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39201  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What will do Obama if Ebola will come to Whitehouse from foreign leaders staff on: October 26, 2014, 03:29:39 PM
Well, if Obama contracts ebola, he certainly wouldn't commit suicide to protect the rest of the country from himself. Otherwise he would have killed himself already, if he wanted to protect the country, that is.

Smiley
39202  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Title: Near Zero Bitcoin Transaction Fees Cannot Last Forever on: October 26, 2014, 03:27:01 PM
How would you get rid of fees? Miners aren't likely to support a fork without the ability for miners to set a fee requirement to process blocks. Actually, I'm not sure how feasible such a fork would be without entirely removing even voluntary fees. Do that, and you run a serious risk of undermining Bitcoin's security model in the long term.

Without fees, you're left with trusting the preset reward rate to be optimal to guarantee sufficient interest by honest miners to ward off hashpower attacks. Fees provide important room to increase the network hashrate from what the reward rate alone could support.

Fees are voluntary, aren't they? So, allow them, since people love to donate money to places where they don't see where it is going. Consider taxes. The IRS says they are voluntary. Yet you don't know where yours go. So, make the only change necessary. Advertise in big bold letters, right inside the next version of the client, that they can be erased if they are found to exist automatically whenever you send.

Smiley
39203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First time in over 5000 years.. on: October 26, 2014, 03:21:28 PM
The Great Flood of Noah's day was only about 4300 to 4400 years ago. Since that flood wiped everyone except Noah's family from off the earth, that means that the currency system isn't more than that old.

In addition, the currency almost assuredly wasn't used by Noah. What would he use it for? Any barter he did, would have been between him and his children and grand children, etc. Who needs money for that?

Probably the oldest money system that we could connect to is way less than 4000 years old.

Smiley
39204  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Title: Near Zero Bitcoin Transaction Fees Cannot Last Forever on: October 26, 2014, 03:13:01 PM
Look, if I have some bitcoins, and I send them somewhere, why should I or the receiver pay to send or receive them? The whole Internet runs off whatever money people pay their ISPs, etc.  Why should I have to pay more to use this Bitcoin thing, when I spent money to get the bitcoins I have in the first place? Bitcoin fees are stupid. They are not supply and demand oriented.

Where do bitcoins come from? Miners mine them. Miners spend time and money for computers, ASICs, electricity, wiring, etc., so that they can mine bitcoins. If they have bitcojns that they mined, they have them. If the miners won't sell until the price is right, we have a rise in the Bitcoin price. All the stupid fees do is to keep the price down.

Forget the fees altogether. When miners need to make more just to pay their bills, all they have to do is hoard bitcoins until the price is right. That's what the free market is all about. If the fees disappeared altogether, the price of bitcoins would rise. Fees are like a form of centralization. Get rid of the stupid fees.

HOWEVER, this being a free market, if you want to donate fees to some unnamed cause, go ahead. It's a free market!

Smiley
39205  Other / Off-topic / Re: If you can get a wife from another country - which country wife you choose ? on: October 26, 2014, 02:54:30 AM
When you marry a woman, you are marrying her family. Why? Because she has her family built into her from being raised by them. And depending on how long her family was living in their country, you will be marrying her country, as well - or at least, the country her family came from.

Think about this well. You could be asking for a lot of turmoil in your life, simply by marrying into a country that is not compatible with yours.

If you live in Western Europe, or much of the Americas, you are a person of Christian tradition - even if you are not a Christian, because the Americas have Christianity built into their culture - and you marry someone from Southeast Asia, you will be marrying into Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, or some similar tradition. Is this what you want? You may be able to adapt somewhat, and she may be able to adapt somewhat, but it WILL ultimately be a struggle.

Smiley
39206  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you live in Mars? on: October 26, 2014, 02:42:40 AM
We could live inside Mars. After all, isn't the moon really like the "Death Star" in Star Wars? Look at the picture, below. Isn't that big crater really the main communications/power dish? So, if the moon is hollow, like the Death Star, and if Mars isn't already hollow, couldn't we hollow it out and live inside?




Smiley
39207  Other / Off-topic / Re: I know there is no such thing as 'free energy' but what if it was possible? on: October 26, 2014, 02:33:58 AM
nothing in life is for free.

