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3881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: January 02, 2014, 06:03:13 PM
Nobody here pretends to know how things will turn out for any crypto currency. After all, if we did, we'd all me millionaires, right?

As I said, if the value of Cat decreases below the average to a tipping point; 0.0005 BTC. Then we can discuss a Hard Fork. Right now it's wavering between 0.0007 and 0.0008. I'm all in favour of constructive ideas, but only when the indicators are clear. Right now they aren't.
3882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [Pre-Ann] MSPaintCoin - Because why not? on: January 02, 2014, 03:18:52 PM
You forgot to ask for donations for research and development of the coin and a promise of a quadrillion megashares for every BTC donated times infinity to the right angle of a hypotenuse triangle.

Other than that, well done.
3883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NyanCoin - Out in less then 24h !!!!!!! NYAN on: January 02, 2014, 03:12:10 PM
This coin is a flop before its even released. People move on dont even bother putting your hashrate towards this.

You are just saying that because you don't want to lose people mining CatCoins :p

Considering the amount of coins there is to contend with, I think there's room for 3. Kitteh Coin is also doing very well. NyanCoin's only problem appears to be one of intellectual property.
3884  Other / Archival / Re: [VSC]Visacoin:Born for circulation--based on BTC-Gold--Project start!!! on: January 02, 2014, 03:04:49 PM

Yep. They only stand out because all the crapcoins have vacuous OPs. These threads look more legitimate by comparison (which isn't saying much).

Oh look, they're hiring developers. They must be real, then.

The fact that you can join this forum and just in few days accrue tens of thousands of dollars worth of bitcoin by spending 30 minutes writing a post is incredible beyond measure. With no buyer protection whatsoever. This is the worst kind of gambling.
3885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] [RAPE] RapeCoin - because you can't say no to this coin on: January 02, 2014, 02:59:10 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached that pivitol moment where Alternate Cryptocurrencies have finally jumped the shark.

Trolling by currency.
3886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: January 02, 2014, 02:15:35 PM
I'm not saying the idea should be completely off the table, but unless we see a daily drop in the average price of Cat on the exchanges then it would be premature. If it goes below 0.0005 then I would be open to the discussion of what would happen IF a hardfork to change the difficulty were to be implemented.
3887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: January 02, 2014, 02:02:08 PM
I am not sure how much of "bonus" a real short-term profit-maximizing miner would need to receive as a donation to see this coin as a profitable mining target for a few weeks.
According to my earlier estimates, the price must be >=0.002 BTC for CAT to be profitable for mining and >=0.0025 to be picked up by auto-switching multipools/rigs.

But I still think that the only problem is the price! And it probably needs nothing else but time.
Why would anybody sell this coin significantly cheaper than their estimated profit (something similar to MOON or DOGE mining)?
Because they make panic sells! But panic sellers don't buy it back and re-list it, and there is only finite number of coins on exchanges. Speculators will re-list it at higher and higher prices!

That's essentially my argument. Hashrate will drop, coins will become rarer, value increases on exchanges, hashrate will return. I'm open to a counter-argument to that theory.

Hardforking the coin could destroy any chance this coin has. If it gets to the point where the value of the exchanges starts dropping, then I would seriously consider the idea viable, but until then nobody knows whether or not prices will soar or drop, and forking in the middle of that uncertainty invites chaos. Waiting a little longer for such a massive decision is the wisest course of action.

There is a lot panicking going on which right now is doing more harm than anything else.
3888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: January 02, 2014, 01:33:32 PM
nullu and what would be wrong if the coin would retarget difficulty every 1008 or 504 blocks? You just admit that the code is not adapted to the current altcoin situation in the miner world.

No, what I'm saying is it will take longer to adapt, because it is a new coin, and the early coin holders, relative to the amount of coins being produced, is disproportionate. Over time as their share of coins decrease to the amount of coins in circulation, the value will increase. This is the Scrypt version of Bitcoin in a world of crap coins.
3889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] RareCoin - the rarest crypto altcoin! LAUNCH 6th January 6:00PM PST on: January 02, 2014, 01:16:17 PM
Soon rarecoins will be so common they won't be rare at all.

First there were a ton of coins with high totals, and now we're beginning the trend in the other direction.

I wish coins would do something a little more unique than just tweaking the total amount of coins.
3890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: January 02, 2014, 12:59:37 PM
My major question is, aren't we going to keep doing this over and over again if the code isn't fixed? In 2 months from now at this pace, when the difficulty drops, the coin will be worth whatever, but it will still be valuable at that difficulty, the pump and dumpers will come back, drive it back up to 2.5ghz, difficulty will sky rocket, and we will be back in the same place. I have 5mh/s but it is so hard to point it at cat....at this pace I could mine lot, sell it all for cat, and get 5x as much cat as I would if I just mine it straight up. I am loyal and dedicated, but there is no incentive to keep mining it really when people are going to blow it up again. I mean it just sucks with this horrible retarget, people will keep doing this over and over again if the coin is worth anything, and it crushes the small guys that are dedicated and didn't get thousands of coins on release (stupid family christmas party). I have invested a few btc and mined it as soon as I heard of it, but I don't know about the future and this crazy difficulty.

You're assuming the code is broken. It isn't. What's preventing the miners being all over this right now is the profitability, and what's preventing the profitability is the early miners who still hold a lot of coins. A lot of miners use multipools which automatically mine the most profitable coin. Because of those early miners on the coin exchanges holding down the market price, the coin's value is lower than it should be. Once the value goes back up, the profitability goes back up, and so the hashpower returns. The market manipulators can't keep it up indefinitely.

