Societies do not exist without God. Why? Because people would not exist without God.

People are people. Take a look at past societies. The idea of God suggests moral and ethical rules. A society is strong when it keeps the moral and ethical rules that God provides. Once the society deviates from the rules that God provides, it fails and falls.

People are people. Some of the people who follow the laws of God the best, are those who don't believe in God. Some of the worst people - ones who break the laws of God the most - are those who confess to believing in Him. BUT THIS ISN'T THE NORM. Mostly it is the believers in God who follow His rules. The society stands strong when most of the people believe in God.

This is one of the scientific proofs that God exists. Here's how.

Up until recently, science has mostly ignored the idea of the soul. Sure, science is into psychology, but the idea of a soul as an objective "something" has always had its problems in the scientific community. Part of the reason for this is that nobody has any kind of a handle on how to scientifically investigate a soul.

Most of the religious community, and of almost every religion, accepts that there is a soul. It is accepted second nature. Even some non-religious philosophies consider the soul to exist. Here is the point. Since science doesn't have a handle on the soul, DOESN'T mean that the soul doesn't exist.

For example. Electricity is something that we have theory for nowadays. But science knew that electricity existed long before there was theory for it. Science expected theory for it. Science looked for theory for it. But we used electricity for a long time before ANYBODY understood what it was.

What does this have to do with proving God? The souls of people are the things that affect the minds of people in such a way that says - to some people - that God exists. So far, the science for the soul is very weak. The science that exists for the soul allows that there is God, and at the same time allows that there is not God, depending on whose soul it is that is acting - causing the believing. This is because there isn't enough science to say one way or the other about the soul, and it is the soul that has to do with the God connection.

Until such a time that there is clear scientific examination of the soul, we can only conclude that, for the believers in God, God REALLY does exist. Why? Because it might be that God DOES exist, and scientifically examining the soul just might prove it.

Now, if God really does exist, like you an I do, He just might come and prove to the non-believers that He is real. But until that time comes, He DOES exist at the same time that He DOES NOT exist, depending on who is considering the question.



EDIT: Something like this is difficult to talk about clearly. I wish that I had more time to get into it.

Yeah, Decky. Take Vod on his honor, and send him the bitcoins. He'll send 'em back if he loses.   

No, no, no. Don't write it "aquarians." After all, you don't see Christians writing it "christians." They give their religion dignity by capitalizing the first letter. Call the people of your religion "Aquarians," not "aquarians."

God is a spirit. God is spiritually seen. As a spirit, there is no physical look to God. Only the people who acknowledge him are able to see him spiritually. No way to describe the look.

The point wasn't that there was some other life. The point was that someone might claim that there was other life because they found man-introduced life - be it by accident or on purpose - without clearly being able to identify that it was man-introduced.

So far the only evidence we have for life not on earth is, that there are all kinds of chemicals out there that are the same kinds as here. But that's to be expected, if stars work in similar ways. None of it says life.

If you can find these headless people, I don't see what would be so hard about asking them anything. I wouldn't expect much of an answer, though. 

Jim Humble's MMS probably kills it. 

Totally real. I can't identify most of the insects that buzz right by me; often they are too fast to see clearly anyway. But they certainly are alien to me.   

You believe, or you don't. But I DID watch the video.   

This is precisely the difference between Christianity and all of the other religions; I mean all of them. At best the other religions present a way to do something right, to act in a good and right way. Christianity provides a way to be resurrected from the dead for a wonderful, everlasting life with God Himself. And, Christianity allows for one to become good at some art or skill or righteous living, at the same time. If BL wasn't a believing Christian, his return to life will be for the purpose of judgment into everlasting destruction.

I haven't watched Enter the Dragon in a long time. I don't remember the part about table tennis. 

Not really wanting to butt in, but, you need both, in very special order.

You need Jesus God because you have messed up in the past, and you can't avoid messing up at least a little in the future. You need to obey the "LAWS OF GOD/CREATION" to convince yourself that you believe in Jesus God.

The problem is simple. Most people have a hard time maintaining both of these, and the correct order in which to do them.

I'll pass. I'm not young enough or fit enough to try something like that. 

Problem with a time machine that you can only use once is, it will dump you into empty space. Either the earth has gone past the spot, or the earth hasn't reached the spot yet.

If you do it, your best bet is to go into the future. Do it inside a glider that can enter the atmosphere and glide to the earth safely. That way, if the earth ever catches up to the position you are at, you will be ready to glide back.

Odds are, however, that you will be taking your planetary motion with you, along with your time movement. This means that you will be completely lost in space once you get there, always a little ahead of the earth, or - if you go past - a little behind it.

Be careful about jumping only a split second. You just might wind up inside the earth. Don't know what would happen with your material trying to occupy the same position that some other material is occupying. But it might cause such a nuclear explosion that it would knock the whole earth over into the next solar system, or something.

I admire Bruce Lee's capabilities. Yet, all he did was to use controlled panic. Lots of martial arts people do this. I even do it at work at times, but only a little, simply to get a job done faster. So, my fellow workers think that I am really fast, even though I use it only a little. Thanks for the Smiley.

Jesus was man and God, not simply man. 

Only one problem with this idea. Even if you can be perfect from this point on, you have made mistakes in the past. Those mistakes are, at best, time lost. There's no way anyone can be perfect in the sight of God. Jesus was. God even testified to it.

Can't tell. Don't know what yo look like. Do you ever use any smileys?


God is merciful.

Formally denying Jesus as Savior is different than denying Him by simply not knowing about Him. Perhaps God has a good plan for you. Saint Paul was a denier of Jesus. Yet, when he confronted Jesus on the road to Damascus, he changed his ways. So, have you simply received mercy? Or have you been confronted by Jesus, but are still, at least, downplaying Him, if not outrightly denying Him.

Since this is an off-topic thread, inside an off-topic forum, does that really mean that the posts have to be on-topic, and that off-topic posts are really the on-topic ones?