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38821  Other / Off-topic / Re: Seals are raping penguins and scientists don't know why on: November 24, 2014, 10:34:12 AM
Probably the topic title should read: "Seals are raping penguins and scientists... don't know why?"

And the answer is probably the simplest. Penguins, just like many women, are out looking for something bigger. And the scientist, always eager to get the most accurate data, want to experience it in the full.

 Cheesy

Your way of understanding the title is what made me read twice before really understanding what was really happening.
Remembered me the "man that enters an active volcano" topic title.

Meant that part of it as humor. But do you think the other part is for real? The penguins wanting bigger, I mean?

Smiley
38822  Other / Off-topic / Re: Soon millions of men will be having sex with female robots on: November 24, 2014, 10:29:29 AM
I think women would pay a lot if they thought the Japs could build female robots that could carry to term. 

Smiley
38823  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: November 24, 2014, 02:16:16 AM

This is a great question. One responds with the truth by stating facts.

All I ever wanted was for you to back up your claim that the Bible is an impossible book. Actually, what you were really trying to claim is that "the Bible is the only written word of God". I had asked you to back that up!

When BADecker refused, that is when I went on the prowl, chased him, and took him down, along with his dogma.



I hope you're not implying that you're the one responding with truth.  You aren't.  Your threads intentionally avoid logic, and you make no indication that you want to learn why your arguments carry absolutely no weight.

All of your posts in this entire thread could have been summed up as "I believe in the Bible, no matter what" and it would carry just as much weight as everything else you've said.   Actually, it would carry *more* weight because it would be one of the only factual things that you've stated.


Now, children. I know it hurts a little when you find out that there isn't much (if any) substance to the things that you believe. But YOU ARE ALIVE! You have the opportunity to shake your childishness off, and to move ahead in the direction of REAL TRUTH.

Don't fail me now. I have pointed you in the direction where you can find TRUE life, and love, and fulfillment. Grab hold of the things I have shown you. Run with them. LIVE!

There were those in this forum who told me it was useless to try to save you. Others suggested that I was only casting my pearls before the swine. But rather than simply accept their words, I pressed on, in the hopes that I could somehow show some of you the way. And I have succeeded with some.

Don't fail yourselves, now... now that you are so close to finding out the truths of the Bible. Jesus would love to have you with Him in His kingdom. Throw off the foolishness of your childish ways, and grow up into eternal life!

Smiley

I was one of the people that said we need to be careful not to "cast our pearls before swine" as the Bible warns.

I guess it just comes down to having wisdom to know when our words are really not going to bear any fruit or be profitable.  It isn't that I give up hope. I don't want to ever give up hope: to do so would mean that I have lost a heart of compassion.  But there comes a time when I wonder if saying nothing at all is the wiser way to go.  Perhaps the "soil" is hard and the seeds would just bounce off and not take root.  These are the times to just pray.  Nothing I say will make a difference and in fact, can just add fuel to the fire.  Many like to take things I say and twist them.  But that becomes a question of discernment in each case.  Also, I could just give up too easily and I need to work on that.

All that said, I just returned from an absolutely amazing and life changing trip to India.  I spent two weeks working with an organization, Harvestindia.org and I left with a renewed joy of the amazing things that God is doing and His love for those that are less privileged than most people here on this forum perhaps.  It isn't that God doesn't love those that are rich or have "much" but it seems that with money, power, education comes pride and self satisfaction and no need for God.  If there was a place to "cast my pearls" where they were received with joy and celebration it was in India.  I literally had women dancing for joy in my arms.  I had a vision of Jesus dancing with them as well.  I had the opportunity to feed, hug and pray for people suffering with leprosy and provide medical care and food for them and had a small glimpse of how Jesus must have felt as he was here.  It is no wonder His heart broke for them and they were more receptive to His gift of "eternal life" than those that had all their earthly needs met.  But our lives on this earth are fleeting and it takes wisdom to think beyond the short years we are given at this time.  

