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3901  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history on: June 04, 2020, 07:23:07 AM
PS: If bitmain can offer you a new S9 for 63$ now and still make some money, I do not think that they are realy designing the miners up to quality or a long life.

This makes sense, but what I don't seem to understand is the reason why all gears made by Bitmain in 2019 onwards have the same issue, it's not just the 17 series, even the S9k had the same issue of heatsinks/chips falling off the hash boards, I am not sure if you saw my thread regarding the s9k, now I don't know enough about electrics but it seems like bitmain aren't using any type of solder but rather they inherit the postage stamp method of using a bit of saliva to stick them  Grin, I would understand if the heatsinks fall due to over-heating them - that means the quality of the paste they use is bad, but for chips to fall off due to shipping and handling is terrible, I would like to get a an explanation on that.
3902  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: واجهة تداول الفيوتشر بينانس on: June 04, 2020, 06:53:42 AM
يمكنك من هنا اختيار الرافعة المالية في منصة باينانس (متوفرة حسب كل عملة بحد اقصى ×125)

7. أنواع المارجن : (مهم جداً)

اولا مشكور على الشرح الرائع, بالرغم من اني ضد استخدام الفيوتشور ولا انصح اي شخص بالتدوال بأي شي باستتناء post orders الى ان شرحك كان ممتاز وكان يستحق نقاط جدارة واردت ايضا ان اعقب على موضوع المارجن في التداول بالرغم من ان اغلبنا يفهم خطورة هدا الموضوع الا ان معظم المتداولين الجدد لا يفهمون خطورة استعمال المارجن واسمع عشرات القصص عن اشخاص خسرو الاف الدولارات في ساعات نتيجة لاسخدام رافعة عالية ظننا منهم ان السعر سيتجه كما يعتقدون 100% , اكثر القصص تكون مشابها, عمل trade او اتنين على spot وتكون صفقة مربحة ولكن الربح صغير جدا, يشعر الشخص انه افضل متداول في العالم لانه دخل 4 صفقات مربحة, يتحسر ان مكسبه كان 10$ وكان يمكن ان يكون 100$ برافعة على الفيتوشر, فيبدا وتكون اول صفقة خاسرة كافي لمسح مكسبه, يحاول تعويض المكسب فيدخل برافعة اكبر ويخسر, يحاول تعويض خسارته ويخسر كل امواله.

التداول بالرافعة فيه تحدي نفسي سايكولجي صعب ان تفوز فيه ويمكن ان يسيطر عليك الطمع بسهولة, مجددا نصيحة اخوية للكل, لا تقرب الفيوتشور الا ان كانت خبرتك في التداول طوويلة جدا جدا.

بالتوفيق.
3903  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: June 03, 2020, 07:31:15 PM
... not only did halving reduce new produced supply by 50%, but also reduced the overall % of coins being sold by miners.

This is fundamentally wrong, even if satoshi mentioned it, there are no miners who "don't have to sell BTC" it's fake news, at best case scenario I would describe it as miners who would have to sell slightly less btc given the cost of mining, but even that is wrong to be honest, rest assure no large miners on planet earth counts on bitcoin price to go up while paying the bills from revenue that comes outside of his mining operations, everything in mining is fiat-based, that's why we don't see the network having more hashrate than the market can handle because the "we don't sell BTC" theory doesn't exist in the mining world, those who bet on the price to go up simply buy bitcoin, as long as the power company sends the bills in fiat, they will ALWAYS have to sell what they mine, everything involved in their business is fiat related, salaries, rent, power, infrastructure, heck even the mining gears are paid in fiat.

The halving effect won't change much, think of it as a 50% drop in price, how often do we see that in BTC? a lot!, in fact, the halving affects miners less because unlike price changes, the halving is an event that all the big players planned for ahead of time, they positioned themselves in a spot to allow them to stay in the market after the halving, the same way they managed to stay in the game when bitcoin dropped almost 85% in price, it's those small miners and the newbies who get kicked out of the game when such events happen because they think the halving will take BTC to the moon, and the moon being your only plan usually rekt you.

[...]

Very interesting reads, great-searching skills, I, however, have to agree to windjc for the second time ( The first time we agreed to disagree) I don't see that happening, somebody is pushing this news to serve some agenda like always, could it be Bitmain trying to tell the world, hey buy our overpriced gears, the difficulty is going down because miners in Sichuan are shutting down? the Chinese government won't let that happen, in China, anything that brings in $$ and doesn't put the rulers at any direct risk - gets full support, is bitcoin mining a threat to Xi Jinping? the answer is probably no, then mining stays.
3904  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: June 03, 2020, 07:57:22 AM
... some news out of china from what I can make out some miners in a specific area of china have been told to start ramping down there mining efforts from what I can make out it's around 10-12% of the global hashrate that could be effected.  (Still trying to get clarification on this)

Very interesting points indeed, would you elaborate more in regards to the quoted part? The chinese miners were told by whom? It makes a ton of difference if that was a financial advice or a political decision.

To be clear up to this point i don't see us selling off terribly low to the 3k low or below like many traders suggest, i believe we are in capitulation phase, at these stages the market gets rid of all the week hands bulls or bears, a spike to 10k gets many moon boys to fomo and boom! Liquidated, a new low in the  mid 6000 to mid 7000 will get a ton of bears excited and many hodlers lose hope, these sudden sharp moves will get most people out, then followed by a boring sideways market which will wipe out the inpatients, then sometime by year end or next year when nobody expects it, we shoot to 30-50k.

How will hashrare react to all of this is hard to guess, my guess is that we go up in difficulty regardless, for two main reasons, efficiency and the noobs who overpay for mining gears.
3905  Local / التعدين / Re: مواصفات جهاز تعدين Antminer T19 الجديد من Bitmain on: June 02, 2020, 09:35:33 PM
كما جرت العادة ان شركة Bitmain دائما تصدر موديل ال S وبعده بفترة قصيرة تصدر اصدار T, للعلم ان مواصافات اجهزة T دائما ماتكون اضعف من S حيث ان T19 مواصفاته كالأتي

الهاش ريت : 84 تيرا هاش
استهلاك الطاقة: 3150 وات

نسبيا يعتبر اداء الجهاز ممتاز من حيث استهلاك الطاقة مقارنة بالهاش ريت, المشكلة ان سعره غير مبرر من وجهة نظري 1749$ يعتبر رقم مرتفع جدا لي 84 تيرا هاش, خصوصا ان سعر البتكوين لم يستطيع ان يحطم حاجز السعر عند العشرة الاف دولار, والامر قد يزيد سوء, لذلك لا انصح اي احد بشراء هدا الاسك في هده الفترة خصوصا ان مدويل 17 سواء T او S عانو من مشاكل في الجودة وكانت هناك تقرير تتبت ان معدل تعطل تلك الاجهزة يصل الى 30% ونحن لا نعلم حتى الان مدى جودة عائلة ال 19 لذلك افضل الشي هو الانتظار وعدم المخاطرة.
3906  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: June 02, 2020, 08:27:54 PM
Phill, I wish I could be so optimistic Tongue, bitcoin can't keep going up forever, we have been going up since March, out of 11 weeks, 9 of them were green candles, a correction to $7700 would be very healthy if this uptrend is to be sustained, now as far as the upward scenario, almost all traders agree on $10500 being the most crucial level to break if price breaks that level and doesn't drop below right away, safe to say that 14k, 20k is coming, if not then we would be hanging around these levels for months.

Meanwhile, we are maintaining more or less the same base, 200~ blocks range.

