Has anyone seen the movie, The Sunset Limited? I caught the end of it the other day and was amazed by how much of what Tommy Lee Jone's character said resonated with me. I put together a few quotes from the movie. (Not too sure about the exact order it was said in.) <edit> Found a short Youtube clip of this. Enjoy. The Sunset Limited - Ending Scene Did Tommy Lee get an Oscar? Some real life people understand it even better than he says it. Jesus says that He is the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. For a long time I didn't understand what that really meant. But Isaiah 65:17,18 explain it very well: Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind.
But be glad and rejoice forever in what I will create,
for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight and its people a joy.
I will rejoice over Jerusalem and take delight in my people;
the sound of weeping and of crying will be heard in it no more. In other words, the only things that will be left of this whole universe will be the things found in Jesus. He is the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. There isn't any middle, the time that exists now, the universe that exists now. Now will be gone in its entirety. Where's the justice in it all? Does anyone really know? Can anyone really explain it? Those who really want to be gone are welcome to be such. All they need do is ignore or downplay God/Jesus. Me, I would rather live. I would rather be in the new heavens and new earth, filled with joy. For you, your call.  |
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Look at all the fun you have had in your life. And you want to allow others to deny that to still others? Have a little mercy.
In some customs people wear black and 'mourn' when a baby is born, and wear white and rejoice when someone dies, because they believe life is suffering. Or is it because they left God when they were born here, and are going back to God when they die. |
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Trusting god has a reason for it is not comforting. Trusting Jesus is the son of god or that he died for our sins seems ludicrous to me. There is just no need for any of it.
Accepted. Accepted by God. You have chosen. God still allows you time to change your mind. But, whatever you do, He abides by your choice, willingly. |
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Well I personally am fine with abortion, and there really is no way to judge whose idea is right or wrong unless we're going by the bible. The eternal hell isn't a valid argument, just trying to scare people into believing. I don't need a savior, doing just fine, thanks Have a little mercy. Look at all the fun you have had in your life. And you want to allow others to deny that to still others? Have a little mercy. EDIT: You don't need a savior? Does this mean that you know for a fact that you are going to live forever without one? Until the fetus is able to sense things it's just the same as having never been created IMO. No woman should be forced to give birth to something that she doesn't want. It could have been from rape, a broken condom, or she just thought she was prepared but backed out at the last second. I think we should value the life of a human more than a clump of cells that can't feel anything. Even when it can feel, it does not have a right to life until it is able to live on it's own. It's like a vampire that you're letting consensually suck your blood, if you want it to stop then you have a right to make it stop. I don't support abortion, I support the right of a woman to choose what is right for her body and life. (flaming in 3... 2... 1...) I don't think I'm going to live forever without one, I think I'm going to be dead after that final burst of DMT wears off and my brain is inactive. Same as before I was born. I completely agree with human rights. We should not harm others. But where the choice is between a woman and her fetus, it is two lives, even though they inhabit much of the same space. That lump of cells is not as unfeeling as one might think. |
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Well I personally am fine with abortion, and there really is no way to judge whose idea is right or wrong unless we're going by the bible. The eternal hell isn't a valid argument, just trying to scare people into believing. I don't need a savior, doing just fine, thanks Have a little mercy. Look at all the fun you have had in your life. And you want to allow others to deny that to still others? Have a little mercy. EDIT: You don't need a savior? Does this mean that you know for a fact that you are going to live forever without one? |
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i'll take two. Our women are degenerate enough to replace them with this.
LOL ! Where in the world are you that your women are that bad?  |
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God told us how to act - one simple rule in the Garden - don't eat the one kind of fruit. We listened to the devil - a formerly good angel who corrupted himself - and caused our own destruction by eating the fruit.