There is no inherent flaw with the coin. It's a Scrypt version of Bitcoin. The coin is brilliant and should never be changed. It's the behaviour of pump and dumpers that has put the coin in this phase. It is just a phase. As I've said and will say again, all coins go through phases, and FUD (Fear, uncertainty and doubt) is more harmful than anything else.

All coins go through ups and downs. This is a historical fact. The coin isn't even 2 weeks old yet.
3891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FREE][FAUCET] CatCoin on: January 02, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
Fix the faucet, get the payouts 10x smaller and I will donate CAT. I also know a few others who will also donate CAT provided the faucet is functional and legit. I'll know exactly how much they'll be putting in.
3892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: January 02, 2014, 12:50:19 PM
only 1000 CAT which is less than 1 BTC is 1/1000 of supply.
so hopefully early miners have dumped their coins soon for a quick profit

Judging by the behaviour on Cryptsy there are still some players with a lot of CAT trying to manipulate the market.
3893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why would i still invest in bitcoin? on: January 02, 2014, 12:48:48 PM
Worse, actually. Most are saying not to use copper coins but instead of buy ponzi stamps and try to convince merchants to accept their ponzi stamps, knowing full well they could all be blown away at any time by the next internet meme that happens along.

-MarkM-


It's all very depressing. I see so many people on these forums investing in dust and thin air. Big amounts of money. It's like the new penny stocks and ponzi scams of the digital age.
3894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto-Funded College Education on: January 02, 2014, 12:44:13 PM
I'm not going to go as far as to call you a liar, but unfortunately 99% people of the people with a backstory asking for donations are liars and scam artists.

That is by no means to suggest that I think you are one. I honestly have no way of knowing either way. Unfortunately you're in a sea of cynicism and distrust, and you'll have a difficult time, honest or not, of making any money from this.
3895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why would i still invest in bitcoin? on: January 02, 2014, 12:40:29 PM
Bitcoin by altcoin standards is a lot more stable. Most posts I've seen by other users who advise investing in Bitcoin suggest it as a long term investment. Years. Altcoins are highly volatile in comparison. If you can afford it, investing in Bitcoin when the price takes a dip, and then investing in altcoins at the same time gives you two different forms of investment opportunity. If I had a few thousand, I would feel safer putting it into bitcoin and cold storage than the meagre pennies I get in interest from my bank. At the same time I'd also want to be making shorter term investments in new crypto currencies and knowing when to hold and when to fold.
3896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: January 02, 2014, 12:37:03 PM
Yes i agree, still alot of catcoins coming forward to be sold, the panic sellers are still selling. Once they are out the way and there is some stability then we can see the true catcoin start to grow. We are now in the new year with a new coin, alot will start happening over the coming days/ weeks. Im holding my catcoins as i believe this coin is unique, and believe its going to go far.

I hope you are holding them, You have quite a few coins, my friend.  Cheesy
3897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Keep an eye on VSC - Visacoin to see whether it is a scam or not on: January 02, 2014, 12:31:54 PM
Why? WOuldn't it be better than they not continue scamming more people?

The sooner they vanish with the loot the better.

-MarkM-


I really wish people would spend their money more wisely on coins that aren't scams or schemes.  We'd see a lot more growth in cyptocurrency if there wasn't so much scammery.
3898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: January 02, 2014, 12:28:51 PM
Things are going well. If the coin was really in trouble we wouldn't have the activity and interest we have. Once the dev gets back on track we'll be cooking.

- We've got a casino site that may be using Catcoin in just a few days.
- A faucet has finally emerged.
- There's an online wallet and being developed
- The coin is on 3 exchanges
- Multiple bounties for further development of services
- Several key contributors in the community
- Strong and unique coin - Scrypt version of Bitcoin
- High Volume of trading
- Scarcity
- Popular
- Fantastic coin name

This coin has 100 times more things going for it than it has against it. I think you have to take it all in context.

The reason it's where it is now is because most altcoins are just pump and dump instamines. This isn't one of those coins. It's a long term coin. That's why it's where it is. It's far more profitable in the short term to coin jump every time a new crapcoin is released. Catcoin is designed to have a longterm future as a cryptocurrency. Whether that design was intentional or not I don't know, but either way It's on a lot more solid footing than 99% of the altcoins out there.
3899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FREE][FAUCET] CatCoin on: January 02, 2014, 12:21:12 PM
The payout is much too high for the value of this coin. It needs to be 10 times smaller at least. 0.0009.

The faucet will never build up any coins at that rate.
3900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Catcoin - Scrypt meow! on: January 02, 2014, 12:19:06 PM
This was discussed 10 or 15 pages back. It's called a Hard Fork, and it could pretty much destroy the coin. It would also remove what makes this coin appealing to begin with; a Scrypt version of Bitcoin. It's exactly because of the way the coin is designed that it is currently in the position it is in, however it is quite possible it will come out of this as an extremely strong coin.

What we don't need is all the FUD going on. Yes, the coin is going through a major phase, but panicking is just going to make people sell their coins below their value.

We don't need panic. We can't change the coin now. Sensible and rational debate, as well as promotion and continuing to support the growth of Catcoin is in order. This thread has shown that this altcoin is a cut above the 99%. Lets not run around like headless chickens at the first sign of a dip. All coins go through phases.
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