Current Pace:   89.5099%  (1777 / 1985.26 expected, 208.26 behind)
Next Difficulty:   between 13573359215907 and 13593105725921
Next Difficulty Change:   between -10.3361% and -10.2057%
3907  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer T17 will only hash on 2 boards on: June 02, 2020, 08:04:05 PM
In that case I might put the whole hash board into the oven for 10 minutes at 200C. Maybe it will help Cheesy

That will be a perfect way to toast all 30 asics including the 29 chips which are likely working just fine at the moment, asic boards are very different from those GPUs (this does not mean this method will actually work and not damage a GPU) but the chips on these boards have a max temp of 100c or below depending on the model, putting them under heat for 10 mins will most likely break all of them, please don't do that, follow the proper method of fixing the soldering on the bad chip.
3908  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history on: June 02, 2020, 07:23:13 AM
Sorry to hear your story, although by now I am not surprised to read such stories, in fact, I'd be surprised hearing the opposite about these crappy gears Bitmain makes.

Did the support bots at bitmain give you any troubleshooting aside from the

"Sir please reset the mine and flash the latest firmware" or "Sir this is the recovery files put on sd and flash, use this guide"?

I am sure that members here provide a million times better troubleshooting than bitmain's support, did they tell you about the cheap soldering they use? I can bet the house that the 2 boards that failed had a loose heatsink/chip on them, just like 99% of other issues happen, so another month or so of delay, only to get the same unit you ordered a long time ago, by the time you start hashing - all those S19s/M30s have been plugged in, well good luck with that.
3909  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain introduces Antminer T19 84Th on: June 01, 2020, 09:22:38 PM
This gear is overpriced, and for those who either have not tried the 17 series or simply had good luck with them, you should know that bitmain gears right after the 15 series became of terrible quality, large farms are reporting 30% failure rate on the 17 series, one member explained in great details what was wrong with those gears, there is no guarantee that the 19 series will be any different, I think we all know by now that bitmain doesn't give a shit about any one of us, if your gear breaks in a few weeks, they will ask you to ship it at your own cost and it will take a long time until they fix it, that will increase the cost of the miner and waste a ton of your time.

If you insist on buying these gears, you should at least wait for a month or two until you see how they did with other people, but if you want your $2000 to be a laboratory rat for bitmain, be my guest, and quote me when your gear fails or loses a board a month after you have received it.
3910  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer T17 will only hash on 2 boards on: June 01, 2020, 07:27:17 PM
Code:
2020-06-01 15:38:33 driver-btm-api.c:1037:check_asic_number: Chain 2 only find 0 asic, will power off hash board 2

Troubleshooting the 17 series gears make you feel like a robot, it's almost always the same cause for every problem out there, what you described sounds like a bad connection on one of the chips/heatsinks, due to bad soldering in most cases, at least based on my personal experience and the data I collect from research and asking around, a chain that shows 0 asic in most cases has a fault chip number 1, so for your case with the T17, you can use this image to identity that chip.



Keep in mind that it's not always chip 0, the solution to this is to identify the bad chip/heatsink, usually, if the soldering is too bad and just about to fail, applying side pressure using your finger/s can be enough to remove to the bad chip, you have to do that on the 30 chips that have the larger heatsinks and not the once at the back, and once that chip falls off, you have to resolder it, and that is a whole different story.

Also if you are lucky, applying some pressure at the top of all 30 chips (pressing them down while the board is flat on a solid surface) will help with the connection, as weird as it sounds, it does work at times, also the chip could eventually re-solder itself if kept under heat coming from the other working boards, but it is unlikely, so try the pressure trick, if it doesn't work, you will need to remove the bad chip and re-solder it.

Just cry like me, i lost my only high end equipment i have (a T17) after a 1 month of use, i cant send it back, cost too much. Soo is time to cry.

If I were to cry over every board I lost on shitty bitmain gears, I would have caused floods that will sink the other working boards  Cry, losing a board or a miner is something you should get used to when dealing with bitmain gears, sadly I have only released this a bit too late, but better late than never, no more 17 series for me.
3911  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Strange Error In Miner on: June 01, 2020, 06:54:59 PM
For unlock ssh , the miner need have this files :

-dropbear
-dropbear_rsa_host_key
-lighttpd-htdigest.user

Thanks for the valuable information you put here, I have asked taserz to chime in with what he knows, hopefully the two of you can cooperate and find a simple way to extract a flashable firmware from an existing firmware installed on a miner, that would help a lot of members.
3912  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: June 01, 2020, 12:19:13 AM
My guess is  s19 pro and s19  shipped in 10,000 units to 20,000 unitswhich is

1000000 th   - 2000000th
      1000  ph - 2000ph
            1 eh   - 2eh

My guess is that it's a lot more than that, after the 10% drop and should price maintain the $9000 level, we will most likely see a spike in difficulty if all that S19 is going to add is 1-2eh then mid efficient gears like the T17s are still safe at the average 5-6c, if it's more then it's about game-over for those, I also noticed a slight increase in price for the S9 in China (the U.S is not effected) it seems like some huge farms are taking a huge bet on the rainy season, with power rate at 2 cents, a 10% drop in difficulty and ROI in that S9 is really good, S9 at default settings makes about 60 cents a day at 2 cents now, about 66 cents a day or $20 a month after the drop, with a custom firmware they can do even better, so $40/$20 that is 60 days to ROI the miner, with 2 more months of mining or right about when the rainy season is coming to an end, after that, they can still sell it for $20, so

Cost = $40
Profit= 20+20+20+20+20 = $100, take difficulty increase into account, roughly remove 1 month worth of profit, so that will be $40 investment for $40 profit, someone with the proper mining farm can through in a million dollars and make another million out of it in 4-5 months, I remember last year moon soon season in china caused a spike in difficulty and S9 prices mooned, can't expect a different scenario this year, so I tend to agree, after this drop, we could really start climbing back up.
3913  Other / Meta / Mikeywith Merit Source Application (Bitcoin Mining) on: May 31, 2020, 11:32:05 PM
I have been active in Bitcoin mining section for about 2 years, seeing someone like -ck who is the core developer of Cgminer which 90% of mining gears use today with below-average merit score of about 300 merit, and seeing great developers such as but not limited to thierry4wd, taserz and braiins with "member" rank or close, gives a clear sign that the mining boards lack merit.

If you check the support child board alone, you will easily spot a dozen of posts that deserve merit and got none, mining is the "backbone" of Bitcoin, and the mining board is highly undervalued (I could be a little biased for obvious reasons  Grin). Bitcoin mining boards combined got 1.79% of the total forum merit, while the subsection of altcoins announcements alone got 6.07% , not to mention about other boards that add just a little value to the forum and bitcoin and have a much higher rate than Bitcoin Mining.

If my application is not approved (which is understandable), the least that should be done IMO is increasing the small merit allocation for the (two ?) merit sources who are active in the mining section.

Below are 10 posts that either received no merit, or that I think deserve more merit.

I have removed some parts because the content was too much, for further evaluation please visit the links and check the whole post.

ONE

This miner is a clone version of Cheetah a1 miner and it seems their old website aisenminer.top is suspended. I can't even find the firmware on Google for this miner.

Anyway, can you try some steps below and maybe it can solve your issue.

- Find the reset button near the SD card slot then press the button for 15 seconds then release. Test again after.

- If it doesn't work try to disassemble(I don't know exactly the miner what it looks like) and look for ribbon cables connected from the control board to hashboard. Remove them all then reattach them and also the power supply on 3 hashboard after that reattach the ribbon cable and power supply to all hashboard and control board. After that test it again.

