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39741  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: After ASIC what comes next? on: March 08, 2015, 02:06:33 AM
ASIC is a clas off dedicated chips. After ASICS you get more ASICS using smaller transistors. The tech to build them already exists, its only a matter of economics now.
Yes this could be possible, just it's a question of bitcoin price and electricity price. As now I don't fit in with current btc/electricity ratio.

They do not need to make better chips.

  First asic was  6-9 watts a gh.

Best shown was Asic Miner at .3-.4 watts

Best for sale is .48 watts at the wall.   so  first asic to best is 15 to 20x  better.


but GPUS were 1000 watts to 1 gh   so the first asic was 150x better then a gpu.

What is needed now is better power prices.  If I am in Tennessee at 8 cents a kwatt a simple move to Washington state  and I drop to 3 or 4 cents a kwatt..

So the next asic chip will drop us to .2-.3 watts at the wall from .48 watts at the wall.  What is easier for a big guy make a better chip or setup in Washington state?

We are not going to see 150x improvements in watts to gh anymore.

  We may see a movement to replace this




with this



39742  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [300 TH] mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor/cjdns on: March 08, 2015, 01:24:17 AM
Looks like the pool is down?
The backup1.mmpool.org interface was down for a short period but the other mining points were operational.

yeah it used all my rented hash fine.  no block but my guy moved up the list from 114 to 50 something
39743  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Feb 22 to March 9 diff thread with contest included. on: March 08, 2015, 01:21:12 AM
Bitcoinwisdom is showing an estimated next difficulty of +1.13% and the spreadsheet is showing that the network  is on pace for a 1.05% increase, but the 3 day moving average is -2.79% so the estimate is on a downtrend. With only 123 blocks to go I would say the chances of the difficulty adjustment falling within the unclaimed range of +.5 to +1.0% is pretty high right now.

yeah  if we get  a carry over   my pick is once again -1.11%    so what ever slot  that falls into is mine.

Pretty amazing if it falls into the carry over number.

But it is right there as of now.

39744  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: 2 AVA4.1s Won! [4400 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: March 07, 2015, 11:46:27 PM
Ugh. Stuck at another looong block. :facepalm:.
no no not so fast 346616 stays here

Yeah after 22hours.. Ugh.
LOL - I wonder if there's too much information on the web site when a 163% block is called a 'looong block' Smiley
The CDF shows that 1/5 of blocks are expected to be longer than that.


well 163% is like me.  At 6 foot even I am the beginning of 'tall'

So it would be the beginning of long.
39745  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [lee group]340$ the sales promotion of hosted antminer S5(golden psu included) on: March 07, 2015, 11:34:33 PM
+1 on hosting fee drop

I am trying to sell some ssd's and a motherboard to get money for one more miner..

In the mean time I am going to change pools on two miners.  Sending you a pm.



I sent PM  to change pools on 1 miner in


Chengdu


once it is switched.

 I hope to order 1 more miner.   


Thanks Philipma1957
39746  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 29 blocks solved! on: March 07, 2015, 11:15:18 PM
Long time lurker since late 2010... I'm 1LjJJS3rbo91FEdbY6o7YoVEEwkEtb7WZh. Thanks for running this pool folks. (And yes, that was rented hash power).

very nice the lurker gets a block!
39747  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: USED but good ssd's. many used good 2.5 inch hdds $0 ship to all 50 states. on: March 07, 2015, 09:22:49 PM
Sent you a PM on the 830.

got it and I am putting the 830 on hold need to go shopping will smart check it later today.


passes with good marks 2196 hours
39748  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: USED but good ssd's. many used good 2.5 inch hdds $0 ship to all 50 states. on: March 07, 2015, 07:48:09 PM
For now the samsung 840's are spoken for.
39749  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: USED but good ssd's. many used good 2.5 inch hdds $0 ship to all 50 states. on: March 07, 2015, 07:36:24 PM
Interested in one or both of the Samsung 840's depending on price.

make me an offer for the 2 via pm
39750  Economy / Computer hardware / Sold- USED but good ssd's. many used good 2.5 inch hdds $0 ship to all 50 states. on: March 07, 2015, 07:24:29 PM
Okay I have done my spring cleaning.

I had 20 gpu rigs for mining lite coin.

I am at the ssd's I used in them. lots of ssd's and 2.5 inch hdds cheap as they are used.

