where the longest valid chain rules with no permission needed from Nanny Masternode and her gang of Instaminers.

The point of Random-V is to ensure we may buy competitively commodified RISC-V computers ASAP, in order to solve Monero's (seemingly existential and perhaps otherwise intractable) digital tyranny and ASIC inevitability problems.

From u/hyc:



Making a RISC-V computer the perfect XMR miner aligns incentives to create such computers ASAP.

I get the chicken-egg bootstrapping paradox, and my intented purpose for Random-V is cutting that Gordian Knot using Surveillance Capitalism's irrational exuberence and unlimited fiat supply.

AFAIK your questions regarding gearing Random-V on native RISC-V towards significant advantage over other architectures can only be answered by the invisible hand of the market and cannot be deduced using only pure logic.

But I'm no expert on ISAs or RandomX, and so love to hear everypony else's opinions on how best to test this hypothesis in the marketplace...

Can Random-V save teh universe or will it turn out like Kovri?  

We need your hot takes to keep this baby wild & free!

Not sure.  Was the 20k Polo buy whale dumped into?  If so, that's pretty capitulatey...

Last Chance To Breathe: Why Monero Absolutely Must Implement Random-V


Digital tyranny is at our gates.  Intel, AMD, ARM, and Nvidia have Ring-0 vulnerabilities that software cannot ameliorate and free societies cannot tolerate.
The only practical strategy to forestall the emerging global digital tyranny is socioeconomic sovereign empowerment via private, permissionless communication and value-transfer networks running on end-to-end secure hardware.
In the beautific vision presented below, the two awful trends of digital tyranny and ASIC inevitability are set against each other, producing powerful harmonics sufficient to disrupt, defang, or domesticate both.


Given, in general to the world at large:

1. Indulging in the security theater of running FOSS on Ring-0 compromised/backdoored hardware is pointless, futile, and hypocritical.
2. There is a narrowing window of opportunity for FOSH to remain competitive with proprietary, state-actor backed, incumbent and dominant semiconductor firms.
3. There is only one FOSH project with the critical socioeconomic and technological mass needed to potentially represent a viable challenge to the evil oligoploy of Big Silicon.
4. That one potentially viable large scale (and thus perhaps world-saving) FOSH project is called RISC-V (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC-V).


Given, specifically to the narrow world of Monero:

5. Monero's infamous 'champagne problem' of ASIC Inevitability is logically entailed by sufficient economic success (and/or sufficiently motivated adversaries).
6. Choosing specific parameters for Random-X intrinsically favors one microarchitecture over others.
7. Attempts to equalize performance for [(Intel CPU vs AMD APU vs ARM SOC) vs (nVIDIA GPU vs AMD GPU)] requires continuous readjustment as new generations of tech evolve.
8. The very inconvenient governance structures required to actively manage equalization of these moving/divergent targets expose undesirable social and technological attack surfaces.


Thus, be it therefore resolved that:

Lack of performant and secure FOSH is an existential threat to Monero and all FOSS, and,
Monero as a project and culture must accept the inevitablity of ASICs while transmuting FUD into features, by means of tweaking Random-X to target the RISC-V open-source instruction set architecture, and,
Monero as a united community has the unique power, unique opportunity, and unique responsibility to align historially malincentivized ISA development with its absolute necessities for fast/secure FOSH and decentralized PoW secruity.



Conclusion
Rather than fuss endlessly with actively rebalancing Random-X performance in various proprietary micoarchitectures, Monero's PoW focus must shift to forcing all of them to emulate and optimize RISC-V instruction sets.
This arrangement passively creates competition to radically and rapidly improve the one singular open-source ISA which may be used to rebase critical infrastructure (servers, routers, PCs, SOCs, modems, etc) on FOSH.
As the hardware world is remade and rebased on RISC-V, all the things (smartphone, doorbell, smart-fridge, rescue drone, kill drone, anti-drone drone, Tesla, NAS, laptop, gaming rig, mainframe, etc) may mine XMR with priority accorded by user preference under local conditions.
This glittering futuristic world of all-the-things mining Random-V willy-nilly represents the closest possible approach to a perfectly free PoW market, which maximally preserves decentralization, antifragility, and permissionlessness.




