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3921  Other / Off-topic / Re: Job Vs Bitcoin on: October 04, 2017, 11:44:00 AM
I would like to say that" focus on both " both are good and necessary for our life.Job gives us stable income every month,but bitcoin cant give us stable income.some it give us to much profit and sometimes its decreased a lot.
I agree with you, focusing on both things is the best because it will help you to get two sources of income which is great for a person who want something stable and kind of aggressive source of income. Bitcoin and a regular job will surely help you to earn more money than the others and if you will earn enough money then that is the time where you are going to leave your work and focus in building your own business.

Yes, focusing on both will bring you much better let say money solution.
Most who have full time job sit in some offices and have access to internet this gives them opportunity to do both for price of one.

They have advantage working usual desk job and in some small breaks they can research something and later share this, think that this is good opportunity for this situation.
Basing it on my personal experience I don't think that all people can manage on focusing both earning Bitcoin and working on a regular job. Sometimes even me as a student is always busy in the school even if the classes are over I still have school work to do. Also one of my friend who is already working can't even complete the minimum requirement for his signature campaign as he told me that his work is tiring him not to mention that his time is also taken away from commuting going to work and going back to his home. As you can see not all can manage to focus on both.
3922  Economy / Economics / Re: IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF A PRICE REDUCTION FOR FUTURE BITCOIN on: October 04, 2017, 10:11:25 AM
There is always a possibility of it crashing a little bit where you can buy the dip but never more than $500 will it dip. It is getting more stable and more secure so just be grateful that you have a chance to buy below 10k.
There is no need of pondering over whether to invest into bitcoin or not. There is no doubt that we should be thankful to God for getting involved into bitcoin when the prices are damn low as compared to the predicted values of the next year of bitcoin. Bitcoin are going to touch 10k in the next year as they are highly expected to be at 5k dollars by the end of this year.
You are too confident that Bitcoin will double in value in just one year, it is hard to make assumptions without a factual basis in your answer. What I like about you is that you are optimistic about investing in Bitcoin but sometimes the optimism of a person can make him lose a lot of money. It is better to make your trades based on your own analysis and not based on what your gut tells you.
3923  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: October 04, 2017, 07:27:54 AM
Make money from money actually is right but not simple that you have money and you will earn money from it for real, you could lose all the money which you spend to earn profit money. Except having money, you have to prepare a good plan with good stragedy and manage it perfectly. In investing or trading , you need to choose the right advise which bring you to heaven with your own money.
Exactly, we all want money but risking our money to make money seems to be the most dangerous or the riskiest way of making money.
When we will go in that journey, we need to make sure we have enough money so it could justify the time and effort we spend, we should be serious
with our goal and we cannot do that if we do not have enough savings.
Well it is really the only way to be rich in what you are doing, if you are scared to invest your own money then you are stuck in only relying on your own salary. With that kind of future I am afraid that you will be only an employee for the rest of your life, people who wants to get out of the rat race are people who are willing to risk their own savings and capital as they are afraid that one day they retire they don't have anything to depend on but the money that will came from their pensions or their retirement funds (if they have any).
3924  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we make more money? on: October 04, 2017, 04:04:25 AM
Everyone is trying to make their business bigger by their own way . Trying to learn details about the trading world is a very good step into making a lot of money specially in crypto world ! You can also expose your services for the people if you are good at doing something like designing threads or images for campaigns or translating wallpapers .

Trading it is worth when you know how to trade in bitcoin world, it was too risky because sometimes you cane earn big profit and have also a chance only. But you can do some services as you said thats true but you need some skills if you need to do that.

Study hard and hard working to get the succesfull life so that you earn a money and donot for get to pray to GOd...

