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3921  Economy / Economics / Re: technical or fundamental ? on: April 14, 2018, 04:12:10 AM
BTCbitcoin prices moving due to  technical analysis or fundamental analysis???!!!!!BTC
I stick with both because you cannot do without the two analyses when making market decisions. As long as you are doing your technical analysis, you can decide to balance it with fundamental to be sure of the decision you are making and to check out if it correlates with the sentiments in the market.

Although, you have to also understand that most times, you may need to make use of technical analysis to make most of your decisions anyway and FA is just more like an added advantage to making your decision but it still does not correlate most of the time.
3922  Economy / Economics / Re: its not about how much you invested, its when you should invest? on: April 13, 2018, 06:04:06 PM
kinda strange when investing in a volitile  market. you can spend 10,000 $ into the market in january and come out less. than what a person invested in april with 10,000 $.
Yeah when newbies are new to bitcoin, they don't do due diligence at all, they just buy it. Timing is an important factor but you'll remain there itself if you always wait for the right time because you never know when the right time would come. So what I say is buy whenever you want, if possible avoid buying at a stupidly high price and with whatever you have, make sure you take some smart decisions and increase your holdings by trades.
Yes, it is mainly because the idea they brought in was more like, people have been getting hugely rich and they also want to get rich as well and then thinking that all of a sudden, within a year, they would just start getting rich immediately. That is high level of greed and that was what we saw last year. Many of them had the fear of missing out and I really would not blame them since no one could have known the future and they did not have the time to at least take proper note of the environment they are investing in. In some perspective, when you invested into bitcoin is also not a big concern when you are ready to wait and hold for infinite period of times Tongue.
3923  Economy / Economics / Re: The market started looking green today. on: April 13, 2018, 05:23:01 PM
It is an indication that truly cryptocurrency  will survive from this crisis. Market is quietly moving up and down, hope this signs may continue until its price will back to normal again. This is not the time we rejoice cause there is still chances of market dump in any moment.
I really do not see what is going on as a crisis anyway, I simply see it as a normal thing for the market to go through and for one thing, it is one of the ways we have always come back stronger.

Yeah, we may want to see the whole FUD as an attack on cryptocurrency, but I see it as a way some set of people just make use of to try to drive some weak hands out of the market to make more profit which it seems to me like something that has always been working for them, nonetheless, the market will recover and come back bigger.
3924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why people are holding Altcoin? on: April 13, 2018, 03:51:59 PM
Why people are still holding their altcoincoin in this volatile market?

Do they really love their altcoin?
Are they waiting for the price goes up?
What is your reason for holding?
Maybe it's because they love altcoins or altcoins are beneficial for them, everyone has different reasons for altcoins.
And I think altcoins are profitable in the future.
I would rather say they just love profits and that is how I have come to see the altcoin market anyway. It is just more like when you are investing in a stock market and you are investing in a company you believe in knowing that you are going to get the best from it as a stakeholder in the future.

Remember how the Apple copartner sold his stocks and eventually regretted it ? That is how I feel it is going to be for some dropping their shares in the market when most of the strong altcoins with product booms. In my view, nothing wrong in holding altcoins for longer duration but that altcoin must be based on strong concepts else disappoint alone will be the result.
3925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Professional and Institutional money are flowing in. What does that mean for us? on: April 13, 2018, 08:52:16 AM
I think it's a good thing that more and more financial institutions are starting to pay attention to cryptocurrency markets.
That would allow more people to invest in cryptocurrencies.
It is really a good thing, most especially for long term holders and those who have seen the light even before now. The prices of most coins or tokens with prospect is definitely going to be increasing a whole lot as the case may be as the top institutions keep stepping in and with that we will get to see new waves in the market and then a better market for trading compared to what we have always had. I see this as a good one for the future and definitely the start of the future. Simply, when more new people are joining into crypto kingdom then we can expect some big fire-works to happen. So, I am exciting awaiting those to happen again.
3926  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Bitcoin global regulation on: April 12, 2018, 03:41:40 PM
At this very moment, when the overall market of the crypto currencies and bitcoin specially is very much low and that most of the investors have already done panic selling, this global regulation of the bitcoin is very much necessary thing as this will surely help the bitcoin market to be little better and that this will also help in gaining the confidence of the ones who have invested their money into it.
Regulation is only going to usher in bigger players who will feel a little bit secured but that would still not change the advantage some of these bigger players will have in the market. Also, there will be some restrictions on exchanges anyway, so we can just expect that things may get better with regulation and moving forward as well. The confidence for investors is one thing that I am sure will get boosted anyway and we may see the era of being ushered into the mainstream.