- If the issue still persists try to check the hashboard one by one remove the ribbon cable and power supply to two hashboard then test it again. Check the kernel logs for changes and if it's running fine without the other two. If it's running fine then do the same on the other two hashboard to test which one is broken.

- Since you have many working miners why not try to take the hashboard from working miner and use it to test it on the broken miner. So that we can test if the issue is on the hashboard/program or if the 3 hashboard is broken. Also, check the power supply and maybe the power is not giving enough power that is why it's not running properly.

Take note: If these miners are still under warranty much better don't disassemble these broken units instead contact the seller if where you bought this and tell them about your issue.


TWO

Edit: I've removed some of the irrelevant banter.

My KDB pool code reports ANY work generated that is ever empty, of the work generated once every 30 seconds over the years.
Over the life of my pool, that would amount to less than you can count on one hand.
This, of course, is the same work that is available to EVERY pool at the same time, not just my pool.

Generating work:
Quote
Most pools, I imagine work the same as here - we do a call to bitcoind to get a template that already includes all the transactions we will mine.
Some pools may manipulate the transactions in their pool code - but we don't.
It is possible for us to mine an empty block under very rare circumstances out of the pool's control.
But that has never happened here for the 2429 blocks we have found.

Those circumstances are: a pool generates work that contains all the known transactions on the network.
That pool (here or elsewhere) then finds a block. During that short time (30s or less) no other transactions are seen on the network.
Thus after submitting the block found, the next call to get a work template from bitcoind will have no new transactions.

I log whenever the work is empty - I think it's happened less times than you can count on one hand in 6 years
Thus during those very few rare events someone would have to have found a block to produce an empty block out of their control.
So yeah maybe less than half a dozen possible empty blocks in 6 years for all pools on the network - the rest are them doing it on purpose.

I make my bitcoin debug.log report the transaction information for each work it generates, and I can also see in the bitcoin debug.log what is available in the first work after any block change (VERY relevant example further below)

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"Mandatory" empty blocks have to do with the time between the last work generation sent to the miner that found the block, before finding a block, and the next work generation once your pool found a block.
The transactions that appear on the network during that time (or unused by the block, still in the mempool) decide it ...

It doesn't matter how big or how small my pool is, my pool is part of the bitcoin network and sees the same transactions as every other well connected pool on the network - though mine is most likely the most well connected of all pools

When a block change occurs, my pool will ALWAYS see every transaction that was in the block, that's how bitcoin works.
It will also see what transactions were left over and available to use mining for the next block, in the new work it will send out to the pool's miners.
This is the time gap/number of available transactions that decides if pools MUST generate an empty block with the new work they send to their miners.
This number is the "maybe" less than half a dozen in the past many years.

What the other pools do, to purposefully produce empty blocks, is to not use a template with transactions generated by bitcoind, but simply generate work based on the hash of the block just found on the network, and nothing more - they cannot include transactions in the work when they do this, since they don't already know which network transactions have already been included in the block they don't want to get the transaction details of.
i.e. they aren't verifying the full block before producing a new block work template for their miners.

This was the cause of the failed/incorrect fork by Bitmain and F2Pool in 2015 - they lost all their 5 or 6 blocks on that bad fork since they built new blocks, on a fork of the network based on an invalid block, produced by another pool that ignored the network rule changes.

You could probably force most of the current large pools onto an invalid fork by mining a block with an invalid transaction in it Tongue

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It takes less than 200ms from receiving a block in bitcoind, until it can produce a full new block template with transactions.
I have a message in debug.log when the block arrives with a timestamp to microseconds, another when it has been processed, and another when the pool has been sent the new work.

The largest block in the last 8 hours was 631950 it was 1783877 bytes.
bitcoind debug.log shows (as I mentioned)
Code:
2020-05-27 19:07:53.985131 ProcessNewBlock
2020-05-27 19:07:54.025189 Pre-allocating up to position 0x3000000 in blk02094.dat
2020-05-27 19:07:54.107985 UpdateTip: new best=000000000000000000067af76e3e524beabb9557f71413d8db9b88760e445d3b height=631950 version=0x20002000 log2_work=91.982404 tx=533594598 date='2020-05-27 19:07:33' progress=1.000000 cache=36.9MiB(236180txo) warning='75 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'
2020-05-27 19:07:54.108131 Block 000000000000000000067af76e3e524beabb9557f71413d8db9b88760e445d3b provided by 107.191.117.193:8333
2020-05-27 19:07:54.158265 GetBlockTemplate called
2020-05-27 19:07:54.160724 CNB
2020-05-27 19:07:54.174358 CreateNewBlock(): block weight: 3964486 txs: 122 of 10917 fees: 0.04177550 sigops 20166

Also of interest in this case, it had to extend some disk space for the block.

Total time from when it arrived until the pool got new work 19:07:54.174358 - 19:07:53.985131 = 189227 microseconds 189 milliseconds

As for empty blocks, the one I see in the last 8 hours is 631926 by ViaBTC
I'll include the block before as well for more information:
Code:
2020-05-27 16:36:48.892330 ProcessNewBlock
2020-05-27 16:36:48.913863 Leaving block file 2093: CBlockFileInfo(blocks=99, size=133620045, heights=631826...631924, time=2020-05-26...2020-05-27)
2020-05-27 16:36:48.914006 Pre-allocating up to position 0x1000000 in blk02094.dat
2020-05-27 16:36:48.950898 Pre-allocating up to position 0x100000 in rev02094.dat
2020-05-27 16:36:49.011947 UpdateTip: new best=00000000000000000010dab51e5208c538fce5634104fbd059da24140911efe7 height=631925 version=0x27ffe000 log2_work=91.981925 tx=533547943 date='2020-05-27 16:36:37' progress=1.000000 cache=14.5MiB(52565txo) warning='72 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'
2020-05-27 16:36:49.012075 Block 00000000000000000010dab51e5208c538fce5634104fbd059da24140911efe7 provided by 107.191.117.193:8333
2020-05-27 16:36:49.071051 GetBlockTemplate called
2020-05-27 16:36:49.071136 CNB
2020-05-27 16:36:49.088969 CreateNewBlock(): block weight: 3964991 txs: 1933 of 17715 fees: 0.18324281 sigops 13534
2020-05-27 16:37:08.482568 ProcessNewBlock
2020-05-27 16:37:08.490710 UpdateTip: new best=0000000000000000000f1b87afb1b95a5e681736ea387b60a8bd150b1ec8bb30 height=631926 version=0x3fff0000 log2_work=91.981944 tx=533547944 date='2020-05-27 17:06:23' progress=1.000012 cache=14.5MiB(52772txo) warning='73 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'
2020-05-27 16:37:08.568545 CreateNewBlock(): block weight: 3964339 txs: 1903 of 17821 fees: 0.21419789 sigops 13493
In this case firstly, you can see the block before, it was 20 seconds before it.
Secondly, in this case the work kano.is generated included 1933 transactions and fees: 0.18324281 BTC
However as can be seen from the next block on the block chain, it was only 315 bytes  ... instead of our "block weight: 3964991"
(You'll have to check the 315 bytes number on any block explorer to see it's an 'empty' block)
i.e. our work that miners were working on was a full block, but ViaBTC miners were working on an empty block when they found it.

It took 196639 microseconds to process i.e. 197 milliseconds

... and of course it didn't take 197 milliseconds longer than ViaBTC - they didn't process it in 0ms Tongue

You can run a bitcoind yourself and you can see this information - though you'll have to patch it and recompile it to display the extra information Smiley

I've been around in bitcoin since 2011 working on code related to it.
Working on mining code, pool code, and even simple patches to bitcoin itself.

