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you really believe that in a market where the price rises due to demand being larger than supply, anyone is losing money or trying to make money because of others losing money, than you are mistaken by an order of magnitude that i cannot express without getting offensive. if 10 people hold 10 apples and there are another 10 people want to have some of those apples- what will happen? Price rises. Who the fuck lost money? you say that apple scheme is a ponzi, being a hero in a BITCOIN forum. wow. Ignored Ignored you were accusing bitcoin buyers to try to make money by others losing in a ponzi. THAT is insulting and it is wrong. |
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but why why W H Y would one stay in such a ponzi pit of shit and post there for two years thousands of posts ? If others are greedy idiots they at least are acting human (= idiots/greedy) but what are you doing here ? |
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mr hero- if you really believe that in a market where the price rises due to demand being larger than supply, anyone is losing money or trying to make money because of others losing money, than you are mistaken by an order of magnitude that i cannot express without getting offensive. if 10 people hold 10 apples and there are another 10 people want to have some of those apples- what will happen? Price rises. Who the fuck lost money? you say that apple scheme is a ponzi, being a hero in a BITCOIN forum. wow. |
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Why are there people so damn desperate to keep the price below 400? What are they afraid of? What do they want?
Most people purchase Bitcoins in the speculative hope they can later profit by selling them at a higher price to other market participants. As it's mathematically impossible for this to continue ad infinitum it's foolish to think you can continue to make money at the expense of other market participants (of which you yourselves are among) beyond the peak of adoption. Once adoption rates have peaked, which they more than likely did last year, there's little left but a massive downside caused by an imbalance of those wishing to cash out vs new money coming in from those wishing to speculate on further price rises. As the imbalance becomes more apparent new adopters are likely to become fewer and fewer thus escalating the downside. As more people start to realize risk/reward is a bad bet and that the coins are gradually becoming worth less vs USD, a cash grab situation is likely to arise in which people will become aware coins are actually only backed by buy orders amounting to about 0.01% of the arbitrary market capitalization. This situation could be immensely profitable for those buying into the next round of folly. All those who have become rich from Bitcoin have simply done so at the expense of later market participants, many of whom are likely to realize large losses on the flip side at some point. Hence why it's reasonably comparable to a giant ponzi scheme. yet another hero on "ignore" please leave this ponzi forum, there is no need for you to spill your sermon onto delusioned ponzi followers anymore. leave us alone in our self established ponzi hell, don't waste your brilliant mind, your good heart and our precious time on retarded fools. Have a nice time in non-ponzi wonderland. |
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...und im gleichen Kontext: http://www.rosalux.de/event/51712Sollten vielleicht ein paar Berliner hingehn und ein wenig relativieren und vermitteln, schließlich ist der BTC nun mal nicht kommunistisch genug und hat technisch leider keine klassenlose Gesellschaftsutopie mit eingebaut.  ist doch bloß software, kann man alles implementieren... |
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the next 24 bitcoin are gentlemen
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Can someone explain this "this is gentleman" thing? I know it's a typo by some guy on reddit, but what was it that he wanted so say?
Presumably, 'this is it gentlemen'. he was listening to this tune i bet:  TO THE TOP !  |
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http://www.handelszeitung.ch/invest/so-funktioniert-die-digitale-waehrung-bitcoin-695737Menschen vertrauen Technik aus zwei Gründen. Weil sie aus Gewohnheit wissen, dass etwas funktioniert. Oder weil sie verstehen, was passiert. Bei Bitcoin ist derzeit meistens beides nicht der Fall. Bitcoin? Dezentral? Konsensbasiert?
Dabei löst die Bitcoin-Technologie ein altes Problem: Bisher gelang es niemandem, digitales Geld kopiersicher zu machen und gleichzeitig die wichtigste Eigenschaft von Bargeld zu erhalten: Bargeld als Tauschmittel nur zwischen zwei Parteien. Bei Bargeld kann Martha Münzen und Noten an Lukas übergeben, ohne dass es eine Vermittlerinstanz bräuchte. solche artikel bringen btc nach vorne. kein wort über drogen, betrug, nerds...
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wow, über 1000 btc auf bitstamp gekauft...
