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39641  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 07:15:00 PM
Oh that's right. You have already said that you agree that God exists. I forgot.  Smiley

Just keep in mind, mine is greater, for he does not recognise the devil, for the maths proves they are one and the same. I like to think my god is also the devil, as are we.

I don't have a clue who or what your god is. For all I know, he is the same one as mine is, just seen from a different direction.

The point is, the devil attempted to believe God out of existence. He did it by starting with his own personal thought control. Then he subtly attempted to introduce it into the thinking of people (through Adam and Eve). Well, he can't stop this habit of his, even though God has shown him down through the ages, over and over, that he can't believe God out of existence, and he can't delude all the people all of the time into believing God out of existence.

He knows God exists, in spite of himself.

Smiley

Now that's scary.. you go on about the bible and dont know who yaweh is?

In hebrew, there are 72 names of god. Now what name sums them ALL up?

The 216 digit number, that holy of hollies built into EVERY religious building represent's it..?


If you happen to be your own god, you are missing it. Even Moses and Elijah weren't God in essence, even though they both held some of the attributes of God. However, Jesus was... the Father gave Him the Spirit without limit.

The fact that you are willing to downplay, if not outrightly deny, Jesus, is a fruit that suggests that you are of the evil one, and not of God, no matter the language or names you use.

Because I AM not God either, I will have to treat you as Michael treated Satan when they were disputing over the body of Moses... "The Lord rebuke you..." Why? Because only the Lord knows the extent to which you need rebuking, or if you need it at all.

Smiley
39642  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 07:01:34 PM
Oh that's right. You have already said that you agree that God exists. I forgot.  Smiley

Just keep in mind, mine is greater, for he does not recognise the devil, for the maths proves they are one and the same. I like to think my god is also the devil, as are we.

I don't have a clue who or what your god is. For all I know, he is the same one as mine is, just seen from a different direction.

The point is, the devil attempted to believe God out of existence. He did it by starting with his own personal thought control. Then he subtly attempted to introduce it into the thinking of people (through Adam and Eve). Well, he can't stop this habit of his, even though God has shown him down through the ages, over and over, that he can't believe God out of existence, and he can't delude all the people all of the time into believing God out of existence.

He knows God exists, in spite of himself.

Smiley
39643  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: October 01, 2014, 06:55:45 PM
Don't worry, I have an iron helmet just in case.  Grin Grin Grin

Medieval/Ancient people was funny, if they win a battle "the lord was with them", but when they lose, the lord was never with the enemy... f**king retarded monkeys!

Shoot! And Goliath only had a bronze helmet.  Smiley
39644  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 06:49:56 PM
Oh that's right. You have already said that you agree that God exists. I forgot.  Smiley
39645  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 06:48:02 PM
As for the proof for God, it is right here. But there is even more that is not listed.

The first proof for the existence of God is the existence of the universe and everything therein.

The universe is a big machine. It is a highly complex machine. No machine ever existed without a Machine Maker. Whatever or Whoever the Machine Maker is, He is greater by far than mankind. By definition of the word "god," the Machine Maker is God.

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The second proof for the existence of God is, there is no pure random. Everything operates by cause and effect, action and reaction. A leaf blowing this way and that in the wind, does so according to the actions of wind molecules on it. The wind molecules act according to other wind molecules that are acting on them. All act according to the waves/particles of heat energy from the sun acting on them all.

Cause and effect goes all the way back to the beginning. Whatever was the Great First Cause was the only thing that had random in it. THAT random produced all the complexities of the universe that we see today, through the cause and effect, the action and reaction that followed.

The thing that people call random and probability is all based on the ignorance of the people. Nobody can follow all the actions of wind molecules on a leaf. People might be able to follow enough of the actions to make a good guess about how the leaf might move. This is the random that the people use. This is the only probability that exists. It is born of the ignorance of the people. There is no true, pure random.

The point is, whatever the Great First Cause is, be it the Big Bang, or be it the God of the Bible, or anything else, it is EXTREMELY God beyond anything we can envision God to be, simply because of the complexity it set up in the beginning, complexity that exists through cause and effect right down to the present.

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The third proof for the existence of God lies in the fact that there are billions of people around the world who believe there is a god. All science exists outside of the minds of scientists. A little of it resides in scientific languages (math and writing and speaking) within the minds of scientists. Because of the existence in the minds, the evidence for God in the minds of the people is as valid as any other proof. Even many scientists believe that God exists.

The longer the earth has existed, the longer God has existed in the minds of the people. God is there. He can't be removed from the minds of the people. He might be dulled somewhat, but He can't be removed. He exists.