The most important things in life are free. after all, if you didn't have your body, your mind, your emotions, and your soul and spirit, ALL OF THEM GIVEN TO YOU FOR FREE, where could you go to get them? There isn't a person on earth who could give them to you - except your parents, the first time - or give them back to you if you lost them.

All of our energy comes to us freely, from the sun, and the movements and motions of the earth and moon. The part that isn't quite free is tapping into this free energy.

In the sense of pure free energy, or perpetual energy, the energy in nature may end some time. But as things stand now, it is so fantastically greater, and more abundant, than we could ever use as people, that it is essentially extremely free.

Smiley
39208  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Joke known as U.S. Congress now worry about Bitcoin on: October 26, 2014, 02:22:58 AM
The U.S. Congress may have a lot of power, but yours, individually, is greater. However, if you don't know it, odds are that you will never use it, at least not effectively.

If you want to move a muscle guy, you have to have muscle yourself. At least, you are going to need some leverage. You don't simply wake up in the morning with either. You need to get information on how to build muscle, and where to go to get leverage. And then you need to work out. It isn't easy, but the rewards are satisfying.

Check the links below to see if you want to build muscle and gain leverage to use against government in the United States if necessary, and a whole lot more.

Bill Thornton common law 5 parts:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Bill_T._common_law_5_parts

Three audios explaining the power you have in the court system:
http://1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/lectures/introduction/index.html

Once you finish the above, Youtube search "Karl Lentz common law" to see how to simply use what you learned in the videos and audios.

Smiley
39209  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you live in Mars? on: October 25, 2014, 03:41:56 PM
Before you go, be sure to read Podkayne of Mars by Robert A. Heinlein.   Grin
39210  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 25, 2014, 03:35:02 PM
@BitChick @BADecker

Do you want to know why you should not consider it harmless to maintain your religious beliefs?

Because they require you to induce 'magical thinking' and 'thought avoidance' in order to ensure that the intellectually honest part of your psyche, your subconscious, does not break it down into its component parts and inform your conscious self of the truth of the delusion.

This means you are living a life of persistent neurological stress, with raised levels of cortisol causing a dysfunctional stress-response as it can never resolve the dichotomy between what you wish reality to be, versus what your brain knows reality to be.

It is an abusive relationship, between you and your theism. The theism causes stress levels to rise when you encounter conflicting positions about your reality, and when you cannot conjure up a sufficient resolution to the conflict, you double-down and immerse yourself more into your theist narrative by seeking ways to wrap it around you tighter, adding layers of explanations as to why your mythical deity might permit so much horror and abuse in our lives if he is so powerful, you dream up excuses for him, to explain away the lack of intervention in natural disasters or personal suffering, all the while looking for ways to pretend to yourself that the good in your life is a reward from him and the bad is simply him testing you, you know, because he loves you so.

It is disturbingly akin to the type of relationship that develops between a parent and the child they routinely abuse. The child seeks to excuse the behaviour of their parent, seeks to be able to find ways to get the parent to love them and approve of them, the child blames themselves for when the parent gets mad and hurts them and the child is elated and grateful to the parent when there are moment of fleeting reward from them.

You keep citing 'science' to support your position when, the truth is, your sources are utter crap. That's not science its pseudoscience reverse-engineered to support the end position of the theist delusion. It is mangled data and shonky interpretations designed to ensure that A+B=Bible.

Stop quoting 'facts' as facts, they are not. You are so terribly, terribly, wrong it isn't even funny. You have been, and are being, brainwashed and conditioned to readily accept the worst examples of theist 'scientific data' solely on the basis that they worked back from where they wanted to get to and ignored and discarded all the data that didn't fit their requirements.

You boldly assert things as true which are absolutely absurd. You make grand statements about your God's behaviour and intentions, as if these things are facts when they are simply what you have been told to believe.

Tell me, what's the difference between your God and Harry Potter? What aspects of your God exists outside of your imagination?



And here I was hoping it wouldn't be so painful. I mean the part about being faithful to God so that I get eternal life in the resurrection.

Smiley
39211  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 25, 2014, 03:49:14 AM

You don't need a deity to make the right choices in life, you've already proved that to yourself.



The "deity" gave me free will but His Spirit helps me make the right choices all of the time.

And I very much NEED a "diety!"  I need God to pay the price for the sinful choices I have made or the price I will pay is an eternal one.

