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3941  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto Lending Thoughts? on: January 24, 2021, 08:00:34 AM
There are a bunch of options for high interest from crypto lending.
I am biased about third party lending and I prefer p2p lending as a good source of a smallcap business, I ran one such thread in another crypto forum as well.

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1. Since you have to give possession of the coins to the lending company, they can be hacked and you can lose everything (I understand Celsius has insurance, what does it cover?)
I can tell without even looking at the terms and conditions, that the insurance will rarely be enough to cover the loss. In case of a hack, as we have seen on many exchanges and so on, the money is lost for good and nothing can be approached legally. It is a downside of these smart contract lending services.

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2. The borrower collateral will be worth nothing after a crash and you will not get the interest you are promised.
Considering lack of collateral liquidity to be a normal risk involved in lending, this is a common thing but to prevent or possibly reduce this, lenders prefer to take a higher value of the collateral (120-150% of loan value) and that too top 10 altcoins. A more diligent lender will also do a thorough research on that altcoin for possible backdoors and hackable stuff in their blockchain to prevent a theft.

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So are they all too much of a risk?
Both type of lending have pros and cons.

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What happens after a crypto crash?
What would happen to fiat markets if they crashed? Simple answer. But if you keep thinking in the lines of "world ends" you will never be able to do anything fruitful. Wink

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Or are any of them safe because they collect a lot more collateral from borrowers than is needed?
I dont think they collect too much collateral, rather the regular amounts. Have you been a borrower yet?
3942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: altocoin inovations on: January 24, 2021, 07:52:23 AM
with the future work on development, there might be varies on offers from developer that the innovation on blockchain to gives of helps as securing more on waste with times and resource that users of product and service might be gladfull to occupy the token as utility.
Innovations are one in a million, rest are just plain vaporware made to look like innovations but they work in fooling newbies into putting their money. It is the sad truth. You will rarely see a concept being conceived that is a revolutionary change but many others will try to bring out stuff looking similar and jump on the hype train. That is how majority altcoins came in existence and then go down the same rabbit hole.

We all have seen thousands of coins come in the market. But are they worth buying and holding for years? No. The reason being that none of them actually had any development going. Most ended up as financially failures or abandonware.
3943  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Earning Bitcoin whilst maintaining private keys on: January 24, 2021, 07:48:01 AM
Just wondering what might be the best way to earn more bitcoin if you have a bit and want your money to start working for you.
You expect your coins to grow limbs and a body and work? If so then you must be high on cheap weed.

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I do not want to risk losing my coins on centralised exchanges or anything like that.
If you dont take risks you dont get any reward. Sitting on your coins will not make them big but you can invest in bitcoin to buy in small amounts at every dip, which I feel is currently the most rewarding.

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I have been looking into Wrapped Bitcoin and liquidity pools and earning interest but seem to be getting lost in circles trying to find the right answers,
Because there are no straight answers in these liquidity pools. They have risks and they are not different from what staking was when it was hyped and made a fool of a lot of newbies here trying to make money by "passive income". One fine day they might decide to shut down or the ROI will no longer be enough to convince you to keep your money there.

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perhaps there isn't a way to do it now whilst still maintaining your bitcoin on your ledger or trezor or whilst maintaining your private keys?
It does not work like that. Either you have to risk the change of custody from your wallet to someone else or not take part in any money making method. Either way, having see how shady this sector is, I never suggest anybody to go with such passive income methods except one which is the casino bankroll investment, and that is completely opposite of gambling on the casino, because you are investing in the house. But very few casinos are offering it now.
3944  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will ALT have ATH again? on: January 23, 2021, 07:51:43 AM
Most of the whales and high-end investors say that the altcoin season is very soon to happen but I think this kind of statement is hopeless and somehow dangerous for the part of holders and traders. That "soon" is based on knowledgeable opinion and prediction but there is no assurance about it. We need to deal with what we have right now, as fas as we can, we need to endure and hold.
Whales and high-end investors are not here just to say words. They are here to make money. So take their words with a grain of salt. In this case the motive is clear. They wish to pump the altcoin prices so they can sell their bags and exit them finally at a profit. Without doing this they are at a loss so they try to manipulate the market sentiment in that manner.

