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38861  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does torture work? on: December 17, 2014, 12:22:33 PM
I'm British you halfwit and I'm white.

And im danish and im white.

Cunt.

Hey, do you think Claire Danes is Danish?   Cheesy

Wow.. Such joke.. Much fun...

I have no idea who that is.

Say, do you have Internet?  Smiley
38862  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does torture work? on: December 17, 2014, 12:19:37 PM
I'm British you halfwit and I'm white.

And im danish and im white.

Cunt.

Hey, do you think Claire Danes is Danish?   Cheesy
38863  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does torture work? on: December 17, 2014, 12:17:31 PM
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Dont meet me on the street with an ISIS flag in your hand unless you are burning it.
Or else you are gonna have a bad fucking time.

You're definitely a psychopath, I'm an Anarchist and I won't be ruled over by people who insist on dragging me into their conflicts and wars because they're so bloodthirsty they 'have' to have revenge on somebody who killed someone close to them.

If you want to go around massacring people or torturing them to make yourself feel better that's fine, but I'll be sitting here waiting for you all to kill yourselves off so I can live in peace with the other more sane human beings.

Actually, that's what government is really for. Get all the warriors into government so that they can kill each other off (since that's why they are warriors), and take government down at the same time BY killing each other off.

Smiley
38864  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We should develop a world government to make the world a much better place on: December 17, 2014, 11:07:20 AM
Government should be based on one foundational thing... total freedom for everyone except if he harms someone, damages someone else's property, or breaks a contract. The only other thing might be real threats, and this should be determined in great detail and clarity. For example, you wouldn't want your nutty neighbor building a working atomic bomb in his garage. That's a real threat. But even that should be regulated in such a way that gives the guy the absolute most freedom possible.

What is this all based on? It is based on this... AND THIS IS MOST IMPORTANT. Who can you trust to enforce laws in such a way that he will never trample on your freedom while enforcing the laws? Can you trust politicians, law-makers, law enforcement?

Let's get back to the basics, since we can't even trust the "good guys." Freedom for everyone, but proper punishment (up to and including execution) for all those who harm or damage someone else. That's it.

One other thing. Government should be required to emphatically warn people about all the ways that they might harm someone or damage his property. For example. Speed limit signs are just warning signs, but they hold strict and terrible punishment for anyone who harms another while speeding.

Smiley
38865  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does torture work? on: December 17, 2014, 10:41:11 AM
Torture works...if you are the one torturing and enjoy it. Or if you give the orders and somehow feel proud that you are helping your country.

It's all about helping people feel good right?

Its about punishing the bastard who killed innocent people.

Woman, children and elders who are not able to defend themselfs.



You seem to know that everyone in Guantanamo is a murderer... I wonder how you come to this conclusion?

These guys didn't even get a process, the weren't prosecuted. But hey, they're all terorists so it's OK... Yes, many of them are, and they should spend their life in jail.
But of course the CIA is always right and doesn't kidnap and torture innocent guys.  Roll Eyes

Jeez I get spasms when reading this thread.

Read my post, two posts up.  Smiley
38866  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does torture work? on: December 17, 2014, 10:37:16 AM
While torture doesn't work all of the time, it works most of the time. Here is part of the way it works, especially at places like Guantanamo.

Often you don't know if the person you are torturing knows anything or not. Maybe he doesn't know even the least bit about the things you are questioning him of. He is still useful for you. Here's how.

Your political masters - the people who are your bosses - want confessions along certain lines. They don't care if the confessions are the truth or not. They simply want the confessions in a certain way so that they can use them for political purposes - to propagandize the "free" people.

Over the decades, psychologists have figured out ways for you, the torturer, to ask questions of your torturees, to elicit the answer you want to hear from them, in the way you want to hear it. In other words, you want to ask them questions in such a way that makes it look like you are asking them legitimate questions. What you are really doing is feeding them the answers that you want them to "confess" to so that you get a confession that you can use as propaganda, whether or not the particular torturee has any knowledge of what is going on regarding the thing that you are questioning him about.

This is part of the reason why the Guantanamo prisoners have been kept for so long. They have been going through classes - torture classes - that have turned them into good subjects out of whom the torturers can get the confessions that they want to hear, to use for propaganda purposes. The training takes a long time. Some torturees die from it. But it has to look real. So, when you get a batch of torturees trained, you don't want to let them go unless you absolutely have to.

