We're talking about animals here, not plants, right? What's worse, killing animals for food? Or killing them for pleasure? Humor me in this. The American Indians killed the buffalo for food, and for their hides. They limited their kills to what they needed to live. The white-eye sportsmen hunted buffalo for fun - but also at times, to clear grazing land for cattle. Many viruses are little living animals. Yet many of these hypocrite animal rights activists get vaccinated so that they can kill off viruses. Why don't they figure out ways so that they can save all the bacteria and viruses in their own bodies, rather than killing them off with their immune systems and medicine? There's gotta be a way to keep from slaughtering all those tiny animals. And, now, since you probably didn't think of this before, don't go out and commit suicide for all the deaths you are causing. Such a thing might increase certain animal lives in your body for awhile. But it would ultimately destroy the lives and potential lives of many others. Look. Before the Great Flood of Noah's day, people were supposed to eat plants. After the Flood, God gave them permission to eat animals, as well. Man, to keep from becoming downright murders of all kinds of animals, have bred certain of the animals for food - cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, etc. Quit protesting what I do with my property. Maybe if you would learn how to take care of your own, and learn how to think straight, as well, you would realize that you are being used by politics to mess with peoples' lives.  I love to eat animals that love to eat plants. I love to eat plants through the tasty flesh of plant loving animals Most plants are difficult to digest. Most animals are not. The only thing you need from the plants is a dose of phyto-nutrients now and again. And the best place you can get these is from plankton. Compare your teeth, claws and digestive system to that of any true carnivore, then get back to me. That blood/flesh smoke coming off of your dead animal carcass is getting you soo high, you don't know wtf is goin on ! From http://mmsnews.is/mms-newsletters/171-vegetarianism-facts-and-fallacies-04-22-2013 : Please don’t believe me without verifying the facts. Check everything I say. All the real data is on the internet. You can just go to Google and put in the name of anything you want to check. I have also included sixty-nine references that you can check directly. Even then, when you have checked the references you still have to think and evaluate what is wrong and what is right. So let’s get a couple of the most important misleading conceptions out of the way so we can then talk about vegetarianism a bit. Most of the vegetarian books say that our digestive system is similar to that of vegetarian animals such as sheep, goats, cows, etc. Well this may surprise you a bit, but there is no such thing as vegetarian animals. There are some fruitarian animals, but sorry, no vegetarians. Sheep, goats, cows, and other plant eaters are not vegetarian. They eat grasses of various types. You can try to call grass a vegetable, but sorry, there are distinct and multiple differences from vegetables. The grass eaters can digest cellulose but man cannot digest cellulose. Man would die eating only what all those plant eaters eat. Where they feed cows corn (a vegetable), they get very poor results as far as those of us who are health advocates are concerned, and they get sick cows. ... Man would die eating the same diet that grassy plant eaters eat. I think you already know that what I am saying is the truth, but check it out. Man cannot digest cellulose which is the biggest part of the plant eaters’ diet.The second deliberate misconception (which is the definition of a lie) written in almost every vegetarian book is that there is some sort of similarity between the nutritional system of plant eaters and man.... COMPARISON CHART FOR MAN, WOLF, AND PLANT EATERs
[Check it out at the link.] ...
Only humans are vegetarians. There are no animals of earth that are only vegetarians. Some animals are fruitarians.
(See paragraph number 3 of this article above.)
Just because grass eating animals can get enough nutrients from grass is no indication that humans can get enough nutrients from vegetables. Grass and vegetables are not the same thing. Sheep and humans are not the same thing and there is nothing to indicate that they should be eating the same thing. In fact, sheep eat grass and human vegetarians eat vegetables. They are not the same thing. (I hope you recognize this data is simple facts, and really not disputable.) ... Go to the article to read more. It is really quite interesting. And it almost proves that most vegetarians in modern countries are essentially starving themselves to death. |
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Who pay for road building and maintenance then?
Who pays for the telephone infrastructure and maintenance?