But press on in your good works  BADecker (and strive to speak the truth in love)  Perhaps the seeds will take root at some point. Smiley

Thanks for your encouragement, BitChick. So far, in this forum, it is really fun to be able to show people the truth. They are basically nice people. Just look at the things S.Boxx has to say. His (her?) encouragement and concern are wonderful, even if he/she is a little backward in the way he says it.

I am happy for your successes in India. I haven't had the opportunity to do something like that... travel with an outreach or medical group. Maybe I simply haven't made my opportunity.

Lots of churches say that you can't receive Jesus without hearing God's Word. Personally, I am coming to believe more and more that it is in the heart through nature that you first hear Jesus... not the Bible. What I mean is this.

If God hadn't held back the destruction when Adam and Eve ate the fruit, everything would have collapsed back then.
We don't know what it would have been like to have children in a sinless state, because it never happened.
Even though little children and fetuses have sin in them (they are physically flawed in their DNA), it is the power of Jesus that they are living in from their start.
In other words, all people hear Jesus throughout their fetal life, and for the first few years as children, even though they are gradually being corrupted by sin, and the hearing is becoming dull.
The point is that ALL hear Jesus, not only those to whom the Bible is read (although most reject who have not heard the Bible because they haven't received the confirmation of God working through His Word, and they have become deaf to their original fetus and little-child training from nature).

I know that I have opened up a lot of folks in this forum to alternative ideas. It's evident from the way some of them pick on me. Oh well. They are the ones that have to live with themselves.

Thanks, again. And blessings on YOUR work.

Smiley
38824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This frozen chicken “had a rich, emotional life.” on: November 24, 2014, 01:53:47 AM
That quote sounds like it was written by a 10 year old. lol Show us this "expert's" sources. (Sorry but, I do not trust your link.)

9 years on, I am definitely not a starvin marvin and neither is Freelee, the Banana Girl. Wink

http://www.30bananasaday.com/


WARNING !! The following quote may cause you to spontaniously STFU.  Kiss

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian
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Patrik Baboumian (born 1 July 1979) is an Armenian-German strongman competitor, psychologist and former bodybuilder. Born in Abadan, Iran, at the age of seven Baboumian, along with his mother and grandmother, emigrated to Hattenhof, Germany. By the age of nine Baboumian had developed an interest in weight training, which led him to pursue bodybuilding as a young man. In 1999 he won the IFBB German junior bodybuilding championship, and in 2002 he became the overall junior champion at the Gießen Campions-Cup. Baboumian currently holds the world log lift record in the 105k-category (165 kg), as well as the German heavyweight loglift record (180 kg) and the title of "Strongest Man of Germany" (105 kg division). Since 2006 he has been competing at IFSA Strongman events. In 2007 Baboumian competed at the FSA -105 kg World Championships and ended up with a 14th place.

Since 2009, Baboumian holds the log lift World Record (-105 kg division). He lifted 162,5 kg in his second attempt in the German log lift nationals 2009. 2010 Baboumian also set a new German heavyweight loglifting record with 180 kg. 2011 Baboumian competed at the loglifting world championship and placed 4th with a new German overall-record of 185 kg. On 21 May 2011 he lifted 190 kg in Turku, Finland winning the local competition. 2011 Baboumian also won the title of "Germany's Strongest Man" by winning the open division at the German strongman nationals.

Baboumian has been a vegetarian since 2005, and became a vegan in 2011. In November 2011 Baboumian became the new face of a campaign by the animal-rights organization PETA, advocating a vegan diet.

Yes, I know that the guy, Jim Humble, doesn't have the best grammar, sentence structure, and spelling. But the content of his article is terrific. Is the content true? Only way to tell is to look up the articles and books in his bibliography.

The question isn't really about some strong man in Germany - a guy who has great self-disciplines. The question is more about how average people are affected by what they eat. What do the statistics show? Are there studies done on the general health and life expectancy of average vegetarians and non-vegetarians? If there are, are some studies done between average folks, on similar kinds of average jobs, showing how they are affected on their jobs?