As a trader you have to understand this and make your move in the opposite of what seems to be done. That is, sell when the prices start rising because once the small fries understand that they are being fooled, they will stop and before that whales will have sold their share.

Majority of the cases of altcoins suffer from this problem. If they had any real development going on, such pump and dump would not be so prevalent.
3945  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: MegaCryptoPolis / ETH scam on: January 23, 2021, 07:44:36 AM
I just soo that my land just disappear
Enlighten us more on this if you please.

Did you "buy" that land on the game using ETH? Have you checked their social media channels about possible news and updates on any bugs?

Worst case scenario, the owners decided to shut down the project and run away with players money. I guess this would not be the first time a dApp scams its users. Previously many faucets and all were doing the same thing. One good example was Cowkeepercoin.

Either way, you can make a scam accusation report if the owners have an account here to make other users aware of the possibility of scam. But it would not help recover any money. Legal route is there too, but that is a big grey area. Sad
3946  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Plagiarism whitepaper --DNC Diamond - High scalability and bla..bla on: January 23, 2021, 07:39:28 AM
Flag supported from my side.

Scammers use these seemingly "old" habits to trap "new" crypto users who have just entered the market and are full of enthusiasm of making money and getting the coin which is the "next" Bitcoin, while older users already know that this is only a gimmick to fool them.

For those who are reading this thread, good thing you did the effort to search out if the project is a scam or not. But make sure not to listen to any of the team's propaganda about this thread, which I am sure they have been spewing already in their social media. OP here is a scam buster and not a "competitor" of any sort.

Hoping more DT to support the flag too.
3947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with nonsignificant altcoins on: January 22, 2021, 06:52:08 AM
here we see that you have doubts about altcoin, and therefore it is better if you immediately exchange them for stable coins, USDT, USDC or DAI. because to avoid price volatility, it is likely to be very risky if it is stuck in an unstable altcoin form for too long.
I agree that having doubt about something in your portfolio, the best route to take then is to get rid of it. But moving to a stablecoin might not be what is appropriate all the time. Tether itself has a questionable supply but if you don't have any doubt about it then it is fine.

But the influx of stablecoins is something that I have been skeptical about. In other words I fell it is a mode for centralised institutions to control your money. But you are free to follow what you feel is correct.

Unstable altcoins though, be careful with them. You can never guess which pump is going to be the last so watch when you buy them.
3948  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you combat your weaknesses in trading? on: January 22, 2021, 05:21:46 AM
Referring to the OP, there are only methods to correct yourself. What problems you face are common but you can make amends to change yourself.

Also, don't fall back on  illnesses as to a reason for your problems. Many people out there are sick but working themselves out of it and seeking help.

Now in case of risk management, my straight advice is not to go with any altcoins but bitcoin. That reduces a lot of risk right away. Now if you are day trading then I hope you have already worked on how to read indicators and charts.

Lastly if you feel you are not being able to cope up with trading or facing a lot of mental problem due to it, it is better to move on with it. Sadly not everyone can cope with the mental trauma that is often there.
3949  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: I suggest raising the topic of bounty companies!!! on: January 22, 2021, 05:13:07 AM
Your idea isn't bad at all but not every bounty projects will agreed to this because of few different reasons, some haven't even create their tokens yet and some have not raised any penny yet too, it's better to accept the risks involved in bounties and choose projects wisely, quality projects aren't that hard to detect
You have highlighted the points of why there are always projects that have been risky and ended up being a failure. While I have seen some projects that have been good they have mainly been in the first few months of when ICO hype started. The ones which came in later all ended up as scams, money grabs and waste of time.

It's my suggestion to all those hoping to get a project or a bounty that is a success to leave those hopes for now. In case you have sold at the last bitcoin pump well and good, if not then they are just shitcoins.
3950  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Cezo rebranding attempt after not paying out bounty on: January 20, 2021, 06:12:56 AM
If you were participating in the bounty personally it might be worth making a Level 3 flag on the account you red tagged.
That would be appropriate if any of the investors of Cezo would be willing to provide their details of investment and would be willing to follow the procedure of preparing the flag.