But you have said that you believe that you have the power in yourself.  That is the risk you are willing to take with your soul.  I would just question if that risk is a good one and if it will work for you if you happen to be wrong.   Will believing in ourselves be enough to pay the price for our sins?



Your being does not contain within it entropy sufficient for "free[dom]." (And, indeed, it is for "His Spirit" that you have so known deprivation.)

The flaw in your thinking is that you missed the part about, while God exists within this universe (for His own pleasure), He also exists entirely without the universe. God, neither entropy or non-entropy.

Smiley

“Entropy,” within American English, may refer to “a trend to disorder” (which neither yourself nor “BitChick” seem to exhibit—considering your consistency). Without disorder, one proceeds within defined bounds and, thus, proves constrained—not "free."

Entropy is visible in all of us, though it isn't very evident from one day to the next. It's called aging. The higher order of natural operation - such as life - the more evident entropy may be, simply because there are many more operations for it to act on.

You are a little difficult to understand at times, but if you are suggesting that people are not free, that is true from a scientific standpoint. There is no evidence of anything other than cause and effect, except perhaps, in higher math, where you can often prove things opposite of each other if you work at it hard enough.

Smiley
39212  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 24, 2014, 09:10:53 PM

The fact that you believe this life is all there is a very sad and depressing thought.


Herein lies the truth. Religious folk simply can't accept that this is their one and only life.

There is absolutely nothing in evolution theory that suggests a way that the diversity and complexity in nature could have happened.

In the face of the laws of probability along with the apparent entropy we see all around, evolution is an absolute impossibility.

In fact, the continual political-like hollering of atheists and others is the only thing that keeps the idea of evolution alive.

With the creation of the Internet, as people come to realize the truth that evolution is impossible, even the hollering will soon die.

Smiley

It's actually quite simple really. A change in environment causes evolutionary changes in species in an attempt to adapt better to said environment. If there was no diversity in environments then perhaps your statement may have a chance to hold true. Then again maybe you're right and god just made different races of people to give us another reason to go to hell for being racist. Yeah, that makes more sense.  Roll Eyes

Oh, now don't start getting upset (unless you really want to, that is).

No matter how you look at it, diversity, combined with probability, combined with entropy, entirely disallows any form of evolution we can dream up, not just as some kind of improbability, but rather as an absolute impossibility.

Do the math. Then look somewhere else. Evolution is (and always has been, really) dead. The fact that it is written in the books will make it take a long time before its death is apparent.

Smiley

EDIT: I should have added universe complexity in there.

LOL! I'm not mad. Are you? Obviously, I don't take these "debates" seriously, since I find your arguments to be quite flawed. I find it mildly entertaining at best.

I'm pretty sure Einstein had religious people in mind when he said, “A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. So is a lot.” The "little" being what they know of science and reality, the "a lot" being what they assume of god.

Unfortunately, "a little knowledge" is what the scientific community has, with regard to what there is to know. They will admit this themselves if you ask them. I say "unfortunately" because I, too, am a scientist at heart, and would like to see real results.

Modern science simply doesn't have enough information to determine either the age of the earth/universe, or that evolution does really exist (I'm talking about basic evolution here... the beginnings of life). So far, everything that has been discovered can be attributed to other things besides that commonly held scientific understandings of the age of universe and evolution. Many of the findings while seeming to be evidence of these, are also evidence of the exact opposite - no evolution and short age of the universe.

The reason for the modern, wide spread evolution theme lies in publishing done by people and groups who would like to see certain things happen in a political way. They are hiding the fact of the scientific "if" while promoting the "if" research as fact or near fact. And, unfortunately, they are having an effect of moving populations into believing something that is just not true... at least not proven true.

Then there are the people who are hired by the above mentioned, political movers, to cloud the fact of the "if." Whenever someone brings up clear, logical points - like combining universe complexity, probability, and real entropy, or like the fact of the "if" itself - they simply talk it down, whitewash it over, so that clear thinking remains hidden as much as possible.

Well, I suppose doing this political propagandizing is easier - and probably more profitable - than actually thinking, or getting out there and doing some research.

Smiley
39213  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Treadmill of Atheism on: October 24, 2014, 07:52:01 PM

Lack of evidence + conclusion = belief
Atheism BY DEFINITION is a belief.

ATHEISM:
Full Definition of ATHEIST
:  one who believes that there is no deity

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist

Origin

late 16th century: from French athéisme, from Greek atheos, from a- 'without' + theos 'god'.