Customers. In USA, most roads are paid for by automobile licensing. But there are private toll roads. This is where a private person or company builds a road, and if you want to drive on it, you pay first. Private toll roads work better and usually are in better shape than government roads paid by licensing. |
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And who are you fighting with? Besides yourself. Now unless you're a misanthrope that thinks all of humanity are morons, exactly what is your opponent that you must 'fight'? Do you think whatever you think you know is real? How about this, www.PentagramOfBlood.com see all those events that form a satanic pentagram over the USA, now how does your brain think? Do you not believe historical evil is being committed to form a Pentagram? I love to fight, but I just expose people for what they are to wake them up, they're sleeping slaves all of humanity, and higher intelligence uses them for entertainment value. After all YOU ARE INSIDE A COMPUTER did you not know that? www.HologramUniverse.orgSo guess what, you're part of AI, you're the brainless drone doing the fighting for an AI master. I love to fight, I got three belts in martial arts and my nickname is JAW BREAKER. So you got what you wished for, an AI bot to fight for you, look in the mirror and say HI to it. Face it kiddo you never had one original thought in your lifetime have you? I have original thoughts all the time and they often create new laws in math or physics and an OS I created is being used for the first real version of AI computers that will be able to create 10 dimensional space. Your little brain, well it can fit inside a 10 dimensional AI computer, now prove you're not an AI bot? Yet I have proven to most YOU ARE. I love to fight, especially when someone thinks they actually have a brain and others are idiots. Me, I'm a misanthrope, I see all of humanity like you, enslaved by AI puppet masters inside a HOLOGRAM UNIVERSE. Now if you had a real brain you could travel in the astral realm and see what I say is TRUTH, but face it, you are the AI bot and you aren't too bright are you? Good points. But if they were meant to suggest that AIs should not be fighting... well, almost all the major movies have to do with fighting. Everybody wants to fight. But to keep from hurting someone, or getting hurt, they are attempting to turn the fighting over to AIs. Isn't it the folks who would rather duke it out for real, the ones who are really the dangerous ones? |
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you are energy, it's why you see the tunnel and energy when you leave the illusion
think if the universe as an ocean of light/energy
you are a drop out of the ocean
when you die the drop goes right back to the ocean of light/energy
you are pure energy, the body and the rest is just illusion
energy creates illusions since its programmed to create illusions
Why would you want to walk around saying to yourself that you are energy? No fun in that. Stay in the matrix, and eat your tasty, juicy steak rather than having to eat that tasteless gruel (even though it has all the vitamins and nutrients in it, that you need, so that you can live).  |
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Probably the topic title should read: "Seals are raping penguins and scientists... don't know why?" And the answer is probably the simplest. Penguins, just like many women, are out looking for something bigger. And the scientist, always eager to get the most accurate data, want to experience it in the full.  |
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As always, when talking about complex subjects, all kinds of assumptions are made. They are often automatically injected, and the listener (reader), because he is focused on some major point, often misses some little assumption that can have a tremendous impact on the whole. For example, from the above, linked, Nick Szabo article: As Dawkins has observed, death is vastly more probable than life. Cultural parts randomly thrown together, or thrown together by some computationally shallow line of reasoning, most likely result in a big mess rather than well functioning relationships between people. The cultural beliefs which give rise to civilization are, like the genes which specify an organism, a highly improbable structure, surrounded in "meme space" primarily by structures which are far more dysfunctional. Most small deviations, and practically all "radical" deviations, result in the equivalent of death for the organism: a mass breakdown of civilization which can include genocide, mass poverty, starvation, plagues, and, perhaps most commonly and importantly, highly unsatisying, painful, or self-destructive individual life choices. Look at the assumption in the first line of the quote. What is really meant by it? Does the rest of the paragraph really explain it? Consider. Death is NOT more probable than life, because without life, there would be no death, right? I mean, something that is dead, must have been alive at some time. Otherwise it is simply an inanimate object, right? So far in the existence that is around us, we haven't found anything that is alive, and will be alive forever. At least not that we know of. So, someone might think that life and death could be equally probable. However, here is where life is more probable than death. There exist MANY, MANY living things that have not yet died. And until they ALL die, we cannot be secure in the knowledge that they absolutely WILL die. Personally, I do not follow Dawkins. But if he truly thinks that death is more probable than life, he is not thinking clearly. At the very least, he is not expressing himself clearly. Death is absolutely not more probable than life. Death is not even the opposite of life. In fact, life and death have nothing to do with each other except that, without life there cannot be death. EDIT: If you read the article in its entirety, you will be able to find many places where something is inserted that is not explained. It isn't just once or twice. It is throughout the article. Such insertions may sound right and proper. Yet, because there often isn't any explanation of them at all, and because most of the time they could be explained in many different ways, the interpretation of them is left to individual readers who may have many different ideas about what is being expressed. The point? The whole article is virtually meaningless. One might have as relevantly said, "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, etc.," and let it go at that. |
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Why do I like America? Because it is built so that I can change it whenever I start not liking it a little. |
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Hence the thought experiment of which works better. You can include any placebo effects you want and consider them a success. It doesn't change the result. 700 years ago in Europe as I'm sure you are well aware, 1/3 of the population died of this disease despite trying all manner of religious and magical incantations, prayers, etc. Today? As long as you have access to a modern hospital it is easily cured, but you won't even get it in the first place because modern medicine did overnight what thousands of years of magic couldn't do and the disease has been virtually eradicated.
