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3961  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Blueprint gaming is a scam - With proof on: January 08, 2020, 06:54:20 AM
I have bought over 3500 bonuses on Kong Megaways. 3500!!! And not one bonus paid more than 1000x.

This is unremarkable.

How often do you expect a 1000x outcome?

Even if it was programmed to pay out 1000x 1 out of every 1,000 times, and every other time the result was a win of 0, it would still be well within normal variance to go 3500 in a row without a 1000x.

It seems like you made 3500 bets on a high variance game and didn't get lucky.  

Okay I get what you are saying. But machines have set RTP's. This machine has an RTP of 96.03%. And I lose money 9 times out of 10 on a bonus buy. And when I win on the 1 out of 10 bonus buys it never pays more than 1000 euro above my bet. So if I use 750 euro as an average bet size (Even though I always buy more 1500 euro buys) then I have bought 2,625,000 EURO worth of buys on Kong at 3500 buys. 96.03% RTP which means Kong should have paid back 2,520,787.5 EURO in wins. Which it clearly has not. The slot is rigged. Yesterday I lost 3 BTC in one session with all spins resulting in losses way below the initial buy.

There's variance.

If you played the slot infinite times, you can expect to see the true RTP.

You made 3500 bets.  Maybe it has a .00001% chance of paying out 100,000x + your bet.  If that's the case, you'd need a sample size in the millions to prove anything.

That's the problem with online casinos who aren't regulated by anyone that forces transparency.  They could be rigged, and there's just no way to prove it because we can't get a big enough sample size.

So if Bitcasino limits the slot to paying out a maximum of 750x which I believe is the case on a 10 EURO bet, I will never be able to win my money back. Bitcasino wont disclose what limits they set on the slot and neither will blueprint. If it is limited and bitcasino doesn't disclose this to players knowing that they can never win back a 100,000 euro loss or more because the slot is limited then isn't that classified as fraud?

If they're advertising the RTP as 96%, and it's actually lower, then that's fraud.

There could be a 750x max and the RTP could still be 96% though.

And your assumption that you figured out the max win after 3500 bets is not based on a proper sample size.

Bit off topic, but an example of transparency in slots would be the regulators in Vegas and Atlantic City test each game, they're able to simulate 10's of millions of bets and determine if the RTP is below the legal limit or not.  They track everything.  Casino isn't allowed access the software without permission from the regulator, and if they get caught doing so, even if by accident, they pay massive fines.

They also publish monthly revenue reports, that show exactly how much was wagered on slots and table games, and how much the casino profited.  

Here are the results for November 2019: https://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/docs/Financials/MGR2019/201911revenue.pdf

You won't find that kind of transparency at a site like Bitcasino, unfortunately. 
3962  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Blueprint gaming is a scam - With proof on: January 08, 2020, 06:38:14 AM
I have bought over 3500 bonuses on Kong Megaways. 3500!!! And not one bonus paid more than 1000x.

This is unremarkable.

How often do you expect a 1000x outcome?

Even if it was programmed to pay out 1000x 1 out of every 1,000 times, and every other time the result was a win of 0, it would still be well within normal variance to go 3500 in a row without a 1000x.

It seems like you made 3500 bets on a high variance game and didn't get lucky.  

Okay I get what you are saying. But machines have set RTP's. This machine has an RTP of 96.03%. And I lose money 9 times out of 10 on a bonus buy. And when I win on the 1 out of 10 bonus buys it never pays more than 1000 euro above my bet. So if I use 750 euro as an average bet size (Even though I always buy more 1500 euro buys) then I have bought 2,625,000 EURO worth of buys on Kong at 3500 buys. 96.03% RTP which means Kong should have paid back 2,520,787.5 EURO in wins. Which it clearly has not. The slot is rigged. Yesterday I lost 3 BTC in one session with all spins resulting in losses way below the initial buy.

There's variance.

If you played the slot infinite times, you can expect to see the true RTP.

You made 3500 bets.  Maybe it has a .00001% chance of paying out 100,000x + your bet.  If that's the case, you'd need a sample size in the millions to prove anything.

That's the problem with online casinos who aren't regulated by anyone that forces transparency.  They could be rigged, and there's just no way to prove it because we can't get a big enough sample size and don't have access to the software to see for ourselves.
3963  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Blueprint gaming is a scam - With proof on: January 08, 2020, 06:24:28 AM
I have bought over 3500 bonuses on Kong Megaways. 3500!!! And not one bonus paid more than 1000x.

This is unremarkable.

How often do you expect a 1000x outcome?

