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no problem at all.
Your gear is better then 99 percent = good
You are getting 493gh homeside and 488gh pool side = good
temps are under 50c = good
Only possible issue is actual power draw but with your numbers above I would guess you are pulling 380 to 420 watts which is also good.
I make that guess based on your temps and errors which are both good.
Have fun mining.
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Hi,
New to the world of AntMiners. I have the S3+ and am wondering if these numbers are about right. I'm not new to cryptomining but some of these numbers seem backwords. Especially the discard/accept ratio. Can someone please advise me to see if this is about right.
ASICs : all 0s (I know that's good)
Freq : 243.75 (didn't set it to max.) wiring just barely warm. Corsair CX750M P.S.
Temp : 46/47C
GH/s Avg. : 493.83 (status menu)
GH/s Pool side : 488.27
Pool : 99.87% GOOD
I believe those are OK, but the next seem screwy.
Miner Status Menu ;
Accept : 1,327
Discard : 14,789
Now that just don't seem right to me. That's less than a 10% ratio of accepted. Is this common? With my other mining equipment, if I had numbers like that, well...
Clue me in. Do these run this way?
Thank You for the input -
edit: Please don't send me a link to look at numbers. I just want to know if these (AntMiner) run this way. PS numbers.
It is perfectly fine. The developer of cgminer which is used in your miner says discards are meaningless. con kolivas or ck is the developer of cgminer his profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=19971his pools: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.0 him and kano https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=763510.0 |
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Your power cost is key.
The need for a quiet miner?
Your price point ? will you spend 100usd or 1000usd or ?
Do you have a quality psu on hand?
An s-3 = 100 usd and a psu for it maybe 50 usd.
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They managed to squeeze it down to .58 watts.
I wasn't following this, but I think the original S4 was supposed to be undervolted to roughly that level? Then they removed that option from the firmware IIRC. Anyway, I don't think I'll be rushing to buy the S4+, not at this price at least. Congrats everyone on the diff drop, and the rollover should make it interesting in this round. Yeah this is good if you have power under 7 cents and 205 volts or more for power. |
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Yawn. Miners this efficient were available over 8 months ago.
I don't understand why Bitmain would waste time and money updating the S4. What a waste.
They had the chips available it was easy to do. This is actually good for miners with 205 volts and low power costs. If you are not in this group then it is worthless to you. Like myself you need the s-6 or s-7 |
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Yes, I saw that several hours ago. I worry for Bitmaintech when they come out with this rig several months after the S5. It's just not good for THEIR business. They should come out with both of them at the same time. This way they have a better chance of selling the larger form factor with PSU included. We may not see the 3rd generation until late August or September I'm afraid. They will want to squeeze this out as long as possible to sell all of the S4+'s they can. I believe they had a hard time selling all of batch two of the S4 before coming out with the S5 only a couple of months later. At least they came out with the large form factor a little earlier than last year. Maybe they will do better with it. I have no need for the S4+. I could use the boards to replace my boards in the older S4 Batch 2. I would be willing to spend money to replace the boards in all five of my S4's. They stand a better chance of making more money if they would do this. I know plenty of miners with S4's who do this. However, the PSU in the present S4 is the issue preventing them from doing this I'm sure. Maybe they should sell the PSU with the boards as a possible upgrade kit. I look at the current conditions as a shipwreck but I and many others are on good sturdy lifeboats waiting for rescue. We have food water all we need to survive for the moment. I have only new gen gear. It turns a very small profit over power cost. I hang in waiting for a price spike (a rescue from the lifeboat) . I have been doing this method for almost 14 months. Breaking even or very small profits as price of btc has dwindled from 814 usd in feb 2014 to current 225 in apr 2015. |
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49 hours
(155.69%)
We could use a lucky streak. I can't rent any hashpower since it is all over 0.015 due to a new alt coin. If the rates drop tonight I will toss 100 or 200th at the pool.
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If somebody wants to set up a (near) Washington State company producing this things with me - I'm all open for it. This is really by far the cheapest way to set up capacity and it works just perfect.
Now that would be a good idea. That State is far and away the best state in the USA for power cost. Making those containers in the state would be really practical. |
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You made quite a nice piece of gear. Too bad btc is down so much.
This would be a perfect piece of gear for someone in Washington state USA power is under 5 cents. I would think the shipping to USA would be far too high. I do wish good luck for your gear as It is well thought out.
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Well people are renting from nicehash and westhash to mine an alt coin. close to 7ph 7ph/338ph = 2%
We need to see how long this event lasts. 3 days would be nice. 1 week would be outstanding.
Frankly this alt coin pulling rate from btc is going to happen again and again and again. Not sure if it is good or bad in the long run. But I am all BTC so I just rent my gear to nice or west hash and make 0.015 or more for the time being.