2 samsung ssd's---- samsung ssd 840 model 250gb-------------------------- 1 sold 1 waiting payment both 840's are sold

1 samsung ssd------model 830 256gb   Sold

this ssd below is all I have.

1 samsung ssd----- 5pa2560/0d1   may be an  or model 800   810 it is older 256gb and is sata II not sata III

it is like this one.  I would crush the ebay price on it below.  Under 65 shipped

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-256GB-SATA-Laptop-Internal-2-5-MZ-77PA2560-0D1-SSD-Solid-State-Drive-/261806759882?pt=US_Solid_State_Drives&hash=item3cf4e61fca


I have lots hdds 2.5 inch models

hitachi apple 500gh 5400 rpm Jul 11
hitachi apple 320gh 5400 rpm May 10
hitachi          500gh 5400 rpm Sep 12
1 hgst          1tb     7200 rpm Feb 13
1 hgst          1tb     5400 rpm Jul 13
2 hgst          1tb      5400 rpm JUL 13 and apr 13

wd scorpio black 750gh 7200 rpm  AUG 2012  Jun2012 2 used   new is  jun 2012





39751  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [lee group]340$ the sales promotion of hosted antminer S5(golden psu included) on: March 07, 2015, 07:12:42 PM
Thank You

I noticed last night that one of my S5s was not working, and sent a note.  This morning I looked and it was only hashing at half speed.  I sent Lee a note and Within the hour I received a reply that he had replaced my miner with a new one and it is hashing away.

great service.

Now I am digging in the couch to find some loose change to buy more machines

Barbara

I have 4 with lee and 5 in house.

I plan to go to 5 soon and drop in house to 3.
Finally end at 6 with lee and 2 in house.

In the summer I can not have more then 1000 watts mining in house.
I am looking about my attic for stuff to sell on ebay I found a new in box motherboard.  Grabbed it and 10 others when I was mining litecoin.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASRock-H77m-Motherboard-new-free-shipping-/151611797954?

I found  ssd's used but good will list them.


39752  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Feb 22 to March 9 diff thread with contest included. on: March 07, 2015, 06:44:48 PM
Something is messed up with Ghash.io pool

Current block is 19 hours with 17Ph/s

and 2 blocks prior it took 10 hours with 13Ph/s.




yes they have been a big factor in this lower rate.

It is pretty amazing to see Ghash go from worried about 51 percent to a smaller pool.  If you look at last 24 hours they are only 2 percent of blocks found. https://blockchain.info/pools

I will be happy if we get the 1 percent raise only with btc price slowly going up.
Well I think it is concerning that ~54% of the network hash rate is made up of pools based in china (and likely have a lot of their miners based in china).

It is my understanding that a lot of miners in china are actually very large mining farms, often controlled by a small group of people with some groups controlling multiple farms.
As long as builders sell some home mining gear things will work out.  Home miners are a safety net for BTC   here is why:

 we can put the heat to use.
My house is in NJ, USA
A wicked cold winter has been in progress.  In my development 2 or 3 homes have had frozen pipes not me.  WHY btc miners set in spots where pipes may freeze.

See this thread


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951758.0

I ran one for more then 1 month I ran an sp20 in the room and I ran an s-5 in the room.

Basically I used 1000 watts to mine in this spare bedroom since dec 1st.   It is under my kitchen and reduces the danger of pipe freeze to 0.

If I did not mine I would of ran this at 600 watts for the last 3 months

39753  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Feb 22 to March 9 diff thread with contest included. on: March 07, 2015, 06:20:09 PM
Something is messed up with Ghash.io pool

Current block is 19 hours with 17Ph/s

and 2 blocks prior it took 10 hours with 13Ph/s.




yes they have been a big factor in this lower rate.

It is pretty amazing to see Ghash go from worried about 51 percent to a smaller pool.  If you look at last 24 hours they are only 2 percent of blocks found. https://blockchain.info/pools

I will be happy if we get the 1 percent raise only with btc price slowly going up.

BTC world is a roller-coaster ride for sure.

Just  159 blocks to go.  even if they were all made in a few hours we would only go to +5%.  With price up 17% that works for me.

