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38881  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How would world politics change if everyone on earth became immortal? on: December 15, 2014, 10:32:23 AM
If this included a method so that politicians could not kill or dismember in war or by other means, at least not in such a way that could keep people from regenerating, politicians and the SuperRich would turn their energies from war to finding a way to practically leave earth and colonize other planets.

If the eternal life only included a natural immortality, but people could still die in war or by mass destruction, then politicians and the SuperRich would do everything they could to increase wars around the world, while, at the same time promoting a practical colonization of space.

The space thing would be only so that they (politicians and the SuperRich) could get away, provided they couldn't find a way to ship people off planet in droves.

Politicians are people. People become politicians. If people lived endlessly in reasonable health, somewhere along the line all people would gain enough political understanding so that they would understand the things that politicians were doing. Because of this, politicians and the SuperRich would need to be careful in the ways that they attempted to do what they were attempting to do... manipulate the people.

Again, if people remained in reasonable health, everyone might retain a good portion of the memory of things that he had learned. People who moved into science realms would have a lot longer to learn more and to formulate new theories and ideas. Science might advance rapidly. The idea of space, galaxy, and intergalactic colonization might not take as long as it would otherwise.

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38882  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: man sentenced to 4 years for illegal bitcoin operation on: December 14, 2014, 03:30:40 AM
Almost every win for the courts, where the person is accused by a governmental agency, is essentially a win because the person placed himself in that losing position.

The reason is that a defendant can demand to face his accuser. They agency can't come forward and be questioned on the stand. The agency can't swear or affirm anything. Why not? Because the agency is words on paper, and doesn't have a mouth, or a body to take the stand with.

In addition, there hast to be damage or harm done to the agency that can be proven to have been done by the defendant. The agency can't feel pain. The agency can't really express any damage done to it. The closest is a violation of a contract.

In addition, the defendant can counter-claim-sue. His counterclaim has to be answered before that agency can go forward with its case. His claim should be done by himself, as a man, requiring the damaged man present himself so that he can repay him for the damages. If a damaged or harmed man does not come forward, he wins the whole thing. If some human comes forward with a claim of harm of damage, then they go the next step.

This never happened in this case. The guy got scared and made a deal. He hanged himself, essentially.

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38883  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 13, 2014, 02:33:55 AM
Atheism is a religion. It is a religion of hate for God.
Atheists don't hate god. They simply just don't believe he exists.
I don't believe in Santa Claus, by your logic I also hate him.

Wrong. Rather, there aren't any true atheists. Why? Because everybody knows in his heart that God exists. Why? Because the Spirit of God is in the heart of everybody, holding every person alive. All know Him instinctively - "no atheists in the foxholes." Extreme joy, or extreme fear or pain in the life of anyone, shows him/her that he/she believes in God.

Those who claim that God doesn't exist are liars. Because of this, essentially there aren't any atheists. Those liars who adamantly claim they are atheists, do so because they think that their claims will make Him go away. They hate Him.

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I don't believe anyone can be 100% atheist, as there will always be that little bit of doubt however small.

But....

I also don't believe anyone can be 100% religious, as there will always be that little bit of doubt however small.

What does "100% religious" mean? If you mean like I said, that atheists are liars, this is a statement that they are not 100% believers in their religion.

As in 100% belief in whatever god they believe in exists. There will always be that little bit of doubt that their god might not exist.
Just because you don't want to hear what the atheists have to say, doesn't mean they are lying. Their views are just as valid as yours. This is a rather childish if you ask me.

Why do you think I don't want to hear atheists, at least somewhat? I read what they have to say, here. Others just hit "Ignore."

Everyone, as a person, is just as valid as any other person. This means that they have a right to hold their views as being valid. It does not mean that the views themselves are valid.


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Interesting isn't it when your highly suspect lies spaw out such as "believe in god or you'll burn", you gloss over those little gems. Interesting.

Yes, my beliefs. You have the right to consider them to be lies.


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It works both ways you see.

Your comments suggest to me, that the possibility of god not existing is terrifying to you. Why is that? The only hate I am picking up on is your hate of those that have a different opinion to yourself.

A blind man is walking along on a bridge, tapping away with his cane. Suddenly his cane taps on emptiness. He doesn't realize that he took a wrong turn somewhere in his crossing of the bridge, and he is now standing at the edge of the chasm below. No fear, because he doesn't realize.

A man that can see, standing at the same spot, might be wetting his pants out of fear.