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Now as to why not to mine on these "empty block" pools?

Well as is clear in all discussions about empty blocks, those pools don't fully process the block before sending out new work.
Thus they can fork bitcoin and cause all sorts of problems with exchanges and transactions, if the empty block they generate is based on an invalid block e.g. with an invalid transaction in it.

This occurred before in 2015 by Bitmain and F2Pool where they forked the bitcoin network and kept ahead of the correct fork for 5-6 blocks with a large % of the bitcoin network, until certain people contacted them and told them they were mining on an invalid fork (I contacted Bitmain ...)


THREE

easy to see taller psu and skinny controller case on the t17e the unit on the left.



this is the t17e



this is also the t17e



here they are mining



I will post numbers again.

but  t17e  seem to be in the 53-55th area.

the s17pro on low is about 43th

I have 2 measurements on power for the t17e   3356 watts and 3120 watts

the 3356 is on a killawatt style meter this reads high

the 3120 is on a pdu  the pdu reads low

so   3120/54th = 57.77 watts a th
and 3356/54th = 62.15 watts a th

57-63 watts a th range for a t17e

53-55th hash range

note a one speed unit.

the controller for the s17 and s17 pro is this one.

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=000201908151010180899X61guRp068C

the psu for the s17 and s17 pro is this one.
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=0002019072316001724716dkNtX50679

the label on the t17e psu reads apw9+
the label on the s17 pro psu reads apw9



FOUR

(Review/Guide) AvalonMiner 821 11.0 Th/s, 1200W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner

Click for a bigger version. Picture copyright (c) Canaan Creative.

1) General information, other items needed
2) Unpacking
3) Overview
4) Controller unit setup
5) Physical setup for the miner and controller
6) Configuration
7) Testing
8] Power consumption measurement
9) Conclusion
10) How to order


Last updated in: February 25, 2018.

Steemit blogging website:
https://steemit.com/review/@hagssfin/review-guide-avalonminer-821-11-0-th-s-1200w-bitcoin-sha-256-asic-miner

Nicely formatted version (February 25, 2018) is available for download here (Mega.nz cloud service):
https://mega.nz/#!Zl8zlRSZ!8JKeDllHjtBPUW3ctF3Rap-Dau4TqAVPR6Voy-bS4B0

1) General information, other items needed
(top)
AvalonMiner 821 is a Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner using 16nm ASIC chip technology.
It is manufactured by Canaan Creative (headquarters in Beijing, China).

This miner is a 8th generation AvalonMiner, and it uses a new generation 16nm Bitcoin ASIC chip called A3210.
This new generation ASIC chip makes this miner more power efficient than the previous, 7th generation AvalonMiners.

AvalonMiner 821 does not have a built-in controller included and you need a separate controller, AvalonMiner Controller or any of the Raspberry Pi versions to run it.
A nice feature in my opinion is that up to max. 20 AvalonMiners can be chained to be controlled by a Raspberry Pi controller unit.
This saves you some money with network infrastructure cost if you have a large mining operation.

AvalonMiner 821 weights 4.7 kg and outer dimensions are 370mm (L) x 150mm (W) x 136mm (H).
The nominal hashrate is 11.0 Th/s with a nominal power consumption of 1200 Watts.

This is a review and a unofficial setup instructions guide for the AvalonMiner 821.

Technical specifications:
Code:
AvalonMiner 821

Hash rate: 11.0 Th/s, -5% ~ +10%
Power consumption: 1200W, +0% ~ +20% @ 11TH/s, 25°C, 93% PSU Efficiency, 12V AC, Wall-Plug
Power efficiency: 0.109J / Gh/s Wall-Plug
DC voltage input: 12 ~ 12.6 VDC
ASIC chip type: A3210 (16nm SHA-256 ASIC chip)
ASIC chip quantity per unit (miner): 104 chips
Number of hash boards per unit: 4 hash boards
Cooling: 1x 120mm x 38mm 12VDC 2.7A fan; manufacturer & model: Delta QFR1212GHE (mounted in rear for a pull configuration).
Weight: 4.7 kg
Dimensions: 370mm (L) x 150mm (W) x 136mm (H)

Other items needed:
  • A server grade power supply with at least 8x PCI-E 6-pin connectors,
    every connector with a dedicated cable, preferably at least 16AWG wire gauge.
    I used a 1600W power supply called Sorcerer Power Supply Unit to power my miner.
    This is an official custom power supply manufactured by Canaan Creative.
  • C13 power cord suitable to your country's electrical socket
  • AvalonMiner Controller or Raspberry Pi.
  • 5V  2.4A USB wall wart for the Controller.
  • Micro USB cable between controller and the 5V 2.4A USB wall wart.
  • Ethernet cable to go from the controller to your router/switch.
  • Computer to set initial pool and configuration settings.

2) Unpacking (top)
I received this AvalonMiner 821 as a sample unit for this review.
It doesn't have the info label printed on it, but this is a ready mass production unit for sure.

Packaging was good as always with Canaan hardware.
Sturdy design and lots of foam to protect the miner.

Using DHL Express for the delivery was nice and fast.

The packaging principle pretty much goes along same principles as it was with the previous 7th generation AvalonMiner.
(See chapter 2 in this A741 review thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2588105).

3) Overview (top)
In these following pictures you can see the AvalonMiner 821, AUC3 converter and Sorcerer Power Supply Unit.
Click the picture to show a bigger picture. Pictures taken by HagssFIN.





   

I had pleasant previous experience buying hardware from official distributor Cryptouniverse, so I bought one Sorcerer Power Supply Unit from them for this A821 setup.

I bought a C13 to Type F (schuko) power cord for the power supply.
Please make sure that the C13 power cord has a high amp rating.

I also had to buy a wall wart for the controller unit and a Micro USB-USB A Cable.
Please make sure that the cable is a 'fast charging cable' with high amp rating.

Same as with the A741 review I did previously, I also did a disassembly for this AvalonMiner 821 unit and I took a ton of pictures.
The disassembly and assembly for the A821 is quite easy, only one screw driver (with Phillips screw head tip) is needed.
The miner design continues the same style as with previous AvalonMiner 7 generation and it is really sturdy and effective in terms of cooling effect.

AvalonMiner 821 disassembled. Click for a bigger version. Picture taken by HagssFIN.





4) Controller unit setup (top)
When it comes to the controller unit, you have two options:

1. You can use the AvalonMiner Controller.
Using it is very straight forward, because it is ready assembled and software is already installed on the Micro SD card.


AvalonMiner Controller. Click for a bigger version. Pictures taken by HagssFIN.

2. You can build one yourself by using a Raspberry Pi 3 and other supplies.

So in this next part I'm gonna show you how to build a controller by myself,
using a Raspberry Pi 3 single-board computer and some other supplies.

It's really easy to source these parts needed and I used my local electronics store to find these supplies.

Here is my shopping list:
• Raspberry Pi 3
• Transparent plastic case for the Raspberry Pi 3
• 8GB Kingston Micro SD card
• 5VDC 2.4A USB wall wart
• USB-A to Micro USB-B cable


Supplies. Click for a bigger version. Pictures taken by HagssFIN.

Here are the instructions for doing the controller setup from scratch.