Oh bitmaintech announced a s4+ a very interesting price point and piece of gear. I wonder how long they will keep it around this machine represents the ending of the s-3 chip. They managed to squeeze it down to .58 watts. which for the s-3 chip is very good. but it is not as good as an s-5
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I love you Bitmain....
I also love this product. I won't be buying it but it delays the s-7 and the s-6 I am hoping for these to stick around for 2 or 3 months. Then the s-7 comes out in aug. This will keep difficulty growing very slowly which is good. At bitmaintech very smart choice for right now. I am also willing to do a long testing of a demo. I recently put in not 1 but 2 240 volt lines. I would really like to explore the ability to underclock and quiet this machine. Good product choice. AT all miners my self included. We are not seeing .3 watt at the wall gear in the near future. You smartest move is finding at least 8 cent power and threading water for a while |
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I'll take 2.01-2.25% this time.
Methinks once the altcoin hash comes back the difficulty will climb.
please remember no picks till tues. As a courtesy I will allow this one to be placed on hold. Please everyone hold back for about 200 blocks or so. http://btc.blockr.io/charts shows 145 blocks for 4-19 which is pretty much 0.0% to .7 % |
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Well, it appears that at least Westhash has gone back to being "in balance" where the cost to rent is higher than the price to sell hash to Westhash. If I am reading things correctly, I am getting up to .0235 for the hash I am renting to them. This is roughly double what I think I would expect to earn at almost any other BTC pool. None of this makes sense, and it obviously can't last, but it is VERY interesting.
yeah my fixed rates have expired so the magical moment of paying 0.0101 to rent 50th and renting out 2th at 0.0212 is gone. But my two avalon 4.1's are overclocked and earning 0.0212 as I type . pretty good. |
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That is why the idea of using the 300 -1000 zone for your pick makes more sense. Right now we are getting a shit coin rush on nice hash so rates are pretty low. by the 300th block that may go by by and we get a better idea of the diff guess. Going past 1000 blocks or roughly the 26th of april would make it too easy. so 300-1000 blocks kind of works. I say down, it goes up. I say up, it goes down. I'm going to be more patient this time.
yeah I think if we delay until block 300 we can all get a feel for it. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty is -3.39% but it is only 11 blocks in this is based on current and last diff Bitcoin Difficulty: 47,610,564,513 Estimated Next Difficulty: 45,996,464,248 (-3.39%) Adjust time: After 2005 Blocks, About 14.1 days Hashrate(?): 331,173,351 GH/s Block Generation Time(?): 1 block: 10.1 minutes 3 blocks: 30.3 minutes 6 blocks: 1.0 hours Updated: 16:0 (2.6 minutes ago) www.bitcoincharts.com is at -0.05% or 47582393724 this is more of a real world number Waiting until tues is a good idea to do picks. The slight real world of bitcoincharts makes sense to me since all players did better with the diff change. This is chart of last difficulty estimates evolution. Bitcoinwisdom is mostly wrong at the start due to wrong algo. Closest estimate had nextdifficulty.com - it is using last 1000 blocks for estimations.  |
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mon·ey (noun)
- a current medium of exchange in the form of coins and banknotes; coins and banknotes collectively.
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cur·ren·cy read as ˈkərənsē (noun)
-a system of money in general use in a particular country.
So, is bitcoin money or currency?
As of today in the USA it is considered property. Like a book or a tv or like a windows 7 software cd. |
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Nicehash, where do you suggest to get the most recent and accurate information on what we should use as our password. Do you recommend using your main page for SHA-256? Currently it indicates 0.0119 and wondered if using that number or going up a bit higher to make it worth it? I wouldn't want my rigs switching too many times I guess. May as well want to make it worth it. I also some times do not have the access to change my password field, limited access to my miners. So that in itself could be a bust for me to use this type of proxy hashing. What do you think?
We have "percentage p=" on todo list, where you would be able to only specify % above or below current profitability of ideal 100% luck bitcoin mining. But even this would not solve the possible price tag, where your miners may constantly switch on/off. It is impossible to say what price to set that your miners would never fall into this mode. It is good practice to use PPS backup pool for switching. Another option is; you may simply ignore p=. NiceHash paid 4% above ideal 100% luck bitcoin mining in past 30 days and with 2% fee this means 2% above ideal 100% luck bitcoin mining. There are no other pools that can guarantee you this with extremely regular payments. Not to mention extreme spikes that can happen (paycoin for example). Down spikes are not often or very big - we have a lot of buyers that do arbitrage and they pull the price up towards 100% luck bitcoin mining. If you want guaranteed payment, mine with NiceHash. If you want to gamble, choose other pools or even solo pools. I have used your pool for a few weeks now and do enjoy the daily payouts. For historical purpoese what sort of spike did you actually see with the pay coin frenzy? Miners were being paid about 10 times more than usually for about 5 days. Last weekend I saw 30% and tonight 26%. Why the frenzy now? as always a new alt coin take the money while you can. I am getting 0.02 price for it. I am almost wondering if I should fire up my old s1's to help the cause?? Sure if it makes money sense do it. |
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that lowes fan has a good price 139.99
Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.