Smiley

Smiley
39646  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 06:41:47 PM

So how did jesus feed the thousands? Please dont go into it, I know the story, my question is a simple one, how did he do it?

God is all powerful and can created out of nothing.

You keep making comments about some sort of miracle you have done.  Don't you realize that there have been numerous miracles done through dark magic and sorcery?  Just because it can be done does not make it good.  

Look at the the story of Moses and Pharoah in Exodus.  When Moses performed some miracles, such as turning his staff into a snake, water into blood and creating frogs from the land, the magicians or sorcerers were able to do it with their dark magic as well.  


Please do me a favour an stop goin on about this magic stuff, be it dark or light.. it realy, really is all the same to me. Go read the seer's burden, then try convincing me again, of what you just wrote?

Back soon Wink

Satan comes masquerading as an "angel of light."  Be careful.  His goal to is to come and "steal, kill and destroy" from us all.  The fact that it is all the same to you is what is the most disconcerting.  It shows you do not have any discernment in these things.


This is exactly the point. And BitChick has stated it in simple terms.

Nobody can do enough magic to save himself/herself from death. Jesus' focus wasn't on doing the miracles. His focus was on doing the one miracle that nobody else could do - saving from death for eternal life.

One need only look at the great mistake that Satan made when he became, possibly, the greatest miracle-doer of all time. He became proud and conceited, and ignored that only God could save him.

It doesn't take long for a person who can do miracles to fall into the same trap as Satan. All you have to do is look at how money corrupts, and money making doesn't even fall into the realm of miracles. Doing miracles is far worse.

This is why God condemns all who practice the magic arts. They might have success, but if they do, it will ultimately destroy them. And God wants EVERYONE to be saved. This why the focus needs to be on Jesus, and the ONE GREAT MIRACLE He did, the miracle of salvation.

Smiley

And you are seriously pushing me to the dark side.. not..

Anyway.. allow me to point you in the direction of a coconut. I must miss out on some vital instructions for fear of what others may do with what you are about to learn.

Take coconut, scoop out the white stuff, drink or eat, feel free, cause it's the cocounut carcas we want.

So you believe in the blood of christ do you? Allow me. It is not wine, blood, or anything other than .... a mouldy fungi, bred in a certain circmstance. It is almost an equivalant of fly agaric, so I'll use the effect's of fly agaric as an example to describe the fact that there are certain potent fungi that can be consumed, and once consumed, they pass through the body with the exact same potency, and will have the exact same potency after passing through 10.000 men. fly-agaric only works with up to 10 people in a row. When Jesus broke the bread, it was soaked not in fly-agaric, it was soaked in the coconut's version, Allowing him to feed maybe one or two people the actual bread, the rest drank their pish. The difference is that whilst fly-agaric is clearly at least 9.000 times weaker, but deadlier (poison), the coconut version can feed more than 5.000 from a single sip, such is the potency. But a potency that can FEED, as opposed to get them trippin. When I said googel filters certain documents, what I write here comes from one of them, which I have in my library, and am looking for whilst I type..

Please tell me I'm talking nonsense here, cause I know many others who read this will know again, a librarian knows more..

I will tentatively accept that you know what you are talking about. But be careful. With great knowledge also comes pride, and that pride can become great, as well. Pride detracts from salvation of the soul, which keeps the body from being saved as well.

Smiley

Dude, I read books, not just one. I have translated plutarch from ancient hellenic into english myself. Pride has nothing to do with what I'm doing here, all I been saying is that in the quest for scientific proof of god, I'm doin a better job than you, bitchick and cortex7 combined, pride has got nothing to do with it.. but slowly and surely the ice melts, and your all learning that, actually, god would rather I was on his side, then your satans..

All right. I will accept that you are some kind of knowledgeable guru. But you aren't strong enough to be able to live forever. And it seems that you aren't knowledgeable enough to recognize the salvation that Jesus offers. So, it seems that your pride of your own knowledge has tricked you into heading for destruction, after all, even if it is a sorta humble way.

Smiley
39647  Other / Off-topic / Re: IS UFO or ALIENS are real ? on: October 01, 2014, 06:38:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17bg7was59M

This is an amazing footage, but it seems like it was just a drone. IT was on live TV i saw it.

Unfortunately, right along with being able to make good video like this, comes the ability to edit it in all kinds of ways.

Smiley
39648  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 06:33:09 PM
Actually, when cannibals tie somebody to a "steak" and cook him and eat him, it ain't the person they're after. It's the steak.

