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38761  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 03, 2014, 03:46:50 AM
He's not suckin me in, he's gettin what he asked for lol.. mair heat..

Sorry, thought you had me on ignore, so I deleted my post.  Smiley

He is sucking you in.  His only need is for attention.  He probably circulates through many different forums with these kind of posts, until he gets found out for the fraud he is.

Let him type his nonsense but don't encourage him.  No one here, including himself, takes him seriously.   

Sorry, Vod. It truly wasn't my intent to pull some of your attention away from you onto myself. Worked, though, didn't it?

 Cheesy
38762  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 03, 2014, 03:44:42 AM
Watch the church burn !!!!


Jabut, the church will survive the fire. Will you?  Smiley

See dumb fuck? The church is gettin torn down due to being UNSAFE, and judjing by your words, they are correct..



Now, Decky. Don't you see what you are doing? You claim that the church is destructive, that Christians are destructive. Yet here am I, a Christian, speaking gently and mildly in the face of all the bad, destructive-type talk you are doing. And you are a non-Christian. I mean. What does the evidence show in this?

Smiley

What makes you think I'm not a christian?


Yes, you a Christian. A Christian in name. A Christian like all the bad ones that you attempt to downplay. Yet, here's the difference.

All people make mistakes. All people are bad at times. The difference is that the true Christians turn to God for forgiveness. The unbelievers and false Christians don't. This makes for one difference. Salvation for true Christians.

Smiley
38763  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 03, 2014, 03:32:24 AM
Watch the church burn !!!!


Jabut, the church will survive the fire. Will you?  Smiley

See dumb fuck? The church is gettin torn down due to being UNSAFE, and judjing by your words, they are correct..



Now, Decky. Don't you see what you are doing? You claim that the church is destructive, that Christians are destructive. Yet here am I, a Christian, speaking gently and mildly in the face of all the bad, destructive-type talk you are doing. And you are a non-Christian. I mean. What does the evidence show in this?

Smiley
38764  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 03, 2014, 03:18:30 AM
Watch the church burn !!!!


Jabut, the church will survive the fire. Will you?  Smiley
38765  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 03, 2014, 03:14:00 AM
You kids exhibit God-like qualities. You put up with me for a long time. Then you start bashing me. This is just like God. He puts up with the nations that are against Him for a long time. But finally He doesn't have any choice but to start bashing them.

You kids are so God-like.

Smiley
38766  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 03, 2014, 03:07:28 AM
Am no even readin your trash mate, I know the shit you spout off by heart... Notice how you think you can focus on me instead of anyone else? You say we are all gods children, yet by denying at least one, you fail in your duty to your sick fuckin god, but then you think it's cool to say that all those starvin people asked for it? If I was near you right now, I'd send you to your fuckin maker..  just for your claim that people ask to starve whilst your rulers ENFORCE using FORCE the starvation of not only foreign countries, but your own as well.. your the kind of idiot who walks past a homeless man sayin, trust in the lord, he'll see you alkright, chuck him a dime, and go feast on your choice of luxury food.. a homeless man cannot afford to eat a fuckin bible, he needs food, it does'nt take god for the world to know this, that your society is destroying everuything in the name of your god.. fuck off, and do not mention my name again, cause I'm finished with you, you are scum of the earth, and have just made one epic fuckin fail, now fuck off and focus on someone else.. cause I just squished you all day long like the wee dirty rodent you are....



I almost don't know what to say, Decky. You are outdoing even yourself. Saint Paul would have answered kindly. But he did it in person. I don't know if I could answer so kindly if it were in person. However, you did call me "mate." So, we are friends after all.

Smiley
38767  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 03, 2014, 03:03:12 AM
Don't worry about his mental health - BadDecker doesn't actually believe what he posts.  It's just to get attention he can't get from home.

 Smiley

I'm having a hard time understanding why a dyed-in-the-wool Christian like you would post such things, Vod. Come on. Enough's enough. We are supposed to be saving people. Your reverse thinking has gone too far. Be the witness for God that I know you want to be. Let your light shine. People are counting on you for salvation training. Love, joy, peace, Vod.