That isn't hate. It is the fear of a seeing harm come to a blind person, actuated by empathy. If the blind man doesn't heed the lack of tap from his cane, or doesn't heed the warning call of the seeing person...

Well, you get the picture.

However, in addition to the above allegory, when people sincerely move in the direction of believing in God, God appreciates that. He is a merciful God. He definitely would turn from His anger about people denying Him, to giving them special blessings for turning to Him. Blessings that come to the nation, come also to me a little.

Selfish, ain't I?

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LOL, can't help but chuckle when believers claim to be "saving" non-believers. Let me tell you the real reason people come knocking on your front door to "save" the occupier from their sins.

Yes, this is something that believers can't do. Only God can save anybody. Why? Because no believer can keep even himself from dying. Only God who created life in the first place has the power to raise people from the dead.


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Think of a drug addict going to a few parties one night.
At the first party, out of the 10 people attending he's the only one doing drugs. He feels awkward as everyone else is enjoying their drug free night. He feel isolated, doesn't fit in with the crowd. Starts questioning if he should be doing the drugs or not. Quickley leaves.
At the next party everyone is on drugs. Much better. Feels confident now everyone is "on his side". Doing drugs was the right choice because everyone else is doing it right!

Same thing with religion. The more people they can "get on their side" the better. Proves they are right, because everyone else is believing. Better in a crowd. Safety in numbers. More the merrier. I know, let's go out and get more members to make us stronger.

It is true that "birds of a feather flock together" and "there is strength in numbers." It is also true that most people of any religion don't have logical reasons for the basic points in their religions, like why they believe in God, or why they don't believe in God.


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Let's make one thing quite clear ladies and gentlemen. They are certainly not trying to save anybody apart from themselves.

The point isn't saving anyone. With regard to life, nobody can save anybody else except temporarily - doctors and hospitals do this temporary saving quite often. The people they save still get old and die sometime.

The thing that is being done is, ideas are being scattered out among the unsaved so that they might consider their options for being saved.


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Selfish, ain't I?
Yes. See above.


Your comments suggest to me, that the possibility of god not existing is terrifying to you. Why is that?
You didn't answer this question.


I don't know why my comments suggest such things to you. I am working on finding out. I am guessing that you have fewer answers than I do. And until your answers satisfy you and make you comfortable, you are trying to push off my answers which make you uncomfortable... even scare you. I didn't answer because I didn't want to push you into examining your inner fear too closely, for fear of frightening you. Now that you are pressing the question, I have answered.

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38884  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 12, 2014, 08:08:39 PM
Atheism is a religion. It is a religion of hate for God.
Atheists don't hate god. They simply just don't believe he exists.
I don't believe in Santa Claus, by your logic I also hate him.

Wrong. Rather, there aren't any true atheists. Why? Because everybody knows in his heart that God exists. Why? Because the Spirit of God is in the heart of everybody, holding every person alive. All know Him instinctively - "no atheists in the foxholes." Extreme joy, or extreme fear or pain in the life of anyone, shows him/her that he/she believes in God.

Those who claim that God doesn't exist are liars. Because of this, essentially there aren't any atheists. Those liars who adamantly claim they are atheists, do so because they think that their claims will make Him go away. They hate Him.

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I don't believe anyone can be 100% atheist, as there will always be that little bit of doubt however small.

But....

I also don't believe anyone can be 100% religious, as there will always be that little bit of doubt however small.

What does "100% religious" mean? If you mean like I said, that atheists are liars, this is a statement that they are not 100% believers in their religion.


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It works both ways you see.

Your comments suggest to me, that the possibility of god not existing is terrifying to you. Why is that? The only hate I am picking up on is your hate of those that have a different opinion to yourself.

A blind man is walking along on a bridge, tapping away with his cane. Suddenly his cane taps on emptiness. He doesn't realize that he took a wrong turn somewhere in his crossing of the bridge, and he is now standing at the edge of the chasm below. No fear, because he doesn't realize.

A man that can see, standing at the same spot, might be wetting his pants out of fear.

That isn't hate. It is the fear of a seeing harm come to a blind person, actuated by empathy. If the blind man doesn't heed the lack of tap from his cane, or doesn't heed the warning call of the seeing person...

Well, you get the picture.

However, in addition to the above allegory, when people sincerely move in the direction of believing in God, God appreciates that. He is a merciful God. He definitely would turn from His anger about people denying Him, to giving them special blessings for turning to Him. Blessings that come to the nation, come also to me a little.

Selfish, ain't I?

