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3921  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins to revolutionize insurances on: January 19, 2013, 06:02:41 PM
Hi Rassah,

I disagree on some points:

Few concerns:

1) Insurance works because everyone pays into a pool, and the pool has to follow this formula:
Sum of all premiums paid through the year = Sum of all claims during the year.
Who will be in charge of the pool of money, and calculate the required premium amount? (Currently that's done by high-level specialists called actuaries)
No.
premiums paid = claims collected + savings + salaries + bonuses (+ …)

Yes.
You are just nitpicking. Savings and salaries are not needed for insurance to work, and originally wasn't part of insurance. The very first historical instances of "insurance" was farmers who were taking their produce down the river, splitting their goods evenly across all the farmer's boats. If one boat went down, they all still had their remaining food in the rest of the boats. You could look at it as them paying a premium (10% of their total contents in the sunk boat) to cover the rest of the produce (90% in the remaining boats). Maybe you could set up something like that, I don't know.

2) What is to prevent the judges from colluding with the claimant and taking as much money as possible?
The judges money is limited as per my OP. The judges decisions become public record, so you could allow others to send help messages for an ongoing case. Payout could be delayed by 3 days during which people curious about these public anyway cases may through in further random judges (at the expense of a $500 help message).

I didn't see anything regarding limits on payouts for damages. What's to stop someone for claiming a $20,000 claim on a $500 damage, and spreading the money among the judges? Why would other people be curious about something as boring as someone else's insurance claims?

3) Insurance has skilled adjusters that evaluate the damage, look for any signs of fraud, and submit the info to a team that researches how much it actually costs to restore what was damaged
Yep. Therefore judges may hire such adjusters or not. Adjusters cost money. Sometimes a less than 100% fair process is better for almost all participants. As nobody has to use this insurance, fairness is a selling point and no absolute necessity.

Hire them with what? Part of that $100 they get? I don't think so Tongue


These 5 judges would get compensations. If you think $100 pp is the wrong number to get started (they may decide on getting more from the public pool. The $500 is just the guy in trouble's money) pick a better number.
I don't buy insurances to not have any trouble at all but to not get into trouble that ruins me for life or even costs my life cause the surgery was too expensive.

Yes, that's what insurance is for: to make you whole after a loss.  I think $100 is the wrong number to get started. It may be enough for some judges, and way too little for others. How do you set a rate? More so, there's still the problem of lack of skills, and likely not knowing whom to hire. You could end up hiring a scammy adjuster or someone in cahoots with the person seeking compensation. How do you prevent that?
I just see way more problems with this than solutions for things like property insurance.
3922  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins to revolutionize insurances on: January 19, 2013, 03:58:27 PM
Few concerns:

1) Insurance works because everyone pays into a pool, and the pool has to follow this formula:
Sum of all premiums paid through the year = Sum of all claims during the year.
Who will be in charge of the pool of money, and calculate the required premium amount? (Currently that's done by high-level specialists called actuaries)

2) What is to prevent the judges from colluding with the claimant and taking as much money as possible?

3) Insurance has skilled adjusters that evaluate the damage, look for any signs of fraud, and submit the info to a team that researches how much it actually costs to restore what was damaged

4) Biggest one - people who buy insurance do so because they don't want to worry about having to deal with issues, and are paying for the service of someone taking care of them when they get in trouble. This 5 members thing sounds like it would be really unpopular, in the same way that being called out to jury duty would be unpopular. Not having the skills or the knowledge to do this work aside, people are typically already really busy, and don't want to take on yet another job.
3923  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'd like to ask for some help. on: January 18, 2013, 09:16:16 PM

Well, sometimes when you are all the way at the bottom, the only way up is to stand  on top of those who are down there with you...
3924  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 18, 2013, 09:08:59 PM

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He gives a personal endorsement statement, as well as some theories about where the energy might be coming from.

Yeah, that's not how inventors and scientists work. They come up with ideas on how to create motors and energy generators using actual real physics, discovered and tested by others before them, then they build their machines with very specific expectations, and then they test to see if their ideas and hypotheses were correct.

They don't just slap some magnets and "scientific" stuff together, test what it does, and try to come up with "explanations" afterwards. Crackpots do that. Besides, if these guys build something, test it, and their tests show that it's putting out more energy than it's taking in, the correct conclusion isn't "free energy" or "over-unity," it's " your testing equipment is broken."
3925  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 18, 2013, 07:35:22 PM
Getting a patent doesn't prove anything scientific. If they had been published in IEEE, that would've meant something.

Sure, I can read their claims and news, or I can just read the following
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http://www.keshespace.com/
We have proved through the systems we have developed that have an internal structure similar to the dual core of the Earth, that gravity is created by the interaction of magnetic fields within the different cores of the planet.

And laugh at them and their believers.
3926  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 18, 2013, 07:27:54 PM
Fire, the actual yellow or blue flame you see IS plasma. Just as different materials turn to solids, liquids, and gasses at different temperatures, they turn to plasma at different temperatures as well. Nor does it have to be particularly hot, as n neon lights are technically plasma too.
3927  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 18, 2013, 07:02:58 PM
He has spent the years since then completing a system for the production of gravity and energy using a radioactive hydrogen-fueled reactor that is clean and safe.

