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3921  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: January 08, 2013, 08:10:47 PM
More and more people at BFL forums get pissed off and demand information. Josh/Inaba always replies in the same way: "Yes, of course I can add a sticky thread. Yes, of course I can add a banner. ... Yes I can!"

Only he doesn't do it. As usual - nothing happens.

I (and most of the folks at BFL forums) seriously don't understand why. Makes no sense at all ...

why? Smiley Try feel in his role. How he has to tell people about the next shipment delay so as not piss off people. This requires a lot of time and focus.
Peptalk time!



Courtesy of:

http://www.mathcats.com/explore/elapsedtime.html
3922  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: January 08, 2013, 07:26:20 PM
More and more people at BFL forums get pissed off and demand information. Josh/Inaba always replies in the same way: "Yes, of course I can add a sticky thread. Yes, of course I can add a banner. ... Yes I can!"

Only he doesn't do it. As usual - nothing happens.

I (and most of the folks at BFL forums) seriously don't understand why. Makes no sense at all ...
Are you also left wondering why they haven't yet asked FPGA customers to start sending their trade-ins yet?

Wink

Or

Are you also asking yourself why they haven't given Yochdog or Kano any notice on when to board the plane?

Or

Are you left wondering why they haven't said anything that leads up to a shipping date in the next 15 days?

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February 2013....here we come!
3923  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 08, 2013, 07:12:06 PM
About Invoicing...
The best option will be to name AVALON as "Computer Configuration" in the invoice

1. There are no additional taxes involved in my country when importing computers except VAT which can not be avoided
2. There will be no issues because it is crypto equipment named like "ordinary PC" and no additional customs check will be applied if it is double purpose or not. When speaking of Cryptography Import/Export rules, they are very strict in my country (and all over EU) and it may happen that some of the EU customers will not be able to get the unit at all from the customs
What about it BitSyncom?
Anyone to have something against naming our units as "Computer Configuration"? If we all agree on that it will be eraser for BitSyncom to handle invoices because all of them will be same for "Computer Configuration"?
I highly recommend you all make these suggestions (on importation declarations) in private and away from BFL's prying eyes.

Unless you want possible trouble.
3924  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [topic topiary] Trolling thread topologically tossed from the terrane on: January 07, 2013, 10:15:57 PM
Better yet, why don't you all fund this guys adventure?

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/644-new-facility-update-has-anyone-ever-visited-got-idea.html



His bitcoin talk name is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=56447 (JMcGrath)

He stated he had a fear that BFL would cancel his orders. I wonder if BFL will cancel all his orders now that he intends to check up on them directly?

Hey PL,looks like the same thing at bASIC's camp,minus the "adventure"  Tongue  Cheesy



https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=1afa765ac324f84b55fc60383a5cdf42&topic=882.30


I cannot say I am surprised.

They are acting or behaving in much the same way as BFL has been for a long time.

The reaction with BFL was much the same. Tom needs to get his info straight and get on the ball quick. Telling your customers that if they can't stand the heat they should get a refund (ala BFL) is not a good business strategy.

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I expect that when Jan 13 through the 17 comes around, that Tom will be equal to Josh. Having no answers other than yet another delay. I do have full confidence that BFL will ship in Feb. I have strong reservations that Tom might ever ship.

You might ask me why I take that position. It is because of what happened in November 25th.

[Speculation]

---There was a conflict with his Family of some kind. (I speculated privately/internally it was probably him putting his house or something valuable as collateral for more money to continue the project.)
---His business with the designer of the boards fell through, either because of the contracted showing their incompetence or because they probably told him that they would not be able to deliver on time.
---He may have been hung out to dry by his Dev team and then had to run out and get someone to replace them. (which is what happened)

Then, seemingly, everyone stopped asking what the trouble was exactly. So there were never any answers I actually saw coming out of that situation.

If any of the above is even somewhat remotely true, then Tom is more likely to implode than BFL. I have to say I like Tom quite a bit, but his BFL impersonation does not suit him well. He should go back to how he was before.

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The only thoughts crossing my mind are that BFL tried to do too much on their first run, and the consequences followed.

Tom went the easier route and simply depended too much on the wrong design company. They may have been the weakest link in his chain.

Avalon seems to be cruising below the surface of events and is seemingly only bothered by the fact that they don't know how many chips they will utilize in one rig and whether people will mind the higher watt usage.

ASICMiner seems to be interested in mining on their own. They are the great catalyst for refunds in late January. (Says my crystal ball)
I do not feel that ASICMiner will ever fail. They are in it for themselves. The only outcry from the community is when they add to the rising difficulty.