Instructions:

1.
AvalonMiner Controller’s firmware supports the following types of Raspberry Pi single-board computer:
• AvalonMiner Controller (Canaan Creative)
• Raspberry Pi 1 Model B
• Raspberry Pi 1 Model B+
• Raspberry Pi 2 Model B
• Raspberry Pi 3 Model B

2.
A minimum capacity of 4GB memory card is required.
There is no requirement for brands, speed rating is recommended for Class 10.
(Please be select type of memory card based upon your selected Raspberry Pi model)

• Raspberry Pi 1 Model B and Model B+ using a SD card
• Raspberry Pi 2 Model B using a Micro SD card
• Raspberry Pi 3 Model B using a Micro SD card
• AvalonMiner Controller using a Micro SD card

3.
We need a SD card reader.
When you buy a Micro SD card, you want to make sure it comes with a SD card adapter.


Micro SD card with a SD card adapter. Click for a bigger version. Picture taken by HagssFIN.

Put your memory card to the SD card reader.


Integrated SD card reader in my PC case front panel. Click for a bigger version. Picture taken by HagssFIN.

4.
Depending on your Raspberry Pi model, select and download the firmware version.
Raspberry Pi 1 Model B Firmware:
https://canaan.io/downloads/software/avalon821/openwrt/latest/rpi1-modelb/openwrt-brcm2708-bcm2708-rpi-ext4-sdcard.img
Raspberry Pi 2 Model B Firmware:
https://canaan.io/downloads/software/avalon821/openwrt/latest/rpi2-modelb/openwrt-brcm2708-bcm2709-rpi-2-ext4-sdcard.img
Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Firmware:
https://canaan.io/downloads/software/avalon821/openwrt/latest/rpi3-modelb/openwrt-brcm2708-bcm2710-rpi-3-ext4-sdcard.img

5.
Install a tool for writing a image to SD card, if you don't have one installed already.
Win32 Disk Imager: https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/

6.
Open the tool software and select your SD card reader device letter.

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7.
First click the folder icon.
Then locate and select your downloaded Openwrt firmware for the Raspberry Pi.

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8.
Click Write, and then click Yes, to start writing your image.

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9.
Wait for the process to complete.

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10.
When the following message is displayed, your program was successfully written.

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Click ok and exit.

If you followed these steps successfully, your controller is initially completed.

5) Physical setup for the miner and controller (top)
Connecting everything together is quite simple, if you are familiar with ASIC miner hardware.
I tried writing these instructions simple as possible by using specific step pictures as help.

1.
Connect 5V power to the controller unit.

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2.
Connect Ethernet cable to the controller unit.

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3.
Connect the Micro USB-USB A cable and 5-pin AUC3 cable to the AUC3 I2C-USB communication converter unit.

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4.
Connect that Micro USB-USB A cable other end to the controller unit. You can use any of the four USB ports available.

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5.
Connect the other end of the 5-pin AUC3 cable to the miner unit.
If you have more than one miner unit, you can daisy chain max. five miners per one AUC3 converter
and you can connect max. four AUC3 converters to one controller unit.

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6.
Connect eight pieces 6-pin power cables with invidual cabling to the miner.
I would strongly advice using a server grade power supply with at least 1400W power capacity.
In this setup I'm using the official custom power supply unit, Sorcerer Power Supply Unit.
It is able to handle max. 1600W power capacity with 230V mains voltage electricity here in Finland.

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7.
Plug in the 5V USB wall wart to power on the controller unit.

8.
Connect a C13 power cord first to the power supply unit and then to the wall socket.
Make sure that the power switch in the power supply unit is turned on.


If you like a video tutorial better, there are two good A821 setup tutorial videos made official Canaan distributors Blokforge (Blokforge official channel)
and Cryptouniverse (video released in TechMagnet channel, presenter Stefan is the CTO of Cryptouniverse OG).

Blokforge tutorial video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8r0tbUmgCU
Cryptouniverse tutorial video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wa2L97ReOw

6) Configuration (top)
You can follow these instructions for the controller configuration:

1.
Connect the power to the controller, and make sure the controller and computer is configured to be connected to the same network.
(You can also use the controller connected directly to the computer with a network cable).

2.
The default IP for the controller is 192.168.0.100. The IP address of the computer needs to be adjusted to access the controller.

3.
Use your web browser to access “192.168.0.100”, and you will see the following login screen.

4.
There is initially no password, so you can enter after click Login Overview screen.

5.
You can click Configuration to configure your miners and see your pool information.
For example, you can set up three pools and corresponding miners with the default execution priority pool1> pool2> pool3.

6.
If you need to change the network settings for the controller, click on Network to configure, click Save & Apply, and then power down your unit, and manually restart the controller.

7.
After the configuration, change your computer back to the automatic IP address acquisition.

8.
If the controller is properly connected to the Internet, you can access different sections in the miner web configuration page, for example the Cgminer configuration page and the miner status page. As long as a miner is correctly connected via AvalonMiner USB Converter to this controller unit, you will see them on the overview page and see relevant information on these devices.

Canaan Creative controller instructions for the A721 and A741:
https://canaan.io/question/how-do-i-connect-an-avalonminer-721-and-avalonminer-controller-including-raspberry-pi-1-2-and-3/

These same instructions can also be applied in the A821 controller setup process.

7) Testing (top)
After I was ready with all the setups and configurations, it was time to test the miner.
Mining was started using the default settings.
The average hash rate was after close to two hours running time was 11.2 Th/s.




FIVE

extra) Testing different voltage offset values and writing down miner performance results
Note: This extra chapter is updated in February 25, 2018.
This is a second and successful attempt to test the voltage offset values.

To get the voltage offset value working, we need to put it as a Cgminer command
in the 'More Options' field found in the Cgminer configuration page.
Here is an example: "--avalon8-voltage-level-offset -2".
See more details in screenshot images below.

The original review was done with the default setting for the voltage offset, which is 0.
I will go ahead and test the miner with every available voltage offset value.

I will let the miner run for at least one hour and then I look at the results.

Just like with the previous AvalonMiner generation, it is possible to choose a value from -2 to +1 for the voltage offset.
Instead of changing the hash board frequency setting, AvalonMiner performance can only be controlled by changing the voltage offset value.

Quote from: Canaan Creative
In the Controller Dashboard, what does the Voltage Offset option do?

We added a Voltage Offset option for users because each AvalonMiner is different with each other because of the inclusion of so many high performance chips. The AvalonMiners are very sensitive with voltage, so the “Voltage Offset” option is used for tweaking the AvalonMiner’s voltage. If the miner works well, we suggest to not change the voltage.
And, the lower voltage offset, the lower power. So if the miner works well with -2, it just means the miner has better health.
Source: https://canaan.io/question/in-the-controller-dashboard-what-does-the-voltage-offset-option-do/

This time I was able to see difference in performance and power consumption value, when testing each different voltage offset value.
Power consumption was moving in about 1200 - 1300W area, and the hash rate was in 11.2 - 11.4Th/s area.

Best power efficiency results were achieved with the voltage offset value -2.

Please notice that these power consumption results are measured power at wall,
so the power supply power efficiency also has an effect in the result.

Voltage offset value    Hash rate (Th/s)    Power consumption (W)    Power efficiency (J per Gh/s)    
-2  11.2311950.1064
-1  11.2112220.1090
0  11.3612490.1099
+1  11.3912950.1137


Cgminer status page view and Cgminer configuration page view, when the voltage offset value is -2. Click for a bigger version.

Cgminer status page view and Cgminer configuration page view, when the voltage offset value is -1. Click for a bigger version.


Cgminer status page view and Cgminer configuration page view, when the voltage offset value is 0. Click for a bigger version.


Cgminer status page view and Cgminer configuration page view, when the voltage offset value is +1. Click for a bigger version.


Power consumption measurement, when the voltage offset value is -2. Click for a bigger version.