Smiley
38768  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 03, 2014, 02:53:27 AM
Oh Boy BADecker, here we go again eh? Always blaming god for the fact your church based society is destroying everything, raping the planet for all it has, whilst making laws preventing us growing our own food as god ordained, and you say we asked for it, just because we dont join your paedo society? This is tantamount to a declaration of war on the human race initiated by you. But dont worry.. It seems god in his wisdon has set the eastern suicide bombers your way for such a declaration, it's just so nice to have confirmation of your true being, blackmailing people into joining you or dying.. Thank fuck for ISIS.. Now fuck off and overlay each letter ontop of each other and see the godang truth of your sick twisted life.. cause that's all your worth.. and one day that dollar sign wont be worth jack shit, then we'll see you starve, whilst god takes care of those who really do care, instead of you.

Your light is dimming my friend, you cant hold a candle to the truth, never mind face it..

Now you know why folks abandoned the church.. because of scum like you.

I dont think I'll be entertaining such a twisted fuck as you or any of your kind again.. now you know why I wrote the truth of it all.. To point out that you are the kind of sick twisted fuck who'd dump his own kids in the fields of starvation, claiming they asked for it, while your pope relish's in all that fuckin money and gold..

Please die quickly, you and your kind, the planet need's to live.. fuck your sick mithraic god!!!!

Like I said a long time ago, Decky, it is the thinking bad people that become Christians. Why? They think! It brings them to the conclusion that they are bad. It also shows them that they will die, and they don't want death any more than any of the dumber people. So, what do they do? They become Christians so that they have life abiding in them.

Simply having life and being save by becoming Christians, doesn't mean that they suddenly turn into 100% righteous little angels. They still have a bunch of bad in them, although there are many who DO become a whole lot more righteous and good.

So, what happens? You simply get a bunch of bad Christians along with a bunch of good Christians, who God gives special blessings to because they believe in Him. The bad ones go off and use their blessings to destroy, while the good ones are duped into believing the lies of the bad ones, thereby handing their money and support over to the bad ones.

All this means is that the blessings that God gives to the Christians simply outweigh the blessings that God gives to the unbelieving nations... which nations would do all the destructive things that the Christians are doing anyway - since they have been doing them for thousands of years already - and it is only that God is using the strength that He has placed in the weaker, wickeder, Christians who love Him, to destroy the even more evil and more wicked nations who are against Him.

Now, you! Whose side are you going to be on? God's side along with the Christian winners? Or the devil's side, along with all the nations that support him and will be lost? Think about it. Because it is an eternal decision.

Smiley
38769  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 03, 2014, 02:24:02 AM
When millions of starving people choose starvation over God, He is only giving them what they asked for.

 Huh

You are your god are fucked in the head man...



You are soooo good, Vod, almost quoting Jesus when He quoted the Old Testament, saying, "You are gods ..." and then went on to say "... to whom the Word of God came." So, why not join with us in becoming a god, rather than throwing it all away in the eternal death? I mean, you are almost there right now! Simply take that last little step and acknowledge Jesus in your heart, and be saved.

Smiley
38770  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Origin of Cellular Life on Earth on: December 03, 2014, 02:10:39 AM

Having read just the above 2 sentences, I already knew you were a religious fruitcake.

...

And this is where I stopped reading and clicked your ignore button.


And, that's were I quit reading and went directly to MFC to see if any new gals signed up today.  Grin

Ugh! Cut to the quick. My heart. Rejected (sob) by some atheists who have set themselves and their scientific leaders up as gods... gods who can't even comprehend the complexity of the universe, yet are willing to reject that there might be a real God Who made it all.

Here I am, left out in the cold again. Nobody loves me. Don't you just feel sorry for me?

I was hoping that there would have been a plausible evolution process found. Sounds strange, doesn't it, that a Christian would like to see a plausible evolution process? But if something like that were to be found, it would show just how great God made people... that they could even find a plausible process for evolution. Of course, such a process would only be a plausible one. Until we had at least a time viewer, we wouldn't be able to see for sure what happened. But think of how great of a God God would be, if He had created the universe and gave humankind such great abilities of comprehension that they could find a plausible method for evolution, even if it didn't happen like that! Wow!

Why else might I want to see a plausible evolution process? Because of this. Since scientists are having some success (extremely minor though it is) in almost starting to prove that there is no God, just think of all the success that they would have if they used the same methods, and the same materials, to prove that there IS a God... since the evidence for God abounds all around us in nature. And actually, this is exactly what the scientists are doing, if we simply apply their thinking to the evidence for God we see all around us.

Smiley
38771  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 03, 2014, 01:30:37 AM
Yeah, nice "god" you guys believe in.   Roll Eyes



Nice picture, Vod. But the god you are talking about is a demigod.