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Personally, if Avalon ships in January, they will be the only solution that produced an ASIC device for the common man (ahead of time). The odd thing being that 2/3 of orders have gone to the players who either have locked up peoples money and aren't (yet) delivering on the promises.
3925  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [topic topiary] Trolling thread topologically tossed from the terrane on: January 07, 2013, 12:36:58 AM
Better yet, why don't you all fund this guys adventure?

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/644-new-facility-update-has-anyone-ever-visited-got-idea.html



His bitcoin talk name is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=56447 (JMcGrath)

He stated he had a fear that BFL would cancel his orders. I wonder if BFL will cancel all his orders now that he intends to check up on them directly?
3926  Bitcoin / Hardware / [Archive] BFL trolling museum on: January 05, 2013, 08:51:03 PM
Just gonna drop this here:

Update

The samples passed all functionality tests. The power consumption is also within the expected range. And as our overclocking tests had shown, they still have a lot of potentials compared to our original spec. This means that the biggest risk of our project is gone and our NRE is a fruitful spend.

The first production batch of chips will be out of the packaging service tomorrow. Our deploying is on its way.

Presumably that means they have now given the go-ahead to make of a new maskset for full-wafer production, in order to reach their planned 50TH/s capacity.

If these ASIC vendors don't get their production moving along quickly, we may see a significant (> 50%) consolidation of network hashing power.

Whether it's abused or not, the mere potential will undermine confidence in the security of the network and the currency it supports, IMO.
By the way, the posts above are talking about ASICMiner, not BFL.

BFL is still in a holding pattern for the next delay (very likely IMO).
3927  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 05, 2013, 09:50:21 AM
The BFL pre-mature ejaculation image which you saw fit to edit out was one of the more amusing (and 'apropos') ones to have graced bitcointalk.org in a while.  And the production quality exceeded that of many.

PuertoLibre forgot to mention that he borrowed it from Butterflylabs Forums: Contest: Ad Week 2 Little Single SC Giveaway

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/dbtgallery.php?do=view_image&id=29&gal=usergallery
Your right! I forgot to get the link to the original poster. It wasn't mine. It was probably made by a BFL customer.
3928  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 04, 2013, 10:33:01 PM
I hope this clock is true:
http://www.avalon-asics.com/
I believe it will be.
Hmm, Yeah possibly in mid-Feb.

It will be kind of funny[as in sad] to see them delay once again. RG @ BFL forums was thinking the same thing.

I really want to see how long the hardcore supports at BFL can keep waiting for their deliveries. At least Avalon has the decency to make their planning and stated delays ahead of time.

BFL just waits until the very end to announce the next one. "ha ha"

P.S. an apropos entry:

3929  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 04, 2013, 09:55:33 PM
@ All

I have decided to place Inaba on ignore. I will continue to post what I think about BFL/Avalon/bASIC/AsicMiner etc.

If Inaba still comes to this open forum (which is not his "exclusive property" nor "under his administrative ownership") to bash me or anyone else that says something even slightly negative of his employers practices. I will be unaware of it. If he decides to follow my or every other compatriots every post and comment on it [as if it were a hot dogfight] all over the internet beyond the confines of the BFL official forum. I am sure I will see his name being blocked somewhere on the forum (repeatedly).

I want to prove that he can't help himself in coming here and bothering other members. With slurs and all manner of derogatory words.

What we may collectively think of BFL is none of Josh's worry. If Josh wishes to bash us for those opinions or speculations that is his personal motive. What he cannot do is restrict our right to say it nor discuss it on this forum. As that would be a form of harassment.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=ignore;u=8198;topic=120184;msg=1433516
3930  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 04, 2013, 09:01:19 AM
@ Mem

As funny as you think it might be to draw someone in KKK clothing it is nothing to laugh about.

As for "Inaba, is gonna git ya!" or whatever it is you wrote...I have actually been a victim of an [attempted] Home Invasion.

You can only know what real fear is when you are in the midst of one. When you have had a crazy person outside your door trying to pound and kick it in off it's hinges....

You can't really understand what it is like to have several family members holding kitchen knives in their hand looking at each other wondering what the hell to do in that situation. Your family in such a situation keeps looking at each other scared while each is holding a knife in hand and wondering whether you (or one of them) will actually have to do something drastic like stab someone when they finally break the lock or knock the door from it's frame. Or if there will be blood on the floor. Or if the attacker is going to take the knife from your hand or one of their or if you are fast enough to not end up in a struggle with the person and get stabbed yourself.

5 Minutes for 911 to get to your home (and they are barely a few blocks away) is an ETERNITY of waiting. When they did finally get there they rightfully came out and jumped the fence with guns drawn.

