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3921  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 08, 2017, 07:50:12 PM
Regarding the question: how does #teamflat explain GPS satellites?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave

"In radio communication, skywave or skip refers to the propagation of radio waves reflected or refracted back toward Earth from the ionosphere, an electrically charged layer of the upper atmosphere. Since it is not limited by the curvature of the Earth, skywave propagation can be used to communicate beyond the horizon, at intercontinental distances."

So, you beam a radio signal towards the ionosphere/dome from a ground station dish. The signal reaches the ionosphere/dome and it bounces back down to Earth from the sky. This would make it seem like the signal originated from a satellite, but in fact it originated on the ground.

And anyway you don't need satellites to determine "GPS" location. You just need to be within range of cell towers and triangulation math will do the rest. This would work basically the same on a flat Earth or a globe Earth.

#teamglobe should probably reconsider using GPS as evidence of a globe earth. Feel free to correct me.

Geo-location from Cell towers assumes you are simply at ground level wherever it determines you to be.
GPS is available and functioning regardless of weather and location. GPS works in the middle of the ocean, hundreds or thousands of miles from any tower.
And of course GPS IS OPEN SOURCE. You can design and build your OWN RECEIVER to take advantage of it. You can test your ideas for yourself.


Okay, disregard the cell tower point, because that confused my main point.

My main point is that it is possible to have a navigation system that is nearly identical to GPS without using satellites at all. All you need is a network of powerful land-based radio transmitters at various points on the Earth. Not only that, but because the signals are bounced off the ionosphere, you could make it SEEM as if the signals were coming from satellites in the sky.

Loran-C is a real-world example. It was basically GPS but without satellites. And it worked in the middle of the ocean...

Since these are military technologies, they have no obligation to tell the public how the system really works. In fact, it would be wise for the military to concoct a story like 'something something satellites" instead of reveal the true nature of it all.






So they would make  up something much more complex and hard (satellites) to hide how their actual system works? You see how that makes no sense right?
3922  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 08, 2017, 05:52:41 PM
Too many maybes and ifs and no proof of anything. What is the point of beveling in any of it. There is one thing that is true, we are all going to die. Evidence suggests that dying is the end, there is no afterlife, no heaven, no anything, just death. Why waste your time believing in nonsense which deep down you know it's not true.

Maybe because it's not about believing in afterlife .
Actually all the evidence suggests that consciousness is cyclical and that survival of the personality after death is a real phenomenon with implications for spirituality.
See for yourself over 100 points of evidence in support of the survival hypothesis:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19301374#msg19301374

Skeptics have been known to ignore the evidence presented to them.
Using prejudice to make unwarranted conclusions is unscientific!

A famous paper recently showed that the claimed results of most scientific studies are simply false:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/
So why should we BLINDLY trust mainstream opinion of scientists? Stick to hard evidence and you will be fine. I have disclosed the evidence, so anyone who doubts it can debate the facts with me.
In my opinion, the scientists who reject survival are also wrong, but the brightest scientists like Wallace did find evidence and cocncluded that survival is real.
What if you found written content that indicates a divine source, would you discard any such books if they are not in the mainstream? Why not consider the contents of the Phoenix Journals as divine communication meant to instruct mankind? In my opinion the content of this material explains Bible teaching much better than Bible alone.

Make sure you have read the important paper from Cunningham:
the content-source problem in modern mediumship research - Rivier University
and an explanation of the origin of the highly informative Phoenix Journals:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/gch.html

When I said, evidence suggests that death is the end, I didn't base that on studies. There aren't really studies made for that. It's just what we know so far. Your body dies, your brain dies and your consciousness dies as well and there is nothing left. The ''soul'' hasn't been proved to exist so when you die, you die. Unless you can prove there is something more in our bodies, minds, etc there is no point in believing in after life.

I hope you are not saying that the delusional guy who wrote the phoenix journals is actually real. You guys believe in the stupidest shit just because you read books about it.

 
3923  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 08, 2017, 04:20:54 PM
Regarding the question: how does #teamflat explain GPS satellites?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skywave

"In radio communication, skywave or skip refers to the propagation of radio waves reflected or refracted back toward Earth from the ionosphere, an electrically charged layer of the upper atmosphere. Since it is not limited by the curvature of the Earth, skywave propagation can be used to communicate beyond the horizon, at intercontinental distances."

So, you beam a radio signal towards the ionosphere/dome from a ground station dish. The signal reaches the ionosphere/dome and it bounces back down to Earth from the sky. This would make it seem like the signal originated from a satellite, but in fact it originated on the ground.

And anyway you don't need satellites to determine "GPS" location. You just need to be within range of cell towers and triangulation math will do the rest. This would work basically the same on a flat Earth or a globe Earth.

#teamglobe should probably reconsider using GPS as evidence of a globe earth. Feel free to correct me.