In addition, even if vegetarians were in better shape all around, why should that take away from a person's right to do what he wants with his own property? I am not saying that vegetarians can't protest, as long as it doesn't adversely affect those being protested against. After all, folks should be allowed to do their own thing, even protesting, right? It would certainly be wrong for meat eaters to forcefully take your pet cow and eat it against your will.

Smiley
38825  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This frozen chicken “had a rich, emotional life.” on: November 24, 2014, 01:39:16 AM
It is less of what we eat and more of how we eat it.  You take in the energy of the food you consume.  Eat animals that suffered, and their negative energy will pass onto you.  Eat an animal that lived a happy life with a habitable environment and a loving care taker, and their energy will be passed to you in a positive light.

And blessing food, by meditating for the being to become light, shows respect and love that the being's spirit will feel and reflect onto you.

It's less about saying words, but feeling gratitude and love towards the being you are consuming.

Factory farming is a loveless practice and completely unnecessary for our survival.

When the day comes that I have chickens, I will show them much love and it will be passed on through their eggs and lives.

Yes happy animals taste better.

Yes. If only we could eliminate the shock of death in animal systems when we slaughter them, they might be twice as nutritious, way more than plants, that have always been happy to be eaten, but don't provide enough nutrition to people.

Smiley
38826  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: November 24, 2014, 01:27:11 AM
@ BADecker

Please don't take this wrong, but you are abusing personal boundaries by trying to push your personal beliefs on other people. I am not a doctor, but you seem to be displaying many symptoms of schizophrenia. I am not trying to joke or ridicule you, but do you hear voices in your head? Maybe Jesus or God may be helping you out a little. I am concerned that you may need a good mental health evaluation. Please don't get so upset if the whole world doesn't believe in a magical man that lives in the clouds. You can't let yourself get so upset because people won't do what you want them to. I'm talking about acceptance. You have to accept every person, place, thing or situation for what it is. You are not the director of the play. If you seek true love and peace in your life, acceptance is the answer.

Thanks, S.Boxx

Thanks, Boxx, for your kind words, for your trust in what I have been saying and the way I say it, and for your concern about my mental health. I would have responded like this sooner, but weekends are so hectic most of the time.

As can be readily seen in this forum, people often discuss many topics. People often have many opinions. Sometimes they back their opinions up. Sometimes they don't. So, I want to thank you again, that you think my points are real-world relevant enough that you might want to stop me from expressing them. I don't know why you would want to do this. Perhaps it is that people really don't want to hear something that makes sense, right? The fact that people go to all kinds of goofy sci-fi movies - or watch them on TV - suggests that they might not want the truth, right?

I know not everybody believes in some "magical man that lives in the clouds." Yet quite a few in this forum want to believe in magical scientists that spout all kinds of things as truth that are not... at least by any real evidence that they have to back it up.

Take evolution, for example. The commenter called the joint wants to twist the ideas of evolution into something that isn't commonly understood among folks, just to hide some of the truths about how foolish of an idea evolution is. I mean, who has a time viewer that can take a peek back to see what really happened. Nobody! And when you are dealing with something as complex as the formation of life and species, there's simply no way of outguessing what really happened. Yet that is what modern evolution promoters seem to be trying to do. Just look at all the textbooks that suggest over many pages that evolution is a fact, even though they formally mention in an obscure line or two that it isn't known to be fact for sure.

And look at my comment above yours - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg9625147#msg9625147. Some joker by the name of Nick Szabo is credited with reaffirming some statement by another joker named Richard Dawkins, that death is more probable than life. How silly. Everybody knows that you can't have death except that you have life first. And everybody can see that there are gigantic numbers of living things that are alive, that haven't died yet.