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38885  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: December 12, 2014, 06:41:20 PM
Something to do - pastime.

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38886  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 12, 2014, 06:31:46 PM
Atheism is a religion. It is a religion of hate for God.
Atheists don't hate god. They simply just don't believe he exists.
I don't believe in Santa Claus, by your logic I also hate him.

Wrong. Rather, there aren't any true atheists. Why? Because everybody knows in his heart that God exists. Why? Because the Spirit of God is in the heart of everybody, holding every person alive. All know Him instinctively - "no atheists in the foxholes." Extreme joy, or extreme fear or pain in the life of anyone, shows him/her that he/she believes in God.

Those who claim that God doesn't exist are liars. Because of this, essentially there aren't any atheists. Those liars who adamantly claim they are atheists, do so because they think that their claims will make Him go away. They hate Him.

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38887  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Please help. What do I do when attacked by currupt police and lying prosecutor? on: December 12, 2014, 02:02:29 PM
Basically, you have the right to face your accuser. You have the right to question your accuser when he/she is on the stand. Your accuser must verify under oath or affirmation whatever he/she is accusing you of. There must be evidence. There must be a witness that identifies you. There must be harm to someone or damage to someone's property with clear evidence that it was you that did the harm or damage.

If your accuser is the State or Federal, get them on the stand to testify. If the State (not its attorney representative) doesn't get on the stand so you can question it, and so that it can verify its claim against you, or if it doesn't appear in court when you require, at worst, case dismissed. At best, you counter-sue the State for damages.

This is the same if it is a corporation or company attacking you. A corporation can't get on the stand (just like the State can't) because the corporation doesn't have an actual voice with which it can testify. The attorney for the corporation can't testify except if he has firsthand, direct knowledge of the incident. The CEO can't testify because he is only the CEO, not the corporation, etc.

Since your case is over, your best bet is to contact Karl Lentz to see if he will work with you direct. You may be able to reopen your case, or file a claim against anybody from the judge to your own attorney for doing things wrong. Generally, once there has been a jury trial, it is very difficult to reverse the verdict of the jury. But you may be able to sue people for damages so that your suit winnings cover the expenses of your judgment and sentence.

Websites for Karl are:

http://www.broadmind.org/

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html


Additional, to show what Karl does and how he does it are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D

http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwyBESRGpm1vZRErvtSmNGg


Another, not Karl:

http://voidjudgments.com/

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38888  Other / Off-topic / Re: I know there is no such thing as 'free energy' but what if it was possible? on: December 12, 2014, 11:12:48 AM
All energy is free energy. If it didn't exist in free form, or bound up in the atoms and molecules of material, there would be no place that we could get it from.

The part that is not free is not the energy. The part that is not free is the accessing of the energy, and the manipulating of it to do our bidding.

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38889  Other / Off-topic / Re: Breast Wishes for Xmas NSFW on: December 12, 2014, 10:50:50 AM
Overgrown sweat glands.

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38890  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 12, 2014, 10:42:20 AM
The universe, nature around us, and life show us that there is something fantastically great behind everything that exists. If there weren't, researchers would have developed life extension so that we could all live to 1000 years old, long ago.

Why do you say that? Is your claim that, because it took our monkey brains hundreds of years to develop understanding and tools to understand biology, that biology is too complex to be created by anything but a god?

Because the whole of entropy and the 2nd Law of Thermal Dynamics show us that the kind of development that goes from nothing to life, is destroyed by nature way faster than it can be propagated, even if it could be shown to be possible to exist and propagate that way, which it hasn't.


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Why does a system have to be simple for it to be natural?

It doesn't. And that's the whole point. Even the best of researchers can't change the technology that is in the universe enough to produce a method for folks to live healthy lives to even 200 years old.

Where does our technology come from? Observing and using what is in nature... nowhere else. The universe is packed full of technology. It is simply put together differently - better - than ours, and for a different purpose.


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And, let's say our society collapses, and we lose a lot of our knowledge. Does the fact that it would take centuries to rediscover how to make something as complex as a computer CPU mean that CPUs are made by god?

What do you think a brain is?


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Or better yet, what will you be claiming when, in 50 years or so, we DO figure out how to live to 1000? (We're actually very close, since we understand almost all mechanisms of aging at this point, and are now just working on ways to repair and modify them)

I'll be saying, prove it. And if anyone reaches 200 using the methods research provides, I'd say that they had a good start. I might partake just to see if they are right.


