I think the extreme versions of both Christians and Atheists are both a little odd. I can't understand the logic in either direction and usually find myself somewhere in between. Atheists like to point to the fact that Christians really don't know anything but what the Bible supposedly says happened and do so using Science as their weapon. "Real" Christians seem to think anyone not following the Bible word for word is a lost soul and needs to be saved using the Bible as their weapon.
Atheists believe their master, Science.
Christians believe their master, God.
I believe God(s) exists but I can't bring myself to believe, word for word, a collection of books & writings that has been compiled starting sometime 3,500 years ago (or however many years it is speculated) has somehow made it to modern times intact with the same information it was attempting to relay.... Let alone whether the information was even started off accurately or was passed between people multiple times before it was written into the book we call the Bible. I guess I don't have that much faith in us as humans?
There are several kinds of science. For example. There's a chemistry science where you throw a certain amount of known chemicals into a beaker, add some acid, and you get a reaction. This reaction is the same every time, simply because you control all the elements. Most Christians have NOTHING WHATSOEVER against this kind of science. There is, also, a kind of science where you throw a bunch of chemicals into a beaker, add some acid, and you get a reaction. The difference with this process is, that there were a bunch of unidentified and unidentifiable chemicals already in the beaker. Since you knew there were a bunch of unidentified and unidentifiable chemicals already in the beaker, you did your science test behind a protective wall, mixing the chemicals with robotic arms, so you don't get hurt if the thing explodes. This second kind of science is the kind that evolutionists and old-earth scientists do. The things they don't know about the mix in the beaker are all the things that they don't know about the past that might have happened. The wall these scientists hide behind is the wall of the little word "if" in their papers. They say, " IF things in the past were such and such, and so and so, then evolution happened like we think it did, and the earth is 13 to 14 billion years old." The scientists are reasonably honest. They say it like it is. They say " IF." Even the universities that help them publish their papers are reasonably honest. But the governments, the politicians, the people who want to control society by building a big fat lie out of the scientific papers, are saying that the things that the scientists have discovered are "true, true, true." And the scientists and universities don't want to embarrass themselves (or lose their government subsidy) by countering what the politicians say, so they go along with it. And now we have a bunch of lies and potential lies published in the textbooks and encyclopedias all around the world. If you want to believe what someone says, check your sources. It's a difficult thing to do with science, and impossible to do with the Bible (except in a general way). But, if you want to go to the trouble of seeing the truth in science, you ABSOLUTELY CAN with the scientific papers. Just don't become confused by all their mathematical mumbo jumbo, math that can be twisted every which way, often to prove things are mathematically true in directions that are opposite of each other... but we, the lay person will never know, because we don't understand higher math. Consider, Big Bang, evolution, and chaos are still THEORIES, at their base, and in the pure scientific meaning of the word "theory." But because these and others are often touted as truth, they have become religion, with the politicians as "god," and the scientists and universities as high priest. Let's get science back into the practical, and out of the stupid "daydreams," so that the engineers can build more gizmos and gadgets to help us in our way of life.  |
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The Pope should start obeying the God that he acts like he believes in. |
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Fees are low. But if somebody does a lot of transferring, he's going to figure out a Bitcoin wallet transfer mechanism, based on the blockchain. Consider, I have a paper wallet in my pocket that is worth 5 bitcoins. You have a "Watzit Gadget" that you want to sell to me for 5 bitcoins. I hand you the paper wallet. You hand me the Watzit Gadget. You change the password on the wallet in your client. No fee! When the fee gets too steep, we'll have the next order of Bitcoin. Somebody will put together a method, not for trading bitcoins, but for trading wallets, with no fee involved. |
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Police departments (gangs) across the land were created by big business to protect big business... not the people. Big businesses are often run by the crooks. Petty crooks and gang members are finding that if they join the police department gang, they can do their "ganging" more or less legally, and what's not legal is protected, anyway. People need to change their city councils and mayors. People need to change their neighborhood watches into neighborhood gangs, to protect themselves from the police gangs. |
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Why should IRS are the only organization to have this kind of authority. Why cant we, the bitcoin community make our own lawsuit to fight against government.