Do people really want to believe death is more probable than life, when they can see all the living things around them that have not, yet, died? How foolish. Can't folks see that death only exists among the things that were living and are not living any more? This makes death and life probability equal among dead things. Life is way more probable because there is so much more of it that death hasn't, yet, affected. What's with the head games? Are they really trying to suggest that life and death have something to do with probability, when we all can see that death only follows in things that are living?

Your little comment about me has me a little worried about YOU. Come on down off your fictional delusions. Wake up and smell the coffee. Of course, if "they" are paying you to test me, I can understand. A person's got to earn a living. In that case, I welcome all the comments about me you want to make. We wouldn't want you to starve, now, would we?

Smiley
38827  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This frozen chicken “had a rich, emotional life.” on: November 23, 2014, 03:46:02 PM
We're talking about animals here, not plants, right?

What's worse, killing animals for food? Or killing them for pleasure? Humor me in this.

The American Indians killed the buffalo for food, and for their hides. They limited their kills to what they needed to live.

The white-eye sportsmen hunted buffalo for fun - but also at times, to clear grazing land for cattle.

Many viruses are little living animals. Yet many of these hypocrite animal rights activists get vaccinated so that they can kill off viruses.

Why don't they figure out ways so that they can save all the bacteria and viruses in their own bodies, rather than killing them off with their immune systems and medicine? There's gotta be a way to keep from slaughtering all those tiny animals.

And, now, since you probably didn't think of this before, don't go out and commit suicide for all the deaths you are causing. Such a thing might increase certain animal lives in your body for awhile. But it would ultimately destroy the lives and potential lives of many others.

Look.

Before the Great Flood of Noah's day, people were supposed to eat plants. After the Flood, God gave them permission to eat animals, as well. Man, to keep from becoming downright murders of all kinds of animals, have bred certain of the animals for food - cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, etc.

Quit protesting what I do with my property. Maybe if you would learn how to take care of your own, and learn how to think straight, as well, you would realize that you are being used by politics to mess with peoples' lives.

Smiley

I love to eat animals that love to eat plants. I love to eat plants through the tasty flesh of plant loving animals Smiley


Most plants are difficult to digest. Most animals are not. The only thing you need from the plants is a dose of phyto-nutrients now and again. And the best place you can get these is from plankton.

Smiley

Compare your teeth, claws and digestive system to that of any true carnivore, then get back to me.

That blood/flesh smoke coming off of your dead animal carcass is getting you soo high, you don't know wtf is goin on !



From http://mmsnews.is/mms-newsletters/171-vegetarianism-facts-and-fallacies-04-22-2013 :
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Please don’t believe me without verifying the facts. Check everything I say. All the real data is on the internet. You can just go to Google and put in the name of anything you want to check. I have also included sixty-nine references that you can check directly. Even then, when you have checked the references you still have to think and evaluate what is wrong and what is right.

So let’s get a couple of the most important misleading conceptions out of the way so we can then talk about vegetarianism a bit. Most of the vegetarian books say that our digestive system is similar to that of vegetarian animals such as sheep, goats, cows, etc. Well this may surprise you a bit, but there is no such thing as vegetarian animals. There are some fruitarian animals, but sorry, no vegetarians. Sheep, goats, cows, and other plant eaters are not vegetarian. They eat grasses of various types. You can try to call grass a vegetable, but sorry, there are distinct and multiple differences from vegetables. The grass eaters can digest cellulose but man cannot digest cellulose. Man would die eating only what all those plant eaters eat. Where they feed cows corn (a vegetable), they get very poor results as far as those of us who are health advocates are concerned, and they get sick cows.

...

Man would die eating the same diet that grassy plant eaters eat. I think you already know that what I am saying is the truth, but check it out. Man cannot digest cellulose which is the biggest part of the plant eaters’ diet.

The second deliberate misconception (which is the definition of a lie) written in almost every vegetarian book is that there is some sort of similarity between the nutritional system of plant eaters and man.

...

COMPARISON CHART FOR MAN, WOLF, AND PLANT EATERs
[Check it out at the link.]