Even if it was programmed to pay out 1000x 1 out of every 1,000 times, and every other time the result was a win of 0, it would still be well within normal variance to go 3500 in a row without a 1000x.

It seems like you made 3500 bets on a high variance game and didn't get lucky.
3964  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US President Donald Trump has threatened Iran on: January 08, 2020, 04:01:17 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/iran-plane-crash-boeing-ukraine.html

A Boeing 737 carrying 180 people crashed shortly after takeoff from Tehran because of technical problems, according to the Iranian Students News Agency, a state-run media agency.

The conditions of the passengers and crew were not immediately known.

The plane was bound for Ukraine, the news agency reported.  



Perfect, one can blame Iran, US, or whoever else for this that fits the narrative they believe.
3965  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US President Donald Trump has threatened Iran on: January 08, 2020, 01:39:02 AM
Where is Pelosi?  Congress needs to put the leash on Trump instead of just sitting by while he takes us to war.

I don't think Congress will be able to slow this down, the War Powers Resolution is vague enough that it might as well not exist, and they would need a veto proof majority to pass a new one.

Best chance of things slowing down enough to begin some sort of negotiation would probably be someone who can really kiss his ass and make him feel good, like Rand Paul or Lindsay Graham or even Mitch, convincing Trump that his maximum pressure strategy could have a worse result than Bush and Iraq and offering some scenario for him to back down and convince his followers he didn't actually back down and any negative side effects are 100% the democrats fault.

3966  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US President Donald Trump has threatened Iran on: January 07, 2020, 11:44:32 PM
Iran state TV: Tehran fires at Iraqi base housing US troops

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran state TV says Tehran has launched “tens” of surface-to-surface missiles at Iraq’s Ain Assad air base housing U.S. troops over America’s killing of a top Iranian general.

State TV described it early Wednesday as Tehran’s revenge operation over the killing of Revolutionary Guard Gen. Qassem Soleimani.


If any Americans died, it's Trumps turn to hit back harder or back down.
3967  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: January 07, 2020, 09:32:38 PM
3968  Economy / Gambling / Re: FIRST Peer-2-Peer betting website. NO HOUSE & NO DEALER 1$ UNLIMITED GAINS on: January 07, 2020, 07:08:41 PM
I can back up what i m saying by directly challenging him to a game of Rocket Crash where i hold only 2 tickets while you hold 1 ticket and i can prove that i will beat you way better than the ratio of 2:1, proving the point that the higher number of tickets gives a more of an exponential than a proportional edge over competition. This has been tested by ourselves many times over, that s why the ticket prices rise exponentially and not linearly.

It would need to be better than a 3:1 win ratio to prove your point (I spend 1, you spend 1 + 2).

Let's say you bought 10 tickets though and 10 other people each bought 1 ticket.

Let's also just say first ticket costs $1 for simplicity.

You would spend a total of $1,023 on your 10 tickets and the other 10 players would spend $1 each, so the total spent on tickets would be $1,033.

$1,033 total spent
3% fee = $30.99
Prizepool = $1002.01

You would have a very high chance of successfully turning your $1,023 into $1002.01.

3969  Economy / Gambling / Re: FIRST Peer-2-Peer betting website. NO HOUSE & NO DEALER 1$ UNLIMITED GAINS on: January 07, 2020, 09:27:45 AM
1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake.

How is this different than a poker tournament that costs $100 to enter and $97 goes to the prize pool, 3% to the house.

Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly

Huh?  If there are 10 players who each bought the same amount of tickets, would they not each have a 10% chance to win?\

Poker tournament - 9 players and a dealer with a LIMITED pot

Betroom's games - UNLIMITED number of players with an UNLIMITED pot
  

     Everything else, relate to my last reply.


Poker tournament, unlimited players with unlimited prize pool, there is no dealer if it's online, they use software...same as you.

Also Betroom's games are FAST - a game starts every 20 seconds allowing a winner every 20 seconds. A feat that NO other website is capable of providing.
Poker games take forever to complete while our games complete at an average rate of 20 seconds.

Now you suddenly shifted from comparing traditional casinos where people bet against the house to a single game "poker". It is indeed close to online poker tournaments but it s far different from it, from gameplay to rate of games played per minute.

Now you are starting to realise the GENIUS in Betroom. That is a good thing.

All I'm saying is that with a 3% fee, each ticket is worth 97% of the price, so the more tickets you buy, the more you lose.  Buying more tickets for one game will increase your chances of winning, but it won't make you more successful.  It doesn't matter how much you spend, 3% of it will go to you and the rest will go to the players.