Um, the only "radioactive" way to use hydrogen is to fuse it. Hydrogen is the lowest level element (1 proton, 1 electron), so any energy from it would have to be either from nuclear fusion, or burning it with oxygen. Only the fusion is radioactive. Did he actually figure out how to make a fusion reactor? If he did, he's ahead of every other scientist on the planet... Warning: Bullshit detected.

He has covered all aspects of the design of a new plasma nuclear system from the very beginning to its present stage. This has included the design, the fuel, the testing and practical applications.

Oh, plasma! OK. Except "plasma" is just a fancy word for "fire," so I guess his reactor just burns hydrogen. Why the hell is that radioactive? Bullshit alert level rising.

In September 2004 he was invited by a leading western country, through its government office organizations, to present his technology for evaluation.

From November 2004 to March 2005 his technology was under consideration by scientists at a university.

What country? Is it in the Americas or Europe? What government office? What scientists? What university? Was it a diploma mill? Were the scientists even in the same field of research? Why so vague??? Bullshit levels critical!

Keshe bottle plasma energy = dude just created a very basic acid battery, no different from a potato or lemon school science fair battery. Contrary to his claims, we understand where electromagnetism and gravity come from really well.
3928  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'd like to ask for some help. on: January 18, 2013, 02:36:33 PM
In light of this new evidence I'd like to retract a statement I made several months ago.

The statement in question was roughly akin to the following:
"Well, actually, Rassah seems to be one of the more level headed and non-crazy-stupid guys on BTCTalk (aside from the dog penis table thing of course)"

I'm forced to admit I was deeply and utterly wrong and I apologize to anyone who was influenced by this statement to take disadvantageous business decisions.

In light of reviewing greyhawk's prior posts, and realizing that my statement reflects greyhawk's sentiments almost exactly (I.e. that "we/bitcoiners are all idiots and scammers, and deserve what we get"), I'm forced to apologize for having opinions similar to those of his and the rest of the goons, and retract my statement.
3929  Other / Off-topic / Re: 3D Printers: Need advice for 3D printing business on: January 18, 2013, 05:59:14 AM
It depends on whether you want quality or save money. The repraps are cheap at about half the cost, but their resolution and quality is kinda crap compared to the commercial units.

Perishable costs?

There's not much maintenance in these. As long as you stick with the materials designed for them, they'll work for quite a while. Otherwise you may damage the nozzle, and some materials with metallic ingredients may even dissolve it over time

Again, depends on what you need them for. The main difference between cheap and expensive units is resolution, not production time. Meaning cheaper units will have small ridges all down the sides (the sides of the printed flat pancakes will stand out), while higher resolution expensive ones will be more smooth. If you are planning to sell printed items, customers may prefer better quality smoother prints. You can also sand the lower quality ones, or have the customers do it, but that will cost more time/money.

Makerbot 2 is currently the highest quality home 3D printer available. Really high resolution, and the final prints come out pretty smooth. The final products will look good enough that you won't need to sand them, or even really notice the grain. It's also the most expensive one out there, though.

In summary, I would go with commercial, and steer clear of Makerbots for now. They'll cost you more in lost business from the low quality.
3930  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'd like to ask for some help. on: January 17, 2013, 10:06:53 PM
I hear your sentiments, but one of the lessons I learned in all of this is that this community is one obsessed with money (no kidding!) and that when you make a mistake financially, you have to rectify it financially. Some people might take a few bitcoins from me just to give them right back as a test of my intentions. Some might use the opportunity to make a quick buck, whom would otherwise not have paid at all. That's not for me to discern at the moment though, my task at hand is just making sure that I make amends so that I can continue living in a world where actions have consequences. It's an issue of mental health if nothing else. I have to stand up for myself when I am being abused, but also against myself when I have abused others.

How much if your financial situation worth to you, compared to your reputation on some forum? I.e. will paying back some people make your real life more difficult for you? I'm not sure that those who would receive money from you would really NEED it.
3931  Other / Off-topic / Re: I'd like to ask for some help. on: January 17, 2013, 09:56:47 PM
I just want to state that ANYONE who receives money from Matthew from this, I will consider as either an idiot, or a scumbag. An idiot, because you put your money into something as stupid as Pirate or this bet without taking responsibility for your own stupid financial decisions
Or a scumbag because you could easily claim that you made such a bet without proof, and are just trying to steal money from this naive fool
3932  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 17, 2013, 06:32:01 PM
I think the number of folks who truly and completely understand global economics is very small. That single subject on its own would need a lifetime dedicated to it just to have a hope of completely understanding it, do you think we should dedicate ourselves to that level of understanding for every subject a child becomes curious about to ensure we never lie to them?