Because we don't rob people by force. Actually, the process for overcoming the IRS is method for living. In other words, how many people work for the IRS, or support family and friends using IRS pay? And what about the Congress who won't make themselves knowledgeable enough to show us that the IRS is a company just like any other company? While most of us don't rob people by force, we DO work within the system, many leaders of which DO rob people by force. Our jobs use funds we receive as pay from them, and we support their activity of robbing people, not by force, but by sneaky "theft." And we do it out of ignorance. How do we know that we are ignorant? The United sates has a total land and water area of about 9,826,630 - http://www.enchantedlearning.com/usa/states/area.shtml. Yet, we allow ourselves to be crammed into big cities that use only a miniscule fraction of the land area. And we tell ourselves that we have to do it for a job. And the job supports all kinds of corporation "crooks and thieves" who rob us just enough so that we can't get out of the big cities and enjoy our lives. Rather, we are forced to stay and play their game... by our ignorance. |
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Just give it up.
The religious retards dont know what evolution is and refuses to read up on it.
Refuse* Damn, I hate it when people use the word "retard" to describe someone else with terrible grammar. LOL !  |
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The serious side of the voices in the caverns thing is this. Does anyone remember in the Apostles Creed, where it says, "He [Jesus] descended into hell?" This is talking about the 3 days that Jesus was in the grave after he died on the cross, before He arose from the dead. The word "Hell" has several meanings in the Bible. One of them pertains to a place of torment after the final end - the lake of fire in Revelation. Another is simply the grave. A third is a special "holding cell," where especially virulent and spiritually powerful people are sent, at death, because otherwise they might be able to affect things in THIS life right from the grave!Saint Paul explains that Jesus went down to this last Hell to preach to the spirits of certain of the dead. The particular dead mentioned, were those who had lived in the days of Noah, but had died in or before the Great Flood. While we don't, yet, have any conclusive evidence about what these people were doing back at the time before the Flood, they were probably certain people who: 1. Had used quantum entanglement to manipulate people (Consider The Silva Mind Control Method); 2. Were powerful in their use of quantum entanglement; 3. Had built a worldwide network of corrupt trading exchanges (probably the thing we know as Atlantis); 4. Were NOT knowledgeable enough about QE to use it to keep themselves alive in the Flood; 5. Were powerful enough that their spirits just might be able to reach out from the grave if they were not held at bay in the special kind of hell cell they are in. Jesus went there to preach to them about their big mistake, that they thought that they could find eternal life without the help of God, on their own, using quantum entanglement (QE use, my idea). Jesus, however, is the only one who can use quantum entanglement correctly enough to grant eternal life both, to Himself, and to any of those to whom He decides to grant eternal life. People attempt to do all kinds of things. There are those of our day who are trying to gain eternal life on their own. There are, of course, many who simply turn their backs on the whole idea, and simply decide to die. Some who try to live forever on their own, will try/are trying the quantum entanglement method (many without realizing that this is what they are using). Some of these might succeed in keeping themselves healthy enough that they could live for several hundred years if the earth lasts that long, yet. Others use their QE to become wealthy, retain riches, by more or less enslaving other people. Wherever you happen to be in life, if you are inclined to use quantum entanglement for your own benefit, remember to use it in conjunction with the knowledge that you are not good enough at it to live forever by it. Keep your focus on Jesus, use QE only for good, and be ready to freely hand over any QE strength that you have to God, on a moment's notice should He call to you. If you aren't ready to do this, you may lose your very essence to the final dissolution of all material and energy, done in the lake of fire, at the final end of this universe. The end might be here much sooner than we think. The serious side about the voices in the cavern is that they are proven to be manipulated sound clips ripped from a movie made in 1972: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well_to_Hell_hoaxFeeling humbled yet? Very. But anybody who is humbled has hope when they recognize that fact. It's those who are humble or humbled and don't even recognize it who are more miserable. |
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The serious side of the voices in the caverns thing is this. Does anyone remember in the Apostles Creed, where it says, "He [Jesus] descended into hell?" This is talking about the 3 days that Jesus was in the grave after he died on the cross, before He arose from the dead. The word "Hell" has several meanings in the Bible. One of them pertains to a place of torment after the final end - the lake of fire in Revelation. Another is simply the grave. A third is a special "holding cell," where especially virulent and spiritually powerful people are sent, at death, because otherwise they might be able to affect things in THIS life right from the grave!Saint Paul explains that Jesus went down to this last Hell to preach to the spirits of certain of the dead. The particular dead mentioned, were those who had lived in the days of Noah, but had died in or before the Great Flood. While we don't, yet, have any conclusive evidence about what these people were doing back at the time before the Flood, they were probably certain people who: 1. Had used quantum entanglement to manipulate people (Consider The Silva Mind Control Method); 2. Were