You're the owner of the site right? 

"Buying more tickets for one game will increase your chances of winning, but it won't make you more successful."

WHAT is that? Increasing the chances of success WILL and DOES make you more successful in all walks of life, the MORE you put in, the MORE you get out of it. There are some concepts in life that you seem to NOT understand. I am unsure if it s your desire to overlook them or pure lack of knowledge, but before making statements, please go on and study the matter in question. Of course it matters how much you spend, if you spend more you CAN become more successful.

No.

Risking $1 to win $100 1% of the time and risking $100 to make $1 99% of the time will be equally 'successful' bets.

The only thing that changes is variance. 

Buying more tickets allows you to win more often, but your profit will be less than if you bought just one ticket.  This is basic stuff here.
3970  Economy / Gambling / Re: FIRST Peer-2-Peer betting website. NO HOUSE & NO DEALER 1$ UNLIMITED GAINS on: January 07, 2020, 09:11:27 AM
1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake.

How is this different than a poker tournament that costs $100 to enter and $97 goes to the prize pool, 3% to the house.

Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly

Huh?  If there are 10 players who each bought the same amount of tickets, would they not each have a 10% chance to win?\

Poker tournament - 9 players and a dealer with a LIMITED pot

Betroom's games - UNLIMITED number of players with an UNLIMITED pot
  

     Everything else, relate to my last reply.


Poker tournament, unlimited players with unlimited prize pool, there is no dealer if it's online, they use software...same as you.

Also Betroom's games are FAST - a game starts every 20 seconds allowing a winner every 20 seconds. A feat that NO other website is capable of providing.
Poker games take forever to complete while our games complete at an average rate of 20 seconds.

Now you suddenly shifted from comparing traditional casinos where people bet against the house to a single game "poker". It is indeed close to online poker tournaments but it s far different from it, from gameplay to rate of games played per minute.

Now you are starting to realise the GENIUS in Betroom. That is a good thing.

All I'm saying is that with a 3% fee, each ticket is worth 97% of the price, so the more tickets you buy, the more you lose.  Buying more tickets for one game will increase your chances of winning, but it won't make you more successful.  It doesn't matter how much you spend, 3% of it will go to you and the rest will go to the players.

You're the owner of the site right? 
3971  Economy / Gambling / Re: FIRST Peer-2-Peer betting website. NO HOUSE & NO DEALER 1$ UNLIMITED GAINS on: January 07, 2020, 09:00:33 AM
1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake.

How is this different than a poker tournament that costs $100 to enter and $97 goes to the prize pool, 3% to the house.

Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly

Huh?  If there are 10 players who each bought the same amount of tickets, would they not each have a 10% chance to win?\

Poker tournament - 9 players and a dealer with a LIMITED pot

Betroom's games - UNLIMITED number of players with an UNLIMITED pot
  

     Everything else, relate to my last reply.


Poker tournament, unlimited players with unlimited prize pool, there is no dealer if it's online, they use software...same as you.

Betroom allows players to increase their odds, as i said, by buying more tickets.

You also said:
Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games

And there are poker tournaments that allow players to buy in unlimited times.
3972  Economy / Gambling / Re: FIRST Peer-2-Peer betting website. NO HOUSE & NO DEALER 1$ UNLIMITED GAINS on: January 07, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake.

How is this different than a poker tournament that costs $100 to enter and $97 goes to the prize pool, 3% to the house.

Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly

Huh?  If there are 10 players who each bought the same amount of tickets, would they not each have a 10% chance to win?\

Poker tournament - 9 players and a dealer with a LIMITED pot

Betroom's games - UNLIMITED number of players with an UNLIMITED pot
  

     Everything else, relate to my last reply.


Poker tournament, unlimited players with unlimited prize pool, there is no dealer if it's online, they use software...same as you.
3973  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Blueprint gaming is a scam - With proof on: January 07, 2020, 08:51:34 AM
GameProtect is a scammer and is #1 on the least trusted users of all time list on this forum (check his reputation here), don't waste your time and get your hopes up with his 'service', he'll waste a ton of your time and then try to get you to send him money.  

You can check by yourself if you are within the 4% house edge:

With every 10 Euro you statistically lose 40 Cents.

If you made 100,000 bets = 1 million Euro then you should have lost 40,000 Euro.

To lose 400,000 Euro you must have made 1 million bets!

If you made 1 million 10 Euro bets they did not scam you.

He was making $750 - $1500 bonus buys.

On a high variance game, losing $400k could happen real quick.