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If the data is accurate, 6847 Bitcoin was bought yesterday
(There was a mistake in my previous update)
looks like mr silbert heard your signal, oda |
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Maybe we should have a "Remember when bitcoin was $1,000?" nostalgia party
Now that is a good idea!  600watt? As soon as planing starts bitcoin will rise above 1000$ again that's the spirit !  |
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conspiracy theorists are gonna love this. bitcoin + jews. oh noes -the japanese invented bitcoin to ruin the chinese economy. -the cia invented bitcoin to ruin all liberals and tech nerds. -israel invented it to ruin ... (no clue) -the chinese invented bitcoin to kill the usd. -big banks and governments invented bitcoin to trick us out of cash... |
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Wenn man sich die Charts auf blockchain.info anschaut geht es fundamental steil aufwärts da gebe ich curiosity81 zu gar recht.
Nun eigentlich müsste auch der Preis Steigen aber stattdessen driften wir Stück für Stück weiter nach unten ab.
Wenn man sich ein paar Gedanken darüber macht und eins + eins zusammen Zählt kommt man schnell dahinter warum das so ist und das der BTC eigentlich völlig überbewertet ist.
Die Hauptgründe dafür sind zum einen die “Preistreibende“ Börse MtGox gibt es nicht mehr. Zum anderen die florierende Bitcoin-Akzeptanz bzw. Pseudoakzeptanz die massiv auf den Preis drückt. Denn wenn man zum Beispiel bei Dell einen neuen PC kauft diesen mit Bitcoin bezahlt werden diese Bitcoin direkt in USD gewechselt und das ist nicht nur die Ausnahme sondern die Regel da jede Firma Betriebskosten hat die gedeckt werden müssen.
Mit dem Minern (Miningfahrmen) werden so summa summarum derzeit Wöchentlich ca. 10000 +/- 1000 BTC (ca. 3,465.000 USD) auf den Markt gebracht.
WOW, die Käufer wollen erst mal gefunden werden die in der Lage sind Wöchentlich ca. 10000 BTC zum aktuellen Marktpreis abzunehmen und diese auch treu in der Wallet zu halten.
Für mich beantwortet sich eigentlich die Frage warum es fundamental steil aufwärts geht aber Preislich immer weiter Bergab. Und das wird sich so schnell auch nicht ändern solange man sein Essen, Strom und alles was man noch so zum leben brauch in Fiat bezahlt.
Ich bleibe bei meiner aktuelle Prognose: not to the moon but it goes in the basement!!!
es werden pro woche ca. 25 000 coins hergestellt. zum gegenwärtigen kurs sind das ca. 8 mio $. anfang des jahres waren es allerdings noch mehr als 16 mio pro woche. die summe dessen, was aufgebracht werden muss um alle frischen btc zu kaufen wurde im laufe des jahres immer weniger. weshalb diese geringer werdenden kosten nun ein argument für zukünftig weiter fallende kurse sein sollen erschliesst sich mir nicht. |
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you are not a loser, your timing was just terrible. the punishment for bad timing is you have to sit it out. i bought my first coins on top of the 2011 bubble. now, 40 months later, even those coins bought at $ 30,- look cheap.
don't start to daytrade! wait until 2017.
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dat feel when someone quotes the guy you've ignored who is trolling you  i felt forced to ignore everyone who is is even once qouting a troll. Couldn't bear it anymore. |
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A lot, half of my savings. I feel like a total loser because I got fooled by bitcoin proponents who were saying $1000 is cheap, it would go to $100 000.
so far, all the prevoius ath turned out to be cheap in the long run. why would the last ath be the first one where this will not be the case? because of the hundreds of millions of vc capital invested ? because of pay pal, dell, expedia,... ,... and all the other mainstream actors adopting it ? (and all the other great developments that took place in/towards the btc economy, that happened since the april 2013 ath) bought my first coins right on top of 2011 bubble. i had to wait almost two years to break even. but now even those coins have 10folded. i suggest patience. |
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thank you for your support. we did not expect that so many of you would leave us some percentage or even the entire amount to cover costs. i´ll have the stats ready in a few days. we plan to start the refunding by 15th of november. originally it was planned to get this done by the end of october, please excuse the delay. the delay is due problems with different versions of java when accessing the multisig implementation. the funds are still here: https://blockchain.info/de/address/3NaGPeYAZztGnyUjDrkA4VmvMngRF12cF3 |
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