Ah, you're in my head as well?  Come on....

The god in the image above is the one you worship - the chjristsian god.  Claims to be all powerful but can't stop millions from starving.   Undecided

When millions of starving people choose starvation over God, He is only giving them what they asked for.

God has given people strength that is stronger than God's in at least one way. God gave them free choice, to choose Him or not. People are strong in this way. They can choose God or reject Him, even against the good that He would do for them.

All people die. Starvation is simply one of the methods. Old age death is simply a form of starvation. We have chosen to make this life into a thing where death reigns over us all. We seek to keep it that way by rejecting God on a regular basis. Even God fearing people reject God regularly one way or another.

This universe is down the tubes. It is collapsing. You can see it in the entropy that abounds all around us. God is preparing a new universe for those of us who want to be part with Him. Only He can do this.

Come on, Vod. I don't want to miss out on chatting with you for real, and now and again on a somewhat regular basis, forever. Join with us and live forever in the new heavens and new earth that God is making.

Smiley
38772  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Origin of Cellular Life on Earth on: December 02, 2014, 07:03:47 PM
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I think it is correct that a "Religion" has to have a God. Science for me is just the simple, logical process of determining the truth of an observation. There is nothing mystical or worthy of worship, IMO.

If there is no proof that God does not exist, and someone suggests that God does not exist in atheistic fashion even though he recognizes that there is no proof, he is setting himself up as god by making such a suggestion. He is the god of his atheism religion even though he is unwilling to recognize the fact. Strange.

The videos were disappointing for me. I had hoped that there was more of an actual process for evolution that had been discovered. As I understand it, there may be some tremendous strides that have been made, but they are not really anywhere near a process. The process will have to be a lot more complex than the discoveries that have come about so far.

Part of the idea was to make the process as close to "natural" as possible. Yet there was so much "lab" production, that it is difficult to see if a lot of these things could happen spontaneously in nature.

Oh, well. Maybe in another decade or two.

Smiley
38773  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Origin of Cellular Life on Earth on: December 02, 2014, 05:56:47 PM
At the beginning of the first video, Dr. Szostak suggests that we don't have a clue about whether or not any of the planets around the various stars have life on them. Why even speculate? If we find the next planet does NOT have life, then we can say that at least half the planets do not have life. Why speculate? The speculation goes both directions.

Smiley
38774  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why This Investment Will SOAR Very Soon on: December 02, 2014, 05:31:30 PM
it's not going to Smiley

I might agree with you here.

The idea of gold or silver soaring in price means that the value of the dollar has dropped. I think that the people who control the dollar are doing so with a firm hand. They are manipulating everything... not only the dollar, but the value relationship between dollar and gold.

Probably the only thing that could take the dollar down would be a total disruption of electricity on earth, although the Internet going down might do it as well. If this happened, Bitcoin wouldn't be worth anything either. Gold and silver are not traded enough for people to start using it immediately. However, people are resourceful, and they might start pounding out more gold and silver coin faster than I think.

The point... to restate. If the dollar doesn't collapse, gold will be manipulated in value. If the dollar collapses, the people aren't familiar enough with using gold so that it will come into much use again for some time.

My idea of the best investment is land with water. The second is lots of cash dollars tucked away under the mattress, even if inflation takes the value out of them. Cash dollars will be useable short term if there is a collapse, and you can always spend them if there isn't.

Gold and silver, and Bitcoin, are temporary investment vehicles only.

Smiley
38775  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Origin of Cellular Life on Earth on: December 02, 2014, 05:12:33 PM
I have watched about half of the first video so far. It isn't impressive.

Having read just the above 2 sentences, I already knew you were a religious fruitcake.

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Up until now, atheism has been built purely on blind faith, simply because the "snippets" of science that seemed to point at evolution as being real,

And this is where I stopped reading and clicked your ignore button.

Sorry. I wasn't trying to trample on your religion. I was simply pointing out some things in the beginnings of the first video.

Boy, some of you atheists are touchy about your religion. And I suppose I would be about Christianity as well, if Christianity were simply based on blind faith.

What I don't understand is how atheists can hang onto a religion that so constantly says "maybe," "possibly," "if," and all kinds of other limiting factors that show that nobody really has any kind of a clue about the foundations of the religion. You guys are distinctly admirable in your bravery, blind though it may be.