Appendix
Random-V variants: tweaking word-width within a safe 'Can't Be Evil' libre paradigm
RISC-V currently supports 32, 64, and 128-bit register sets. There are proposals to implement variable-width instructions up to 864-bits.
This flexibility allows Random-V developers to retain the ability to create best-fit variants based on the facts on the ground (IE we can still nerf/brick particular RV ASIC monopolies) and/or the facts we wish to encourage becoming true.
To be determined is whether or not to use the same variant on every block forever, or to pre-program future forks to wider word widths, or even to vary word-width between blocks either randomly or deterministicaly.
EG, if 1/3 of blocks are RV-32, 1/3 are RV-64, and 1/3 are RV-128 that may encourage better coin distribution among embedded 32-bit native miners, phone/laptop based 64-bit native miners, and PC/mainframe based 128-bit native miners.

Komodo scam rekt
jl777 

Isn't spamming the main Dash [ANN] thread good enough for you?  Isn't it obvious that nobody here in this Discussion sub wants to discuss your instamined Dark-coin bags?

Please combine consecutive posts into one; we do not need a new Bitcointalk post every time some paid Dash shill sock account posts on twitter.

This kind of spamming and shilling is exactly why Dash's fake news sites got nuked from r/cryptocurrency and the mods here banhammered tungfa.

8/28/15
Why I support BIP101
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1164464

1/9/16
Analysis and list of top big blocks shills (XT #REKT ignorers)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1318519

9/14/16
Stop fuckin' around, fork the son-of-a-bitch already.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616856

That's not how you idolize Craig Wright.

THIS is how you idolize Craig Wright:






 

Now that is some grade A brown nosing!  

How proud Joel, Basilpop/Macrochip/Fabio, and TheDesertLynx must be of fervently following ProfFauxtus the Bcash Thought Leader on his path of on-chain scaling glory (AKA Fauxtoshi's TRUE VISION!!!).

Let's continue following this hilarious tale of Dash being utterly bamboozled by the master of the art, who is impossible to idolize sufficiently...






So Dash really believed Fauxtoshi was going to prevent segwit single-handed?  That's some pretty serious idolization, and getting into fetish territory.

Of course then we come to this plot twist.  




Hmm, I wonder what happened to the cozy arrangement between the Cashies and the Dashies?  Trouble in scammer paradise?  Honeymoon over after 2X failed and Dash floundered?  Maybe the "PR" checks being laundered through Wachsman stopped during crypto winter?

Did you actually follow up with billyjoe and starting busting the many unsustainable, money-sucking adventures like Alt36, Dash Force, and DACH Embassy wasting resources for zero ROI and non-existent KPI?

Or was your post just at best an emission of meaningless social strokes and at worst more of you pumping and shilling to help dump your very heavy bags, before the media finds out Darkcoin was never really dark (because PrivateSend was never really private)?  

Where was all the "constructive dialogue" and "help" you promised when Dash was wasting millions on Fake News about KFC and 100s of other paid actors performing in Venezuela's adoption theater?

IIRC you didn't lift a finger to help Drako cure the Dash cult's hopium addiction, and instead viciously attacked him for even mentioning the problem!

Keep paying that creepy bald guy and 500lb tub of lard for broadcasting their 3-hour long hopium abuse and circle jerking marathons; I'm sure that's a much better use of funds than getting Amanda back making videos or paying for an audit of PrivateSend.  

The sour grapes over Polo is a very bad look and I don't want it rubbing off onto Decred.

For what it is (fiat on/off ramp and altcoin exchange) Polo is excellent.  Their plans for Circle and Circle Dollar are solid and being built out much more rapidly than anything associated with Decred.

I'm an early supporter but it's asinine to pretend the market doesn't consider Decred a borderline shitcoin and somehow it's myriad shortcomings are all OR EVEN PARTIALLY Polo's fault.

Stop looking backwards and whining about how unfair it obviously is to remove Decred but not Dash.