Smiley

Actually, as you quite clearly state, it's the steak they are after, so would'nt it be easier to write, when cannibals tie a steak to a human who in turn is tied to a stake.. why not just eat the fuckin steak and leave the human who is still tied to the stake for puddin?

Spot your god given mistake homeboi

Because cannibals aren't so hard up that they have to be fuckin a steak.   Grin
39649  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 06:31:12 PM

So how did jesus feed the thousands? Please dont go into it, I know the story, my question is a simple one, how did he do it?

God is all powerful and can created out of nothing.

You keep making comments about some sort of miracle you have done.  Don't you realize that there have been numerous miracles done through dark magic and sorcery?  Just because it can be done does not make it good.  

Look at the the story of Moses and Pharoah in Exodus.  When Moses performed some miracles, such as turning his staff into a snake, water into blood and creating frogs from the land, the magicians or sorcerers were able to do it with their dark magic as well.  


Please do me a favour an stop goin on about this magic stuff, be it dark or light.. it realy, really is all the same to me. Go read the seer's burden, then try convincing me again, of what you just wrote?

Back soon Wink

Satan comes masquerading as an "angel of light."  Be careful.  His goal to is to come and "steal, kill and destroy" from us all.  The fact that it is all the same to you is what is the most disconcerting.  It shows you do not have any discernment in these things.


This is exactly the point. And BitChick has stated it in simple terms.

Nobody can do enough magic to save himself/herself from death. Jesus' focus wasn't on doing the miracles. His focus was on doing the one miracle that nobody else could do - saving from death for eternal life.

One need only look at the great mistake that Satan made when he became, possibly, the greatest miracle-doer of all time. He became proud and conceited, and ignored that only God could save him.

It doesn't take long for a person who can do miracles to fall into the same trap as Satan. All you have to do is look at how money corrupts, and money making doesn't even fall into the realm of miracles. Doing miracles is far worse.

This is why God condemns all who practice the magic arts. They might have success, but if they do, it will ultimately destroy them. And God wants EVERYONE to be saved. This why the focus needs to be on Jesus, and the ONE GREAT MIRACLE He did, the miracle of salvation.

Smiley

And you are seriously pushing me to the dark side.. not..

Anyway.. allow me to point you in the direction of a coconut. I must miss out on some vital instructions for fear of what others may do with what you are about to learn.

Take coconut, scoop out the white stuff, drink or eat, feel free, cause it's the cocounut carcas we want.

So you believe in the blood of christ do you? Allow me. It is not wine, blood, or anything other than .... a mouldy fungi, bred in a certain circmstance. It is almost an equivalant of fly agaric, so I'll use the effect's of fly agaric as an example to describe the fact that there are certain potent fungi that can be consumed, and once consumed, they pass through the body with the exact same potency, and will have the exact same potency after passing through 10.000 men. fly-agaric only works with up to 10 people in a row. When Jesus broke the bread, it was soaked not in fly-agaric, it was soaked in the coconut's version, Allowing him to feed maybe one or two people the actual bread, the rest drank their pish. The difference is that whilst fly-agaric is clearly at least 9.000 times weaker, but deadlier (poison), the coconut version can feed more than 5.000 from a single sip, such is the potency. But a potency that can FEED, as opposed to get them trippin. When I said googel filters certain documents, what I write here comes from one of them, which I have in my library, and am looking for whilst I type..

Please tell me I'm talking nonsense here, cause I know many others who read this will know again, a librarian knows more..

I will tentatively accept that you know what you are talking about. But be careful. With great knowledge also comes pride, and that pride can become great, as well. Pride detracts from salvation of the soul, which keeps the body from being saved as well.

Smiley
39650  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 06:24:26 PM
Actually, when cannibals tie somebody to a "steak" and cook him and eat him, it ain't the person they're after. It's the steak.

Smiley
39651  Other / Off-topic / Re: IS UFO or ALIENS are real ? on: October 01, 2014, 06:21:23 PM
PROOF of space aliens:

No $#!t, the footprint below was made on the moon by a creature from another world!


But seriously, there is a problem with the mathematical likelihood assumption. This idea assumes that because space is vast and full of worlds not to different than ours, there is a good chance that other life exists. And just as we predicted that we would find other planets it is predicted that we will eventually find other life.

That makes sense, but the problem is that we have only one example of life. If we had even two examples then we could assume that life is common in the universe. One data point tells you almost nothing. Since all living things we are aware of are actually the same one living thing and species are just variations of that first DNA life form, it is possible that life only happened once and this is it.
 