Why would god create something (the fruit of knowledge) only to deny us it? Why would god create an angel only to cast it into hell? This is insane, at the very least sadistic. The simple answer is, without freedom to choose something that was not allowed, man could not be nearly as great of a being as God had in mind for him. So, are you going to continue to fight God, and deny yourself, along with denying the true greatness that you could be? Or are you going to change, and choose to not resist God like those who ate the fruit in the Garden and became corrupted within themselves? Are you now going to finally choose to be on God's side, with Him in greatness or not? Your call. But like the two in the Garden, the choice is still yours. |
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Burn baby burn!  FEMA camp here we come. |
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I'm going to keep this as short as possible. I've come to the realization that I am not an atheist. I am actually antitheist, since I am repulsed by the thought of there being a god character responsible for bringing things like suffering, horror and despair into existence. A god capable of creating any existence could have created it to be perfect or 'heavenly' in the first place. Therefore I find the god character loathsome and despicable. Even the (agnostic) uncertainty of god's existence and intentions is in and of itself taxing, like a form of cancer. This is why people of faith believe without question. Yet a god wanting to have a relationship with its creation obviously wouldn't be so ambiguous. So you see, the idea of there being no god is by far more preferable to me than the idea of there being one, since if there is one I could not despise it more. Have a nice day. God didn't do that. God was so loving that He gave to many kinds of creatures life, and He gave to the angels and to people part of the greatness that He is. He gave us freedom. God told us how to act - one simple rule in the Garden - don't eat the one kind of fruit. We listened to the devil - a formerly good angel who corrupted himself - and caused our own destruction by eating the fruit. Now, God provides almost the only method possible to exist for saving us - His Son, Jesus - and so many of us still think God is bad, that God creates the evil, that God wants to harm us. Please, for your own good, stop rejecting the only salvation that there is. Turn to God for the help He so willingly offers. God is not against you. God is in your favor, trying to help you. But you simply won't let Him. |
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*lol* Im sorry for the german.
dank... i know which people you mean. Unfortunately you wont find someone who really can do this. Even the big guru's that claim they can do it were found cheating. So as of now i dont see a solution.
What i wrote in german is: Living only to die? I guess that even is true for every human. I think its important what you do with the time you get. Its not nice if one has to die young and maybe even didnt had a nice life of course.
I see it philosophical. Practically every lifeform only survives because it devours other life. As long as the cow cant show me, that she can life without devouring the life of grass and plants, i have to see it as a necessary evil of life. Noboday survives without taking other life! It would be nice if it would be different but it isnt.
I know who you're talking about but don't let one speak for all. There is the man who went 16 days in a medically supervised study without water. He was surveyed 24/7. There is something to it. Death isn't a requirement of existence, rather a byproduct of life on earth. I'm not saying it's wrong to eat, just that it's somewhat of a fallacious practice. If you can see, you are the universe eating the universe. Silly isn't it? Refer to my avatar for an illustrated example of oroboros. (Didnt realize that when I picked it). I'm just saying that just because we feel the need to eat today, doesn't mean we will tomorrow. There's infinite love in the universe, plenty of energy for all. Thanks for the reply. In the New Testament in the Bible, Jesus talks about his church like wheat, planted in the field. He talks this way on several occasions. He even talks about the harvest of the people of earth, at the end of the age, that will be done by the angels. Do you think that maybe God planted us here so that He can harvest us on the last day, and eat us after we are in Heaven with Him? Jesus uses this kind of thinking in a metaphorical way. What does it really mean? Maybe it was a way to explain to not yet enlighten beings the concept of the structure of the universe? "From dust to dust" This could be a way to explain very simply the nature of things? We don't see dust creating life. Even less possible to study or see it 2000 years ago. You cannot observe this. Now we know what we call reality is a cloud of uncertainty...Although to the cloud of atomic uncertainty defined as Wilikon good chicken always tastes like good chicken. That also is part of a rich, emotional life Now I'm hungry for chicken, and all I have is hamburger. |
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Oh, BitChick. You have such a nice way of saying things. You always remind us that we need not take the burden of the world on our shoulders, but that God has already done that through Jesus, His Son, our Savior. Thanks. |
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So much BS in this I couldn't help but make a giant response
Having 100% faith is different. So is knowing something for a 100% fact. One hundred percent faith is blind faith. One hundred percent fact is no faith at all.
The reason that God gave us the Bible is that most people can't live on 100% faith. Life is based on cause and effect, at least the way we perceive it. Simply living throws us out of faith some, and into looking for facts to back things up. If we were required to have blind faith in God, we would all fail.
You still have blind faith in the bible, there is absolutely no way to know the accuracy of what was written. Every religion has a holy book, what makes yours valid and theirs not?
Nobody knows anything as 100% fact. Sometimes we think we do. But we take even the most factual things in life on faith at least a tiny bit. In many of my previous posts in this thread, I have pointed out why evidence for God is way stronger than evidence for there not being any God. So, what's the big deal about 100% true (fact)? Our knowledge of such doesn't exist.