In the event you don't think this is true, just consider the police, especially in big cities. You have probably heard the term "good cop, bad cop." That's where two cops get on your case. The bad cop accuses you (to induce fear into you) while the good cop sticks up for you (to make it look like he is your buddy, helping you). What they are both doing is trying to elicit the confession that they want to hear out of you.

This cop thing is torture. It is a mild form of Guantanamo. If the laws weren't so strict with regard to using torture on U.S. citizens, the cops wouldn't have to resort to such complex tactics. They would simply go and beat it out of you... whatever they wanted to hear... truth or not. They often do this right now. I bet there are some forum contributors who have had this experience.

So, yes. Torture works. But very often it isn't being used for the purposes that the general public thinks. Rather, it is being used to propagandize and manipulate the public through false confessions that look real.

Smiley
38867  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cops immediately shot a 12 year old holding a toy gun without warning. on: December 17, 2014, 10:08:55 AM
IMO if a private citizen has shot the kid instead of a police officer the private citizen would not have been charged


This is rich.
The police can get away with murder; an ordinary citizen will have his ass fried.

The really funny part about all this is, there are loads of average citizens (you can find some of them commenting right in this thread) who think that the cops were justified. They simply can't get it through their thick skulls that allowing and condoning this kind of activity by cops is going come down and bite them in the near future. And, that near future just might be way closer than anyone thinks, considering the way the Federal Government has been arming the police, lately, with all kinds of WAR gear.

Smiley
38868  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Illinois Just Made it a Felony for Its Citizens to Record the Police on: December 17, 2014, 09:49:01 AM
First, change your Illinois and U.S. citizenship and residency to domicile. Do it by Notice recorded with your county recorder, and by 3 weeks ad in your local newspaper. Attach notes of the change to all your paperwork that has you listed as citizen or resident.

Get a buddy of yours to do the same. Should be a different State.

Then, write up an agreement or contract between you and your buddy that you require each other to photograph local governmental officials every time you have the opportunity.

If you are called to account by local authorities, use Karl Lentz's methods to sue them (their bond) for wrongful activity on your property (your camera and your body are your property) while carrying out duties outlined in a contract. Start studying so that you know how to sue http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html.

Consider the U.S. Constitution, Article 1, Section 1, Clause 1:
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No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
Translation for our purposes:
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No State shall ... pass any ... Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts ... .

Karl thinks his methods are a fun way to make money off government.

If you are really into the idea of straightening government and the banks out, check this: http://www.abodia.com/ucc/ . Karl doesn't waste his time on this, but it might be worthwhile for you until a time comes that you have the guts and know how to stand up and be a tough guy/gal, man/woman in court the way Karl does.

The judges (technically, magistrates) and U.S. marshals love him.

Smiley
38869  Other / Off-topic / Re: mutually inducing electromagnetic generators on: December 17, 2014, 09:23:18 AM
How hard did you hit your head on that wall?

I'm betting hard enough so that researchers should be looking in the wall for all that info.

 Cheesy
38870  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China again ...This time they did not ban bitcoin !!! on: December 16, 2014, 03:55:09 PM
Even though China is the place where almost all the computer components are made, some of these components will bypass their security to the Chinese people. This means that sooner or later the Chinese people will rule, because they can use bitcoins to pay for guns.

Smiley

What r u actually trying to say... seriously !!!

Even though China is the place where almost all the computer components are made, some of these components will bypass their security to the Chinese people. This means that sooner or later the Chinese people will rule, because they can use bitcoins to pay for guns.

Smiley

EDIT: भले ही चीन जगह है जहाँ लगभग सभी कंप्यूटर घटकों किया जाता है, इन घटकों में से कुछ चीनी लोगों को उनकी सुरक्षा बाईपास होगा। क्योंकि वे bitcoins बंदूकों के लिए भुगतान करने के लिए उपयोग कर सकते हैं इसका मतलब यह है जितनी जल्दी या बाद में चीनी लोगों पर राज करेंगे कि।
38871  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China again ...This time they did not ban bitcoin !!! on: December 16, 2014, 03:26:38 PM
Even though China is the place where almost all the computer components are made, some of these components will bypass their security to the Chinese people. This means that sooner or later the Chinese people will rule, because they can use bitcoins to pay for guns.