All human activities must be regulated, but in this case we forget that the rules are already there: those defined by the software.
Putting external rules will only create confusion.
External rules are just there to curtail some certain things and it is not like the main protocol of anything will be changed. I believe regulation will always be on the country level and for some of the companies operational in those countries, and that would bring some level of sanity to the whole cryptocurrency environment considering how things will be done and some level of illegal activities will be curbed such as scam most especially.
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3928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When do you know its time to Stop? on: April 10, 2018, 11:56:28 AM
if do you have a target, I am sure yo know when time to stop.
Gambling is needed of selfcontrol to avoid your greedy and an addict to play in gambling.
Target in which aspect? In gambling or in any other field of life. I think that the best time for the person to stop gambling is the time when he is at the peak of his career. I know it is very difficult thing for not only gambler but also for the people related to other profession because no one would like to kick a luxurious life and live a life in which he has no food for meeting his hunger but that will be beneficial for him at the end.
Peak of his career ?
There is no career in gambling and it is just a game of chance and luck. If you are talking about the peak of what he has budgeted to gamble with, then that should always be the case. Usually, it is never good to even gamble with what you cannot afford to lose and never for once to get greedy as that is always where a lot of people usually have the problem or where it starts from.

As long as you can fix your mind with this then you will be able to handle yourself and know when to vamoose entirely. Behaving matured is the basic step here. You cannot show up that maturity in your beginning days of gambling but you must behave matured to stop gambling at right timing.
3929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does your family past incidents effect you? on: April 10, 2018, 08:48:40 AM
Yes i am also, have uncle addict in gambling. From what was originally a millionaire is now a rough-handed worker in an iron factory. When i tried to gamble, he rebuked me. He said: "I saving you, doesn't want to fall poor like me and enough me, not my nephew."

It is good to learn from other's experience but it is still your own choice whether to gamble or not after looking the fact of your uncle. As long as you can control yourself, gambling would never make you poor. Someone get into poorness because of gambling means that he/she could not control and manage him/herself while gambling. There is one key to avoid the worst thing "KNOW YOUR LIMIT".
It is one thing to want to gamble for fun and it is another thing to want to gamble for the money. Those who are ready to see it as fun always end up knowing their limit and those who see it otherwise will absolutely never know their limit no matter how.

If he cannot learn from his uncle's mistake on how he ended up screwing up himself with his gambling issue, I wonder who else he is going to end up learning from. If gamblers start learning their lessons from others then the suffering rate of gamblers may get slow down. It is not possible for anyone to learn from the first day of gambling. But must get practice to learn afterwards at least.
3930  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Learnings from crash on: April 10, 2018, 07:51:20 AM
Hmmm… I believe I have learnt a lot of things from all the crash I have experienced since I got into this. First, right now I’d say that what I have learnt is that I shouldn’t panic whenever price is going down or maybe try to sell out due to being afraid of losing money. I have experienced this several times, and whenever I tried selling out that’s when I feel like I’m loosing. Anyway, I have stopped relying on HODLing cause there are other means out there that can help me earn better than that. So I will just add that the second thing I have learnt is that we shouldn’t be relying on HODLing much.
First, you have made some good deductions from your experience, however, I will want to point out that even if you want to sell out to probably buy back at the bottom, you should be sure of what you are doing and not get yourself mixed up in FOMOs. It is the way things are, a lot have missed out thinking they are selling at the top, but it is either you learn how to do trend following to know when to sell and when to buy back or you just hold.

I guess I was greedy too at some point, most especially with the altcoins, but at the same time, I do not regret anything. It is the market, it would recover, and that is what is very much important. Many people have failed to realize this and that is why they panic easily at some huge drop in value. We basically need to understand that the market is a highly volatile one but that does not mean is no longer valuable.
3931  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: has trading become difficult? on: April 10, 2018, 05:57:25 AM
These days the bitcoin prices are rising and falling over 1000$ in just minutes and have become highly unpredictable way more than before.
Does this make trading more difficult right now?
The reason why trading is extremely risky job because it is unpredictable! Trading is very difficult job because we must have a lot of knowledge for us to overcome all of the unexpected situation that we can face while we are trading cryptocurrencies.
It is unpredictable because it is heavily volatile. The volatility can only end up being difficult to trade for those who do not really get the chance to learn and know how to take advantage of it. Normally, we have to tell ourselves the truth that majority of those in the market today are either just gambling their position as they do not have an idea of what they are doing or the just quickly did some quick study and thought that was fine already.