Actually, there are many things we know as 100% fact. We know we're not going to go floating away because of gravity, we know that cause has effect, we know that mass x velocity = force, etc... If we didn't know anything for sure the computer you're typing on right now wouldn't exist
One of the primary reasons that anyone spreads his truth is as you say. We'd have a lot of lonely evolution scientists out there if they couldn't spread their "truth" to other lonely evolution scientists.
Actually they spread it because we're trying to evolve as a species and understand our universe better, unlike religious people trying to stay in the dark ages. Everything we have found so far points to evolution, and nothing towards the christian idea of intelligent design. While I am interested in reactions, I am also interested in people knowing the truth. Part of the way to get people to know truth is getting them to react and respond on something.
Consider kids in school. School isn't very interesting when all the professor does is profess. There needs to be interaction, often so that the professor can learn exactly which area of his expertise people need to know about more so that they get a better picture of the truth.
That's probably a very big truth. God doesn't want people preaching a bunch of nonsense around the world. That's why I and a few others sit tight and study... just so that there are a few of us that know the bottom-line truth.
No, there's so few of you that are stupid enough to believe in a book of fairy tales that contradicts everything we have observed And you have a really hard time understanding that the real reason people pick on my responses and myself is, that they don't really have any logical responses for my arguments.
It hurts to be wrong, and to know that someone has showed you up. And it hurts even more to know you are wrong, but to NOT know WHY you are wrong... to feel like you have had your very base ripped out from under you. And that's the exact thing I have done to the atheists in this forum who have thoroughly read my comments here.
Oh man, this is rich. You have /no/ logic whatsoever, every post you make is full of fallacies, false information, and straight up ignoring facts. I've read through all of your comments, and they're moronic. There is nothing convincing in them, nothing that hasn't already been debunked, and the majority of it was just preaching about your sky-daddy.
What else can they do than to fight back any way they know how? After all, they don't have any God who teaches them any morals (they think). So they are allowed to make their own morals, or to have none, if they so desire. So, they act like the beasts, and fight back, rather than to simply lick their wounds, and try to remain friendly.
I love how you're pretty much admitting here that without your holy book you would probably act like a beast. We have morals because we're decent human beings, because of societal rules, and because jail sucks. A few of them like S.Boxx remain cordial, maybe even friendly. It's kind of sad to see how many people accept the alternative ideas of things like evolution, big bang, and atheism... ideas which are alternative to the truth. These ideas are not alternative to the truth, yours are. There is no evidence whatsoever for your beliefs and a ton for ours. Actually, you do quite well for someone who obviously doesn't have the ability to analyze evidence, and come to a conclusion that approximates reality. |
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If you dont like it why dont you just leave the country.
Where can I go? There are many countries with better governments than the US. Bahamas, Costa Rica, Turks & Caicos, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Ireland, Marshall Islands...etc. Here is a list of countries and their tax rates. Several of which have zero taxes (but what about the roads!?!?). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_ratesThat's the biggest deception of our life: do we really believe that "taxes" pay for roads building/maintenance? I really don't think so. Who pay for road building and maintenance then? Who pays for the telephone infrastructure and maintenance? Quantitative easing, eternal debt and all the rest of it pay taxes QE and eternal debt are simply methods for creating new money. Since the money is created like this, there is no need for taxes, except to keep the common people poor and enslaved. EDIT: I'll stick to my counter argument at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=865980.msg9615320#msg9615320 . |
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*lol* Im sorry for the german.
dank... i know which people you mean. Unfortunately you wont find someone who really can do this. Even the big guru's that claim they can do it were found cheating. So as of now i dont see a solution.
What i wrote in german is: Living only to die? I guess that even is true for every human. I think its important what you do with the time you get. Its not nice if one has to die young and maybe even didnt had a nice life of course.
I see it philosophical. Practically every lifeform only survives because it devours other life. As long as the cow cant show me, that she can life without devouring the life of grass and plants, i have to see it as a necessary evil of life. Noboday survives without taking other life! It would be nice if it would be different but it isnt.