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As it is, research is still just finding out some of the basics of life. And we certainly don't have the ability to travel the universe. We can barely get off our own planet. Since we don't have much of a handle on anything - like we don't even know how to will ourselves to grow back a finger when we lose one - where does all this complex universe come from?

Why do you say it's complex? That's just your personal opinion, based on your lack of knowledge. Life and the universe are fairly straightforward to biologists, physicists, and engineers. You are arguing from ignorance here, basically claiming "I don't understand, so no one else does either."

If you really believe this, then you are missing a whole lot of scientific research. Creating simple life in the lab is something that is complicated enough that the things that we create can't be ascertained to really be life. Somebody doesn't do this in his garage in his spare time. There are hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment that go into the experiments, and still, there is no certainty that the thing that was created is life. Yet, nature does it all the time, automatically.


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We use religion basics in our everyday lives. We "religiously" do certain activities all the time - eating, sleeping, going to the job, breathing.

That's not religion, that's biomechanical processes and instincts Tongue We do them because our body sends signals making us crave those things, and rewards us with physical evidence when we complete the tasks. You don't eat food because you have faith that you are hungry, and have faith that you will feel full after. Conversely, a person born in a society that doesn't believe in god or Jesus (such as in Islamic, Buddhist, Shinto, or atheist society) doesn't get cravings for Jesus.

The idea wasn't that our whole life is a religion. The idea is that we do many things in our lives in a religious way, like a religion.

People forget the morality that is built into them naturally. Without it, we would be savages. Even the animals have certain morality built into them by nature.

Formal religions are there for two reasons: 1) to remind us of the morality we forget; 2) to prepare us to enter into eternal life. The fact that there are bad people who use formal religious societies to do their wicked deeds simply shows us that not every person is morally minded... or headed for eternal life. However, if there were no formal religions to push morality, there would be way more chaos among the lives of people.

You can see that success in the lives of people, equates to the quality of the laws they religiously follow. All you need do is compare the religions of the various nations, and how well the people follow them.


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Think long and hard before you decide to bypass religion.

Every atheist in America has. You may assume that atheists started out that way, and just haven't considered the idea of god before, but in fact America is absolutely steeped in religion. 80% of it is Christian (which is why we laugh when they claim religious persecution, or claim they are courageous to say they love Jesus in public), and religion is mentioned everywhere almost daily. So atheists almost always start out christian here,believing what you believe, and then get educated, start questioning and thinking, and come to their senses, realizing that Christian stuff doesn't make sense.

Someone has deluded a whole bunch of folks into thinking that atheism is NOT a religion. Can we prove the existence of God? Can we prove that God does NOT exist? No, both ways. Atheism says that God does not exist, without proof, and even against the odds. Atheism is a religion. It is a religion of hate for God.


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Some of that religion is about God, the Guy Who holds your life and existence in the palm of His hand. To see it, simply look at nature around you, and see how your existence fits into everything that exists.

Fitting into things that exist is evolution, not god. You, as a species, would not exist in your environment if you didn't fit into it, because you would either starve due to lack of food you need, or get eaten due to being weak and stupid. So of course every living thing fits into everything that exists. Those who didn't went extinct long ago.

Except for one major thing. Evolution is an idea. It is even touted as only a theory among those who are attempting to prove it. This is because the researchers are just scratching the surface in their proof for evolution. They aren't even far enough along with their evidences to say that their evidence for a factual evolution, do NOT prove God in some other way at the same time. Evolution is nothing. It is fabrication.

Complex universe and life, combined with the wide-spread entropy that exists, combined with the cause and effect nature of everything that exists, suggests God so extremely much that He might as well have been proven. There is so little in the universe that suggests that God DOESN'T exist, that He is essentially proven, even though He technically has not been.

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These are words. Anybody can say that they mean nothing. And, of themselves, they mean extremely little. Yet, when the themes that these word express are examined in detail, the themes prove to be truth.

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38891  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 12, 2014, 09:54:49 AM
We first have to start with the claim as a hypothetical.  This is permitted because we needn't argue for the claim itself, at least in a direct sense.

The claim, unsupported by any evidence, serves as a point of reference.  Having made the claim, we then need to create a theory that explains the entirety of reality at the height of generality, i.e. a theory whose explanatory power cannot logically be surpassed.  By definition, such a theory would provide insight into the most fundamental characteristics of reality. 

After first demonstrating that such a theory is sound, we look at those fundamental characteristics and hold them up to our initial claim.  If the results of the theory imply the claim, then we can conclude God exists, and at a 100% level of certainty (practically, it's irrelevant if people modify their original claim; identifying and knowing the absolute limit of rational explanation is the important part).