Pray on god its is our priority before we enter in the job we doing, Study hard learn everything it will be successful in your life. Even in bitcoin world you need that also.
Gaining more knowledge is nothing if you end up failing in what you are thinking to do. A successful business is built by massive amounts of planning and during the development you they will need a lot of improvement in their plan. As you can see if you don't have the way of implementing the knowledge you gain in what you will do you will end up earning nothing in the process.
3925  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is instant way to get rich ? on: October 03, 2017, 04:21:38 PM
Only if you have a load of perserverence and patience...If bought bitcoins at 5k and dropped to 3k recently...Wow so many people sold...But I hodl...Gosh So stressed out being a HODLer...Bitcoin to the moon i'd say

Yes even in any other business or investment, bitcoin needs patience and perseverance.  Not only that but with hardwork and enthusiasm.  It is not an instant way but we can be rich in due time.  Actually depends on how many can you make per day.  If all was compounded or saved then we can be all rich but not instant.
It is true the bitcoin has the high potential to increase your money and to make you get rich in very short time. The value of the bitcoin is increasing and the time of the increase in price id getting low so the bitcoin has the high value if you will invest in bitcoin today and holds your bitcoin for the long time then you will be able to increase your income with some days.
Even if you have earned 2000$ from that trade you won't be considered rich as you are not financially free. When you look at the volatility aspect of Bitcoin you will see that it may take more than a week for Bitcoin to recover fully and not all people have the luxury of time to wait that long. To keep it short Bitcoin is not an instant way to get rich as even though it is more volatile than any fiat currency it is not enough to make someone rich overnight. The only ones making Bitcoin rich right now are the people who are already rich.
3926  Economy / Economics / Re: Difference of Trading and Investing? on: October 03, 2017, 03:22:32 PM
Both of them are similar in some degree but different, let me break it down for you.

Trading
You buy low and sell high (which is hard to get the timing for most of the people, most of the time people are buying high and selling low.)
The difference between your sell and buy is your profit / loss.
You need to be active.
Also called short-term investing

Investing
You buy and wait till you have multiplied X your initial investment and then sell.
You don't need to be active, but you must choose your investment wisely.
Usually called mid to long-term investing.
Buying Low and Selling high actually is the main point of both Trading and Investing because that is how you profit in the first place. Also trading is not called "short-term investing" it is a different thing, in trading you based your buying and selling decisions in the technical aspect of the asset while in investing you are basing your decisions in the fundamental aspect of the asset.
3927  Other / Off-topic / Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin on: October 03, 2017, 10:20:25 AM
Young people should take higher risks and diversify their portfolio, and bitcoin can supplement that.

A better phrase would be "buy bitcoin instead of doing vices" because at least with bitcoin, you can theoretically lose it all but you'll still retain your health.
I think otherwise. I think this will not be a wise decision by any youngster to invest all of his earnings into Bitcoin and that in that age when he don’t have enough knowledge about Bitcoin and all that stuff. In fact, I’ll advise him to invest a portion of his earning and learn the things well before taking any big step.
I totally agree with you. Going all in on something that you don't fully know has major consequences as the risk will be at its maximum because you are not prepared at what might happen. Spending more time on learning how to trade especially learning how to analyze charts is a much more effective way in reducing your risk and increasing the chances of you earning something from Bitcoin.
3928  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much risk in bitcoin investement ? on: October 03, 2017, 09:27:12 AM
The same risk you can find in other stock markets. Just like I want to say low on Bitcoin risk and I actually believe Bitcoin is more secure, so we can invest Bitcoin without risk.
there will be some risk in every type on investment and yes if you invest in such a good brand in the stock market there is some kind of risk in it as well so, you can see it previous performance and rise of price and imagine its future so, i think it is much much secure investment but i think the margin of profit is not so, high in short time so, it is secure but some other altcoins are good as well.
Are you even thinking what you are saying? Buying Bitcoin is so risky that I won't even consider it as some kind of "investment" but it is a form of " trading" in which you can profit from it more in a short term period. Also it does not have the same risk as the stocks in the stock market have in fact Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency has more risk. Compared to stocks in the stock market that most of them have a stable price because the price of stocks are the reflection of the company's performance.
3929  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as salary for a regular job? on: October 02, 2017, 03:18:12 PM
no, bitcoin as work and extra income for me, because working in bitcoin does not spend my time, I also have a job and a fixed salary in a company.
I don't think that you have understand the topic or the question fully. OP is questioning you if you will accept Bitcoin payment for your salary in the replacement of your Fiat Currency? Why or why not. For it is a matter of risk if you are willing to accept Bitcoin regularly as a mode of payment for your salary as you are trying to get more while taking the chance to get less with what you will receive as your salary because of the volatility involve with Bitcoin.
3930  Economy / Economics / Re: Can bitcoin improve the economy of a country? on: October 02, 2017, 11:15:20 AM
Yes, ofcourse. Bitcoin can definitely improve the economy of a country because of this reason. Because of bitcoin you can import a money into our country and that way could affect the price of our local money because the supply of our money will increase.