Just my thoughts that a bounty participant and the bounty manager do not have any such contractual agreement of payment. The bounty manager is simply a middle-man but the onus of paying the bounty participant (and the manager's fees) lie on the team members shoulders. Unless both the bounty manager and the Team member paying the bounty are the same.

Is any of the Cezo investors watching this thread till now? Please be careful about which account is getting flagged.
3951  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Btc and alts on: January 20, 2021, 06:07:49 AM
Every one of those can occur at no specific request. Happy that you have requested this sort from perception as it shows that you're genuinely intrigued to think about how the market. It resembles Bitcoin is the one making the publicity to fire up the motor to turn over the bullish season and to be powered by next altcoins .
To a trader these thoughts come to their mind normally seeing the altcoins go up with bitcoin rise and then bleeding out as bitcoin stagnates over time at a price range. But I feel this is not needed to be thought. In case the altcoin that you bought is going up just sell it make the profit.

There is no direct connection between the two but we can say that a general bullish news for crypto in general or just bitcoin can pump the altcoins too. Is the reverse true? I did see bitcoin pump a bit when litecoin declared its halving, so I cant say no but I lack more evidence to observe. Of course Litecoin is a very old coin and considered as "Silver" to bitcoin.
3952  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Practices for sending to exchange on: January 20, 2021, 05:59:52 AM
Hi,
Are there any best practices for sending btc to an exchange? For example if I wanted to send a large (to me) amount should I send in multiple transactions or all at once? I'm technically competent but paranoid about sending especially from legacy addresses.
Your account has been inactive for sometime. Roll Eyes But I see you have registered 10years ago.

What are you so paranoid about? This is one thing that I hate very much in the traders of this sector. Have some logic behind your fears. If you feel someone is tracking you all the time, seriously you need to stop trading crypto, because it is becoming a source of mental distress and that can ruin your life.

Honestly just send it all at once or in smaller transactions - either way if someone is watching they will found out sooner or late. So what is the point anyway? Just point your middle finger at your "imaginary trackers" and keep doing what you do, you are stifling the fun out of it. Cheesy
3953  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DID I GOT SCAMMED? on: January 20, 2021, 05:53:22 AM
Thanks for the replies guys.
I would still be interested in investing in crypto mining. Is there any actual legit mining pools you can invest or the only way is to actually buy the hardware and just mine in it yourself?

Here are the few points that I remind myself when talking about mining:

1. The only way to profit from mining using hardware is gone since 2013 with the difficult rising and hashpower competition with other miners in case you are hoping to be a solo miner with a couple of rigs. What you really need in order to get a decent ROI from the miner costs, electricity costs, labor costs and maintenance cost is a huge farm of mining rigs containing several hundreds of ASICs. I might be a little off on my estimate but thats that.

2. There are mining pools but these are for miners with smaller capacity of devices to join and mine together and get a share of the block subsidy in the proportion of their hashpower.

3. Investing in mining pools is something that I am hearing new here. I would not recommend the same because in case you get scammed by the rest of the "group posing as miners" - you have no legal grounds to sue them. Obviously they will not be some registered company out there but even if they do, I would still be skeptical

If you ask me, the best way to profit is to buy bitcoin at low prices and sell at high prices. Mining is no longer profitable for small-cap users.
3954  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] TRX Express - Ponzi scheme on: January 20, 2021, 05:47:33 AM
Sadly enough some newbies get trapped in the get 2 TRX thing.

This is because many users out there who have not learnt what bitcoin is yet, see the news media posting a topic everyday about new all-time-high reached by it. They do crave for the day when they can buy some bitcoins but sadly they cant. Now some random username on telegram PMs them about a bot that can do the same thing just that it is a different coin, so this innocent fellow catches the greedy line and goes in to spend a lot of money on buying TRX and sending that over.

Flag supported from my end too.
3955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with nonsignificant altcoins on: January 20, 2021, 05:44:04 AM
Hmmm, seems like people are divided on holding vs trading
It does not make sense to hold on to altcoins that have become  -98% of their ICO price or whichever price you want to consider as a reference. In the last bear markets we have seen the reality of what altcoins are, they have become pump and dump schemes for the hordes of shitcoin that have come in the market or just remained stagnant at low prices for a long time.