First of all, all you'll have as a result is a hypothesis, not a theory. And that's no more valid than an opinion, albeit based on logical set of words. And second, that theory does not automatically prove god exists, particularly because you would have to define what god is in the first place. So far no one has been able to.

Place everything on an even basis. The question is, "Proof for God?" No absolute proof for God exists, or for anything else that would have the strength of God if He did existed. Forget the proof idea. also, forget the idea of all kinds of processes that such a God - if He exists - might have brought everything into existence.

Rather than trying to prove something that is not provable, look at the various ideas. Various ideas for where the universe came from are?:
1. God;
2. Evolution;
3. Nothing exists; it is all a figment of the imagination (not really a point because the imagination has to come from somewhere);
4. ?;
5. ?;
6. ?...

We simply don't know where the universe comes from in all its complexity, simplicity, decline (entropy), and seeming ascent at times. So far, because of our INability to understand all but a little, the best bet is "God," best by a long shot. It is even better than saying, Because we don't absolutely know for a fact, I'm simply going to ignore the whole topic. Why? No proof, but exceedingly strong evidence.

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38892  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 12, 2014, 09:11:46 AM
Check out the movie Zeitgeist. It tells all about how Christianity is a actually astrology - related cr**. People, don't be ridiculous, you have one life, live it freely, don't be mislead by religion, cause it's all just a joke. There, I rest my case.

Now we have 2 Gods? Astrology is crap. Any god it produces is crap.

The universe, nature around us, and life show us that there is something fantastically great behind everything that exists. If there weren't, researchers would have developed life extension so that we could all live to 1000 years old, long ago.

As it is, research is still just finding out some of the basics of life. And we certainly don't have the ability to travel the universe. We can barely get off our own planet. Since we don't have much of a handle on anything - like we don't even know how to will ourselves to grow back a finger when we lose one - where does all this complex universe come from?

We use religion basics in our everyday lives. We "religiously" do certain activities all the time - eating, sleeping, going to the job, breathing. Religion that worships the God that is behind everything that exists, is certainly something noble.

Think long and hard before you decide to bypass religion. Some of that religion is about God, the Guy Who holds your life and existence in the palm of His hand. To see it, simply look at nature around you, and see how your existence fits into everything that exists.

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38893  Other / Politics & Society / Re: China Just Overtook The US As The World's Largest Economy on: December 11, 2014, 10:22:56 AM
A lot of people are reacting negatively to this news but fail to see a lot of the good that comes out of it. For one thing, since manufacturing costs in China vs the U.S. is almost reaching parity, this forces a lot of U.S. based companies to bring back their operations onto the home front. In the end this will be better for our own economy.

Hell, the Chinese are even outsourcing some jobs to the U.S. which can only help OUR own economy.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/24/smallbusiness/china-us-manufacturing/

The U.S. government raised taxes so high that it made good sense to move manufacturing to other countries... because the labor was cheap there. Now those other countries have the technology that we sent over there to do the manufacturing, and they are developing the tech that we didn't send. Soon there will be no cheap labor countries left to go to.

As our cheap labor countries grow with our technology, their labor becomes more expensive, because they adopt our ways.

Our economy will collapse because our government and banks are too greedy to acquiesce to the things that makes sense: eliminate taxes, get rid of stupid laws that take freedom from the people, open up every kind of home manufacturing to any Americans that want, eliminate the police state, etc.

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38894  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire. on: December 11, 2014, 10:10:28 AM
what shall we do then? keep our mouth shut?

Speak of love, not fear.  A world in fear does not need more fear, it needs love.

Dank, would you rather see us talking about peace and love? God and ultimate salvation? We would love to but you see... We do not have any clue about any of that things. But war... war in our blood, after all people are born to be soldiers.

"Perfect love drives out fear," comes from 1 John in the New Testament of the Bible.   Smiley
38895  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Lockheed says makes breakthrough on fusion energy project on: December 11, 2014, 10:02:45 AM
This thread reminded me about a plasma process that converts garbage into clean energy. The project is operational. The device used is relatively small. I believe these units are in use in a few different locations throughout the western hemisphere. A portion of one website article about them:
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While the technology of processing materials with plasma has been around for some time now, Joseph Longo, CEO and founder of Startech Environmental Corporation has developed a device that can handle pretty much any type of waste put into it and turn it into a clean source of energy.


http://www.greengeek.ca/plasma-process-converts-garbage-into-clean-energy/

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The process produces enough synthetic gas to power the unit, as well as a surplus which could be sold directly or used to generate excess electricity, providing an additional source of revenue for the facility.
38896  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: December 11, 2014, 09:47:12 AM
There is one major religious difference between Christianity and every other religion of the world. God requires perfection, a thing that humankind cannot attain. The perfection was done for us by God coming in the form of the man, Jesus, Who not only remained perfect, but took the punishment of death and Hell for us all. Then He arose from the dead, ascended into Heaven, and will return to judge all people for their faith in Him. Christianity is the ONLY religion that has this.