Anyways, pleasure having this discussion with you, but I think we have both said pretty much all we can really say for our respective sides. Cheers.
This isn't completely accurate. Many things might be cured by the science of modern medicine. Yet, one of the things that isn't cured is greed. People, by nature, want to stave off death as long as possible. They look to modern medicine. Yet it isn't modern medicine that has the longest living people in the world. As an example, modern medicine can cure malaria, although it is difficult. MMS, for less than pennies on the dollar, cures malaria in one day. Yet modern medicine won't even test it, although it is curing all kinds of diseases around the world. http://mmsnews.is/Could it be that placebo effect in the greedy helps them overcome the greed disease just long enough for them to figure out how to make more money? I said I wouldn't comment anymore but since you could potentially kill someone I will chime in one last time. No, drinking bleach will NOT cure malaria. It has been studied (though really, common sense should answer this question for you) and does not in any way cure malaria except in the cases where it kills the patient. The ONLY study ever done that indicated it was a cure for malaria was does by the person selling the stuff (and you have the balls to mention greed lol). This is a prime example of what I mentioned earlier. People like you start with the conclusion, and then any evidence that contradicts your conclusions are thrown out. Obviously you won't get results that way (as evidenced by the complete failure of magic at curing disease) and this is why people like you hate the scientific method. It isn't sufficient to simply declare something true, you have to be able to prove it, which is impossible when your entire premise is simply made up. Activated MMS is chlorine dioxide, a mild industrial bleach. It is often used in small quantities to disinfect water. This has been done for a hundred years or more. See what DuPont has to say at: http://www2.dupont.com/Chlorine_Dioxide_Solutions/en_US/index.html?src=gg_clo2_na_chlorine-dioxide-water-purification : Chlorine Dioxide Solutions
DuPont™ Chlorine Dioxide is a safe and highly effective substitute for chlorine. Used by consumers for deodorization and disinfection purposes, and by the oil and gas industry for petrochemical applications, DuPont™ Chlorine Dioxide quickly kills a broad spectrum of organisms, purifying water and providing antibacterial properties. For over 60 years, DuPont has been providing innovative solutions in chlorine dioxide technologies and applications. When you Google "chlorine dioxide" you will get all kinds of sites, most that have good things to say about it, and some that have bad things to say. As I said, MMS costs less than pennies on the dollar to buy when compared with modern medicine. Yet it does some things that modern medicine won't even touch. The interesting thing is that you can make it at home so inexpensively and easy, that any price for ingredients is virtually negligible. Part of the point is that the guys who are promoting it aren't making any profit off it at all. They are working off donations. The charges that they have for seminars are to cover expenses. I'm not going to go through lots of research stuff here. The little I have said is enough to get you off and researching if you want. There is one thing that I will mention, however. When you look up MMS in Wikipedia, the way it is explained is different than the way it is made and used. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone who wants to take the time to edit it. Someone has gone to a lot of trouble to edit MMS in Wikipedia so that it looks bad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxidehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement |
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It costs a lot of money to get good paper for most countries. Unless you have a few thousand bitcoin most countries won't accept you as a citizen. Even the cheap countries you need a few hundred btc.
If you're capable, they'll never know you're there. |
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It's my body, I can do whatever I want with it. That includes poking you in the eye too you bastard.
Never realized what a lovely finger you have, until I saw it this close up. |
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You mean we now need to buy Firefox?  |
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My counter argument is that little $1200 milling, drilling machine that makes me a private, unregistered lower receiver for all kinds of guns. I would have called it my "table argument," but I am running it on my counter. |
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Oh, you just had to, didn't y......... Wait! Hold that thought. This post was supposed to come after your response to my previous post. eh..... I'll finish it up later, after you respond. |
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Many people can vegetables. Some can fruit. Does iCan can meat? |
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This is a great question. One responds with the truth by stating facts.
All I ever wanted was for you to back up your claim that the Bible is an impossible book. Actually, what you were really trying to claim is that "the Bible is the only written word of God". I had asked you to back that up!
When BADecker refused, that is when I went on the prowl, chased him, and took him down, along with his dogma.
I hope you're not implying that you're the one responding with truth. You aren't. Your threads intentionally avoid logic, and you make no indication that you want to learn why your arguments carry absolutely no weight.