Start looking forwards to Decred's DEX and explaining how it's going to disrupt legacy exchanges obviously, infamously, and predictably hidebound by ancient regimes.

I got my ETC so cheap I'll always be on the moon no matter what, but let's stick to discussing Dash in the Dash thread.  I'm sure you can understand why it's considered bad behavior to go off-topic on a forum, if you think about it for a while.

PrivateSend 








What happened over the last 4-5 years that made Duffield abandon these announced I2P and Masternode Blinding Features?  Does it have something to do with the SEC, FBI, or other ThreeLetterAgencies?

Can Deterministic Masternode Lists (LLMQs) use i2p/onion addresses instead of public IPs?

That's a lot of fancy talk to distract people from the basic, essential truth that Dash v.14 no longer follows the longest chain and is no longer protected by the proven security model of Nakamoto Consensus.

BitcoinXT had a lot of fancy talk to rationalize its checkpoints, too.  How did that work out for them?

Bcash-BAB is also using checkpoints because the real world of thermodynamics and proof-of-work is too mean/hard/scary for them.

How is Dash's version of checkpoints any better than XT or Bcash's?

Masternodes don't make Chainlocks better, they just massively expand the chainlocked network's attack surface by opening up new vectors (hello partitioning attacks ) for malicious and/or incompetent Masternode operators to abuse their trusted third party privileges.



_{#REKT
Tungfa  
Shill  
Spam}  

It's sad after 6 years people still think getting lawyers involved will do anything other than make sure 90% of the the money gets burned by legal fees.

You don't have to be PCR to realized The rule of law has given way to law as a weapon in the hands of government...

If you are still stuck on the Lawyer=Justice=$$$$$ fantasy pushed by Hollywood movies and TV, you may just be the slowest potato in the french fry factory.

Clue: this is Clown World and the lawyers and NOT your friends.

The CEO of Dash Core Incorporated(tm) can just checkpoint whenever there is an imminent threat like a another Binance theft or 51% NiceHash attack.  Security via central authority, try to beat that! 

Ignoring the longest chain worked out very well for for BitcoinXT and can only help Dash in the same way.

Nakamoto Consensus is ancient and broken.  Dash knows better than to use 10 year old technology when they can just roll their own critical consensus protocols and ship them to mainnet after only a day or two of testing the 6th(!) release candidate. 

This is a great idea.  Interesting features should include holograms and molds/dies commissioned from the community's favorite artists.

The best way to make a coin like this would be allocation of access to different versions based on rank.

Of course the coins must have "I AM HODLING" repeated around their edges and their owners' forum rank inscribed somewhere. 

All versions would have the same front text, which would state the obvious


and feature our motto:


and, in a smaller inscription


The 3 versions should ideally be as follows

Regular:

(imagine using a gray metal for the black parts and gold for the white bits) 
Back design+sticker by Cryptopods + OGNasty.
Value of 2,100 Satoshis on 1oz copper (black ruthenium-plated with gold accents that will look sleek af)


Hero:

Back should a Crypto Imperator hologram on a Kialara die. 
Value of 21,000 Satoshis on 2oz high relief silver w/ gold-plate accents


Legendary:

Back: collaboration between Mike from Casascius and smoothie from Lealana; one designs the hologram and the other sculpts the die.
Value of 21,000,000 Satoshis on 5 oz of silver w/ gold-plate accents


All the drama around this project just makes it too perfect for Bitcoin Talk.  Would we want it any other way?

This reminds me of something I wrote long ago and can't find now, perhaps it should also be on the coins? 

Very excited to see this happening. Another holy grail for Mnoero! 

Given the roughly strong consensus that if MNO is an economic success then ASICs are inevitable, do you think it's possible to turn that PoW 'bug' into a killer feature by effectively subsidizing development of an open-source hardware instruction set architecture?

Since RandomX performance is ~impossible to equalize among implementations (ye olde AMD/GCN vs NVDA/CUDA dilemma), why not help catalyze RISC-V instead of unduly rewarding private corps for making proprietary hardware?