Islam doesn't have faith in Jesus. Because of this, all Muslims are lost, except a very few that believe both religions. So, the question is. Why let these religiously fanatic Muslims live, even though the vast majority of them are peaceful? After all, they will only have kids doomed to Hell because their kids will be as stubbornly Islamic as they are. Like parents, like children.

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Muslims have faith in Jesus. He is another prophet in Islam, same as Abraham and all the rest of them. He simply isn't the last prophet. Which also means Islam is an Abrahamic religion. And as RodeoX said, Christianity copied heavily from previous religions and myths. There is hardly a lot that is original to it.

Muslims have faith in Jesus in what way? If it is faith that He existed, okay, great. Saves nobody. If it is faith that Jesus is the Savior of the world, and that all who place their faith in Him will be saved, then they have faith in Christianity, not Islam.

If you or I start a religion today, and our religion says that Abraham was the major prophet of our religion, all of a sudden we have an Abrahamic religion. That's about the way Islam started.

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Bullshit.  Let's stick to a concern about whether you've got a religion that teaches unscientific nonsense, stuff like splitting the moon or dead people rising.  

What do you mean? Many folks think that the asteroid belt was a planet once - perhaps a good size moon of Jupiter. Nobody knows for sure, scientifically. Why do you want to stick to fiction about religion? Religion is real. so, the ideals behind it must have some basis in reality, even though many of them can't be proven scientifically.

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EDIT: The miracles about how a person is conceived, is born, grows into an adult, and withers away to die are finally being understood a little bit, scientifically. Yet, we really don't have a clue how this whole thing started, or what could have started it. Actually, it is scientifically impossible according to the limited science that we have. So, why would things like splitting the moon or the resurrection be considered nonsense, when the whole of life is something that is extremely impossible, except for one point? It exists.
38897  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 11, 2014, 12:49:59 AM
Okay. Thanks for saying. I don't agree with you. Have a nice day.

You called me a fool. You said my God was the devil.

Now you want me to have a nice day.

Are you sure?

You're not making much sense, BADecker. Tongue

Are you sure you are not another of Decksperiment's multiple personalities?

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This is my only account.

Careful what you say about God; he is not known to meet human expectations. Tongue

Okay. Thanks for saying. Have a nice day.

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38898  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 11, 2014, 12:43:18 AM
Okay. Thanks for saying. I don't agree with you. Have a nice day.

You called me a fool. You said my God was the devil.

Now you want me to have a nice day.

Are you sure?

You're not making much sense, BADecker. Tongue

Are you sure you are not another of Decksperiment's multiple personalities?

Smiley
38899  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 11, 2014, 12:38:05 AM
Okay. Thanks for saying. I don't agree with you. Have a nice day.

You called God the devil.

You called the WORD a heresy.

You called me a fool.

You have voted-in and out the true laws of Christ.

Okay. Thanks for saying. I'll take it under advisory, even though I don't agree. Have a nice day.

Smiley
38900  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: December 11, 2014, 12:07:51 AM
I have stated my points of view. You have stated yours.

Actually, what I was looking for in this thread was proof.

Proof is an argument backed up by points; you made eight points which I refuted; as a result, I showed you that God's WORD is at least as legitimate as what you promote.

You called my truth a heresy; however, God denies that the recorded truth (in the published WORD) is a heresy:

"I do not fit the role as to Christian heretic for I do, in fact, travel about with the Christ in total Godness and therefore I certainly do not deviate in any iota from the whole Truth of the doctrine of God"

This is the same God that you called "the devil". I think that you are wrong and have insulted your brother; you took this discussion way too far. I do not feel so bad myself though. Actually, in the WORD it says that I should not pay attention to critics and attackers, and should not get involved in doctrinal quarrels, so I honestly have no good reason for having this talk with you.

Smiley

Okay. Thanks for saying. I don't agree with you. Have a nice day.

Smiley
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