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3881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anon136's NXT Orderbook & Escrow Service on: January 20, 2014, 02:54:37 PM
We officially have our first price guys! its 0.0000546
3882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 04:53:58 AM
If you want to get more users, and more media attention, when you have the amazing client of "nexern" , I would make the biggest GIVEAWAY ever on Bitcointalk. 1.000.000 NXT with the "unclaimed funds" of CfB

200 NXT each user, so they could use and see the amazing coin we have. We could get a lot of users, and we could take away all the FUD that we have.

thanks.

Its a good idea in general but it shouldnt be done through giveaway on the forum. It would be exploited by giveaway thread scammers. The way to do it would be a faucet giving away inordinately generous payouts and a lot of promotion to make sure that as many people as possible knew about it before hand. Captchas can not be gamed. It would be a really fair way to get a lot of nxt widely distributed among a lot of people. I wouldnt even be adversed to giving the whole 9 mill away like this. Do it in a couple of rounds so that word spreads from the first round so that you have even more participants in the second and third. This would generate a TON of buzz and a lot of involvement.

Bounties are much better I think. It's better to pay for advertisement, exchanges and software, then give all to forum trolls.

What I described would be a very effective way to market nxt. We should probably have a good solid cross platform 1 click client, a professionally written whitepaper, and a professional audit of the code before we think about marketing. After we have those things though, than this could potentially be the best way to market the coin.
3883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anon136's NXT Orderbook & Escrow Service on: January 20, 2014, 04:49:27 AM
Hello

please add my order

buy  80 000 nxt for 0,000050 (4btc)
3884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 20, 2014, 04:24:13 AM
If you want to get more users, and more media attention, when you have the amazing client of "nexern" , I would make the biggest GIVEAWAY ever on Bitcointalk. 1.000.000 NXT with the "unclaimed funds" of CfB

200 NXT each user, so they could use and see the amazing coin we have. We could get a lot of users, and we could take away all the FUD that we have.

thanks.

Its a good idea in general but it shouldnt be done through giveaway on the forum. It would be exploited by giveaway thread scammers. The way to do it would be a faucet giving away inordinately generous payouts and a lot of promotion to make sure that as many people as possible knew about it before hand. Captchas can not be gamed. It would be a really fair way to get a lot of nxt widely distributed among a lot of people. I wouldnt even be adversed to giving the whole 9 mill away like this. Do it in a couple of rounds so that word spreads from the first round so that you have even more participants in the second and third. This would generate a TON of buzz and a lot of involvement.
3885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT Ought to be Taken Seriously on: January 20, 2014, 02:50:05 AM

WOW! did you do the translation?
3886  Other / Politics & Society / Re: stateless seasteaders existed for hundreds of years, we just need to join them on: January 20, 2014, 12:22:26 AM
Yea like i said in an earlier comment. It definitely would have to be a stepping stone at best. Think of it as a nursery for a proper future sea-stead.

As for running away. I'm perfectly content to run away if thats what i have to do to get my freedom. But thats just a personal choice. I totally respect your mentality of fighting for what is yours.

Of course it would be expensive. But freedom would cause our society to be so unprecedentedly productive that it would more than make up for the cost.
3887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anon136's NXT Orderbook & Escrow Service on: January 20, 2014, 12:14:12 AM
set price to 0.00005995 BTC

remaining balance of Nxt 6734 hold in escrow
until...

make sure the amount transferred from dgex is
reflecting the same Amount on order books

thx anon136



very welcome
3888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 08:54:13 PM
shamelessly advertising my orderbook https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuZ9UiDk97ajdFQtdHN2RElUQU10NjdqRUNkWm5uUlE

if you get a chance than stop by, place an order, leave some feedback, anything helps. still havn't managed to get many orders yet.
3889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 08:49:13 PM
Well, I faced a moral dilemma and would like to ask for an advice...

FrictionlessCoin created a thread dedicated to NEX (descendant of NXT). I had a lot of fun reading that thread but I suspect some people took NEX seriously. The problem is that if FC waits till April when Nxt source code becomes completely open, he still won't be able to generate a valid genesis block, coz Nxt uses a crypto algo modified by BCNext (this is why we collected 10 BTC for the audit). I support all cryptocurrencies and would like to help him to create a new genesis block, competition is good for the whole crypto-community. But this could look not very good to guys who own NXTs...

What would u do?

i vote for not fighting it but just because we dont fight it doesnt mean we need to go out of our way to help. let him figure it out himself. if he cant find his own solutions than they arnt really "competition" anyway
3890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT - Voting on the scope of authority of the funding committee on: January 19, 2014, 08:02:51 PM
bounties put the incentives in the right place
3891  Other / Politics & Society / Re: stateless seasteaders existed for hundreds of years, we just need to join them on: January 19, 2014, 07:23:45 PM
Would this technically be seasteading as international waters are 12 nautical miles away from a country?

I know a shallow place and a good method to seastead but nobody wanted to listen to me back in 2012.

maybe not de jure but i think its pretty much de facto sea steading.

atleast its almost certainly the closest thing to it and so a natural launching point. Mostly i just want to communicate the idea of a decentralized approach to seasteading.
3892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 05:04:01 PM
We have a Java server that is getting better every day, what we need is a well designed and fully cross-platform GUI for it, not an alternative implementation.

