Thank you, elambert. Very helpful. :-) |
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is that guy serious, I think he just pretend to be stupid.
Are non believers in santa a religious cult of nonbelief?
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The point of this thread was proof through mathematics and logic that god exists.
You have not achieved this. If nothing is nothing, everything is everything, everything exists.
This is a completely valid and true statement.
It's a meaningless statement, unless you can define those terms and provide context, which you have failed to do in 6 pages and counting. Add to the fact that we live in an infinite universe, there are infinite dimensions and you are constantly changing dimensions as you read this. It is statistically 100% improbable that god does not exist, that an elephant does not exist in your room and that we aren't having this exact same conversation somewhere else at this very moment. It is up to you to tune yourself to that reality and make it exist in your perception.
"Statistically 100% improbable" lol |
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Thanks to the CGB folks. I really hope this currency does well. I'd like to know more about the proof of stake thing. Can anyone give me (or point me to) a quick synopsis?
Here you go my friend: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_StakeThanks, reading now.... Will reply here, with questions almost certainly. |
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The idea behind atheism is the non existence of god. You're right about that.
This logic is inherently flawed as itself is a negative. The syntax of that (English?) sentence is flawed. However, the flaws go beyond cleaning up your English. The belief that there is no god is just a belief. It's not a "negative". Yes, there is a syntactic negation in the sentential statement of that belief. But even old Aristotle seems to have a better idea than you about how opposition relations (which *do* exist!) feed into natural language statements with negation (cf _The Categories_). Its self. My bad. I don't see how that helps it? So the sentence is now: "This logic is inherently flawed as its self is a negative." ? This logic is inherently flawed as its self [non existence] is a negative. How does that not make sense? It does not make sense because a negation does not entail a contradiction. Your statement reads as if all "negatives" are flawed. I believe there are no elephants in my bedroom. This is a "negative" (your term), yet I find no contradiction in the statement and I observe no elephants in my bedroom. Non existence does not exist. To say non existence exists is a fallacy. It is like a riddle.
Uh, it's hard to figure out what you mean by that? ^^^. Non-existance is a quality. It's the quality of not existing. Obviously (by definition!) you won't find that quality inhering any extant objects, but geez, is it really throwing you for this hard of a loop? "Nothing is nothing, unless it is something" If non existence, or nothing, is a quality, then it is something, so it must exist as a conceptualization. How can nothing be something if it is nothing? You are mixing logical levels. See the use/mention distinction. There is the concept of a dog. I label it with a term "dog". This does not mean that the properties of the dog inhere in the term "dog". The concept of nothing certainly exists and we can label it. This does not equivalent to locating an instance of nothingness in the real world. I feel like your logic would lead you do deny the existence of the color blue because the word "blue" has no color. I've said this many times, you may conceptualize non existence. You cannot experience non existence as if non existence existed there would be no way to experience it. How can non existence truly exist? It's a blatant fallacy. You are playing a puerile word game. Word riddles are cute but don't equate to sound reasoning. Surely you admit the non-existance of any number of nonsense scenarios I can put forward. Do you really believe that everything you imagine is 'real'?
Wait a minute. Conceptualizing nothingness is not the same thing as conceptualizing that I am nothing. Who threw me into the nothingness? Again, you confuse logical levels. Here we have a person conceptualizing and we have the concept they envision. Conflating the two things leads to confusion. If this conflation feels mystical or gives you a religious feeling, that's fine. But it's not the same as a logical assertion. You shouldn't expect others to follow you.
If you are conceptualizing that you are nothing, you are clearly something, which is in the act of conceptualizing nothing. It doesn't make you nothing. Stop it! I am not conceptualizing that I am nothing. Its another one of your misdirections.
Who said it does? I beleive that the old dinosaur energy was converted into non-dinosaur energy in the form of organic material on the Earth. If you can allow me to believe in the non-dinosaurness of the present reality, why can't you entertain that someone believes that there is no God in the present reality?
Think about this, what are thoughts? Do you think perhaps they may be other dimensions us multidimensional beings are able to connect to? Just like when you dream, we connect to other realities, other dimensions. Though humans have not evolved to fully connect to these other dimensions, yet. Everything exists right where you are, there are infinite dimensions/frequencies to tune your mind to, we just need to learn how to do it. So you used to be an atheist until you got yourself all confused with some pseudo-metaphysical sophistry? I think you need a philosophy 101 course, dude.