powerful in their use of quantum entanglement; 3. Had built a worldwide network of corrupt trading exchanges (probably the thing we know as Atlantis); 4. Were NOT knowledgeable enough about QE to use it to keep themselves alive in the Flood; 5. Were powerful enough that their spirits just might be able to reach out from the grave if they were not held at bay in the special kind of hell cell they are in. Jesus went there to preach to them about their big mistake, that they thought that they could find eternal life without the help of God, on their own, using quantum entanglement (QE use, my idea). Jesus, however, is the only one who can use quantum entanglement correctly enough to grant eternal life both, to Himself, and to any of those to whom He decides to grant eternal life. People attempt to do all kinds of things. There are those of our day who are trying to gain eternal life on their own. There are, of course, many who simply turn their backs on the whole idea, and simply decide to die. Some who try to live forever on their own, will try/are trying the quantum entanglement method (many without realizing that this is what they are using). Some of these might succeed in keeping themselves healthy enough that they could live for several hundred years if the earth lasts that long, yet. Others use their QE to become wealthy, retain riches, by more or less enslaving other people. Wherever you happen to be in life, if you are inclined to use quantum entanglement for your own benefit, remember to use it in conjunction with the knowledge that you are not good enough at it to live forever by it. Keep your focus on Jesus, use QE only for good, and be ready to freely hand over any QE strength that you have to God, on a moment's notice should He call to you. If you aren't ready to do this, you may lose your very essence to the final dissolution of all material and energy, done in the lake of fire, at the final end of this universe. The end might be here much sooner than we think. |
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That's why Obama sent troops rather than doctors and nurses to Africa to fight ebola. If they find anyone with ebola, they are supposed to shoot on sight and burn the bodies. These troops must know that they can never come back. |
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There's no such thing as free energy because that's not how the laws of physics works, there is however plenty of cheap energy, everything has a cost and has to come from something especially when you try generating electricity, the problem is people who declare free energy don't think about what they're saying that much which is why it gets thrown around so often especially in politics. I think the term you might be looking for is "unlimited" energy? I wouldn't think there was unlimited either really, because even plentiful resources are finite but I could be proven wrong on that point but we haven't discovered anything that is truly unlimited yet. i agree with lethn. There is no such thing as unlimited energy because we have limited resources. There is a point where anything would come to an end. Even the stars that produces great amounts of energy would suddenly come to its end and explode. and there would be no free energy because the businessmen and the government wont allow it. They wont have income from it and they cant control it. They want money and power thats all Sounds like some government big business person making a statement. I agree with lethn, as well. There's just gotta be a limit to energy. Not that we will see it for the next 13 to 14 billion years, of course. |
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I like this answer from cocos ▼▼▼ The problem with the theoretical physicists is that they make a theory and they expect the nature to obey to this theory. This is nonsense.
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The only place on earth that could have a bottomless pit would be the center of the earth, where gravity would pull equally in all directions. So, maybe the Russians accidentally opened up part of the pit that goes DOWN, down, down, down... to the "bottom."
Shouldn't you be in church reinforcing your brainwashing?  The centre of the earth is a solid iron core. Surrounding that core is molten metal. We know this because we haven't been fried by the sun's radiation. Wow! This is the greatest piece of evidence you have offered so far! It's that, that, your head is full of some of the solidified iron that you brought back up the last time you were down there. Hmmm. Maybe I'm not so far off. The Revelation says that the devil will be released from the bottomless pit sometime. Hmmm. It is more likely that some aliens that were playing "Cops and [Devils]" decided to make things a little more visceral and dig-out some caverns. And then they played back some recordings of some of the folks (demons) down in the bottomless pit with the devil... just for the Russians with the heat-proof microphone. |
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The only place on earth that could have a bottomless pit would be the center of the earth, where gravity would pull equally in all directions. So, maybe the Russians accidentally opened up part of the pit that goes DOWN, down, down, down... to the "bottom."
Shouldn't you be in church reinforcing your brainwashing? The centre of the earth is a solid iron core. Surrounding that core is molten metal. We know this because we haven't been fried by the sun's radiation. Wow! This is the greatest piece of evidence you have offered so far! It's that, that, your head is full of some of the solidified iron that you brought back up the last time you were down there. Hmmm. Maybe I'm not so far off. The Revelation says that the devil will be released from the bottomless pit sometime. Hmmm. |
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America is best because, it has the best form of common law among the people, where the people could individually, easily put down all government agencies attacking them in any way. It is worst because there are only a hand full of people that know how to use it... the common law of the people, that is.
