I mined an entire 2.57 LTC, and it only took me 4 days :p

(as a side program, not 24/7)

would love any addition to the treasure pile:   LKam4cfHtVXXGxTmnMtHwUP4F8GLEGkSVD

have we been told what sort of input/outputs/display these may have? I wouldnt be suprised if they were modular, but so are a lot of FPGA rigs, so it wouldnt be very big news.

The image shows no connectivity options, thats where i think the surprise is. A small display on the front could make the units run practically as standalones.

Or, maybe theres some sweet led lighting and cold cathode tubes inside the case to make it glow/pulse to the speed of its hashing (also customisable to match the pace of music, if you decide to hold an ASIC PARTY!!!!!!

The thermodynamics is *technically* right, but a proper use of HVAC would need much less power to simply exhaust the heat

Probably. The avalon system apparently is going to run far cooler then expected, likely due to large fans and utilizing a form factor almost as big as the BFL shipping box. However, it would seem from posts that some of the space is occupied by a "radiator" and some sort of unrevealed secret

way too much scrutiny over the picture, considering it was released simply to appease the trolls for a FEW DAYS UNTIL THE FIRST UNITS ARRIVE, at which point the customers can take as many minutes or hours as they like to tear down the unit and photograph every component and release videos of it hashing, etc, etc

cool down till then, because if a photo is worth 1000 words, we hit that point a few pages back

Im out of here, you're just straight trolling at this point

another tip for the shipping speed debate: The faster they ship out 300 pre-paid units, the sooner they can start taking payments for more units.

it would seem silly for them to twiddle thier thumbs when the speed of delivering these units will determine how soon they can make more money/customers. (on the other side of the spectrum, BFL is still taking pre-orders)

ps: PLEASE dont turn my comment into a trollish BFL debate, this is an avalon thread for avalon devices and thats why im reading it.

Have you seen them advertise in BTC prices ANYWHERE? (i mean advertise, not tell you what the exchange rate is at time of purchase)

This debate is just stupid. If you wanted to return a $9.99 shirt to walmart, and the value of the USD had dropped 1% in the prior week, would you therefore demand they pay you back $10.09 (101%) of your purchase price? Get real.

my 2cents would be that its better form-factor or for cooling if the chip can be fed power from multiple lines where it is needed, rather then piping in through 2 lines and being forked within the chip to where power is consumed.

(Im not a hardware professional/manufacturer, thats just my logic for explaining the number of connections)

my other 2 conspiracy theories are:
1) more contacts simply help keep the chip sealed to the board better to prevent seperation in the case of thermal expansion/contraction or other physical abuse
2) some power connects are redundant in case errors or heat problems cause some pins to burn out or short. (though i dont think this is a very likely practise for mitigation of such an issue)

I would imagine that at this point avalon has stood by its product, to a level that they feel actions speak louder then words or pictures (see BFL thread if you think pics=proof). Im as curious as anyone, and itching to see the next batch open up for sale, but a review from an avalon recipient would mean far more then what an avalon rep could post.

Plus, these boards have so many trolls, avalon probably figures anything they post will be scrutinized and called out as a hoax based on an image. Wait 3-4 days for DHL to do its thing and the concrete proof will appear

the 2 most likely indicates an order placed in 2012. The next batch (placed in 2013) will likely have a "3" at the front

how'd i even get that far for you? According to my estimates, if the timer was still ticking to the negatives, it wouldnt have gone further than 15hrs at this time, not 25hrs+

I pay between 8.3 - 9.6 cents per kWh in my home, sounds like you need to find a cheaper location for your data center

if the imposisble is to announce numerous delays  and alienate others with cutting remarks such as 1990's tech, then yeah BFL has done quite a good job.


I dont have an order with any asic mfg. yet, but it looks like Avalon will be the first to market and the first choice customers. This far, they've shown the most definite shipping date, and even if they release a melting product on monday, it will still be leaps beyond the current state of Butterfly Labs' ASIC, which was supposed to be released In December.

Yes and No.

In my experience, if you put in the right amount of time and effort you can make good money on stocks. theres two main practises that are best used in combination based on your risk/reward:

DIVIDENDS (LONG TERM): These are the backbone of the market. stocks that pay dividends give you a small fraction of the share price every quarter (3 months). The best companies constantly work to improve these payouts to attract more shareholders. Most dividend stocks range from 0.5% to 5% per year, which alone beats a bank account's interest. Then you also have the fact that the stock itself can gain value. (generally, big dividend corps are very stable or growing, but not always)

      Examples:  Intel (ive gained 8% in the past 2 months, plus it has a 4.1% yearly dividend)
                  :  McDonalds (lost about 1% in the past 3 months, but pays ~3% yearly dividend)
                  : Carnival Cruise Lines (Gained 4% in last 3 months, also pasy about 3% a year in dividends)

SHORT TERM: These are stocks that are at a pivotal moment, or on a noticible growth pattern from a recent product demonstration or TV spot. Generally, these are purchased with the hopes of quicker, but riskier, gains. With good research of a company, you can make large profits from frequent buy/sell orders.

     Examples: RIM (within the past 3 months, this company has gained nearly 100% with the upcoming BB10 series, and IMO theres still space to gain another 10-20% in the next 2 months)
                 : MEDBOX Cannabis dispensing (This is a wildcard company that stole the spotlight following the US law changes, going from $2-$3 to $215, and then collapsed and rose again rapidly several times in the past 2 months)
                : AVT Inc. (AVTC) (This company recently shot from $1.50 to $6.50 upon its association with Medbox as a producer of the patented vending systems)


In my opinion, with the right tactics, and balancing long and short-term investments, you can easily make 5-15% per year on your investments. So if you want to live off the market, you really need to have >$500,000 to invest with.

is it in the same motherboard? if the processor is PHYSICALLY a different size, then you should be more concerned for the mobo then the heatsink that straps to the mobo

You dont give up? It was only about 3 days ago that you VERY PUBLICLY declared you would block or ignore inaba so that you wouldnt have to read his posts. Nonetheless, youre still swamping this thread with bickering and avalon advertisements.

ps: we get it: BFL is wayy behind target and has no prototype beyond some fancy cases and a huge copper heatsink (anyone know the reason that wasnt seen at CES booth btw?)

late to the party and you STILL chose a number that didnt win 

PuertoLibre, putting somebody on ignore because you hate thier posts doesnt mean you should read them in peoples quotes anyways for the sake of being able to return to an argument. You're the crazy person that says: "hey steve, can you tell THAT MORON to pass the salt"