All of your posts in this entire thread could have been summed up as "I believe in the Bible, no matter what" and it would carry just as much weight as everything else you've said. Actually, it would carry *more* weight because it would be one of the only factual things that you've stated.
Now, children. I know it hurts a little when you find out that there isn't much (if any) substance to the things that you believe. But YOU ARE ALIVE! You have the opportunity to shake your childishness off, and to move ahead in the direction of REAL TRUTH. Don't fail me now. I have pointed you in the direction where you can find TRUE life, and love, and fulfillment. Grab hold of the things I have shown you. Run with them. LIVE! There were those in this forum who told me it was useless to try to save you. Others suggested that I was only casting my pearls before the swine. But rather than simply accept their words, I pressed on, in the hopes that I could somehow show some of you the way. And I have succeeded with some. Don't fail yourselves, now... now that you are so close to finding out the truths of the Bible. Jesus would love to have you with Him in His kingdom. Throw off the foolishness of your childish ways, and grow up into eternal life! |
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There is no proof that the Bible is the only printed word of God.
If you question BADecker on the integrity of the Bible, he will freak out because you are attacking his dogma.
BADecker is not willing to discuss anything that could contradict his dogma, and he likes it that way.
Decksperiment wrote several pages trying to get this point across, among others...
Huwt youw itty, bitty, feewings, did I? I pierced your dogma. Life is about, at times, feeling comfortable. So, since I am not adverse to you feeling comfortable, I won't object to your statement. But, so that I feel comfortable, neither will I accept it. No need to blindly accept what I say; do your own thinking, and consider the FACT that Jesus never put pen to paper, that Paul never was a "follower of Christ", that Creationism cannot actually explain the anomalies mentioned. Non-thinking is an act of annihilation, a wish to negate existence, an attempt to wipe out reality. But existence exists; reality is not to be wiped out, it will merely wipe out the wiper. By refusing to say “It is,” you are refusing to say “I am.” By suspending your judgment, you are negating your person. When a man declares: “Who am I to know?” he is declaring: “Who am I to live?” You can hardly feel good about yourself if you are wandering around in a self-induced mental fog.Does somebody pay you to write this stuff? No amount of smileys will hide the fact that you are extremely sensitive to this subject matter and result to passive aggression when you no idea how to respond to someone. The idea is to get people to be saved, even atheists, even new agers. Jesus suffered a lot on the cross that day. He did it for me. He did it for you. He did it for everyone. He doesn't want anyone to be lost. How does one respond with the truth while, at the same time, not alienate? bl4kjaguar might be lost, but the fact that he is still answering shows that there is hope. Notice that his answers don't have much of a thread of logic to them. But he still tries. There is still hope. |
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Hence the thought experiment of which works better. You can include any placebo effects you want and consider them a success. It doesn't change the result. 700 years ago in Europe as I'm sure you are well aware, 1/3 of the population died of this disease despite trying all manner of religious and magical incantations, prayers, etc. Today? As long as you have access to a modern hospital it is easily cured, but you won't even get it in the first place because modern medicine did overnight what thousands of years of magic couldn't do and the disease has been virtually eradicated.
Anyways, pleasure having this discussion with you, but I think we have both said pretty much all we can really say for our respective sides. Cheers.
This isn't completely accurate. Many things might be cured by the science of modern medicine. Yet, one of the things that isn't cured is greed. People, by nature, want to stave off death as long as possible. They look to modern medicine. Yet it isn't modern medicine that has the longest living people in the world. As an example, modern medicine can cure malaria, although it is difficult. MMS, for less than pennies on the dollar, cures malaria in one day. Yet modern medicine won't even test it, although it is curing all kinds of diseases around the world. http://mmsnews.is/Could it be that placebo effect in the greedy helps them overcome the greed disease just long enough for them to figure out how to make more money? |
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Rupert Sheldrake - The Science Delusion: Why Materialism is not the AnswerPublished on Jun 13, 2014 Since 1981, Dr. Rupert Sheldrake has been researching morphic fields - his hypothesis about form-giving, immaterial fields which serve as a kind of blueprint for creation. Although he succeeded to find more and more evidence supporting his case, his hypothesis has been mainly rejected by the mainstream scientific community. In his lecture "The Science Delusion", Sheldrake points out several scientific dogmas which prevent science from overcoming its materialistic world view... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1SLQwHDog See what happens to any science professional that abandons standard science rhetoric? The scientific community cuts them off. Note Rupert Sheldrake in this TED Talk video that has been removed from TED Talks for being against modern science. He can't even afford shoes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHUaNAxsTg |
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