Geo-location from Cell towers assumes you are simply at ground level wherever it determines you to be.
GPS is available and functioning regardless of weather and location. GPS works in the middle of the ocean, hundreds or thousands of miles from any tower.
And of course GPS IS OPEN SOURCE. You can design and build your OWN RECEIVER to take advantage of it. You can test your ideas for yourself.
3924  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 08, 2017, 01:11:19 PM
(crickets chirping)

Are you able to go potty by yourself, or does your handler have to help you?

fake post by fake nomad who is obviously hired by the flat earth society to brainwash us. NICE TRY
3925  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 08, 2017, 10:29:54 AM
... snip

Wow, appreciate you bother answering. Thanks for your time.
Is there anything you believe is true? Nuclear weaponry? WW1&2? Colonization?  Are planes realy flying or it's faked as well?

I have strong feeling you don't mean this all seriously.
FYI: I don't believe the moonlanding as well but faking it had an obvious reason ... to humiliate russian block in public scene. But why to fake the round earth? Why would anybody bother with such thing?

Have to say if your theory is correct it's the first and only thing where both western/eastern countries collaborated in full scale.

My finish was snotty because I've seen your childish reactions to others (IMO valid) remarks.


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Nuclear weaponry? WW1&2? Colonization?  Are planes realy flying or it's faked as well?

Nukes are fake. Nothing but fear porn and a tax grab.

WW1&2, like all major military conflicts, were staged events. Controlled demolition and strategic relocation.
The Holocaust was fake, btw. Nobody was gassed to death in any concentration camps. Jew scam of the century.

Colonization? You mean of North America? Research freemasonry. Welcome to the New World Order.

And yes, planes do fly. Don't be a total fucking mong.

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I have strong feeling you don't mean this all seriously.

Check your diaper for lumps.

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FYI: I don't believe the moonlanding as well but faking it had an obvious reason ... to humiliate russian block in public scene. But why to fake the round earth? Why would anybody bother with such thing?

There was no "space race". Just like there never was a nuclear threat from Russia. Castro, Cuba, Kennedy; all a bullshit scam.
All the world leaders are on the same team. I told you this already.

And btw, JFK wasn't assassinated; the Abraham Zapruder (jew/mason) film is fake. The masons faked the whole thing. 11/22 = 33

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Have to say if your theory is correct it's the first and only thing where both western/eastern countries collaborated in full scale.

The leaders have ALWAYS collaborated to create conflict when there really is none. That's how they start wars and suck retards in to become soldiers to "fight for their country". The only war heroes are draft dodgers and deserters. The rest are all fucking loser idiots. Fuck November 11 and fuck the moronic veterans who took up arms in any war. Bunch of poor fucking suckers. Fuck countries and fuck flags.

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My finish was snotty because I've seen your childish reactions to others (IMO valid) remarks.

I had some time to kill, so I shared some information with you.

Follow up on what I say, and do your own research.

Your entire life you have been lied to on a MASSIVE scale that defies comprehension.


In fact everything is fake. I'm sorry to tell you guys but we live in a virtual reality computer program. We don't really exist.
3926  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 08, 2017, 10:16:02 AM
... snip

Wow, appreciate you bother answering. Thanks for your time.
Is there anything you believe is true? Nuclear weaponry? WW1&2? Colonization?  Are planes realy flying or it's faked as well?

I have strong feeling you don't mean this all seriously.
FYI: I don't believe the moonlanding as well but faking it had an obvious reason ... to humiliate russian block in public scene. But why to fake the round earth? Why would anybody bother with such thing?

Have to say if your theory is correct it's the first and only thing where both western/eastern countries collaborated in full scale.

My finish was snotty because I've seen your childish reactions to others (IMO valid) remarks.


pff, your post is obviously fake as well, you are hired by NASA to spread your propaganda here, it's obvious. No, actually NASA is also fake, they are controlled by someone else who is also fake.
3927  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2017, 11:19:16 PM
^
@Asstargath

Seems to me that a troll in this thread would be a globe earth believer with cognitive dissonance who repeatedly denies and contradicts all the flat earth research and evidence that's been presented in these pages.

Just saying.  Kiss

Do your own research, you stupid fucking knob.

Start here, mong:  https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22flat+earth%22

If you can't figure it out for yourself, tough shit.

Some folks are supposed to die ignorant, and your fate is of no consequence to me.



I don't need to do any research. I already know the earth is not flat, people already knew that shit thousands of years ago. Quit being a stupid troll because it won't work. Youtube videos are not research. Anyone who believes the earth is flat has to be willfully, militantly ignorant. This isn’t a theory at this point. We’ve been to space, there are people up there right now, sending back vast quantities of pictures and video. We can see the whole earth, we can watch it rotate. We’re having this communication via satellites that are in orbit around it.