+1
3893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anon136's NXT Orderbook & Escrow Service on: January 19, 2014, 04:50:14 PM
BUY 50.000NXT @ 0.0000275

added. dont forget to post in this thread atleast once every 72 hours to let me know that the order is still active.
3894  Other / Politics & Society / Re: stateless seasteaders existed for hundreds of years, we just need to join them on: January 19, 2014, 04:34:38 PM
I need to learn how to cook the pufferfish safely while checking my raspberry Pi bitcoin wallet at sea.

Thats the spirit!

Its strange to me that libertarians tend to be so committed to a centralized approach to seasteading. We just need to buy sailboats and pick a meeting place. Grin
My idea would be to recreate the Roman Colosseum + Las Vegas in the middle of the sea. People would come, pay, bet in bitcoin to see what Romans did best when almost no rules were applied. The world court would have no jurisdiction. 

oh i didnt know we had a trillionare who wanted to make a sea stead. well that solves everything.

no but seriously of course its going to be hard. its going to be hard as hell. This would only be a lunching point obviously. We would need to move out into open waters once our numbers became great enough. People could start opening businesses and we could begin to have an economy. Once our numbers became great enough to move out into open seas than we could get everything we needed through trade. let entrepreneurs figure out how to provide us with the things we need from land.

either way this is never going to start with some ridiculously wealthy guy with a grand plan. the only way to make seasteads happen is for people to get out there and start living it now.
3895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 04:18:19 PM
Are we talking about spending part of the unclaimed 9million on this? or just some persons private stash?
3896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 04:11:14 PM
Is there a poll needed or can Cfb send it right away?

Pin

Let's send 250K and watch the result.

Are we talking about spending some of that unclaimed  9 million on marketing?

*edit* sorry i just woke up so im not sure whats going on
3897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT Ought to be Taken Seriously on: January 19, 2014, 05:23:59 AM
Personally,

the concept of Proof of Stake (POS) by NXT coin is interesting and different compare to Proof of Work (POW) used by Bitcoin.

I think during infancy stage, like Bitcoin, it would be beneficial and FAIR to everyone, especially miners to use POW concept.

Once reached a certain threshold, maybe 50%, 80% or 100%, then the concept of POS will be more relevant to sustained the network and miners.


Currently, in NXT coin the early stakeholders are hording all the coins and benefiting them only. There is very little volume and the TRUE value is not reflected as there is no liquidity in the system.

This is not a True and Fair concept of decentralized Crypto currency in the first place.

Hi tstang, I'd say volume is pretty good, given the very early (beta, in fact) stage Nxt is currently in. It will improve as more exchanges list it (Bter just added it today!) and as the clients and features mature.

Regarding true and fair decentralization, I think PoS offers more opportunity for decentralization because hardware costs are not a barrier to entry in supporting the network. And for distribution, things aren't as bad as you might think. Here are some more stats about Nxt distribution vs Bitcoin pulled from http://nxtcoin.blogspot.ca/2014/01/nxt-volume-history.html

Nxt
28.9% is owned by 0.07%
21.5% is owned by  0.14%  : 2x
24.8% is owned by  0.55%  : 7.9x
20.7% is owned by  99.76% : 1425x
vs:
Bitcoin
28.9%: 0.005%
21.5%: 0.087%  : 17.4x
24.8%: 0.98%    : 196x
20.7%: 98.928% : 19786x

Based on this I think things are looking very positive for Nxt.

Could Nxt have been initially launched with a better distribution? Probably, but it's far from terrible and getting better as more buyers enter the market. The community is very active, development is happening quickly, and support is growing. I think these will have more of an impact on Nxt's future than how ideal the initial launch was. These are also why it will be hard for a clone to compete with Nxt.

A simple question to your liquidity and market force on demand and supply.

Why it's NOT LISTED on TOP 3 Crypto exchanges ?

Please support the facts where you get the data for Bitcoin holders.

"Bitcoin
28.9%: 0.005%
21.5%: 0.087%  : 17.4x
24.8%: 0.98%    : 196x
20.7%: 98.928% : 19786x"

Bazinga


Another thing to think about. While you may have some instances of multiple individuals sharing a single address, it is probably much more common to have single individuals using multiple addresses. So that chart is probably skewed favorably.
3898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT Ought to be Taken Seriously on: January 19, 2014, 05:18:21 AM
you're a genius.
rofl man I wish.
3899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 19, 2014, 05:12:44 AM
second daily shameless advertisement: (doing 2 per day, hope you are ok with that 2Kool4Skewl)

please check out my orderbook/escrow here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuZ9UiDk97ajdFQtdHN2RElUQU10NjdqRUNkWm5uUlE

place some orders, leave some feedback. anything helps.
3900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NEX :: descendant of NXT on: January 19, 2014, 04:44:27 AM
word of advise: if you dont want this coin to be ruled by the give away thread spammers, weight the giveaways by activity * average_post_length. Then do a quick check of their post history to make sure they pass the turing test.

okay... I leave it to you to design a fair distribution.

If i do a ton of math to figure out how to weight it effectively for fair distribution (which i think i have a pretty good idea how to do) than i would need to know that there was some able programmer who was actually dedicated to keeping the code maintained.

You don't need a programmer for this.

All you need is the formula and a spreadsheet!



i know that. im saying that i dont want to do all of that work if this crypto is just going to die tomorrow. who is committed to maintaining it and what are their credentials?
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