I know who you're talking about but don't let one speak for all. There is the man who went 16 days in a medically supervised study without water. He was surveyed 24/7. There is something to it. Death isn't a requirement of existence, rather a byproduct of life on earth. I'm not saying it's wrong to eat, just that it's somewhat of a fallacious practice. If you can see, you are the universe eating the universe. Silly isn't it? Refer to my avatar for an illustrated example of oroboros. (Didnt realize that when I picked it). I'm just saying that just because we feel the need to eat today, doesn't mean we will tomorrow. There's infinite love in the universe, plenty of energy for all. Thanks for the reply. In the New Testament in the Bible, Jesus talks about his church like wheat, planted in the field. He talks this way on several occasions. He even talks about the harvest of the people of earth, at the end of the age, that will be done by the angels. Do you think that maybe God planted us here so that He can harvest us on the last day, and eat us after we are in Heaven with Him? Jesus uses this kind of thinking in a metaphorical way. What does it really mean? |
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Why destroy nature? Nature is perfect.
Find a girl and have sex with her. Man is not going to create something better than that. Man's creations are imperfect, for we are just replicating the perfect processes of nature.
Dank you're totally missing the point. Robots are not made to replace love relation but to replace illegal prostitution. There is no love when you fuck little kids or beaten-prostitutes for money and no, nature is not "perfect" or "beautiful" that's only an opinion. This is gross, robots don't love.
This is just masturbation. It will never replicate making sweet love with a lady.
repeat after me all a pussy can do is fuck you a pussy cannot love you say that 10K times Why are you so misogynistic? Because he's a cunt. Because he's over frustrated and probably gay but cannot admit it. Do you think someone that rapes kids will stop raping kids so he can pretend to instead? Remove money and prostitution is obsolete. There are other solutions. Some of the rapists are the highly intelligent governmental and banking people. Remove money and they would simply replace it with other money. That's why we need something like Bitcoin, to make faulty fiat "francs" disappear while keeping the benefits that money provides for us all. Think about this. As long as Bitcoin is not allowed more than the 21,000,000, it will remain a valuable commodity in high demand. One of the reasons is that, it will always decrease in numbers from folks who lose, or otherwise never access, their wallets again. This will always keep the value on the rise. The big spike that we saw, where the value went to $1,242 per bitcoin, happened because of a collectors craze at the same time that the Dollar value was down. Bitcoin value will always rise as long as it exists. |
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Probably the topic title should read: "Seals are raping penguins and scientists... don't know why?" And the answer is probably the simplest. Penguins, just like many women, are out looking for something bigger. And the scientist, always eager to get the most accurate data, want to experience it in the full. Your way of understanding the title is what made me read twice before really understanding what was really happening. Remembered me the "man that enters an active volcano" topic title. Meant that part of it as humor. But do you think the other part is for real? The penguins wanting bigger, I mean? Yeah I know. But no, the idea here that I got that it's rape, not like penguins really want it. Since penguins aren't strong or fast on earth, there isn't much escape from a seal. But what makes the seals wanting intercourse with a smaller animal, and even worst, an mammifer on an avian, I don't really know. And I just can't imagine how it can fit in. We had an answer for the fitting-in thing, for a short while. I didn't see who posted, but then he/she deleted. The basic thing that they said is that egg-laying animals often have a big *fancy-word-for-hole* where the eggs come out, and so it is big enough to use in an incorrect manner by other, bigger animals. |
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Thanks for your encouragement, BitChick. So far, in this forum, it is really fun to be able to show people the truth. They are basically nice people. Just look at the things S.Boxx has to say. His (her?) encouragement and concern are wonderful, even if he/she is a little backward in the way he says it. I am happy for your successes in India. I haven't had the opportunity to do something like that... travel with an outreach or medical group. Maybe I simply haven't made my opportunity. Lots of churches say that you can't receive Jesus without hearing God's Word. Personally, I am coming to believe more and more that it is in the heart through nature that you first hear Jesus... not the Bible. What I mean is this. If God hadn't held back the destruction when Adam and Eve ate the fruit, everything would have collapsed back then. We don't know what it would have been like to have children in a sinless state, because it never happened. Even though little children and fetuses have sin in them (they are physically flawed in their DNA), it is the power of Jesus that they are living in from their start. In other words, all people hear Jesus throughout their fetal life, and for the first few years as children, even though they are gradually being corrupted by sin, and the hearing is becoming dull. The point is that ALL hear Jesus, not only those to whom the Bible is read (although most reject who have not heard the Bible because they haven't received the confirmation of God working through His Word, and they have become deaf to their original fetus and little-child training from nature). I know that I have