In this era where we can simply look at the earth and tell that it’s round, you can only believe that it’s flat by concocting insane theories about how all of that evidence is a product of conspiracies, and offering “proof” that falls apart the moment you look closely at it.

In short, someone who believes the earth is flat is not convince-able. They’ve already made up their minds not to accept anything that contradicts what they believe.

To believe in a flat Earth is to assume that NASA, the government and the entire scientific community are part of a major conspiracy to delude everyone, that the Moon landings never happened, and that NASA spends most of its budget on fabricating evidence of other celestial objects rather than actually exploring space. The Big Bang theory, along with most of physics, would go out the window as well. And that's not even half of it.

Of course not only NASA and the scientific community would need to be in on the conspiracy. All shipping companies and airline companies along with most of their employees also need to be involved. In fact every transnational company whose goods were moved around the world would need to be involved. And of course you would need the telecommunications companies to be deeply involved. For that matter every government on the planet along with large numbers of their employees and the military would have to be keeping quiet about it - for some reason which never seems to be fully explained.
3928  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2017, 09:10:52 PM
What have they been teaching me at school then? It's all fake?
To have so much control over you its gotta start somewhere, the brainwashing, they control what you think.!  not You, they form your opinions with television "programes" but the programing can be broken.

The problem is that there is no point in saying the earth is not flat. In fact the control would be to say the earth is flat and that you can't leave. That would be control. What scientists are saying now is that the universe is huge, the earth is a sphere and you can actually go to outer space. I don't see how they are controlling you by saying that. I can see how they would control you by saying the earth is flat because that way you would think we are trapped here and that no one can actually leave. As you can see, the flat earth pseudo theory is just bullshit and makes no sense.

You seem like you know what you are talking about could explain this conundrum to me, cheers



??

http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/constellationmonth_list.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumpolar_star

In addition, the star's positions relative to each other do change slightly over the course of a year. It's just that, unless a star is relatively close to us, the effect is so small, we don't notice it.

Do you lack basic common sense or are you just another troll?

Ahh.. No that is not reality, every 6 months you should be facing 180 degrees in a different direction at night,according to ball earth model, you can do this experiment yourself and confirm it is not true, thanks for the useless links FAIL

Yeah, you are just trolling.
3929  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 07, 2017, 08:37:55 PM
Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)



I believe in god because I know he is the creator of everything in the world and the whole universe. And I worship him because he is our very father who created us all. The god of childbirth and death caused the sins of the people. God holds man's life, the god holds what we can reach in life, holds all gods that can happen to all. He entrusted to his son that Jesus was spreading his word so that we could recognize the God who created everything. Believe in him because he will only help us in times of need, believe and only believe in him Smiley.




How do you know that?
3930  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2017, 08:24:18 PM
The problem with the flat earth is that they claim scientists or NASA purposely invented gravity, globe, etc etc
Scientists didn't just say all at once, hey guys we just found out the earth is a globe. We gradually found out, even thousands of years ago people knew the earth was not flat. I guess they were part of the plot as well?
3931  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 07, 2017, 01:59:15 PM
Yes, I believe in God

Yes you should believe to God. God is the one who give us life that we use right now. God give us blessings to use in our daily living and god also forgive the sin that we commits. God is good all the time and we should always pray and go to churches to give thanks for all things that he give to us.

Actually you are wrong, Zeus is the real god.
3932  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2017, 12:54:28 PM
What have they been teaching me at school then? It's all fake?
To have so much control over you its gotta start somewhere, the brainwashing, they control what you think.!  not You, they form your opinions with television "programes" but the programing can be broken.

The problem is that there is no point in saying the earth is not flat. In fact the control would be to say the earth is flat and that you can't leave. That would be control. What scientists are saying now is that the universe is huge, the earth is a sphere and you can actually go to outer space. I don't see how they are controlling you by saying that. I can see how they would control you by saying the earth is flat because that way you would think we are trapped here and that no one can actually leave. As you can see, the flat earth pseudo theory is just bullshit and makes no sense.

You seem like you know what you are talking about could explain this conundrum to me, cheers



??

http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/constellationmonth_list.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumpolar_star

In addition, the star's positions relative to each other do change slightly over the course of a year. It's just that, unless a star is relatively close to us, the effect is so small, we don't notice it.

Do you lack basic common sense or are you just another troll?
3933  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2017, 10:57:57 AM
What have they been teaching me at school then? It's all fake?
To have so much control over you its gotta start somewhere, the brainwashing, they control what you think.!  not You, they form your opinions with television "programes" but the programing can be broken.