So I don't mind losing. I understand how gambling works. But in the past 3 days I have bought over 150 bonuses on kong. Out of those 150 buys maybe 3 of them paid more than the initial buy amount and not one paid more than 1000 euro in profit. I have now lost over 9 BTC in just 48 hours on Kong alone.

Here are my deposits to bitcasino: https://imgur.com/a/F0J4YYl

This morning I bought another 20+ bonuses which all resulted in losses of 50% or more of the total buy. Maybe bitcasino is working with the provider to milk me for as much as they can and they are limiting my wins. I don't know. This just isn't right.

Perhaps it's an extremely high variance game?

If each bonus buy has a 2% chance of paying back more than the original bet and a .1% chance of paying out 750x or more, streaks like the one your on would be pretty common even if the house edge was 0%.



So 150 buys and no wins seems fair? Over 200000 euro worth of buys and you can't win your initial buy back? I will be depositing 5 BTC and buying all 1500 euro buys and live streaming the games. Hopefully someone else will agree that something is wrong here.
I recommend you stop playing if you think it's a scam.  You already have 400+ recordings, what difference would one more do?

Post a link to the recording if you do, I'll def check it out.
3974  Economy / Gambling / Re: FIRST Peer-2-Peer betting website. NO HOUSE & NO DEALER 1$ UNLIMITED GAINS on: January 07, 2020, 08:39:49 AM
1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake.

How is this different than a poker tournament that costs $100 to enter and $97 goes to the prize pool, 3% to the house.
people buy tickets to participate in a game; buying more tickets offers more chances of winning the pot
True, but the more you buy, the lower your return on investment will be.

The value will remain the same though, each ticket sold is worth 97% of whatever they paid for it.

Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly

Huh?  If there are 10 players who each bought the same amount of tickets, would they not each have a 10% chance to win?\
3975  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: January 07, 2020, 08:29:33 AM
3976  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Blueprint gaming is a scam - With proof on: January 07, 2020, 07:07:15 AM
GameProtect is a scammer and is #1 on the least trusted users of all time list on this forum (check his reputation here), don't waste your time and get your hopes up with his 'service', he'll waste a ton of your time and then try to get you to send him money.  

You can check by yourself if you are within the 4% house edge:

With every 10 Euro you statistically lose 40 Cents.

If you made 100,000 bets = 1 million Euro then you should have lost 40,000 Euro.

To lose 400,000 Euro you must have made 1 million bets!

If you made 1 million 10 Euro bets they did not scam you.

He was making $750 - $1500 bonus buys.

On a high variance game, losing $400k could happen real quick.


So I don't mind losing. I understand how gambling works. But in the past 3 days I have bought over 150 bonuses on kong. Out of those 150 buys maybe 3 of them paid more than the initial buy amount and not one paid more than 1000 euro in profit. I have now lost over 9 BTC in just 48 hours on Kong alone.

Here are my deposits to bitcasino: https://imgur.com/a/F0J4YYl

This morning I bought another 20+ bonuses which all resulted in losses of 50% or more of the total buy. Maybe bitcasino is working with the provider to milk me for as much as they can and they are limiting my wins. I don't know. This just isn't right.

Perhaps it's an extremely high variance game?

If each bonus buy has a 2% chance of paying back more than the original bet and a .1% chance of paying out 750x or more, streaks like the one your on would be pretty common even if the house edge was 0%.







3977  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: January 07, 2020, 06:23:10 AM


3978  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: January 07, 2020, 05:15:35 AM
3979  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: January 07, 2020, 03:58:35 AM
3980  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump Impeachment Hearings [serious discussion] on: January 07, 2020, 03:06:58 AM
Today Bolton said he would testify in a Senate trial if subpoenaed without going to court first.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/us/politics/bolton-testify-impeachment-trial.html

Lots of interesting questions now.

Keep in mind that other than Trump, and possibly Mulvaney, nobody knows more about the situation than Bolton and he can't be flagged as a 'never Trumper' or Democrat.  He's as conservative as it gets.  He also called the whole thing a 'drug deal' while it was going down and claims to have relative information that has not been made public.

- Does the Iran situation have anything to do with his announcement?
- Are there 4 Republicans willing to vote to subpoena him? ( They need 51 total, Romney seems to be a yes, Murkowski and Collins are wishywashy, but are in a tough spot politically, there are a couple other maybes)
- Would Mitch be willing to agree to allow a vote on whether or not to allow any witnesses before the trial begins?
- Would Mitch be able to find a way to not allow a vote after the trial starts?
- How long does Nancy sit on the articles if Mitch doesn't budge?


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