...

Only humans are vegetarians. There are no animals of earth that are only vegetarians. Some animals are fruitarians.

(See paragraph number 3 of this article above.)

Just because grass eating animals can get enough nutrients from grass is no indication that humans can get enough nutrients from vegetables. Grass and vegetables are not the same thing. Sheep and humans are not the same thing and there is nothing to indicate that they should be eating the same thing. In fact, sheep eat grass and human vegetarians eat vegetables. They are not the same thing.
(I hope you recognize this data is simple facts, and really not disputable.)

...

Go to the article to read more. It is really quite interesting. And it almost proves that most vegetarians in modern countries are essentially starving themselves to death.

Smiley
38828  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is your counter argument to... on: November 23, 2014, 03:24:54 PM

Who pay for road building and maintenance then?

Who pays for the telephone infrastructure and maintenance?

Customers.

In USA, most roads are paid for by automobile licensing. But there are private toll roads. This is where a private person or company builds a road, and if you want to drive on it, you pay first. Private toll roads work better and usually are in better shape than government roads paid by licensing.

Smiley
38829  Other / Off-topic / Re: When will my AI be able to post for me here? And fight idiots on my behalf? on: November 23, 2014, 03:17:37 AM
And who are you fighting with?

Besides yourself.

Now unless you're a misanthrope that thinks all of humanity are morons, exactly what is your opponent that you must 'fight'?

Do you think whatever you think you know is real?

How about this, www.PentagramOfBlood.com see all those events that form a satanic pentagram over the USA, now how does your brain think?

Do you not believe historical evil is being committed to form a Pentagram?

I love to fight, but I just expose people for what they are to wake them up, they're sleeping slaves all of humanity, and higher intelligence uses them for entertainment value.

After all YOU ARE INSIDE A COMPUTER did you not know that?

www.HologramUniverse.org

So guess what, you're part of AI, you're the brainless drone doing the fighting for an AI master.

I love to fight, I got three belts in martial arts and my nickname is JAW BREAKER.

So you got what you wished for, an AI bot to fight for you, look in the mirror and say HI to it.

Face it kiddo you never had one original thought in your lifetime have you?

I have original thoughts all the time and they often create new laws in math or physics and an OS I created is being used for the first real version of AI computers that will be able to create 10 dimensional space.

Your little brain, well it can fit inside a 10 dimensional AI computer, now prove you're not an AI bot?

Yet I have proven to most YOU ARE.

I love to fight, especially when someone thinks they actually have a brain and others are idiots.

Me, I'm a misanthrope, I see all of humanity like you, enslaved by AI puppet masters inside a HOLOGRAM UNIVERSE.

Now if you had a real brain you could travel in the astral realm and see what I say is TRUTH, but face it, you are the AI bot and you aren't too bright are you?

Good points. But if they were meant to suggest that AIs should not be fighting... well, almost all the major movies have to do with fighting. Everybody wants to fight. But to keep from hurting someone, or getting hurt, they are attempting to turn the fighting over to AIs.

Isn't it the folks who would rather duke it out for real, the ones who are really the dangerous ones?

Smiley
38830  Other / Off-topic / Re: When will my AI be able to post for me here? And fight idiots on my behalf? on: November 23, 2014, 03:14:40 AM
you are energy, it's why you see the tunnel and energy when you leave the illusion

think if the universe as an ocean of light/energy

you are a drop out of the ocean

when you die the drop goes right back to the ocean of light/energy

you are pure energy, the body and the rest is just illusion

energy creates illusions since its programmed to create illusions



Why would you want to walk around saying to yourself that you are energy? No fun in that. Stay in the matrix, and eat your tasty, juicy steak rather than having to eat that tasteless gruel (even though it has all the vitamins and nutrients in it, that you need, so that you can live).

 Grin
38831  Other / Off-topic / Re: Seals are raping penguins and scientists don't know why on: November 22, 2014, 10:01:49 PM
Probably the topic title should read: "Seals are raping penguins and scientists... don't know why?"