If it's possible to redirect 'inevitable' excess hardware mining profit to a hardware ecosystem sharing with Monero's wild & free ethos (rather than continue supporting Silicon Tyranny), let's consider the benefits users and devs of Monero would gain in a world blessed with cheap and plentiful RISC-V things/phones/laptops/servers/miners all happily securing our blockchain according to their individual economic conditions/situations.


I'd like to weigh the open-source hardware development ASIC implications of sha3 vs my crazy(?) idea for a RISC-V optimized/native/friendly variant of RandomX.
But there is a lot of nuance in this thicket of law and culture and game theory and compsci and economics.  Any insight is appreciated in advance. 

How sad that Bcash wasted years on pointless vanity forks that still crash and produce nothing other than comedy for entertaining Small Block Militia partisans.


h/t https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/679kg0/days_since_last_catastrophic_btu_failure/

Fighting over whether Roger's failed ragefork or Craig's failed ragefork is the one and only truly real Fake Bitcoin is beyond a joke, it's scam-ception.

You don't have to just sit and hope because XMR's progress is happening in open source repos and public testnets.

Peter Todd created the 'Dash = cargo cult' meme.  It's a perfect metaphor for their primitive scammunity's 'BuiLd baMboo runwaYs and teh cRypto godS sHall retURn witH LamBos11!1' ideology.

Where have I been?  I've been helping ensure humanity doesn't get stuck with bad digital cash in a Chaumsian failure mode (aka Black Mirror) timeline.

Who do you think is buying /u/Flenst a monstrous Death Star workstation capable of unraveling and destroying Dash's fake, broken privacy once and for all?  

Hint: it's not the cheap/broke Dash-holes paying for all that sweet RAM.  Those greedy ratfuckers wouldn't even pony up a decent bug bounty for PrivateSend zero-days.

Despite plastering this challenge all over, the Masternode whales voted down the proposal to fund a real PrivateSend pen-test regime.  It's almost as if the Dark-coin bagholders didn't want to find out whether or not PrivateSend is really private.


So now Dash bagholders and shills are being taught a lesson by being trolled at the protocol level, watching helplessly as their once-vaunted shitty version of CoinJoin is triturated into its blockchain's constituent individual transactions.  


Tick, tock...

Have you failed to notice that despite the Long Winter coins like BTC, LTC, ADA, XMR, and DCR are still having conferences and their organic communities are still organizing+attending meet-ups, but Dash is not?

Bitcoin isn't relevant to whether or not Dash's community is really expanding.  I don't think Bitcoin's community somehow magically "expanded" despite its objectively observable lower number of transactions.  Of course Bitcoin's lower tx number also comes thanks to Bitcoin's successful Lightning scaling (which Dash can't have without segwit).

There are three ways to expand Dash's (or Bitcoin's, or any coin's) community.

1. TX
2. HODL
3. LEARN TO CODE

Merely talking about Dash and putting little Dash stickers on filthy restaurant doors isn't expanding Dash's community.
And please don't try to tell me anyone in VZ is hodling or buidling Dash; that's not what people in unstable situations do because they don't have reliable power+internet+free time.  Anyone with coding skills and/or hodling crypto bags left years ago.

Just look at this Dash [ANN] thread.  It's nothing but page after page of Dash Shill Force spam, heavy with mobile-unfriendly low-content graphics.  There is no longer an organic Darkcoin community remaining, it's all just fake Dash Corp garbage containing very little information and advertising fake news about KFC using their shitcoin.

Even the self-deceiving pumpers have gone broke and given up on their dangerously misleading permabull TA.  

All of the hype about Dash adoption in shithole places turned out to be a scam.  The girl Dash hoped would be their new Amanda turned out to be a Scamanda who lied about the funds she and her team were embezzling.

Source: "Scam and embezzlement from DASH DAO - Venezuela team fabricated the salary payouts, faked audit, and possibly lied about number of merchants using DASH in Venezuela"
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/aka5kx/scam_and_embezzlement_from_dash_dao_venezuela/

No wonder Bletchley Index dropped Dash from 10 to 20 and replaced it with *TRON*.

^#REKT
Dash