Nice example but for this local banks need to accept transfers in bitcoin, many bank dont allow this in some countries.
But this is nice example of how it could be used in way to increase one country economy and not just that.
Having an influx of Bitcoin in another country does not instantly improve the economy of the country who receive the Bitcoin, it does not even increase the "supply of your money". In order for Bitcoin to improve the economy of a country it needs to see Bitcoin as a mode of payment not only by its local citizens but also the tourist of their country. With this kind of transaction we will definitely boost the economy of that country in terms of income for the government in the form of taxes.
3931  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you a True Believer? on: October 02, 2017, 08:56:32 AM
I don't think that the creator of Bitcoin's main purpose is to replace Fiat Currency but I believe they created it as some kind of alternative to the payment methods we have right now. Being a true believer does not mean using what it is intended to be, you can be a true believer of Bitcoin just by buying or holding it in your wallet for the purpose of profiting from it which is another way to believe in Bitcoin. As others in FOREX do it as well as they believe in what they invest into.
3932  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can be a key for us to become successful person? on: October 01, 2017, 05:19:40 PM
Well it does not mean that if there are people who became rich with Bitcoin automatically makes other newcomers a rich person. Let us be realistic here and look at the current situation compared to before. Before you can buy Bitcoin at its lowest price which it was priced below 100$ right now you can't even buy one whole Bitcoin for 4000$ which is really expensive, where if you are hoping for it to double in value won't make you rich because you just have doubled your money. Now the most profitable way to earn in Bitcoin is through trading which is harder than investing as you need to study technical analysis in order to be successful in your trades.
3933  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: JP Morgan CEO Jamie -says "BTC is worse than Tulip Bubble" calls it a fraud on: October 01, 2017, 12:56:43 PM
With these kinds of FUDs, Jamie really has become famous even among crypto users. They must be glad now. At least they had achieved attention. People like him just want to get highlighted in the news. They themselves knows the true power of bitcoins and this is the reason why JP Morgan itself has bitcoins. A very good drama they had created indeed!
Anyways, nothing can destroy bitcoins and yes banks feel threaten by bitcoins.
Here we go again with the "banks are threatened/scared of Bitcoin" statement where there is no legitimate showing that it is happening right now. Banks are separate entities which a lot of companies depend their funding from, while Bitcoin as of now does not show that kind of power where it can fund a big company. Banks are also has the ability to adapt and for sure you have seen Bitcoin Visa Debit Card which are issued by different banks of several countries, I don't think that by creating a debit card based on Bitcoin shows that they are scared of it.
3934  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ban in South Korea on: October 01, 2017, 10:08:07 AM
I don't think after regulating several cryptocurrency exchanges in South Korea they will ban Bitcoin. Clearly this are rumors which I don't know where you heard it because there will be no factual basis on the news you heard. Additionally reading official news about how South Korea sees the potential of Cryptocurrency in general for its tourist visitors use as a mode of payment and for their convenience in not converting their money to Korean Won will clearly wipe off the rumor you picked off.
3935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: October 01, 2017, 05:03:37 AM
And the Minnesota Timberwolves have showed how a terrific team they are showing the Los Angeles Lakers that they were not the team last season. Yes I know it is just a pre season game but winning at 108-99 shows that they are playing like a regular game in the season. Some points I have seen during the game.
  • All Timberwolves' players played under 30 minutes where Shabazz Muhammad played for 29 minutes
  • Were Muhammad scored 22 pts at 58%
  • The 2nd unit of the timberwolves in the game can match their starters
  • Seeing Gorgui Dieng and Taj Gibson play I don't know who will start during the regular season
  • Surprisingly Lonzo Ball showed some good all around game
  • Funny Note : Tyler Ennis' Jersey getting rip during the game
I agree with what you have said. I also loved how Tom Thibodeu played the Bench players to start to finish of the 4th quarter, even though Jordan Clarkson was still on the floor Thibs didn't show any interest on subbing anyone out. Shabazz Muhammad for 1.6 Million Dollars per year showed that his performance is bang for the back for the team. I just hope he will show his a game in the regular season and hopefully in the playoffs. Jeff Teague also showed us that he is an upgrade to Ricky Rubio which showed that making dimes won't be a problem without Ricky on the team.
3936  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is changing the world. on: September 30, 2017, 06:33:21 PM
I think you have missed one word to make your statements a fact ant that word to be added is "will". Because honestly as of right now I don't think that the majority of the population has been affected by Bitcoin. In the business sector a few businesses adapted and accept Bitcoin as a mode of payment the rest still only accept fiat currency and cash cards. They barely even see what Bitcoin can give to their businesses. Also I don't think that saving all your savings into Bitcoin is a good idea because it will be subject to volatility which is a really bad idea if you are protecting your assets.
3937  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I told my grandma to put all her lifesavings in Bitcoin because you guys said on: September 29, 2017, 01:15:43 AM
this quote from lasher posted by cointelegraph is good advice.