Good pic. If there is life out there, it got there from here, through a space program in our distant past, at a time that people were far more intelligent and capable than we are, because entropy hadn't had the chance to do such a big decline in their lives, yet, as it has in ours.

Smiley
39652  Other / Off-topic / Re: IS UFO or ALIENS are real ? on: October 01, 2014, 06:17:47 PM
These people would have investigated all the available data before doing the life-hunting on Mars project - http://www.space.com/27073-exolance-mars-life-search-idea.html .

This means that as far as anybody knows, there isn't any life out there. Anything to the opposite is simply speculation. My one fear is that we are going to inadvertently introduce life out there, and then we'll try to claim we found it.

Of course, this project might be a great way to covertly start terra-forming Mars.

Smiley
39653  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 06:08:04 PM

So how did jesus feed the thousands? Please dont go into it, I know the story, my question is a simple one, how did he do it?

God is all powerful and can created out of nothing.

You keep making comments about some sort of miracle you have done.  Don't you realize that there have been numerous miracles done through dark magic and sorcery?  Just because it can be done does not make it good.  

Look at the the story of Moses and Pharoah in Exodus.  When Moses performed some miracles, such as turning his staff into a snake, water into blood and creating frogs from the land, the magicians or sorcerers were able to do it with their dark magic as well.  


Please do me a favour an stop goin on about this magic stuff, be it dark or light.. it realy, really is all the same to me. Go read the seer's burden, then try convincing me again, of what you just wrote?

Back soon Wink

Satan comes masquerading as an "angel of light."  Be careful.  His goal to is to come and "steal, kill and destroy" from us all.  The fact that it is all the same to you is what is the most disconcerting.  It shows you do not have any discernment in these things.


This is exactly the point. And BitChick has stated it in simple terms.

Nobody can do enough magic to save himself/herself from death. Jesus' focus wasn't on doing the miracles. His focus was on doing the one miracle that nobody else could do - saving from death for eternal life.

One need only look at the great mistake that Satan made when he became, possibly, the greatest miracle-doer of all time. He became proud and conceited, and ignored that only God could save him.

It doesn't take long for a person who can do miracles to fall into the same trap as Satan. All you have to do is look at how money corrupts, and money making doesn't even fall into the realm of miracles. Doing miracles is far worse.

This is why God condemns all who practice the magic arts. They might have success, but if they do, it will ultimately destroy them. And God wants EVERYONE to be saved. This why the focus needs to be on Jesus, and the ONE GREAT MIRACLE He did, the miracle of salvation.

Smiley
39654  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 05:00:18 PM

So how did jesus feed the thousands? Please dont go into it, I know the story, my question is a simple one, how did he do it?

Wish I had the answer to that. My lunch won't be done cookin' for 10 or 15 minutes, yet. And I'm hungry now.

 Cheesy
39655  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 04:39:42 PM
And just when I thought we were becoming fast friends. You know, all fuzzy like.   Wink
39656  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 04:29:30 PM
Scared to prove it without any takers?  Smiley
39657  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ebola has reached America on: October 01, 2014, 04:14:32 PM
Ebola is a hemorrhagic fever. It kills about half of those who contract it. It sometimes, though not always, leads to uncontrollable bleeding. But it's difficult to contract. The only way to catch Ebola is to have direct contact with the bodily fluids — vomit, sweat, blood, feces, urine or saliva — of someone who has Ebola and has begun showing symptoms.

Modern public-health systems can manage diseases that travel through bodily fluids. The techniques are laborious, but known. You isolate those who have contracted the disease, or might have contracted it. You find out who's been near them. You screen them for the disease. You isolate anyone who shows symptoms. You do this until the disease is stamped out. It works. And modern public-health systems know how to do it.


Read more at http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/163957-2014-10-01-don-39-t-panic-over-ebola-in-america.htm .

Smiley
39658  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins Could Help Fight Ebola on: October 01, 2014, 04:12:50 PM
Ebola is a hemorrhagic fever. It kills about half of those who contract it. It sometimes, though not always, leads to uncontrollable bleeding. But it's difficult to contract. The only way to catch Ebola is to have direct contact with the bodily fluids — vomit, sweat, blood, feces, urine or saliva — of someone who has Ebola and has begun showing symptoms.

Modern public-health systems can manage diseases that travel through bodily fluids. The techniques are laborious, but known. You isolate those who have contracted the disease, or might have contracted it. You find out who's been near them. You screen them for the disease. You isolate anyone who shows symptoms. You do this until the disease is stamped out. It works. And modern public-health systems know how to do it.


Read more at http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/163957-2014-10-01-don-39-t-panic-over-ebola-in-america.htm .