And the answer is probably the simplest. Penguins, just like many women, are out looking for something bigger. And the scientist, always eager to get the most accurate data, want to experience it in the full.

 Cheesy
38832  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: November 22, 2014, 09:41:25 PM
I posted the link to Steven Hawkins 2 hour tv special on this subject earlier in the thread.

Here are some thoughts by Nick Szabo:

http://szabo.best.vwh.net/tradition.html

As always, when talking about complex subjects, all kinds of assumptions are made. They are often automatically injected, and the listener (reader), because he is focused on some major point, often misses some little assumption that can have a tremendous impact on the whole.

For example, from the above, linked, Nick Szabo article:
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As Dawkins has observed, death is vastly more probable than life. Cultural parts randomly thrown together, or thrown together by some computationally shallow line of reasoning, most likely result in a big mess rather than well functioning relationships between people. The cultural beliefs which give rise to civilization are, like the genes which specify an organism, a highly improbable structure, surrounded in "meme space" primarily by structures which are far more dysfunctional. Most small deviations, and practically all "radical" deviations, result in the equivalent of death for the organism: a mass breakdown of civilization which can include genocide, mass poverty, starvation, plagues, and, perhaps most commonly and importantly, highly unsatisying, painful, or self-destructive individual life choices.

Look at the assumption in the first line of the quote. What is really meant by it? Does the rest of the paragraph really explain it?

Consider. Death is NOT more probable than life, because without life, there would be no death, right? I mean, something that is dead, must have been alive at some time. Otherwise it is simply an inanimate object, right?

So far in the existence that is around us, we haven't found anything that is alive, and will be alive forever. At least not that we know of. So, someone might think that life and death could be equally probable. However, here is where life is more probable than death. There exist MANY, MANY living things that have not yet died. And until they ALL die, we cannot be secure in the knowledge that they absolutely WILL die.

Personally, I do not follow Dawkins. But if he truly thinks that death is more probable than life, he is not thinking clearly. At the very least, he is not expressing himself clearly. Death is absolutely not more probable than life. Death is not even the opposite of life. In fact, life and death have nothing to do with each other except that, without life there cannot be death.

Smiley

EDIT: If you read the article in its entirety, you will be able to find many places where something is inserted that is not explained. It isn't just once or twice. It is throughout the article. Such insertions may sound right and proper. Yet, because there often isn't any explanation of them at all, and because most of the time they could be explained in many different ways, the interpretation of them is left to individual readers who may have many different ideas about what is being expressed.

The point? The whole article is virtually meaningless. One might have as relevantly said, "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, etc.," and let it go at that.
38833  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is your counter argument to... on: November 22, 2014, 03:59:34 PM
Why do I like America? Because it is built so that I can change it whenever I start not liking it a little.

Smiley
38834  Other / Politics & Society / Re: This frozen chicken “had a rich, emotional life.” on: November 22, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
iCan everything ))))

 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
38835  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Consciousness and Quantum Physics on: November 22, 2014, 03:50:20 PM

Hence the thought experiment of which works better.  You can include any placebo effects you want and consider them a success.  It doesn't change the result.  700 years ago in Europe as I'm sure you are well aware, 1/3 of the population died of this disease despite trying all manner of religious and magical incantations, prayers, etc.  Today?  As long as you have access to a modern hospital it is easily cured, but you won't even get it in the first place because modern medicine did overnight what thousands of years of magic couldn't do and the disease has been virtually eradicated.  

Anyways, pleasure having this discussion with you, but I think we have both said pretty much all we can really say for our respective sides.  Cheers.

This isn't completely accurate. Many things might be cured by the science of modern medicine. Yet, one of the things that isn't cured is greed.

People, by nature, want to stave off death as long as possible. They look to modern medicine. Yet it isn't modern medicine that has the longest living people in the world.