Smiley

Atheism isn't really a religion but it still hinges on a sort of blind trust that all assumptions thus forth are logical and rational even if they themselves cannot rationalize it, which makes it just as contingent on this faith factor as religion.

Seems to me that atheism is a sort of primitive religion. It has most of the things that are required for something to be termed a religion. Yet, unlike most modern religions - Christianity, Buddhism - there are certain parts of atheism that aren't expressed clearly, while other parts are expressed in detail, like dogma.

I might compare the atheism religion to one of the more primitive cells in early evolution history. Christianity would be like a very specialized eye cell or brain cell.

The prerequisites for atheism being a religion seem to be there. There is no proof that God exists; there is no proof that God does not exist. So, why believe God does not exist? There is no foundation for such a belief. This makes atheism, at the very least, very similar to a religion.

Smiley
38776  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Origin of Cellular Life on Earth on: December 02, 2014, 05:04:51 PM
I am a biologist, but it doesn't help. Where life comes from is one of those central issues in science that still does not have an answer. I am at work and could not watch the videos. However, it sounds like the "primordial soup" idea. That is where a mix of complex molecules start a chain reaction that leads to a replication of the original state.

That is what I learned in school, but I am no longer sure about.  I say this because, although we have been able to make organic molecules by simulating the early Earth since the 1930s, we have failed to create life. Something else is going on also. I have no clue what it is, but my guess is that it involves physics that we don't understand yet.

As far as we can tell, life on Earth is part of a single occurrence. Since then life has branched and evolved into countless varieties of the same phenomena. The differences between me and a tree are really trivial. We are just different expressions of the same molecule.

Mind blown.  Smiley

I have watched the full first video now. And it seems, as I said in my first post above, that there is enough of an understanding of the primordial soup idea (although I didn't use the term "primordial soup" that is what it is about), that scientists are attempting to finally put together a plausible method that the whole process could have come about.

Up until now, all the ideas that had been formulated, were ideas only. There wasn't any complete enough scientific evidence that provided a clear way that it could have happened. It seems that some scientists think that they have found a way that really might have worked, one that they can back up scientifically.

Of course, without a time viewer or time machine, nobody can tell for sure if it happened this way. That's because there are too many variables that might have made things different than the way that they think it might have happened. Perhaps someday we might have a time viewer that we can use to actually use to take a look back.

Smiley
38777  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Origin of Cellular Life on Earth on: December 02, 2014, 04:46:25 PM
I have watched about half of the first video so far. It isn't impressive.

Having read just the above 2 sentences, I already knew you were a religious fruitcake.

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Up until now, atheism has been built purely on blind faith, simply because the "snippets" of science that seemed to point at evolution as being real,

And this is where I stopped reading and clicked your ignore button.

Sorry. I wasn't trying to trample on your religion. I was simply pointing out some things in the beginnings of the first video.

Boy, some of you atheists are touchy about your religion. And I suppose I would be about Christianity as well, if Christianity were simply based on blind faith.

What I don't understand is how atheists can hang onto a religion that so constantly says "maybe," "possibly," "if," and all kinds of other limiting factors that show that nobody really has any kind of a clue about the foundations of the religion. You guys are distinctly admirable in your bravery, blind though it may be.

Smiley
38778  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Origin of Cellular Life on Earth on: December 02, 2014, 04:24:05 PM
I have watched about half of the first video so far. It isn't impressive. Throughout all of the language used, there permeates this "rope" - not a simple "thread" - that everything being talked about is uncertain. I think, so far, that the thing that they are looking for is a way to formulate a somewhat realistic idea of how life could have come about spontaneously, even though they don't have a clue if it happened this way or some other.

In other words, up until now there have been all kinds of ideas about evolution. Some of the ideas make sense, and some of the ideas don't. Science is trying to combine enough of the ideas that make sense, in such a way that they will finally have a potentially possible working method for life to have spontaneously emerged.

This working method won't be known to be the way that it happened, but rather, it will simply be one way that it almost for sure could have happened.

This is a shot of hope in the arm for the atheist religion. Up until now, atheism has been built purely on blind faith, simply because the "snippets" of science that seemed to point at evolution as being real, could never be combined in a way that could plausibly have worked. In other words, all the possible paths that evolution could have come about, building itself from inanimate material to the life that we see around us today, were so full of holes that nobody could know if any of them were even possible.