The bitcoin bull trend pushed them up but at this point I think just selling them will be the better exit strategy. While Bitcoin is the thing that one needs to hold, altcoins should be spent as early as possible. I am sure all veteran traders will think similarly too because they have been prey of the vaporware that altcoins create and want a relief from them.
3956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will ALT have ATH again? on: January 19, 2021, 06:36:26 AM
Without any doubt this new ATH for altcoins are possible knowing that we are just starting the alt season and I have a very high confidence that it will make a new history in the crypto market.
Come on now. You might be seeing this uptrend as a new entrant, which I can't possibly know but I am guessing since it is common in them. But honestly I have seen what happens after that, they buy some shitcoins and never see any profit. Moreover this high price is the point of buying wrongly which is called fear of missing out.

Therefore you might be able to make a profit off the price rise but long term value of such coins is low when compared to bitcoin. None of them will be close to what bitcoin has become and even if they do there are so many altcoins there. How would you even guess which one will be big? Better to stick to the well know bitcoin.
3957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with nonsignificant altcoins on: January 19, 2021, 05:56:46 AM
I see the point in trading against the dollar, altcoins have much less good correlation with BTC, you will simply lose on the course.
If I were you, I would not complicate my life, and traded only to the USDT and the like.
Well said. Why focus on things that are not going to be anything in future but a rolling ball of despair and hopelessness?

Truly altcoins and tokens have been snowballing many investors who are manipulated in buying them and wasting their money hoping to see it as the next big thing in crypto.

While I admire the risk taking attitude, this becomes a stubborn thing to do. If someone does not want to focus only on bitcoin they can try other sectors of investment in the fiat market too. But not altcoins just because they are "other forms of crypto".
3958  Economy / Securities / Re: Transaction between community members on: January 19, 2021, 05:40:00 AM
Okay thanks for your contributions, I know already because lot of people on the group are not really trusted. However, I was saying of initiating transaction with hunter over here on the forum that was the only fear in me if I wouldn't be tag of anything else.
If that was the case you would be having a large number of false positives of this type and nobody would be innocent that way Cheesy. Hence you don't have to worry about that. Still what you could do is use different addresses for each receiving transaction and not re use an old address. This does not save you from chain analysis experts though.

But even then if you have not done anything that is dishonest you should not have to worry. We have so many users sending and receiving coins everywhere and are they being accused? No. Hence you also don't need to think on this.
3959  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think that planned pump and dump is ethically acceptable? on: January 18, 2021, 09:54:19 AM
Correct, which is why no one should try to trade those coins, it has been a known fact for a very long time that you cannot use technical analysis in small markets effectively and most honest books that you can read about trading will specify that pump and dumps are precisely the reason, in markets in which a single movement of a whale can move the market up or down technical analysis becomes meaningless and even if whales are powerful in the market of bitcoin they can be counted by other whales or retail investors.
You can still trade in the top 10 altcoins. At least their market cap is comparable among each other and higher than the shitcoins that go 400% gains overnight. But these are not the coins to hold on to for long term. They are supposed to go up and go down without warning, even in the middle of the night. Making all of them a much more risky asset to hold than what bitcoin has become.

Bitcoin may drop but we have confidence that it will go up again. We can say this for certain but can we do that for altcoins? No. We will be doubting that.

This is why the fear level in altcoin market is also high. It takes just a small cap whale to dump and make the rest of the retail investors go crazy with fear. Hence my suggestion to keep altcoins to a minimum.
3960  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: altocoin inovations on: January 18, 2021, 09:47:48 AM
Also thinking about innovations solving problems that came up with the development and broader adoption of bitcoins original concept, things that come to mind with this is hard-forks, 51 attack, mining energy consumption and anonymity
 like satoshis original white paper concept...
Now all these ideas to make all the problems disappear seem very rosy to anyone who is new to this currency and finding out about its pros and cons. But trust me, the same things have been spoken several times before and attempted or faked to be changed but nothing happened in reality, except some investors having lost their money.

What is true is that bitcoin has problems but it's advantages outweigh the problems. No single currency is one and only but bitcoin is close to that.

Even then an altcoin is never going to take position close to bitcoin so much so that it becomes a good store of value.
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