How many miners will you have ?
Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM. I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear. I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts. But I didn't go as far down as I thought. So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room. I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them. Ac is a no go. what size room will these be in? 20 by 20 with a high ceiling? I don't have exact dimensions. It's above a good sized two car garage and work space. It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far. Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story. I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room. Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10 that is 5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull about 15000 cubic feet . You should be okay as long as you are 2x fan power over cubic feet. What state are you in? Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot. New Jersey, New York not so bad. I'm in Kansas. It's the house on the family farm (real crops sadly not a mining farm  ). But it give me a ton of room and also 200 amps in main breaker, and 100 amps in separate subpanel not connected to main. It's been a good thing for mining. But I will be glad to get some rooms back once I get this done and finished on new mining area. And it's a pretty massive area on it I really need to measure or step it off sometime. Do you have decent power prices? 8 or 9 cents? I would consider them to be decent, not a super deal. But it's in the 9 cents by time you tack on all the fees and taxes. under 10 cents lets you mine above power and other costs. thread water is a big part of the game now. then cash on the upswing. With longer ROI now I don't sell gear near as often as I once was. This new area will allow me to keep my gear over summer (if all works out right) and hopefully have a little room for adding a machine or two as I would guess I will want more. The longest part of this I think will be getting it's electricity wired. It already has networking going out to it. It's going to start with 110's just as it's easy/cheap to do. And hopefully get some 240 later on down the road. It's a heck of a breaker box with 100 amp so lot's of options. Is the breaker box in the new building? I assume it is please post a photo of it. 240 volt is really easy to do. 1 30 amp 2 pole breaker in the breaker box if the breaker box has a pair of 120 wires feed to it. 1 30 amp plug a 10 gauge romex wire a used pdu on ebay and you are done. I will try tomorrow to get a picture. It is a big box. It's ready to have breakers put in it. I still need to do some cleaning in second story. Have 12 guage wire for the 110's and breakers. It is a subpanal that goes to new building it has 100 amp going to it. I could use your advice on PDU I was looking at http://www.tripplite.com/metered-pdu-30a-208v-240v-0u-vertical-c19-c13-outlets-nema-l6-30p-single-phase~PDUMV30HV/ . It appears it uses "NEMA L6-30P" plug. What type of reciptical do I need for that? I would truly appreciate your advice on what type of receptical you wired the 240 to that would work with most PDU's. this ebay seller has good pdu's I have 2 of these. they have an amp meter built in very good price http://www.ebay.com/itm/121380956007? |
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What's the current estimate for miners based on this chip to be released?
I don't know but I believe the op mentioned a working model demo in May. I am waiting for it. |
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Nicehash, where do you suggest to get the most recent and accurate information on what we should use as our password. Do you recommend using your main page for SHA-256? Currently it indicates 0.0119 and wondered if using that number or going up a bit higher to make it worth it? I wouldn't want my rigs switching too many times I guess. May as well want to make it worth it. I also some times do not have the access to change my password field, limited access to my miners. So that in itself could be a bust for me to use this type of proxy hashing. What do you think?
We have "percentage p=" on todo list, where you would be able to only specify % above or below current profitability of ideal 100% luck bitcoin mining. But even this would not solve the possible price tag, where your miners may constantly switch on/off. It is impossible to say what price to set that your miners would never fall into this mode. It is good practice to use PPS backup pool for switching. Another option is; you may simply ignore p=. NiceHash paid 4% above ideal 100% luck bitcoin mining in past 30 days and with 2% fee this means 2% above ideal 100% luck bitcoin mining. There are no other pools that can guarantee you this with extremely regular payments. Not to mention extreme spikes that can happen (paycoin for example). Down spikes are not often or very big - we have a lot of buyers that do arbitrage and they pull the price up towards 100% luck bitcoin mining. If you want guaranteed payment, mine with NiceHash. If you want to gamble, choose other pools or even solo pools. I have used your pool for a few weeks now and do enjoy the daily payouts. For historical purpoese what sort of spike did you actually see with the pay coin frenzy? Miners were being paid about 10 times more than usually for about 5 days. Last weekend I saw 30% and tonight 26%. Why the frenzy now? as always a new alt coin take the money while you can. I am getting 0.02 price for it. |
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I don't think people just shifted their miners. Some people are manipulating the network I think...
No one's manipulating the market, that's called variance. You'll see it every few days. In a small sample size you'll see it a ton. See the chart below. Those swings are all totally normal.  variance is also a part of it but not all of it. Right now nicehash pays 0.0165 for your gear So a lot of players will drift off btc 4.3ph have shifted from btc to whatever see below that is real time and it is a manipulation of btc diff. make a shit coin get people to try to make money on it and lower btc diff in the meantime. We have gaw-zen- JOSH-paycoin to thank for this happening   |
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