The market can turn green or red at any time, but that does not necessarily make trading to become difficult. There are signals one can always use to their advantage and those who find it hard to be able to make use of these signals or possibly do not understand how to use them will always find trading difficult, irrespective of the trend in the market. They only get lucky in an uptrend, but it is in downtrend that their asses get exposed.
3932  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price prediction by December 2018 on: April 10, 2018, 05:26:10 AM
Do you think bitcoin has the capability to hit the $30,000 mark before the end of 2018 or go below $6000?
We are not really sure the exact price Bitcoin accomplish by then, but I think that whatever high price is going to accomplish will before December and the price will also go down before December just like it did in 2017; it reached a very high price of $19000 and when it was around that kind December time it fell to about $15000 or so, from there it started going down to the current rate it is now.

Without positive regulatory news-5 K if your lucky
Mehn… that’s a FUD, but I don’t think it’s ever gonna happen lol. Of course it’s going to do the same as it did last year, go up and fall… but it won’t fall to the rate it did this year, that’s if it happens to achieve the price rate of 30k like many has been predicting all this while. But if it doesn’t, then it might turn out to be worst or maybe $5k like you have said.
3933  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Profit or No profit? on: April 10, 2018, 04:04:55 AM
To make profit you would have to buy low and wait for the price to go up which is when you should sell. Prices online are calculated according to the going rate of bitcoin at the time of purchase so the price of the commodity would be it's equivalent in bitcoin at that point. If you want to make profit then selling in a bull market is what you should do but you just have to be patient.
Yeah, most especially for those who are looking for the short term benefits rather than the long term but I always insist that anyone who wants to thread this route should always know what they are doing because that is more or less trying to thread the path of a trader which requires some knowledge, understanding of the market and experience.

Most especially when it has to do with bitcoin and those who tried without knowledge only ended up messing up badly at the end as they get fueled by emotions that the market generates since they are busy making emotional decisions and gambling their positions in the market.
3934  Economy / Speculation / Re: April will be around 5000 - and then further down on: April 10, 2018, 02:52:24 AM
I don't think the price of the bitcoin become $5000 this month because for me this is the wall of the bitcoin and once the price decrease that it will increase again the price.
I think that such a situation in the market Well, of course, if this happens, then the brain can explode in many traders and investors. I also really do not want to see the situation when Bitcoin dropped to $ 5,000 per coin.
Really, I do not know why some people derive pleasure in trying to see how the market gets so down even without reasoning or using their head. The market can get to anywhere, no doubt, not too low, because it is a market, but coming to tell us all these, really makes no sense, because no one can use TA to predict the future. In my view, those people who are paying attention to FUDs, including myself by replying to this thread are the ones to be blamed for the indirect support of such FUDs. I am expecting above $40,000 by end of this year hence there could be no more down trend and we may see prices to regain their power to rally at any time.
3935  Economy / Speculation / Re: The importance of staying positive, no matter what (the price is) on: April 10, 2018, 02:13:01 AM
Yeah only thing is staying positive won't give them their money back. You see, a lot of people went to different sources and got the money to invest in Bitcoin but now that the markets are in a bull period, they can't keep up with the other end of bargain when they borrowed the money. We are seeing suicides, murders and what not for money. This stupidity is worse than their earlier stupidity of buying bitcoin at a higher price.
It may not give them their money back, but if they were not ignorant of how the market has always been and they got in for the right reasons and not because of greed, they should have known better that this is a long term investment and not just some sort of get rich quick scheme.

I know it is a hard to take in for those who may have gone in big, but staying positive, finding ways to make things better and probably looking forward to the future, which they should have done in the first place, is the only way that would make them not to take the worst decisions.

Honestly the truth is that this is a market and things like this are always bound to happen and really like what OP said, so many people are busy crying and complaining over nothing when they should at least be taking those little advantage of the market or trying to learn ways they can. I guess it is how some people have decided to fashion themselves anyway, and since all they can do is to complain about everything, that absolutely gets to cloud their judgment of finding how to make things better.
3936  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's happening again. Bitcoin price went under $7,000 on: April 09, 2018, 03:04:06 PM
This is called a "bull trap". You think the price is finally going up, but then it bounces back.