No, I think we should explain to them as much as we already know, and if they have more questions, explain those as well, as opposed to oversimplifying because "they're just kids, so they wouldn't get it anyway." That's what my parents did, anyway (explain everything in as much detail as possible I mean). I still remember the lecture while walking with mom to the metro station on the properties of light, it's multiple wave frequencies, how they reflect at different angles when sent through prisms, and how prisms could be made of glass or water, and clouds are essentially a collection of millions of little prisms, when my 5 year old self asked, "Mom, where do rainbows come from?"
The idea, or hope, is that you can give your kids as much of your own knowledge as possible, so that they can start from where you are at and continue expanding their knowledge beyond that, instead of dumbing things down for them, and hope they get to your level when they have "grown up."
3933  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 17, 2013, 02:18:40 PM
Why would someone explain to a child that money is just something to buy TVs and candy, as opposed to explaining what it is, how it came about, and who is in control of it now? I think dumbing down things for kids is part of  the reason for all our problems today Sad
3934  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 15, 2013, 04:17:41 PM
Would it be fair to say that orbiting planets and electrons are just stores of energy (kinetic, atomic, etc), like a battery or a spinning gyro, and not perpetual motion machines?
3935  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 15, 2013, 04:05:25 PM
For example. Everybody knows wave-particle duality, that particles have both wave and particle properties, but nobody knows why? Making up a story based on the observed results to explain the behavior is Science. Wink

Telling stories is just making up hypotheses. Anyone can make tons of those, and they are entirely useless. Just stories. It only becomes science when you actually start to test them.

EDIT: And yes, you can test the theories behind physical cosmology, which makes them not stories.
We also have "microscopes" that can see individual atoms, so those aren't just guesswork, either.
3936  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 14, 2013, 06:13:22 PM
Perpetual motion devices using magnets are not perpetual beacuse magnets wear out.

This is the simplest and clearest explanation I've seen so far. It also helps us understand what a "free energy" device would really entail. It would entail a source of power that was unlimited in comparison to our lives/the lifespan of the earth. Such as solar power. The sun will die, in billions of years, but we don't have to worry about that now.

Oh godamnit. Let me say it again, using the words of the simple sentence you quoted:

Perpetual motion devices using magnets are not perpetual because MAGNETS ARE NOT A SOURCE OF ENERGY

Neither is gravity. Background radiation might be, but there is so little energy in that radiation that it would take an ENORMOUS collector to collect any useful amount of it. In all your examples, it's not a question of "how do we tap it," it's "how much energy is actually in it?" And all your endo/exo-thermic examples are not "free" energy, they are engines that take in energy and covert it into another energy, whether solar to motion, or explosions to heat. This whole think with perpetual motions is actually really quite simple: that energy can not be created or destroyed is a law, and anything that uses energy only converts it into some other form of energy. No other options or "but's." You just can't have something that is moving perpetually. Even in the vacuum of space, not connected to anything, just the fact that you are able to look at it moving around means that light is exerting a force on it and is causing it to slow down. And you can't have something that is generating energy from nothing. It ALWAYS has to come from somewhere.
So our ONLY options are cheap energy generators that convert energy from something else (solar power, chemical reactions, etc), or... nothing. That's pretty much it. If anyone claims they have created a perpetual motion machine or a source of free energy, just ask him where that energy comes from. If he says "magnets," or some other fancy physics gobledegook, he's an idiot.
3937  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thirty seconds to live on: January 13, 2013, 07:05:59 AM
Easy: continue to make our technologies more energy efficient, as we have been throughout our existence. Our cars went from 5 miles per gallon to 50, or lightbulbs went from 100 watts to 10, our computers went from taking up buildings and using up kilowatts of power to fitting in our hands and using a fraction of power, etc. And we have yet to start seriously using our natural gas reserves, nuclear power is still practically in the "dirty coal-powered stream engine" stage, solar is still only beginning to be explored (I like where advances in solar stirling engines is going), and we have yet to tap into fusion power. We still have a very long way to go.
3938  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 13, 2013, 04:13:44 AM
... Ruining Nikola Tesla's reputation? You know he wanted to build a death ray right? LOL!

You mean a microwave generating magnetron? Yeah, we already built one. His death ray is now practically in every kitchen in America  Grin
3939  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 13, 2013, 04:05:09 AM
I can completely miss a "What are you doing?" from a friend if I'm too focused doing something. It's like I have a 5 second hearing buffer. I can miss a question when it's asked but remember it after 5 seconds if I change focus to the person asking. Funny.

Our brains work a bit like computers, in that they have short term memory, like RAM that stores about 7 seconds of mmemory, and long term memory, like a computer hard drive. Everything you experience gets recorded into your short term memory, and your brain selectively records stuff out of it into your long term. So, if you catch yourself fast enough, you can recall what you just heard even if you weren't actively listening to it.
I use it to count the number of coo-coos our clock makes to tell time, after it already chimed (as in, it starts going, half way through I realize it's coo.cooing, and after it stops I go back and count how many I heard, despite not noticing or counting them right away).
3940  Other / Off-topic / Re: Perpetual motion device - Free Energy - Do you believe in it? on: January 12, 2013, 10:02:17 PM
Magnets are not springs because a moving spring will not induce a current in a wire.

I know, I'm just trying to dumb it down for the people as much as possible. A magnet to inducing a current in a wire (attaching to and pulling electrons) is as a spring attaching to some crap with one end and dragging it along when you pull on the other. I guess I could call a magnet just a fastener.
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