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Using money is very unnatural. So anyone who thinks we shouldn't do unnatural things, please stop using bitcoin and leave this forum, lest you keep being tempted to do things that are unnatural and not in god's design.
what human civilizations have not organically arised a money medium of trade no matter how geographically separated? Money isn't the problem. Trusting other people - like banks - to keep it for you is stupid. Look at what the IRS can do with your bank account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835738.0. |
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I think the bible needs to be updated... It was written as guidlines on how to live 2000 years ago ~~ People following this book with 100% heart are very stupid.
here aren't any people following it like this >>> 100% heart. |
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According to legend, in 1989 a team of Russian scientists who were operating under the direction of Dr. Azzacove drilled a hole that was nine miles deep in an unnamed place in Siberia before breaking through into a cavity. Intrigued by this unexpected discovery, they lowered an extremely heat tolerant microphone, along with other sensory equipment, into the well. They listened and recorded (purportedly) the tormented screams of desperate people. The second surprise was the high temperature that they discovered at the earth's center, which was over 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. The conclusion was that they had opened a hole into Hell.
In the Bible, the Revelation, there is such a thing called a bottomless pit. This is where the devil (dragon) is cast and kept for a thousand years. The only place on earth that could have a bottomless pit would be the center of the earth, where gravity would pull equally in all directions. So, maybe the Russians accidentally opened up part of the pit that goes DOWN, down, down, down... to the "bottom." |
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You can convert the electricity to heat but the electrons themselves are not heat. You must go again to school and learn the real physics. "I believe that all mathematical physicists should be hanged from the highest trees and telephone poles available. If the laws forbid this, or it messes up the landscape, then we should institutionalize the whole lot of them. But keep in mind that there aren't enough funny farms to hold so many idiots. I'm so upset that relativists hold the reins of power that I think that I'll just go and read the newspaper to cool off..." "Bill Gaede" Source: http://www.youstupidrelativist.com/You mean the mathematical physics that make possible the device you are using to spout nonsense? I understand the math that makes the pnp, or npn junctions possible in your cpu, but this math is wrong? You can't convert things to heat, heat is a process not a state. You don't increase the heat of something, this is non-sensical, literally it doesn't make sense. You can increase the kinetic energy of the particles, or the potential energy of the electrons through a process called heating. Compressing a gas increases its temperature, you haven't heated it, why? Transferring a fluid from one area to another doesn't create fluid, it simple moves it. Heat is the transfer of energy, it is not energy. The energy itself is thermal energy, which in part is the quantum energy levels of the bound electrons. At absolute zero, the electrons collapse to the lowest energy levels and fill their shells. You are confused, uneducated and wrong. I have an MSc in applied physics with emphasis in solid state. You? However, not all practical application understands this (this = standard physics). There is an area of quantum mechanics that suggests that working with mathematics and scientific testing is the thing that produces the results, because the scientist is either looking for the results, or his subconscious is looking for the results, or possibly, because the subconsciouses of many people are looking for the results. It's something like in medicine, where you give a bunch of patients sugar pills rather than the medicine, and like, over 30% get the same or better effects than those taking the medicine. Once the results have been produced, it is very hard to contradict the results and produce other, different results. Why? Because a scientist who is trying to do this has already been convinced - at least subconsciously - that the results produce are the only ones able to be produced. Once in awhile a strong-willed inventor produces something like perpetual motion. On a regular basis, he gets out way more energy or force than he puts in. And his invention virtually runs itself. Yet, his work can't be duplicated, simply because those who try to duplicate it simply "know" that it can't work like that. At the same time, the inventor, because he "knows" that his thing works, keeps on getting working results. There hasn't been enough testing with QM along these lines to ascertain how this works. In fact, because of the complexity involved in this area of science, testing along these lines is just starting. One of the reasons for the lack of testing is, modern science almost refuses to believe that there is such a thing as consciousness, conscience, soul, and spirit. If you look through TED Talks at http://www.ted.com/talks/browse, you will find that modern science is gradually stepping out of its own self-inflicted "dark ages," and is starting to look at the reality of non-physical, human interaction with the world around us, human interaction done using the mind directly, activated by the soul and spirit rather than thought and logic alone. |
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The Great Flood of Noah's day was only about 4300 to 4400 years ago. Since that flood wiped everyone except Noah's family from off the earth, that means that the currency system isn't more than that old. In addition, the currency almost assuredly wasn't used by Noah. What would he use it for? Any barter he did, would have been between him and his children and grand children, etc. Who needs money for that? Probably the oldest money system that we could connect to is way less than 4000 years old. I don't think a worldwide flood wiping out all but one family a little over 4000 years ago is exactly the consensus view forged through rational analysis of the available historical data these days. You need to remember that the archeologists are paid by their university, etc., that is controlled by the political community, that tells them what to tell us, just so that they can remain in power. |
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