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Needless to say, God was with us on that day. The frame of the door had to be pounded back into place with a hammer. The police hopped plenty of fences looking for the guy but they didn't find him. In situations like that you wonder for a long time whether they will ever come back.

And no, it wasn't someone any of us knew or had ever seen before. It was probably some guy hopped up on drugs. Drugs apparently give people a shitload of strength.

The only reason this guy wasn't successful was sheer luck (and God). He pounded my backdoor and when we saw him going along the side, something told me to quickly apply the front locks. If you think you are brave wait until you see a crazy person trying to attack you in what appeared to be a drug fueled rage. And...seeing the wooden door frame gradually separate as the psycho beats the living crap out of it.

I was only quick enough to put one of the three locks on "on inspiration" cause I seriously didn't know what the hell was happening. I had to apply the second strongest lock on that door as the guy was pounding. Which didn't go in easily as the door was becoming separate from the frame at the time.

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Anyway, enough with the jokes, the kkk pic is way over the top, bud. The whole crazy intruder bit doesn't help.
3931  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 04, 2013, 07:16:05 AM
@ PG

So what is the trick in getting him to ignore you? Whats the magic behind your secret?
3932  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 04, 2013, 06:56:04 AM
?

Addressing some of your delusions. Why is it that you somehow think I will travel thousands of miles to talk to you?

Are you a bit nutty under that cap or what?

And if this fear is founded, have you also threatened every other member who has had contact with you or even "dox'ed" you? Compared to them I don't even hold a candle of the same degree of tenacity?  (Yet you appear to think I somehow do?)

Personally, I found Mem's posts a bit more disturbing. PG (you know that guy who has massive Google-FU ability) has done quite a shitload of research apparently. He probably knows what is under my left shoe. Yet somehow you keep focusing in on me? Sounds like a personal vendetta...perhaps you are actually stalking me?

(I am in the Avalon thread after all.)



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How many people have you actually threatened (and their family) besides me with some kind of false allegation? How many supposed "stalkers" are present on this very forum?

(PG at least right?)

Considering you are (IMO) a raving lunatic who hurls insults (and it doesn't seem to matter who it is that is in your way while you do it) I believe. I am the one who should be afraid for my life. You have all that Pre-Order money to stalk me with and all that. (Am I kidding?)

I mean I don't even know where you are in Kansas (nor do I care). I don't even know what you last name is. I guess this is what it is like to have an actual stalker?

You know where I live, (I didn't tell you nor offer to tell you).
You know what my family members are called by their first names (again, I didn't tell you nor did I offer that to you).
You took a company complaint to heart and intercepted a private communication with your employer (BFL) as far as I can see.

That is when your allegations pretty much started.

I recall you made comments about how "pretty" I was at that time. Even made some creepy weirdo type of comments that I still vaguely remember.

Oh and this happened when I still had barely ten posts directed at you. I recall typing that too in my response. Sounds like a vendetta to me.
3933  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 04, 2013, 05:25:43 AM
@ Inaba

Please do yourself a favor and ignore me. If I am as retarded as you believe, then you stand to lose absolutely nothing of value.

Now, lets bring this thread back on track. It's about Avalon and not you. Wink
3934  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 04, 2013, 05:17:51 AM
Even though FCmatt and I are at odds usually, it's nice to know at least he has a brain, unlike PuertoRetard.  
Yes, he does. He actually makes a good number of points.


Nathanrees apparently is capable of intelligent thought as well, quite refreshing.  PuertoLibre, you could take a lesson from these two:  They know how to read and understand what they read.  You should try it sometime.



His profile says he is a "BFL Apologist". Most of the time he is. So....umm, so far you have one person on your side on this. (?)

<Shrug> Should I have been impressed?
3935  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 04, 2013, 05:15:05 AM
@ Mem

That is a seriously disturbing pic.
3936  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 03, 2013, 09:45:05 PM
Not disparaging the Avalon team,
as I have no idea what they are planning



... but it's not like China
has a great track record
when it comes to IP and copyrights. 



If they did release it without the source,
realistically, what is the recourse? 



Pretty much zip.


A poem ---by Inaba @ BFL
3937  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 03, 2013, 07:17:08 PM



PS - You are the only one focusing on Chinese people.  I have been commenting on Chinese law, which is established fact.  The fact that you are bringing race into it makes me believe you are in fact quite racist. 
What? Is this one more deluded thought running inside your mind? Go ahead, make it an even dozen.

3938  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 03, 2013, 07:12:50 PM
Like I said, you are so deluded that it's impossible to argue with someone who doesn't even understand what he's arguing about.  Enjoy your fantasy land.