opened up a lot of folks in this forum to alternative ideas. It's evident from the way some of them pick on me. Oh well. They are the ones that have to live with themselves. Thanks, again. And blessings on YOUR work. Oh God. I know, I know. I should have PMed her. Sorry about that. So far, in this forum, it is really fun to be able to show people the truth. You realize it's a contradiction to have faith in something and then claim something is 100% true, right? If you have faith in something, that specifically means that you aren't (and can't be) 100% certain that it's the truth. Epic fail. You and I both know that the primary reason why you spread the "truth" is because you're seeking recognition for something. The truth is just never as fun, interesting, or beneficial unless someone else believes the same things that you do, am I right? This is a rhetorical question. But actually, you basically confirm this yourself when you then say: Having 100% faith is different. So is knowing something for a 100% fact. One hundred percent faith is blind faith. One hundred percent fact is no faith at all. The reason that God gave us the Bible is that most people can't live on 100% faith. Life is based on cause and effect, at least the way we perceive it. Simply living throws us out of faith some, and into looking for facts to back things up. If we were required to have blind faith in God, we would all fail. Nobody knows anything as 100% fact. Sometimes we think we do. But we take even the most factual things in life on faith at least a tiny bit. In many of my previous posts in this thread, I have pointed out why evidence for God is way stronger than evidence for there not being any God. So, what's the big deal about 100% true (fact)? Our knowledge of such doesn't exist. One of the primary reasons that anyone spreads his truth is as you say. We'd have a lot of lonely evolution scientists out there if they couldn't spread their "truth" to other lonely evolution scientists. Just look at the things S.Boxx has to say. His (her?) encouragement and concern are wonderful, even if he/she is a little backward in the way he says it. You don't care one bit whether people know the "truth" about anything. You're interested in reactions. While I am interested in reactions, I am also interested in people knowing the truth. Part of the way to get people to know truth is getting them to react and respond on something. Consider kids in school. School isn't very interesting when all the professor does is profess. There needs to be interaction, often so that the professor can learn exactly which area of his expertise people need to know about more so that they get a better picture of the truth. Maybe I simply haven't made my opportunity. God probably doesn't want someone running around preaching a bunch of nonsense all over the world  That's probably a very big truth. God doesn't want people preaching a bunch of nonsense around the world. That's why I and a few others sit tight and study... just so that there are a few of us that know the bottom-line truth. I know that I have opened up a lot of folks in this forum to alternative ideas. It's evident from the way some of them pick on me. Oh well. They are the ones that have to live with themselves. You have a really hard time understanding the difference between correlation and causality. We're not picking on you because you have exposed us to alternative ideas, we're picking on you because you're proud to be wrong about things and proud to be a complete asshole to others because they don't believe the absurd things that you do. And you have a really hard time understanding that the real reason people pick on my responses and myself is, that they don't really have any logical responses for my arguments. It hurts to be wrong, and to know that someone has showed you up. And it hurts even more to know you are wrong, but to NOT know WHY you are wrong... to feel like you have had your very base ripped out from under you. And that's the exact thing I have done to the atheists in this forum who have thoroughly read my comments here. What else can they do than to fight back any way they know how? After all, they don't have any God who teaches them any morals (they think). So they are allowed to make their own morals, or to have none, if they so desire. So, they act like the beasts, and fight back, rather than to simply lick their wounds, and try to remain friendly. A few of them like S.Boxx remain cordial, maybe even friendly. But yes, your ideas are very "alternative"...like if there was an "alternative" reality with an "alternative" form of logic that is mutually exclusive from our own.
It's kind of sad to see how many people accept the alternative ideas of things like evolution, big bang, and atheism... ideas which are alternative to the truth. |
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Probably was working so hard on Bitcoin that he didn't get any sleep, fell asleep at the computer, fell off his computer chair, whacked his head on the floor, got amnesia. His wife, who doesn't have a clue that he was involved with Bitcoin, partially because she is not techy minded, doesn't even realize that her husband in the psyche ward is the guy everyone is looking for. |
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I didn't check out the story or trial at all, but... Standard law in America, if a defendant wants to invoke it is... 1. You have the right to face your accuser, not his lawyer... 2. There has to be an injured party... 3. There has to be a witness or very strong evidence that it was you who injured the one injured. Were these present at the trial? Probably. But maybe not. Who accused him? If it was only the State/Federal, there was no damaged party accusing him. If he were smart enough to apply law the way it could be applied, he just might get out on mistrial. But, like I said at first, I haven't followed it at all. |
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