Power consumption measurement, when the voltage offset value is -1. Click for a bigger version.


Power consumption measurement, when the voltage offset value is 0. Click for a bigger version.


Power consumption measurement, when the voltage offset value is +1. Click for a bigger version.






SIX

Hi all, I took a big decision, I decided to release my custom firmware for the symbolic sum of 0.005BTC WITHOUT ANY DEVFEE as often requested by the comunity ... a single purchase, has unfolded unlimited!
I know that once released, he will browse the web, thank you to try to respect my work with a purchase or a donation there after;), 0.005btc is not much ... I'm going in the direction from the community and I did not include any hidden fees;)


HI ALL !!! After reflextion, i take big decision, and KILL ALL firmware S9 !!! not paid for me ? is not simpaty for my work, not problem, so, S9 is now old machine, i take with pleasure donate  Cool

Way for install this :
1 - you need unlocked firmware (before 2019) if not, downgrade by SD Card with T9+ firmware (see on bitmain.com)
2 - Install original firmware S9J mode low power/hashrate (containe the bmminer with full control coded, Yeah !!! error by bitmain)
3 - install my patch for take full control ! (contain bmminer not modified, if you want, open my patch and take only other files than bmminer by ssh for proof !) i included bmminer taked on S9J firmware only for more facility to flash on other miner)
4 - ENJOY !!! and thanks me lol

download link : S9 / S9I / S9J
- Original firmware for S9J (compatible with S9 / S9I / S9J) : https://easyupload.io/b2xgv5
- My patch (need flash S9J firmware before) : https://easyupload.io/5khk9p

download link : T9+
- Original firmware for T9+ ONLY : https://easyupload.io/1gr2dj
- My patch customised for T9+ (need flash flash T9+ firmware in the link for unlock all feature) : https://easyupload.io/tzzj55

Release :

- Compatible with S9 / S9I / S9J (auto or not) and (T9+ available by other files)
- ASICBOOST (On / Off)
- ORIGINAL Bitmain Firmware
- NO DEV FEE !!!
- OVERCLOCK / UNDERCLOCK
- Frequency control
- Voltage board control (By increment 5mv)
- FAN Fixed / Auto
- Show PCB temp
- No Problem on all pool supported AsicBoost
- Is original firmware, absolut no problem for reflash other original firmware
- Same perform with all other custom firmware, TAKE FULL CONTROL ! down to 75w/th and up to 18,5th








Do not ask me the sources, I do not have them, for the good reason that I work with a BMMINER of origin bitmain (drawn in a firmware), then bypassed the system via the other file ... nothing 'is hidden Wink

I am not a noobie here, have confidence in me;)

Ps : Kano, is for you !!! kiss !!! and now, all detractor, please stop broken my burns !!!  Cool


Donate :

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BTC : show on my firmware
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SEVEN

Hi all!

I know some people have had a problem with their T9 + who lost 2 hash board, especially after flashing the firmware Dollemizer! or build own bmminer by source code

What happens, the bad firmware erases the board DSPIC32 to reprogram them, but as it does not have the HEX file, it reprograms nothing, and therefore the chain is definitely lost!

I also had the problem after trying aa BMMINER custom that had exactly the same effect! so I got hooked on the question ... and HERE IS THE SOLUTION!

pre-requisite:
- a PICKIT 3 case
- MPLAB X IPE
- Bitmain HEX original file (pic32)

After :

1 - connect to the board, pin1 in front of the PICKIT arrow


2 - Connect on MPLAB


3 - Enter in advanced mode and take "power target circuit from tool"


4 - ERASE the pic (use if you sure that the hash board is hs)

Code:
Erasing...
Erase successful
2018-09-19 22:17:36 +0200 - Programming...

5 - Put in Hex File my Hex file extracted from good board (download here http://www.k-upload.fr/afficher-fichier-2018-09-19-103561fd6dspic33ep16g.hex.html ) or ( http://www.mediafire.com/file/mk8ivrax849ztxp/DSPIC33EP16GS202-ORIGINAL-T9%252B.hex/file )

Code:
Connecting to MPLAB PICkit 3...
Currently loaded firmware on PICkit 3
Firmware Suite Version.....01.54.00
Firmware type..............dsPIC33E/24E
Programmer to target power is enabled - VDD = 3,250000 volts.
Target device dsPIC33EP16GS202 found.
Device ID Revision = 4003
DEVSN0 = 00000000
DEVSN1 = 00000000
2018-09-19 22:16:21 +0200 - Hex file loaded successfully.
Loading code from C:\Users\xxx\Desktop\Firmware antminer D3 et L3+\pump firmware T9+\Prog PIC\DSPIC33EP16GS202.hex...

6 - "Program" and wait !

Code:
Programming...

The following memory area(s) will be programmed:
program memory: start address = 0x0, end address = 0x1dff
Programming/Verify complete
2018-09-19 22:18:13 +0200 - Programming complete

once the cards flash with PicKit, do not forget to reflash the minor with official firmware bitmain before reboot the minor ...

to do this, do it before you flash the card, or just connect the controller card (without the hashboard) and flash the official firmware, power off the miner, reconnect the hashboard and turn on again.

Essenciel is that the first start after flashing the board is done with an official firmware on the minor (with hashboard connected) otherwise the problem will come back immediately..

Now your board is reprogramed ! and working !!!

For any advice or request do not hesitate! Wink

If you like it;)
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EDIT : FREE GIFT ! for no error / brick your miner after compile your own code for bmminer

Modifi this "define" to "undefine" on the bitmain code on "driver-btm-c5.H" (the effect : no flash pic)
Code:
241 #define ENABLE_RESTORE_PIC_APP          // if enabled, will restore PIC APP when the version is not correct!!!