It does apply to all kinds of investments not only in Investing the worst part with this situation is that he made his grandpa invest all his life saving in Bitcoin. It is more of like an experimentation rather than a help for your grandfather. I just hope you and your grandpa won't learn investing in a hard way. As for your part having your own research is a good idea as you cannot rely to any personal views about investing to a random people online even the ones they call good sourced these days are hard to be trusted.
3938  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is the presence of Bitcoin able to wipe out cash? on: September 27, 2017, 11:27:47 AM
It is really not that hard to look at the future of Bitcoin, and right now I am seeing that Bitcoin won't replace anything yet. Bitcoin is suited to become an option not a replacement because we are talking about fiat currency where it is an official currency of a certain country. That a decentralized currency where the government does not have any control of won't be even considered as a replacement, it is for our own safety as a currency that is volatile will affect their economy greatly.
3939  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin be used by ordinary citizens? on: September 27, 2017, 08:35:52 AM
I really dont know yet but base on my observation with my girlfriend, she is having a hard time to understand. Maybe because of lack of passion with technology.
One of my friend too that is a lady is having a hard time to start. It seems ladies are not into it, just selected ones. With guys everyone I talk too easily sees it as a good asset when you explain the basics. So I guess the answer will be, it depends to the person you are talking to.
We cannot really push someone into using Bitcoin if they really don't have any interest in it, you and them will be having a hard time in both explaining and understanding. If your friends really don't have a good use to Bitcoin the best thing to do is to stop pursuading them as you are just wasting your time to them. If I were you I will just explain Bitcoin to people who are really interested in it.
3940  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Earning enough with Bitcoin without Job ? on: September 27, 2017, 04:46:12 AM
Yes it is possible but will I suggest doing it instead of a real job? Then no. Yes I know earning Bitcoin online is possible in many ways but the one thing I am concerned the most is its volatility and making a volatile currency as your main income can cause you a lot of problems because your buying power will be different from each period you might by lesser items compared to last week and you might buy more compared to other weeks.if you are looking for sustainability than you might need to find a job paying with fiat currency.
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