And because it is an organized system of beliefs, having high priests called scientists, and a god of self (because atheists claim they are the ones who are right), Atheism is a religion, and the word should be capitalized.

Smiley
39214  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 24, 2014, 07:46:49 PM

The fact that you believe this life is all there is a very sad and depressing thought.


Herein lies the truth. Religious folk simply can't accept that this is their one and only life.

There is absolutely nothing in evolution theory that suggests a way that the diversity and complexity in nature could have happened.

In the face of the laws of probability along with the apparent entropy we see all around, evolution is an absolute impossibility.

In fact, the continual political-like hollering of atheists and others is the only thing that keeps the idea of evolution alive.

With the creation of the Internet, as people come to realize the truth that evolution is impossible, even the hollering will soon die.

Smiley

It's actually quite simple really. A change in environment causes evolutionary changes in species in an attempt to adapt better to said environment. If there was no diversity in environments then perhaps your statement may have a chance to hold true. Then again maybe you're right and god just made different races of people to give us another reason to go to hell for being racist. Yeah, that makes more sense.  Roll Eyes

Oh, now don't start getting upset (unless you really want to, that is).

No matter how you look at it, diversity, combined with probability, combined with entropy, entirely disallows any form of evolution we can dream up, not just as some kind of improbability, but rather as an absolute impossibility.

Do the math. Then look somewhere else. Evolution is (and always has been, really) dead. The fact that it is written in the books will make it take a long time before its death is apparent.

Smiley

EDIT: I should have added universe complexity in there.
39215  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin changing my ideology from socialism to libertarianism! What about you? on: October 24, 2014, 07:39:11 PM
    About 25 years ago, <two guys die trying to save a kid who also dies.  Tragic.>
 

<snip - love, empathy, God, etc>


Some Scientific American article I read a long time ago discussed birds warning of predators (or not warning as the case may be.)  They modeled the selfish gene strategy (e.g., your genetic material does better if you save your first cousin but not your second cousin who might compete with your closer relatives for instance) and found that what these birds do matches the mathematical models quite closely.

Humans evolved to live in much smaller groups and tribes.  It makes sense that one would care for and risk oneself for most persons one might find in need both because of the selfish gene principle and because of other psycho-social and economic strategies.

Some time ago I saw some video of a guy on the ledge of a building in New York with the crowd urging him on to jump.  Not a lot of empathy there.  These are the kinds of psychological things we are going to need to deal with as we ram people into large population centers in order to 'save the earth' which, as an engineering endeavor is probably inseparable from Socialism and is currently being driven by groups who are highly motivated by that line of political thought.

I believe that we have all of these mixed senses that came from our more primitive past and invent a variety of names for them, invent crazy belief systems to explain them, etc, but at the end of the day they are pretty understandable and nothing particularly special.



Nice idea.

But what it is, is, a mixture of God's original programming, mixed with the devil's counter-programming, influenced by God's counter-counter-programming, that He is using to save us all. Many will deny Him, of course, and His work won't save them.

Smiley
39216  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Treadmill of Atheism on: October 24, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
All right. So we can't prove that God exists, or that He doesn't exist.

The evidence in favor of God is far greater than anything else that makes sense.

There is nothing (certainly not evolution) that can explain the diversity of life on earth along with the complexity of the universe.

The laws of probability along with the apparent entropy show that evolution is absolutely impossible with finality in any way we can formulate it.

The things that evolution scientists are interpreting as evolution are simply a form of complex programming.

The point is, Whomever or Whatever programmed this whole thing, is, by definition of the word, God. And He/She/It isn't simply God, but rather GREAT GOD ALMIGHTY, shown simply because of how great His creation is!

Smiley
39217  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 24, 2014, 07:19:39 PM


Please talk to a psychiatrist, you seem to have very severe depression if you hate living on this planet.  Not even being Sarcastic.

Back to the topic, the science of evolution is based on observation.  We have made organisms evolve in a lab right before our eyes.  Dog breeding works the same except with humans deciding which traits to keep instead of nature.  We can observe our common ancestors by looking at the body compared to other primates.  While the fossil record is not complete, what we have so far points to evolution.  

I don't believe in spiderman because there are fans of his enemies, that is pretty much the logic you're going on for saying satanism proves it.  Same with saying gods word proves it, says so right there in the comic that he is real!