It happened several times this year and it is a indication that we are in a bear market.

The problem is to identify the trap and distinguish it from a real FOMO rocket. One way to identify it is the double bottom, when a resistance is tested in the way down and spikes up two times. However, the double bottom was denied, as the price didnt reach the 8k mark.
The number of bull traps we just keep having every now and then is just pretty much telling us that the level of manipulation is growing hugely with the bears just wanting to take the price down as much as they want and us just hanging somewhere around. Identifying the trap is quite easy with RSI indicator and that has shown the level of oscillation for me so far to be able to see some divergence as well as the strength at any point in time.

Today again bitcoin prices are falling down from $7000+ price levels. I was thinking about the trend change but it is proven like bitcoin market is still within range-bound.
3937  Economy / Economics / Re: Never Fear! Buy Bitcoins to make your life clear! on: April 09, 2018, 11:59:40 AM
Bitcoin is an decentralized technology so you don't need anyone's permisstion to buy and use it.So be a dare person and adopt the new technology,make the revolution in the money system why governments controlling us.

Our money our rights.
The fact that this brings a lot of freedom for those who are holding for the future is the main reason we are here in the first place. The idea of P2P method of money transfer without a third party that decentralization brings has made the whole idea awesome and for one fact, the deflationary aspect of bitcoin even makes it a lot more interesting, which if anyone understands, they would not even bother panicking but hold on tight to what they have.

Basically bitcoin was designed to have huge values. So, making use of dumps to enter or to have more number of bitcoins must be a wise idea regardless of how wildly it is being dumped time to time. Even after heavy dumps, if you notice bitcoin is having good price levels compared to beginning of 2017.
3938  Economy / Economics / Re: About real state of cryptos on: April 09, 2018, 10:55:14 AM
my opinion about the use of crypto as a daily payment tool does not agree, because the price is not stable, it is less appropriate when used as a means of daily payment. cyprto is more precisely our place to invest.
The price volatility right now is not even a challenge because if any merchant wants to still accept cryptocurrency, he can as well do it and convert it to fiat immediately even with some services like bitpay. We may not be where we want to be with adoption on that level where you can easily make use of cryptocurrency for daily activities, but I believe we will get there some day.

The very reason why bitcoin is created is for this purpose. It make feel sad on how people look differently on bitcoin and what really is bitcoin for.
You cannot say bitcoin was created for serving only one purpose. If investment property was not actual plan of Satoshi then he might not have set limit of 21M coins and instead of halving he might have set to reduce the production of coins with every block rather than once in ~4 years.
3939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain and trust on: April 09, 2018, 09:19:24 AM
How can blockchain reduce business risks and increase trust
Everything is absolutely going to ball down on transparency since that is actually what the idea of blockchain brings anyway and as long as there is accountability and transparency, then there is going to be trust. With trusts, we end up seeing more investors in the arena, as people tend to assume there would be less risk in their investment even though no one can foresee the future of any. Blockchain is just a new method of distributed data maintaining method which completely eliminates the chances for an individual to change anything. Based on these facts we can expect more businesses to be build on blockchain technology in coming years.
3940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the next good ICO? on: April 09, 2018, 08:03:23 AM
If need good ICO list. First learn the ICO project. If learn the project then know easy to choose the good ICO project. More project in the bounty. So before invest check the best ICO project. ICO project price is increase day by day. So if invest ICO hold it. It helpful to future saving and future growth. People learn more information from ICO project.

If need more information check the below mention link.

https://medium.com/@fastinvest/top-10-ico-projects-to-watch-in-2018-7721201595e0 
Apparently, we cannot even know any good ICO until we actually get to know about the projects, the team and maybe there is a product. Even though the ICO has ended, I actually got in huge on Capdax ICO recently and that is an exchange that is going to blow my mind. The fact that they even decided to go solo to generate just little during the ICO without making too much noise about it even made it more interesting to be a part of it. I am looking forward to this hugely.

anything IOTA related will be good value in future.
Do not recommend anything without proper evidence. What is the past performance of IOTA ? Related means clone or same set of factors we need to consider for identifying similar to IOTA. I guess if you come up with more information only we can get what you actually mean.
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