Smiley
39659  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 02:55:28 PM
The first proof for the existence of God is the existence of the universe and everything therein.

The universe is a big machine. It is a highly complex machine. No machine ever existed without a Machine Maker. Whatever or Whoever the Machine Maker is, He is greater by far than mankind. By definition of the word "god," the Machine Maker is God.

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The second proof for the existence of God is, there is no pure random. Everything operates by cause and effect, action and reaction. A leaf blowing this way and that in the wind, does so according to the actions of wind molecules on it. The wind molecules act according to other wind molecules that are acting on them. All act according to the waves/particles of heat energy from the sun acting on them all.

Cause and effect goes all the way back to the beginning. Whatever was the Great First Cause was the only thing that had random in it. THAT random produced all the complexities of the universe that we see today, through the cause and effect, the action and reaction that followed.

The thing that people call random and probability is all based on the ignorance of the people. Nobody can follow all the actions of wind molecules on a leaf. People might be able to follow enough of the actions to make a good guess about how the leaf might move. This is the random that the people use. This is the only probability that exists. It is born of the ignorance of the people. There is no true, pure random.

The point is, whatever the Great First Cause is, be it the Big Bang, or be it the God of the Bible, or anything else, it is EXTREMELY God beyond anything we can envision God to be, simply because of the complexity it set up in the beginning, complexity that exists through cause and effect right down to the present.

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The third proof for the existence of God lies in the fact that there are billions of people around the world who believe there is a god. All science exists outside of the minds of scientists. A little of it resides in scientific languages (math and writing and speaking) within the minds of scientists. Because of the existence in the minds, the evidence for God in the minds of the people is as valid as any other proof. Even many scientists believe that God exists.

The longer the earth has existed, the longer God has existed in the minds of the people. God is there. He can't be removed from the minds of the people. He might be dulled somewhat, but He can't be removed. He exists.

Smiley
39660  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 02:14:13 PM


Have I read the emerald tablets? At one point, every day like some read a bible, not only that, I've re-written it, and comes in the form of an audio book that I created for a blind friend. I have worked in esoteric fields, I have read every esoteric book available online, previous to the last few years, the older the better.. If ya wanna attack an aquarian in the age of aquarius keep in mind that the diety we seek evidence of is more likely to back me up for the next 26.000 years. Have you ever known an aquarian to toe the line, to do what they're told, to follow old, when they ARE the creators of origionality in ways you could not fathom? They are not only the ORIGIONATORS, and hence akin to a creator, something you are incapable of as you attack despite my evidence that god was required to feed his kid. But you only choose to see what you wanna see, you have to look with better eyes..
So... The Superiority Complex emerges in it's full glory for all to see. Keep on keeping on brother. You're so much more than I.

Get it right dick (yup, another foreskin puller who dont believe, so attacks those who try to), I have no superior complex, and I'll bet you 100 btc right now that I have the actual answer the OP seeks, if you dont have 100 btc, fuck off back to school. YOU cant afford to have a conversation with me, especially when you refuse the evidence.

Where is YOUR scientific proof of god? If you dont believe, fuck off to the alcoholic pc section designed entirely for clueless cunts like you.

100btc for THE definative answer, the fee is a disclosure fee, take it or leave it.. bet you CANT (using the excuse you wont) pay for the answer you seek, or you would not be reading my junk, idiot!!!!!

And the reason I attack is cause your that dumb you think I'm your brother, stop LYING, and go get a fuckin brain.

Edit: remix of above sentence: The reason I attack you is your that dumb you believe that I am your brother, despite me writing in this thread my mother is dead, making me having a brother SCIENTIFICALLY impossible, stop trying to convince people of your delusions by lying in the hope your kindred will jump in to back YOU up, do I look like your brother? If so, forgive me.. now here's your straight jacket, there's the fuckin door, use it.

Oh, and if it appear's to you I have a superior complex, you are mistaken.. you were told to read books, NOT pdf's or html. It's not my fault I have a superior Scottish education to your fuckin tribal nonsense.. I bet the only reason you dance around the fire is cause you've yet to learn not to stand on hot embers.

Ps, that 100 btc for the definitive answer is offered to all, not that we need it.. but it's worth paying.

You and your 100btc. Who is going to judge? If you take it before a common law court in the U.K (Queen's Bench), the answer is that whatever the both of you believe is what is true. There isn't any evidence except a lot of gibberish writing. There isn't any proof. So, neither of you are in any danger of losing 100btc. It's a draw. And you already know this. So you can talk big.

Smiley
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