EIGHT

As an example for setting minimum speed of 10% and max of 30%, under More Options use
--avalon8-fan 10-30
Full list of A8 commands:
Code:
USE_AVALON8
OPT_WITH_CBARG("--avalon8-voltage-level",
    set_avalon8_voltage_level, NULL, &opt_set_avalon8_voltage_level,
    "Set Avalon8 default level of core voltage, range:[0, 15], step: 1"),
OPT_WITH_CBARG("--avalon8-voltage-level-offset",
    set_avalon8_voltage_level_offset, NULL, &opt_set_avalon8_voltage_level_offset,
    "Set Avalon8 default offset of core voltage level, range:[-2, 1], step: 1"),
OPT_WITH_CBARG("--avalon8-freq",
    set_avalon8_freq, NULL, &opt_set_avalon8_freq,
    "Set Avalon8 default frequency, range:[25, 1200], step: 25, example: 800"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-freq-sel",
    set_int_0_to_7, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_freq_sel,
    "Set Avalon8 default frequency select, range:[0, 7], step: 1, example: 7"),
OPT_WITH_CBARG("--avalon8-fan",
    set_avalon8_fan, NULL, &opt_set_avalon8_fan,
    "Set Avalon8 target fan speed, range:[0, 100], step: 1, example: 0-100"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-temp",
    set_int_0_to_100, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_temp_target,
    "Set Avalon8 target temperature, range:[0, 100]"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-polling-delay",
    set_int_1_to_65535, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_polling_delay,
    "Set Avalon8 polling delay value (ms)"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-aucspeed",
    opt_set_intval, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_aucspeed,
    "Set AUC3 IIC bus speed"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-aucxdelay",
    opt_set_intval, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_aucxdelay,
    "Set AUC3 IIC xfer read delay, 4800 ~= 1ms"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-smart-speed",
    opt_set_intval, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_smart_speed,
    "Set Avalon8 smart speed, range 0-1. 0 means Disable"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-th-pass",
    set_int_0_to_65535, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_th_pass,
    "Set A3210 th pass value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-th-fail",
    set_int_0_to_65535, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_th_fail,
    "Set A3210 th fail value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-th-init",
    set_int_0_to_65535, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_th_init,
    "Set A3210 th init value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-th-ms",
    set_int_0_to_32767, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_th_ms,
    "Set A3210 th ms value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-th-timeout",
    opt_set_uintval, opt_show_uintval, &opt_avalon8_th_timeout,
    "Set A3210 th timeout value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-th-add",
    set_int_0_to_1, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_th_add,
    "Set A3210 th add value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-th-mssel",
    set_int_0_to_1, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_th_mssel,
    "Set A3210 th mssel value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv2-th-add",
    set_int_0_to_1, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv2_th_add,
    "Set A3210 lv2 th add value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv2-th-ms",
    set_int_0_to_32767, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv2_th_ms,
    "Set A3210 lv2 th ms value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv3-th-add",
    set_int_0_to_1, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv3_th_add,
    "Set A3210 lv3 th add value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv3-th-ms",
    set_int_0_to_32767, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv3_th_ms,
    "Set A3210 lv3 th ms value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv4-th-add",
    set_int_0_to_1, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv4_th_add,
    "Set A3210 lv4 th add value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv4-th-ms",
    set_int_0_to_32767, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv4_th_ms,
    "Set A3210 lv4 th ms value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv5-th-add",
    set_int_0_to_1, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv5_th_add,
    "Set A3210 lv5 th add value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv5-th-ms",
    set_int_0_to_32767, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv5_th_ms,
    "Set A3210 lv5 th ms value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv6-th-add",
    set_int_0_to_1, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv6_th_add,
    "Set A3210 lv6 th add value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv6-th-ms",
    set_int_0_to_32767, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv6_th_ms,
    "Set A3210 lv6 th ms value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv7-th-add",
    set_int_0_to_1, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv7_th_add,
    "Set A3210 lv7 th add value"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-lv7-th-ms",
    set_int_0_to_32767, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_lv7_th_ms,
    "Set A3210 lv7 th ms value"),
OPT_WITHOUT_ARG("--avalon8-iic-detect",
    opt_set_bool, &opt_avalon8_iic_detect,
    "Enable Avalon8 detect through iic controller"),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-nonce-mask",
    set_int_24_to_32, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_nonce_mask,
    "Set A3210 nonce mask, range 24-32."),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-nonce-check",
    set_int_0_to_1, opt_show_intval, &opt_avalon8_nonce_check,
    "Set A3210 nonce check, range 0-1."),
OPT_WITH_ARG("--avalon8-roll-enable",




NINE

Thanks, -ck.

The simplest solution to the port problem that I can think of is to let the pool's stratum server listen on port 80 instead of port 443. This frees up port 443 for the web server to use for HTTPS traffic. This makes a bit more sense anyway, since port 80 is intended for unencrypted HTTP traffic, and the stratum protocol is itself unencrypted. Outgoing connections to port 80 are also usually allowed by default in most firewalls.

One downside to this approach is that visitors to the pool's website would have to manually add the https:// prefix to the pool's web address every time they enter it into their browser's address bar, because the pool's web server can't listen on the occupied port 80 to redirect them to port 443—unless the pool's website is (a) included in the HSTS preload list and/or (b) incorporates the EFF's HTTPS Everywhere rulesets to allow visitors using the HTTPS Everywhere browser extension to be automatically directed to port 443. The upside to this approach is that you do not need to configure the web server to forcibly redirect unencrypted HTTP requests to HTTPS URIs.

If you prefer to reserve port 80 for the pool's web server to use, then another simple solution would be to let the pool's stratum server listen on port 53 instead of port 443. This frees up both port 80 and port 443 for the web server to use. Port 53 is meant for unencrypted DNS traffic, and so outgoing connections to port 53 are also usually allowed by default in most firewalls. This approach requires you to configure the web server to forcibly redirect unencrypted HTTP requests to HTTPS URIs. Registering the pool's website on the HSTS preload list and incorporating HTTPS Everywhere rulesets remain highly recommended when using this approach.

A more complicated solution that doesn't involve setting up an additional network interface with additional IP addresses on the same machine, would be to terminate TLS connections at a HAProxy instance on a cheap VPS that in turn relays web traffic to and from the upstream web server (ideally encrypted, over a private network). Upsides to this approach include (a) allowing you to leave the pool's current setup on the dedicated server mostly untouched, and (b) freeing up the pool's dedicated server from not only having to manage TLS connections with web clients, but also from having to manage web traffic with clients at all. The downside to this approach is that it involves more effort and money to set up and maintain, because you would have to manage two servers instead of one.

And then there's setting up an additional virtual network interface with additional IPv4 and IPv6 addresses on the same machine, and binding the pool's stratum server to one virtual interface and the web server to another. This seems quite straightforward in concept, but I do not have any experience with this approach, and so I can't say much about it, nor can I recommend it with confidence. It does seem cheaper and simpler than setting up HAProxy as a reverse proxy on another VPS, though.



TEN

Why all miners need to mine on a pool that pays them the tx fees.

Quote

That  is a really hard question to answer.

But  I see only BTC  in trouble   as the math is dead solid  correct   that  BTC can  have fee rate jacked up with ease.

Do I mine at Zpool  yes  not BTC
Do I mine at NiceHash yes not BTC
Do I mine at Miningpoolhub yes not BTC

At the moment  BTC  has  an easy way to  manipulate fees  by the top Six pools

the math is there.

You can argue that mining with

 https://pool.viabtc.com/pool/btc/profit/ALL/

that they pay  back some of the fees.  all of the coins above 100%  is some of the fees.

So to make sure  I am not feeding the fee monster and not getting killed by variance.


I mine 2 s-9s on viabtc.--------- no variance
I mine 2 s-9s on mmpool. ------ high variance



If alot of miners  did this  problem goes away
and you will not get crushe with high fees or high variance.

so ˝ on viabtc pps ---------- no variance
˝ on kano-------------------- high variance

or ˝ on viabtc pps ---------- no variance
˝ on mmpool---------------- high variance

or
˝ on viabtc pps --------------no variance
˝ on ck's pool ----------------high variance


any pattern like the one above

would be helpful




Date   Hashrate   Total Profit   Unit Output(TH/s)   PPS Profit   PPLNS Profit   SOLO Profit   PPS+ Rate
2017-12-26   22.844T   0.00166932   0.00015943   0.00135316   0.00031616   0   118.43%
2017-12-25   22.541T   0.00377373   0.00016741   0.00290061   0.00087312   0   124.9%
2017-12-24   22.719T   0.00425017   0.00018707   0.0029248   0.00132537   0   139.5%
2017-12-23   22.555T   0.00494303   0.00021915   0.0029121   0.00203093   0   162.95%
2017-12-22   22.510T   0.00536606   0.00023838   0.00289729   0.00246877   0   177.8%
2017-12-21   22.788T   0.00492021   0.00021591   0.00294698   0.00197323   0   160.28%
2017-12-20   22.867T   0.00415326   0.00018162   0.00294023   0.00121303   0   135.61%
2017-12-19   22.492T   0.00376132   0.00016723   0.00289554   0.00086578   0   124.7%
2017-12-18   22.656T   0.00438107   0.00019337   0.00341745   0.00096362   0   123.07%
2017-12-17   24.742T   0.0046689   0.00018870        0.00377236   0.00089654   0   118.81%
2017-12-16   27.328T   0.00523549   0.00019158   0.00415086   0.00108463   0   121.08%
2017-12-15   27.102T   0.00501499   0.00018504   0.00412332   0.00089167   0   116.76%
2017-12-14   27.754T   0.00533809   0.00019233   0.00420781   0.00113028   0   121.78%
2017-12-13   27.653T   0.00518566   0.00018752   0.00419169   0.00099397   0   118.76%


As you see above  they do pay some back extra.