Smiley
38872  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cops immediately shot a 12 year old holding a toy gun without warning. on: December 16, 2014, 03:36:17 AM
You cannot legitimately claim self defense if you start an encounter by violating civil rights under color of authority and implicit threat of death or great bodily harm. It's like charging your innocent victim with assault for bleeding on you as you tried to beat them to death - something only LEOs have ever been able to do without any real consequences.
Neither this incident nor the Michael Brown incident has anything to do with the police violating anyone's rights. In this case the police were called because someone was waiving what appeared to be a gun around. The child was acting in a threatening way. IMO if a private citizen has shot the kid instead of a police officer the private citizen would not have been charged

People like TBZ have a preexisting anti-police agenda, which they spew the moment an opportunity arises, even/especially if created by a tragedy like the death of a child.  That's why such people are called "cranks."

The trenchcoat wearing Infowars kids make the rest of the liberty movement look bad, which is part of the reason they are encouraged by TPTB.

We should be protesting not because of dead thugs like Brown, but rather over events like this:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/cops-kill-georgia-grandpa-in-no-knock-raid-triggered-by-burglary-suspects-tip/
I am no fan of law enforcement, however you need to use the rule of law, just like they do. IMO law enforcement needs to be held to certain standards, but I don't think this is an example of them acting improperly

Yeah. Rule of law until they get the wrong address, knock your door down, and shoot your buddy dead who you were playing cards with, because they though the royal flush he was holding was a threat to their safety.

Smiley
38873  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 16, 2014, 03:25:33 AM

How can you claim knowledge when you have not even read God's WORD?

We have a different understanding of what the Word of God is. I say it is the effective application of the Bible. You say it is something else.

Okay, we have a disagreement.

I have shown in previous posts that the Bible is an impossible to exist book. I have briefly shown the reasons why. Since it exists supernaturally, it is the Word of God, and is enough for me for salvation and for righteous living.

I hope that you are finding happiness and joy in your book.

Smiley
38874  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 16, 2014, 03:15:01 AM
They don't have any clue how things got to this point of complexity.

Neither do you, BADecker, have any clue that truth could be found outside of your Bible.

That realization is simply too complex for you to fathom.

3. God's WORD is spoken by God and recorded by God's scribe. Bible is written and re-written by men.
8. How exactly will you find the whole truth in mainstream books like the Bible? Most of that book is written by a Pharisee. Don't forget that SATAN is ruler of this world, and obviously his message has spread far and wide.

It is only by 'integrating' such diverse bodies of knowledge that the vision of a unity of truth is gained.

God says "read it ALL and discern in wisdom of knowledge".

How can you claim knowledge when you have not even read God's WORD?

God has no mysticism nor hidden agenda—God is open and the only “mystery” is that which you simply do not yet understand—that too, He gives unto you openly and freely.

God always enjoins you to study ALL that you have basis for recognizing Truth and GIVE YOUR POWER TO NO MAN NOR ENTITY FOR GOD DWELLS WITHIN THE TEMPLE WHICH IS YOU.

If you know not history, then you are destined to repeat the errors.

God never limits your investigation into all facets of the Truth—does your “minister”?

Scientists are attempting to find the whole truth of everything. They will never be able to. The universe is too complex. Man was never meant to know the whole truth. At least not in this life.

The Bible is the record of the things that count. These are salvation for the next life, and the methods to live a reasonable life in this life.

People all over the place look for and find knowledge that is not in the Bible. There is nothing wrong with this. However, if the seeking and finding of that knowledge takes away from their salvation, it is not good. There are some people who seek knowledge and the whole truth with such determination that it ultimately blocks them from salvation.

Not only does God dwell within people, holding them alive, but He also has an identity of His own that is outside of people. You and I might be in each others minds somewhat through our posts here, but we certainly are not the same person.

Smiley
38875  Other / Off-topic / Re: The Origin of Cellular Life on Earth on: December 16, 2014, 03:06:54 AM
ok Ill bite.

Sounds strange, doesn't it, that a Christian would like to see a plausible evolution process?

Ever heard of antibiotics and bacteria getting increasingly resistant to it?  
Ever seen a dog?
There is evolution for you. Back to ignore you go.

When a person writes a book, almost never is the first draft also the only and final draft. Usually he rewrites it several times until it gets to the point that it is acceptable to him. This is a form of evolution.

God built into nature extremely complex, sensitive methods for plants and animals to change (evolve) so that they can be protected as a species. There is no evidence for evolution as the method that produced life from inanimate objects. The supposed evidence can ALL be shown to exist for other purposes, or it is a total lab environment fabrication.

One of the strongest evidences for this is cause and effect. There is no pure random. Random and probability are inventions of man for determining certain cause and effect actions that man is too ignorant and unable to determine by observation alone. Since the thought of man is cause and effect operated, consider the complexity of a universe that could produce such powerful cause and effect as this. Whatever the Great First Cause is, it is God Almighty, beyond understanding.