The problem is that there is no point in saying the earth is not flat. In fact the control would be to say the earth is flat and that you can't leave. That would be control. What scientists are saying now is that the universe is huge, the earth is a sphere and you can actually go to outer space. I don't see how they are controlling you by saying that. I can see how they would control you by saying the earth is flat because that way you would think we are trapped here and that no one can actually leave. As you can see, the flat earth pseudo theory is just bullshit and makes no sense.

The truth is simple pal.!!!!but they dont tell you the truth.!!!!! Understand that you have not broke the programming ...Understand you are not thinking correctly yet.!!. the whole outer space thing is to make you feel that you are just a spec in the corner and have no significance in the grand scheme of things at all.!!! This Realm was made for us.!!!! Dont you forget it.!!!!!!
Aint that special

And the flat earth is to make you think you are trapped here so they can control you. pal.
3934  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2017, 10:27:29 AM
Put two sticks in the ground a distance apart.  Their shadows do not point in the same direction, proving the earth is round.

Why don't the two sticks cast a shadow in the same direction, as they would on a flat earth?

Cool

Because outer space and the heliocentric model is bullshit. The Sun is a 32 mile wide source of light within the dome that orbits at an altitude of about 3000 miles. Having the shadows from two sticks not point in the same direction is exactly what's expected with a small close Sun above a flat plane.

Working things ass backwards by claiming the Earth is in motion and orbiting a 2 million mile wide Sun 93 million miles out then boldly claiming it's proof of a globe is fucked. You're on the merry-go-round claiming you're motionless and the Earth is spinning tubby.


prove it.

Fuck off, the math works the same for a small close Sun and flat plane as it does for a spinning globe and giant far away Sun. You can crunch the numbers and prove it yourself.

So you are saying the spinning globe is possible?
3935  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2017, 10:18:53 AM
What have they been teaching me at school then? It's all fake?
To have so much control over you its gotta start somewhere, the brainwashing, they control what you think.!  not You, they form your opinions with television "programes" but the programing can be broken.

The problem is that there is no point in saying the earth is not flat. In fact the control would be to say the earth is flat and that you can't leave. That would be control. What scientists are saying now is that the universe is huge, the earth is a sphere and you can actually go to outer space. I don't see how they are controlling you by saying that. I can see how they would control you by saying the earth is flat because that way you would think we are trapped here and that no one can actually leave. As you can see, the flat earth pseudo theory is just bullshit and makes no sense.
3936  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
Put two sticks in the ground a distance apart.  Their shadows do not point in the same direction, proving the earth is round.

Why don't the two sticks cast a shadow in the same direction, as they would on a flat earth?

Cool

Because outer space and the heliocentric model is bullshit. The Sun is a 32 mile wide source of light within the dome that orbits at an altitude of about 3000 miles. Having the shadows from two sticks not point in the same direction is exactly what's expected with a small close Sun above a flat plane.

Working things ass backwards by claiming the Earth is in motion and orbiting a 2 million mile wide Sun 93 million miles out then boldly claiming it's proof of a globe is fucked. You're on the merry-go-round claiming you're motionless and the Earth is spinning tubby.


prove it.
3937  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2017, 09:49:40 AM
According to your inability to answer basic questions, it is not.

Mental illness, and too much free time, dude. Best to just ignore the fool IMO.

They are just trolling imo.

They most certainly are imo.

Damn so you finally admit it after 400 pages lol
3938  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: September 07, 2017, 08:11:01 AM
According to your inability to answer basic questions, it is not.

Mental illness, and too much free time, dude. Best to just ignore the fool IMO.

They are just trolling imo.
3939  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 07, 2017, 08:04:44 AM
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A guy that knows almost nothing about God, but condamns it. Yet he finds it completly fine to worship such a God if one wants to.

First of all, I know enough god to decide, if I believe in him or not.

Second, of course it is completely fine to believe in a god. Why should I care? It is your life. But I'd rather see people believing in god and be happy, instead of being miserable.    

You are completly right. I have transgresed the comandments there by mocking you. It's all a misunderstanding. I thought you were the quick2learn( I was being tired ) as he told so much about the Bible and do not know anything about it. Later on I was too prideful to admitt to an error.

That sittuation had humbled my pride that led me to say upleasant thing to you. You are 100% right. It's a personal relationship with the creator.

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Maybe you just do not understand moral law?

Yes we do have a moral compass in us. But also "the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth".

As we see at my example I was blinded by the pride. Why would you not assume you are wrong about the Bible? Maybe your pride is blinding you as well.

The rule to read the Bible is to read further if you do not understand something. You will understand later. It is hard for prideful average man to admitt he does not understand.

A lot of garbage posts from you but we still don't see the scientific proof of god.
3940  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: September 07, 2017, 08:02:52 AM
Religious people are nice, because their god told him to be that way. Atheist are nice because they decide themselves to be that way.

Religious people are nice only because they fear eternal fire if they aren't.   Cool

Unless they are blowing themselves up for their god Cool
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