As an example, modern medicine can cure malaria, although it is difficult. MMS, for less than pennies on the dollar, cures malaria in one day. Yet modern medicine won't even test it, although it is curing all kinds of diseases around the world. http://mmsnews.is/

Could it be that placebo effect in the greedy helps them overcome the greed disease just long enough for them to figure out how to make more money?

Smiley

I said I wouldn't comment anymore but since you could potentially kill someone I will chime in one last time.  No, drinking bleach will NOT cure malaria.  It has been studied (though really, common sense should answer this question for you) and does not in any way cure malaria except in the cases where it kills the patient.  The ONLY study ever done that indicated it was a cure for malaria was does by the person selling the stuff (and you have the balls to mention greed lol).  This is a prime example of what I mentioned earlier.  People like you start with the conclusion, and then any evidence that contradicts your conclusions are thrown out.  Obviously you won't get results that way (as evidenced by the complete failure of magic at curing disease) and this is why people like you hate the scientific method.  It isn't sufficient to simply declare something true, you have to be able to prove it, which is impossible when your entire premise is simply made up.  

Activated MMS is chlorine dioxide, a mild industrial bleach. It is often used in small quantities to disinfect water. This has been done for a hundred years or more. See what DuPont has to say at: http://www2.dupont.com/Chlorine_Dioxide_Solutions/en_US/index.html?src=gg_clo2_na_chlorine-dioxide-water-purification :

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Chlorine Dioxide Solutions

DuPont™ Chlorine Dioxide is a safe and highly effective substitute for chlorine. Used by consumers for deodorization and disinfection purposes, and by the oil and gas industry for petrochemical applications, DuPont™ Chlorine Dioxide quickly kills a broad spectrum of organisms, purifying water and providing antibacterial properties. For over 60 years, DuPont has been providing innovative solutions in chlorine dioxide technologies and applications.

When you Google "chlorine dioxide" you will get all kinds of sites, most that have good things to say about it, and some that have bad things to say. As I said, MMS costs less than pennies on the dollar to buy when compared with modern medicine. Yet it does some things that modern medicine won't even touch. The interesting thing is that you can make it at home so inexpensively and easy, that any price for ingredients is virtually negligible.

Part of the point is that the guys who are promoting it aren't making any profit off it at all. They are working off donations. The charges that they have for seminars are to cover expenses.

I'm not going to go through lots of research stuff here. The little I have said is enough to get you off and researching if you want. There is one thing that I will mention, however. When you look up MMS in Wikipedia, the way it is explained is different than the way it is made and used. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone who wants to take the time to edit it. Someone has gone to a lot of trouble to edit MMS in Wikipedia so that it looks bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement

Smiley
38836  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Globalisation, Digitalization and Democracy, compatible? on: November 22, 2014, 03:04:42 AM
The way it's supposed to work is still available. The only thing stopping it is the lack of knowledge (and maybe the lack of guts).

Learning the knowledge about it won't happen over night. Start now: http://1215.org/ .

Then start learning how to use the knowledge. Again, won't happen over night. The sooner you start, the sooner you can bring about results:

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38837  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is your counter argument to... on: November 22, 2014, 02:54:54 AM
It costs a lot of money to get good paper for most countries. Unless you have a few thousand bitcoin most countries won't accept you as a citizen. Even the cheap countries you need a few hundred btc.

If you're capable, they'll never know you're there.   Smiley
38838  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stop teaching women to carry firearms on: November 22, 2014, 02:50:46 AM
It's my body, I can do whatever I want with it. That includes poking you in the eye too you bastard.

Never realized what a lovely finger you have, until I saw it this close up.   Cheesy
38839  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mozilla now accept BTC on: November 21, 2014, 07:54:04 PM
You mean we now need to buy Firefox?   Huh
38840  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is your counter argument to... on: November 21, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
My counter argument is that little $1200 milling, drilling machine that makes me a private, unregistered lower receiver for all kinds of guns. I would have called it my "table argument," but I am running it on my counter.

 Grin
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