Well, it's a start. Gotta start somewhere. The first millimeter on a million mile trip.

Smiley
38779  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 02, 2014, 09:53:49 AM
You are so fuckin wrong dude.. all I have done is produce in a single thread, evidence that is splattered all over the world in front of your very eye's.. you break up my posts to highlight your nitpickin, but if you just put it all together one post after another, without interupting with your pointless bible bashing, you'd actually learn why and how your bible was created. Your just so lost in one book, you forgot to do the maths, despite the FACT this mathematical equation, being THE spiritual equation, would actually prove your god exists.. oh, you lik it now? Tough.. for it IS the evidence that god exists, if there was, is or will ever be any at all. you just want to insult people with your very mundane knowledge, thinking I'm trying to be god. No. All I have done is what you do, take what you need from said book, and use it to show the world. You however cant prove jack shit, because you have no mathematical data to back up any of your arguments, and this is why you or your book, cannot defeat me. For this maths is in your book, well hidden from people like you, and you'd have to actually know what your talking about just to realise I really am telling you the truth, not as I see it, but as is written into everything you, I, or anyone else, see's, hear's, or does. The fact that the twin tower's alone incorporate this very equation cannot be refuted by you or any mathematical einstein, in fact, I'd love to hear from anyone who knows, that when taking all the maths in this thread written by me, and placing them all together as one, that I am in fact correct.

The maths is of no interest to me, but once was.. look at your clock.. a 24 hour day represents the 240 feet you need to dig to find the tunnel that ends in a wall, which will become a wall of light when using the key of the seven days of the week. Each day of the week represents one of the seven chakras.. or seven inner sphere's (planets to you), the maths to prove all this is the magic squares, derived from the spiritual equation I just showed to all, and I know I aint the only one that knows this stuff, quite the opposite in fact, in fact, I'm surprised with our knowledge of the bible, you've never used a single mathematical equation that comes remotely near spirituality, showing your lack in faith in your book. You never were any good at joining the dot's were you? So your only defence is to insult. I only insult your character in order to get your attention and show you that the world aint gonna end, it's just gonna get very fuckin evil soon, as is showing already.. do we really need a book, when we'd be better off doin something about it?

Wake up dude, this thread HAS the evidence of the spiritual equation proving god's existance, but only when you understand the maths will you truely see the light. Dont question it, take it on faith.. I mean, if your suggesting I got your presidents to agree to the new twin tower.. now you know why I think your the one who's well and truely beyond insane. More people know what I have written than know the bible. This equation has lasted through 6 civilizations.. the bible only exists in this, the 7th..

Are you talking to me? It's difficult to see it if you are.

Seems like you are talking back to your spirit guide or something, and half of what you say is its answers.

Well, if it IS me you are talking to, thanks for explaining yourself. I'll stick to something that makes sense - the Bible.

Smiley

You must be fuckin deaf. Or blind. What I have written is for those with eye's to see, and ears to hear.. The spiritual equation wrote your fuckin book, get a fuckin life.. you like the bible but hate it's scource? Dumb fuck.. You know well and truely I been talking to YOU, and NO-ONE ELSE. The rest know what I'm saying, your just too fuckin dumb to know anything at all.. just keep on promoting the book that proves that the second coming is the devils son.. cant wait till you see it for real.. but you wont know the maths required to wire your brain up, to defeat the lord of whatever.. we are at the cusp of eternal hell.. thanks to your second coming.. promote wisely my friend.. For I know god cant do fuck all about it if there is a single person in existance that seperates a part of that god from himself. United we are god. Devided, we are you. Njoi.

Take another gulp. Makes it easier for me to tell if you have changed who you are talking to.

Smiley

EDIT: I knew that. It's why the devil is lost. He already has lost a bunch of people. He will never have enough to become God. Stick with the original God. That's the only way you will have success.
38780  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 02, 2014, 09:47:57 AM
And I will point out that no-one else is arguing against what I am writing.. ok, I could go about it your way, but then I'd be lost. Your Tarot cards came from this maths. Your electricity uses this maths in the guise of mercury, but your thinking of either the planet or the metal.. you dont even know that there are actually 12 squares when opening a box up to reveal the cross.. 6 you see, 6 you cant, all equal size's.. all I have done is show you the maths that will hopefully help you stop talking crap from the bible, and ACT on it.

LOL !   Cheesy

Think I'll have a slug of something alcoholic, myself.
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