I love the beauty of God's creation that I see all around me.  I love the people that I am thankful to have relationships with.  I love the people that speak with on these boards, even if they hate me and say I need a psychiatrist. Wink

But I also see the misery of life and the hate (due to Satan's influence) that causes people to kill, steal and destroy.  There is evil all around us.  You must be marvelously blessed to have avoided the sufferings that are common to man?  Seriously.  We all deal with death, pain, sickness and so on.  This is not how God intended for us to live.  It is part of the fact we live in a fallen and not perfect world, one that eventually He will make right again.  

Dog breeding produces dogs right?  Has anyone bred a dog to become a cat?  Until I can see changes from one kind into another kind I will not believe in evolution.  There have been adaptations but these adaptations are not proof of evolution from one kind into another.  We as humans have more in common with dogs than apes so looking at the physical bodies to make comparisons is not enough.

You don't have to agree with me.   You don't have to believe in God.  That is the amazing thing about "free will."  I am just trying to encourage a few people on here to think about the risks of not believing.  If something is true then it doesn't matter if I believe it or you believe it or if any of us believes it.  If God's word is true then we will all be accountable to it.  

My point about "satanism" was just an interesting fact.  There is no other religion that has an "anti-religion" formed to fight it.  It was not proof by any means. I just figured it was an interesting thought that should at least cause us to pause and think for a minute.
You pretty much just admitted that evolution exists.  Macro evolution (changing species) is nothing more than micro evolution (changing traits) over a long period of time, to the point that one is not able to breed with another, and you have a new species just like that.  Think about domesticated dogs vs wolves and how different they are.  Over time they will become more and more different, to the point that they are no longer able to mate.  At this point you have a new species.  

For the record I don't hate you, you really did sound depressed


Adaptability is a programming feature, not an evolution feature.  Smiley
39218  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 24, 2014, 07:18:32 PM

The fact that you believe this life is all there is a very sad and depressing thought.


Herein lies the truth. Religious folk simply can't accept that this is their one and only life.

Should we accept that?  

Like I said earlier, if I am wrong what is the cost? (I followed the Bible, tried to love others with God's help, lived a joyful life only to realize at death that it was for nothing?)

For those that believe this life is all there is, what is their cost? (eternal punishment with weeping and gnashing of teeth in flames of fire)

One of these choices is riskier than the other it appears.



If all you're doing is keeping to yourself and having the occasional debate with nonbelievers, there is little cost.

However, the cost that most of us object to comes from religious folks who are so convinced they are right, they have to force other people to accept their personal truth through the use of force. I'm talking about forcing people to convert (as the Christian church has a long history of doing, not necessarily today), and using your religious texts as justification to pass laws that restrict the freedom of others (banning gay marriage and every other act that you find personally offensive because Jesus or some such).

Yep! That's the problem with a lot of religious people, especially some Christians. Even Jesus said to shake the dust off your feet as you leave.

There will come a time when the Christians do exactly that. They will shake the dust off their feet and leave. When that finally happens, then the final destruction of the ages will come on all the unbelievers.

Smiley
39219  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 24, 2014, 06:56:40 PM

The fact that you believe this life is all there is a very sad and depressing thought.


Herein lies the truth. Religious folk simply can't accept that this is their one and only life.

There is absolutely nothing in evolution theory that suggests a way that the diversity and complexity in nature could have happened.

In the face of the laws of probability along with the apparent entropy we see all around, evolution is an absolute impossibility.

In fact, the continual political-like hollering of atheists and others is the only thing that keeps the idea of evolution alive.

With the creation of the Internet, as people come to realize the truth that evolution is impossible, even the hollering will soon die.

Smiley
39220  Other / Off-topic / *Video Update* The Crash of 2014: A Special Briefing ... on: October 24, 2014, 06:47:44 PM
"The worrisome setup for these conclusions was a convergence of multiple technical indicators in a way that hasn’t been seen in decadesnot even in 2008. Starting 10 days ago, those same signals intensified, showing that the correction has begun. As the S&P 500 crossed its 200-day moving average for the first time since the last big crash, this crash moved from inevitable to imminent.

"The chart below shows price action in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, which has completely reversed course after a remarkable 1,120 day bull run, and with remarkable speed:

"

More at: http://www.caseyresearch.com/cdd/the-crash-of-2014-a-special-briefing-for-all-casey-subscribers.

Smiley
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