The math for excluding   this style of mining  on their pool is not as compelling.

I run 2 s-9's there see above
I run my other 2 s-9's here


http://mmpool.org/statistics
Estimated Payout

Rank...Id........DGM Estimate......PPS.....................   Shares.............   Rate (MHash/s)
1   a5d78fff   9.74241459   0.00000000   130,161,014,576_____   0

2   71602a00   0.43753559   0.00000000   20,405,489,465______   23,917,084

3   2d0ba29d   0.21326891   0.00000000   12,671,491,314______   5,583,990
4   c932f3ed   0.23847335   0.00000000   11,985,725,219______   0
5   5e935067   0.05308415   0.00000000   3,806,752,856_______   13,209,683
6   433aa491   0.07248369   0.00000000   3,183,604,233_______   1,072,527
7   0f7b9499   0.03441520   0.00000000   2,603,052,116_______   0
8   d7ec4cdf   0.02936538   0.00000000   2,460,009,494_______   5,852,435
9   8dae603b   0.02509840   0.00000000   1,746,057,383_______   0
3914  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: أيه أسرع LN, LTC, Dash؟ on: May 31, 2020, 09:47:24 PM
اعتقد ان المسابقة هي اسرع عملية شراء وليس اسرع تحويل, يعني ان سرعة استعمال الموبايل ومواصفته لها دور بالغ الاهمية في نتيجة المسابقة, منطقيا لايمكن ان تكون Dash اسرع من LN لان LN  تعتبر عملية فورية لا تقع على البلوك تشين نفسه والتاخير كلها يكون في وقت ال propagation واعتماد على جودة اتصالك بال Node الاخرى, لا اعتقد ان الوقت سيتجاوز ال 2-5 تواني, ايضا المقارنة ليست عادلة ابدا لان LN لا تعني ان التحويل قد تم على شبكة البتكوين الا بعد اغلاق القناة وهدا ياخد 10 دقائق في المتوسط , اما في عملة داش ياخد دقيقتين و 36 تانية, ولكن مايميز داش انه لايمكن عمل انفاق مزدوج Double Spend لانها تعتمد على Masternodes وتقوم بمنع RBF او Replace by Fees لذلك لا تحتاج الى اي confirmation ولكن طبعا هدا النظام الذي تتبعه ايضا عملات غيرها يعتبر خطير لعدة اسباب يطول شرحها.

ومن ثم انه يوجد عوامل اخرى مثل الذي ذكرها الاخ Suptiele, فالسرعة لاتأتي مجانا ويجب التخلي عن الحماية, والعملة الافضل هي تلك التي تصل الى مزيج بين عامل السرعة, التكلفة والامان.

شكرا على الموضوع الشيق.
3915  Economy / Reputation / Re: LoyceV vs theymos (and get your own Merit graph: up to 20 users per graph) on: May 31, 2020, 09:05:00 PM
Time for a stupid Meme:


If the meme is accurate then I'll stick to cap, it represents me better, ya I remember the WO bros call it a hat, been a while since I visited the WO thread, i am too old to catch up with it.

he should make some good posts

I am willing to bet that if he does, he will beat theymos merit wise in a few hours.


Good job guys, keep the merit race going.
3916  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 255 blocks solved! on: May 31, 2020, 03:34:59 PM
Ok guys, lets do our first  solo round, after the halving.
Now that diff. Adjusted in our favour, our chances of finding a block are higher.

You might want to collect the funds now, but only rent the hash power in the next epoch, about 4 days to go and we will probably get a 10% drop in difficulty so that is huge, diff is still pretty hight at this stage, also asicboost seems to offer cheaper rate like 90% of the time, so maybe use that instead of the regular sha256 algorithm, just my 2 sats.
3917  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 255 blocks solved! on: May 31, 2020, 02:58:34 PM
@bache_plus can you try telnet, if one of 3333 or 443 is reachable for you? This is what you should see if target port is reachable

Thanks for bringing that up, tried to telnet to both ports and everything seems fine, tried on putty too and the connection seems fine, the weird thing is that the miner sees the pool difficulty but the miner shows dead, none of the ports is blocked, ckpool server is reachable, but the miner won't mine, I asked him to flash a different firmware, no luck, so i assumed that his gear is incompatible with ckpool, but he mentioned having the same problem with a different miner and a different router!, I will remote log-in to test the other miner tonight or tomorrow (whenever he contacts me) to gather more details.
3918  Economy / Reputation / Re: LoyceV vs theymos (and get your own Merit graph: up to 20 users per graph) on: May 31, 2020, 12:34:31 PM
Quote from: mole0815 link=topic=5099167.msg54534769#msg54534769
Maybe just to put me at the bottom of the list? Sad Grin

Lol nice one, i tend to like this theory.

1miau the cat is losing it's power, maybe it is about time for a WO cap? i can ask fillippone to get you one, or maybe we got two for a discount?  Tongue
3919  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer T17 will only hash on 2 boards on: May 31, 2020, 10:35:48 AM
2020-05-31 01:38:46 temperature.c:203:is_temp_sensor_type_correct: Wrong temp sensor type, chain = 0, sensor = 6, type = 0x0, retry.
2020-05-31 01:38:46 temperature.c:203:is_temp_sensor_type_correct: Wrong temp sensor type, chain = 0, sensor = 6, type = 0x0, retry.
2020-05-31 01:38:47 temperature.c:203:is_temp_sensor_type_correct: Wrong temp sensor type, chain = 0, sensor = 6, type = 0x0, retry.
2020-05-31 01:38:47 temperature.c:203:is_temp_sensor_type_correct: Wrong temp sensor type, chain = 0, sensor = 6, type = 0x0, retry.

This confirms my previous wild guess, you have a faulty heatsink/chip, don't let the kernel log deceive you, the chances of 4 sensors going down at the same time are less than your chances of hitting a block with an old Nokia, can you take out the board and apply some pressure on all the heat sinks and then put it back in the miner and power it on, this might (with a low probability) fix the issue for some time, but eventually, it will stop hashing again, one or more of the chips or heatsinks need re-soldering sadly, if you are interested in doing so I can post some tutorials and the tools needed for the task.

Also, you could try a custom firmware to see if you get any luck, some people reported some positive results in that regards, use Asic.to for testing, I guess with that firmware if it manages to read 1 sensor at least, the board will hash away with whatever asics it finds, sometimes once you get the board to work for a while on different firmware, going back to the original firmware will make it work too, as strange as it sounds, it happens.
3920  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Strange Error In Miner on: May 31, 2020, 07:40:39 AM
At this time, the best methode is extract only "cgminer" and "cgminer-api" (taken on fixed freq firmware) and past on new miner if ssh is actived Wink

Do you see what I did there? that is a big if since almost all firmware versions from Bitmain come with ssh disabled, also not everyone has what it takes to move cgminer and API to another miner using SSH commands, only a handful of people can do that, I am looking for an easy way for the average joe.

... if you know how to, please tell me ! :p

This is your specialty so if you don't know, I most certainly don't  Cry, who else besides you and taserz know about this stuff? maybe we could reach out to them to see if they can help.
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