PS - You are the only one focusing on Chinese people.  I have been commenting on Chinese law, which is established fact.  The fact that you are bringing race into it makes me believe you are in fact quite racist.  
It's more like you are trying to cover up a few bad incidents where you got dumber by every successive post.

You went from racial profiling to calling a customer a "fucking idiot" twice in less than 5 posts. (I am guessing it is five, might be less than that).

When approached by that BFL customer seeking some kind of [verbal] recompense you simply told them off despite that knowledge.

I would say your profile is one of intense anger or simply not giving a damn.
3939  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 03, 2013, 06:56:57 PM
PuertoLibre... you have surpassed your past stupdity by leaps and bounds. I simply can't argue any more with your brand of stupid.  If you want to go on believing, in the face of thousands of documents to the contrary, that China does not have an IP protection problem, you go right on ahead. Everyone else here and literally EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD knows it's a problem. Even China knows it a problem and is trying to fix it (you even linked to it) but in your typical fashion, you deny the facts and just go with your own brand of fantasy.  You are, truly and in every sense of the word, an idiot.


My position is that it is a problem everywhere. China is no exception nor even exceptional. Again, pick up on the not so subtle hints of what is written, Josh.

FOCUSING in on the Chinese people and remarking that they have a serious IP problem is tantamount to denying the rest of the world (including your own homeland) are somehow in a less serious condition. The first thought that crossed my mind (as apparently it did in other readers) "is this guy serious?"

It was a discriminatory shot aimed at the Avalon Team based on their nationality. Reducing (perhaps a dozen) individuals into a stereotype with intent on exclusivity.

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Example,

That is like me saying "those Russians" have a problem with "abandoned children" on the streets. (As if the rest of the world doesn't?)

I'd have to ask myself (if I were intelligent enough) why am I focusing in on one nationality? Is this a problem of perspective or a problem rooted in racial stereotyping? Are they "Human" [same as me] or are they particularly more degenerate in some way? Perhaps they love their children less and therefore abandon them frequently? Look, this statistic says it is so! Those loveless Russians!

It is a slippery slope of stupidity. Make sure you don't go down hill like a simpleton.
3940  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: January 03, 2013, 05:00:54 AM
Kaerf and PuertoLibre, you two are the only ones focusing in on people.  I made mention of Chinese IP laws (or lack thereof, or lack of enforcement, take your pick) and made absolutely no mention of people.

How the two of you go from this:

Quote
but it's not like China has a great track record when it comes to IP and copyrights.  If they did release it without the source, realistically, what is the recourse?  Pretty much zip.

to

OMG RACISM!  is truly a mystery, and one best left unplumbed I would wager.  I'm frightened as to what I might find in the minds of people who can't connect two simple dots sitting right next to each other.
China does enforce IP laws.

You are the only one who seemingly lost on this point.

This is like Yifu saying Americans don't respect IP laws because they had <Napster/Scour/Fill in 30 plus others> then quoting a statistic.

Common man, get off that high horse, it's a "general people" problem...not a nation in particular.

Your proposal that the Chinese (or their governments) don't honor IP laws is out of touch with reality. You can play the poll/statistics game to give any side of an argument the advantage. Even up to two people citing completely contradictory points and still call both perfectly valid.

PS -

Quote
Last I recall the Chinese Government was working pretty hard to crack down on IP violations and piracy in their hopeful admittance to the WTO (World Trade Organization) and becoming a member of something...which I do not recall what it was anymore.

Why would they be doing this if it's not a huge problem in China?  If it was just as rampant all over the world, how could they be rejected from the WTO on those grounds and why would they need to curb it?  Logic fail.



Slow poke, learn to actually read what positions others take.

I have taken the position that it is a General issue of Humanity. I never took the position that they don't have an IP problem. (So does America, Europe...etc)

I even went as far as pointing out the concept of IP issues being present _Everywhere_. From individuals to Corporations.
(Yes Josh, this includes all regions on Earth; yes even in orbit!). Some space faring astronaughts bring their MP3's in their vast silence of space. (LOL, not kidding on this)

The Onus is on you to prove that the Chinese people are somehow different (?or especially pirate prone?) than the rest of Humanity. If you are willing to go with that argument I think BFL would dump you before we are even 72 hours into 2013. The smart thing to do would be to apologize for any misunderstandings you might have caused.

Have you ever downloaded an [illegal] MP3? Well, does that mean our American Government doesn't [?effectively?] enforce IP laws? Do you know what the actual enforcement rate is for piracy? I mentioned that point early on. Did you notice at the beginning I stated that Americans along with other multi-nationals groups produced the main tools used in Piracy?


Josh you are a hopeless fellow. You don't even know when to call a "Logic Fail".

Don't stop trying though.
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