No. I used to be an atheist until I experienced a great depression, looked within for answers, came out of that depression and experienced egodeath confirming the existence of god. Egodeath is when your soul, consciousness, completely separates from the physical plane of the universe. The fourth dimension is composed of specific and filtered light spectrums to create your reality of space and time, in other words, you see colors which create the illusion of division. As we have learned, when you combine all these frequencies, colors, together, you get white light. When you are separated from your sense of self, or reality, your consciousness inputs all frequencies of the universe. This results in your vision turning to completely white energy of the highest form, consciousness, love, god. Ego death brings the feeling of infinite love, it is a greater feeling than 1000 times the happiest point of your life, at a minimum. It is what you experience upon death. This kid's had multiple near death experiences and he describes the same infinite peace and white light of united consciousness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4LSEXsvRAI“While I was still unconscious, I was in this white room; no walls, it just went on and on. There was no sound, but that same peaceful feeling I had when I was four. I was wearing a really nice suit, and so was my favorite rapper, Kid Cudi. I then looked at myself in the mirror—I was proud of myself, of my entire life, everything I have done. It was the best feeling. I didn’t want to leave that place. I wish I never woke up.” "Right then, my favorite song of his came on, Mr. Rager. The part where it said, 'when will the fantasy end, when will the heaven begin?' And he said, 'Go now.'" Another testimony: Following a simple medical procedure for pancreatitis in 2009, Crystal McVea of Oklahoma went into full respiratory arrest on the operating table. When that happened, she says she experienced a trip to heaven that renewed her faith in God, whom she met in person. She described him as “an immense brightness,” one that she could “feel, taste, touch, hear, and smell,” and recalled having 500 senses while in heaven, as opposed to the traditional human five. Great, if your religion is helping you, I'm not against that. I think your only mistake is suggesting that these mystical feeling you get from these poems you're writing equates with a logical necessity. Thoughts are thoughts, people think them. That some people think that there is no God is simply a belief that some people have. Perhaps just as unjustifiably as your belief that thinking about the concept of nothing leads to contradictions (it doesn't!). Likewise, if your religion, atheism, is helping you, go for it. But I don't see very much peace to gain, from experience, with the fallacious belief system that we grow up and die into nothing. I've contemplated this long and hard as a young kid and the reason it scared me so much is because I couldn't comprehend non existence. Little did I know, it's because non existence does not exist. What poems are you speaking of? I quite literally left my body and the physical realm of reality to see a completely infinite white light of love. If that doesn't prove something, then idk man, you'll just have to wait till you die to see for yourself. Don't worry about me and my religion (skepticism). I'm surprised you think your mystical reports would prove something to me. I only accept 'proof' in a very small set of circumstances (basically closed world systems). Your mystical poems are cute, but they aren't logic. If you admit that, I'll leave you alone. |
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Did y'all get my vote for CGB?
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...it's not stealing if you willingly give up something.
For the umpteenth time, I do not willingly pay tax. I pay tax because I don't want to: a) Go to prison; b) Leave my friends and family; c) Live off the work of others. You can call those 'choices' if you want - same way as if you were mugged at knifepoint in the street, you might 'choose' to give up your wallet to avoid being stabbed. Doesn't make it voluntary, does it? I think this post is pretty right. There are situations which, strictly speaking, are voluntary. Yet practically, they are not. A 'choice' between jail/death and a wallet isn't much of a choice IMHO' that's coercion. |
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Hey there, I'm quite curious about the volume of BTC lent using this forum. Obviously I can count the posts, but I'd like to know how many loans go through and what percentage are successfully paid back. Is that info available anywhere?
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Don't you need to fill in a few more details in order to get help? Isn't "mining on the web" very vague? I think we need more info.
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Thanks to the CGB folks. I really hope this currency does well. I'd like to know more about the proof of stake thing. Can anyone give me (or point me to) a quick synopsis?
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At this point, haven't we already heard from Beijing that they don't approve? And yet BTC price seems reasonably stable. Is this thread just too old? (Yet the discussion continues ...)
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Yeah, the alt-coins don't hurt us. People are learning the software. But do be careful where you put your money.
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The reason that I think that income tax is okay is that my government uses it to do useful things for everyone. One example is funding the public transportation system which we all benefit from (both riders and non-riders benefit; non-riders benefit from reduced traffic on the roads). There are many other examples of useful things which can be done with taxes.
We can argue anything is okay if it has benefits; perhaps the holocaust benefited someone who needed a Jew dead. Naturally, we view the holocaust as a bad thing, because we apply the concepts of ethics. I personally believe ethics should come standard to any society, otherwise it only collapses in the end; without a clear vision of what's acceptable behavior and what isn't, we get stuck with dichotomies such as, "It's okay for these people to steal and kidnap, but not okay for those people", and law so convoluted that not even lawyers understand it completely, so overdone that the average Joe commits at least one crime daily. Naturally, anyone who wants to steal and kidnap legally flocks to the first group, and anyone who believes in a virtuous society gets stuck at the wrong end of the gun; it punishes the good and rewards the bad, and I'm certain you would agree that this is not the kind of behavior we should respond positively to, especially not when we have our own laws against theft that do not apply to this special group. You are arguing that theft is moral if it leads to positive outcomes; this is an impossible position to hold without the belief that not everyone deserves equal rights, with yourself being one of those people who requires less rights than others, which is the most troubling aspect of such a belief; surely you seek the same rights as everyone else, don't we all? If some people can steal, why can't we all? Rather, I would prefer it if we all had this right to protect ourselves from thieves, as opposed to the right of robbing everyone, as the former seems sustainable. Even if the stolen money is used for good deeds, are you not capable of paying for these good deeds voluntarily? Are there unknown forces of this world which prevents people from paying for the transportation that only the group with special rights can conquer? It seems unlikely to me. I think you're argument against my rationale is that while I may think that tax money may be spent on useful things for everyone, another may disagree, and therefore we have to decide who is correct. Do I understand you? |
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Micon pimp im about to get medival on these fucktards got info on these punks I visit them in person
I think you should go ahead and do this.  |
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To be honest, my favorite thing about CGB is kinda dumb: it's that it's the only alt currency I own. I only have BTC and CGB. So that's my favorite thing about it!
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All sent, btw! Faucet still running!
You've got a CGB faucet? What's the url? I'd like to visit to pick up some CGB. |
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What's the status with Cryptogenic Bullion. I have like 0.5CGB and I wanted to know what's new. Is there a thread for CGB that's not locked? Please point me in the right direction.
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