Smiley
38876  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 15, 2014, 03:15:23 PM
If anyone wants to see just how far along science is in finding out about evolution, all you need to do is look at these 3 videos provided by https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880732.msg9715659#msg9715659 :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqPGOhXoprU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ5jh33OiOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfq5-i8xoIU

Note in the videos that as much as 50% of the videos contain words to the effect of, we don't know, we aren't sure, maybe, if, etc. Why isn't science sure about much? Because the universe and life are so complex that scientists are simply scratching the surface about how things work. They don't have any clue how things got to this point of complexity.

The complexity of the universe is not proof that God exists, but along with cause and effect, and the spiritual nature of almost all people on Earth, God is way more of a viable reason why things exist, than anything else we can come up with.

Smiley

EDIT: Read this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=880732.msg9723441#msg9723441 .
38877  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 15, 2014, 02:55:19 PM
Hell and Heaven are the two famous words which are related to mythology and in some way or the other are related to god's existence.


According to legend, in 1989 a team of Russian scientists who were operating under the direction of Dr. Azzacove drilled a hole that was nine miles deep in an unnamed place in Siberia before breaking through into a cavity. Intrigued by this unexpected discovery, they lowered an extremely heat tolerant microphone, along with other sensory equipment, into the well. They listened and recorded (purportedly) the tormented screams of desperate people. The second surprise was the high temperature that they discovered at the earth's center, which was over 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. The conclusion was that they had opened a hole into Hell.
Thus, the existence of hell was scientifically proved.



I thought we already discussed that in here, and found that it was a prank, ot at least, disproven.

Smiley
38878  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Government confiscation on: December 15, 2014, 11:17:14 AM
Paranoid is the new sensible Cheesy

Yes, but, think of what things will be like when they go a little further and schizophrenia is the new sensible.   Cheesy
38879  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How would world politics change if everyone on earth became immortal? on: December 15, 2014, 11:08:55 AM
Or all of these people who are very wise and continue to gain intelligence will make it a whole heck of a lot easier to start living on other planets, travel throughout space, go to other solar systems/galaxies.

People adapt. Look at the major cities. They are able to handle millions of people. There is a lot of empty space on this world and other worlds. Plenty of room to grow.

Exactly.

There are about 3,794,083 square miles (including water) in the U.S. If there are 330,000,000 people in the U.S., you could take all the people, place the whole population into 3-story high, 2000 square ft. apartments, with 4 people to the apartment, and situate the apartments on 6000 square miles of land, with 2/3s of each square mile used for parks, roads, even garden plots. The food and industry would have to be done on the rest of the over 3.5 million square miles, but there would be plenty of room for that.

Now, I am not suggesting to do something like this. But it could be done, using up only a tiny fraction of the land in the States.

The point is, there is so much land out there, that people don't realize what land is really like in the States (world).

Other countries are not the same. Consider Japan, with way more people per square mile, or Siberia with almost nobody per square mile. The earth is gigantic compared with the number of people.

As a side-thought, think about all the people in the big cities that don't realize this. Seems to me that government and big business are "herding" the people into the big cities so that they have the land to themselves.

Smiley
38880  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cops immediately shot a 12 year old holding a toy gun without warning. on: December 15, 2014, 10:49:17 AM
This whole incident is one of the latest efforts of politicians for disarming the nation.

Consider. Are you going to let your children - children who you love - go to the park and play cops and robbers, or cowboys and Indians anymore? No. You fear for their lives.

What is the result? Fewer toy guns among the kids... even if the States don't individually get rid of toy guns by law.

The politicians who don't restrain the police are pushing the anti-gun laws by making the people afraid for their lives... and now their kids' lives.

If the people want to retain the strength of guns to protect themselves from government, they will have to start suing murderous police, person to person, man to man, bypassing their police office. The more the police are sued for all kinds of infractions, man to man, the more the politicians will lose money (the police bond is often financed by the city). The more they lose money, the more they will finally reign in the police.

You hear, now and again, about police in an area or two who are disciplined for actions like this, even to the point of prison. This is only a deception, a camouflage, so that people think that something is being corrected among the police. Don't be deceived. Such corrections are few and far between. It is only getting worse. Cops are only getting worse. And city councils are only finding more deceptive ways to get cops to be worse, all the while promoting more and more enslavement of the people.

Think of all the military weaponry and armament government is selling to local police departments.

Smiley
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