PS: Vielleicht jetzt nochmal konkret:
Ich habe im Zeitraum April-Mai 2013 für 10 kEUR in diversen Trades BTC gekauft und im Dez. 2013 exakt für 10 kEUR BTC verkauft.
Nach EÜR wären Einnahmen minus Ausgaben gleich 0 und ich müsste keine Steuern zahlen. Nach FIFO-Methode müsste ich - ach Hossa das ist ja -eine Menge an Steuern zahlen??? Kann doch nicht sein... Oder???
Dein Gewinn entspricht je gerade den Bitcoins, die jetzt noch übrig sind. Hm? Bitcoins sind doch kein Gewinn. Höchstens Inventar, oder? Ich weiss nicht. Bitcoin-Handel "gewerblich" zu versteuern scheint mir gefährlich und undurchsichtig. Ich würde das als privates Veräußerungsgeschäft versteuern... und zwar nach LIFO-Methode (falls diese einen groß genugen Vorteil gegenüber FIFO bietet), zumal die Kohlen wohl über dein privatkonto geflossen sind. |
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PS: Vielleicht jetzt nochmal konkret:
Ich habe im Zeitraum April-Mai 2013 für 10 kEUR in diversen Trades BTC gekauft und im Dez. 2013 exakt für 10 kEUR BTC verkauft.
Nach EÜR wären Einnahmen minus Ausgaben gleich 0 und ich müsste keine Steuern zahlen. Nach FIFO-Methode müsste ich - ach Hossa das ist ja -eine Menge an Steuern zahlen??? Kann doch nicht sein... Oder???
Doch. Ich gehe jedenfalls davon aus, auch wenn dieser eine Typ von Frag-den-Anwalt.de auch angedeutet hat man solle 'ne EÜR machen. Es ist laut meines Steuerberaters auch vertretbar LIFO zu machen. Das war jedenfalls auch mein Plan bevor wir auf die Idee mit den getrennten Depots kamen. |
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Hier muss ich mal kurz zwischenrufen: mein Steuerberater wusste auch nix von Bitcoins. Jetz weiss er so einiges darüber. Es zeichnet ihn aus, daß er die Geduld hatte das alles mit mir durchzueruieren und ein guter Steuerberater muss dies meiner Ansicht nach auch tun (wird es sich natürlich auch bezahlen lassen, klar). Aber dass ein Steuerberater keine Hilfe ist, das stimmt so nicht. Ansonsten stimme ich deinem Post voll zu. |
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So how was Berlin?
Pretty cool. Alena and slush held a very nice presentation. I enjoyed both the talk and the Q&A session. Many of my questions were answered (mostly after the talk) and my understanding of the trezor deepened. I even got to play with one during the event... more info everything I tested worked. I tried... initializing the trezor (worked), wiping the trezor (worked), restoring the trezor from the backed-up seed (worked), receiving money (worked), sending money (worked), reloading wallet (after wiping local storage) from trezor (worked), firmware upgrade (worked).
There were some minor hickups with the webwallet (related to backend, according to slush fixed by now) and some not-so-minor problems (bus resets) with my USB stack on that microsoft hardware. Those were not trezor-related, though. Summarizing I can say this is a extremely well thought-out device. Also very sexy! Good things come to those who wait. |
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The alts/usd on btc-e are looking really cheap this week.
Why panic when you can lower your average cost?
I tend to agree. However people saying "don't catch a falling knife" have a point. |
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They're really trying to push to Bitcoin as hard as they can ;-)
haha, yeah. If there's a 10% across-the-board bailin in Europe (I doubt it), hold on to your coins, it's going to be wild as never before. |
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Launching a new beta blockchain explorer for Auroracoin http://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/Note that this is completely new tech, not based on ABE or other existing explorers. cool! is it... opensource? |
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I'll panic sell at 6$ a coin.
lol, I'll panic buy your coins at that price And I'll panic-buy yours when you cut your losses at $0.80 |
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1 BTC = $1,000,000 means 100 satoshi = $1.00. All Bitcoin submultiples could be finally put to use.
Satoshis foresight really is amazing, isn't it? |
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this removal of newbie section, removed the filter that was helping to reduce random comments of panic, scamming and offtopic ramblings Makes me wish this forum was set up like Reddit with upvoting /r/bitcoin isn't much different, though |
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it seems to me there should be a key system.
I'm not sure. In germany for example we have a national id card that is able to sign messages (smart card). Maybe they have something like it, too. |
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Hurry up! The price is rising!
It's high time to buy now!
good call |
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IBTCM could do a lot for Bitcoin.
IBM? lol... maybe I lack imagination. But what are you suggesting? |
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It might take some time for the general public to forget about MtGox and other negative stories.
Im sure when more big companies start accepting BTC this attitude will change.
Some of my classmates (note I'm studying engineering and I'm in my second year, and I was allowed to choose my classmates this semester so they are not dumb by any means) said I made a huge mistake having invested so much money in bitcoin and tought I lost all my money because mtgox went bankrupt. I had to explain them that mtgox actually had little to do with bitcoin because most people who were serious about bitcoin avoided mtgox like the plague anyway. Cool story. Then what happened ?  This will have to be continued after we break the old ATH. |
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maybe you should use a bigger font, I just can't, for the love of my life, read this. |
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Can the developer specify which address holds the 50% premine? Or has it already been sold out or planning to be dumped?
The addresses are published on http://auroracoin.org/blueprint.php |
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wowz almost 45BTC raised for dorian. nice nice  What if he does not want them? lol. he will get fiat anyway. Andreas will trade the coins end of march. |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=504103.0 Ok Balduro ==> Please remove KGW. I prefer a multipools comeback http://www.geistgeld.org/  If there is a problem with KGW, then just adjust the diff after every block, problem solved? I never understood the need to "smoothen" the diff changes. I think you miss the point of the attached forum post. The poster is threatening to attack the Auroracoin blockchain once KGW is implemented. Its really just a notice, yet the action is threatening to anyone holding a bag of icecoin. I wouldn't be surprised tho, if this was all just an orchestrated effort to decimate Aur price so he can buy in...  lolz! not alot of info out there on how to put air into cold storage...any tips would be appreciated. Not that I think it will be really necessary, it seems the threat is not really that real. But simply backing up your wallet.dat to USB and stop using that wallet ager block 5400 will do the trick. You can setup another wallet to keep doing your things meanwhile, keeping your wealth in the address of your cold wallet... guys you are on the wrong track about this attack. It's a time-warp attack that is supposed to screw up the difficulty calculation afaik. Cold-storage wont help and isn't necessary. |
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