Since this entire year we have not made 159 blocks in less then 20 hours.  2%-2.5% looks like the max  jump.  more likely  +.076% to 2%

Would be funny if one of the  two empty ranges come in.
39754  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [300 TH] mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor/cjdns on: March 07, 2015, 06:13:15 PM
Looks like the pool is down?

seems f'd up figures I rent a few hundred th and it crashes.
39755  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [PPS 2% fee] NiceHash.com pool - higher profits than direct mining BTC! on: March 07, 2015, 05:41:40 PM
My miners are hashing good (1 TH each) but when I view the stats page they are only doing 800 GH/sec. And the speed rejected is like %2 to %4. When I've tried other pools I was always at at least 980-1TH/sec. Any idea what that could be? I'm just trying out this pool for the first time today.


Also, does the mining default to PPLNS?
And I put D=1024 in the password, but it still cranks it up to 4096 by itself.

I'm strictly mining BTC, nothing special. The title of this thread says "higher profits than difect mining BTC", where are those higher profits coming from and how long after you start mining there you will see that?

I'm pretty familiar with settings up my pools, but this one seems a little confusing. I'm just a little more concerned with why the difficulty is jumping way up to 4096 when I set it at 1024 in the password field to 1024 using "D=1024" from help from a previous post.

Also why my hashing speeds on my miners here at home are going full blast but when I check the westhash site I have high speed rejected stats. Unless I'm just not understanding this pool and it's setup.

Thanks.

d=1024 is wrong  never use it.


use p= ?

p is for price you want to rent at.

So set it for p=0.0121  and you will skip the pool unless someone pays  that high .

one of my sp20e settings  so it looks at west and nice hash to see if I can sell high. right now I can't it goes to my third choice.

As an aside this ability to list more then 6 pools is on sp20e's and is very good for people using west and nice hash.

At no cost in hash or time it checks and skips west-nice hash until the time is right. then scoops in and gets  a high price automatically when it is available.

Basically if you have sp20e's and don't do a setup  like mine below you are throwing money away.


39756  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: MegaBigPower Opens Buyback for Unprofitable Bitcoin Miners on: March 07, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
Hype or not, it's fairly accurate. Spondoolies has always mentioned in the past that their margins were not great. In addition to ASICs, each board in the SP20 contains 16 VRM phases (twice as many as an S1) compared to the S5's zero VRMs. The controller was designed entirely in-house instead of leveraging an off-the-shelf devboard. By a pure components count I bet the SP20 is over the S5 by a full order of magnitude. The PCB very likely contains quite a bit more copper as well, given the current density required for their ASIC topology. That they sold SP20s at the same price point as an S5, I'd believe the last of the machines they actually took a loss on.

Remember, none of these companies are out there to support miners.

I'm going to try as hard as I can to make a solid miner design in the next several months, and if I can do what I want to do you'll eat those words.

Anyway, MBP's miner buyback.

yeah once they were selling them at 500 with shipping included they were not profiting .
39757  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Feb 22 to March 9 diff thread with contest included. on: March 07, 2015, 03:31:57 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qmF2knc5rSrJLESgQJYBz8mPzpKihmSzPPQUGH7pT8g/edit#gid=978410053

sat the 7th east coast time is 10:30 am

estimate is 0.97%

there is a chance no one will pick the correct number we have 2 empty slots.


jmumich -0.01 to -0.25%
A4Tech 0.00% DOUBLE REWARD!
Jamphone +0.01 to +0.25%
cryptokc +0.26% to +0.50%

+.51 to +1.00   ---------------------------no takers  we are in this area right now


alh +1.01 to 1.25%
edonkey's cat +1.26 to +1.50%
SunnyIgor +1.51% to +1.75%
tss +1.76% to +2.00%
Kexkey +2.01 to +2.25%
ScryptAsic +2.26 to +2.50%
buyandhold +2.51 to +2.75%


As time runs down we look to stay in the ranges above.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty 

they have 1.23%

 BTC at 270.50 usd

so if things hold lets say +1% diff and +15% price change for this adjustment.

This is a win for miners. 2 or 3 diff adjustment periods of +1%  for diff and + 15% for price and mining will look a lot better.
39758  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Review of Avalon-4.1 on: March 07, 2015, 11:51:56 AM
About time for me to get one I think...Thanks for all your guys/gals hard work out there with these reviews and such.
valkir has coupons
39759  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain! Will u release the newer version of the S4 with the new chips? S6 maybe on: March 07, 2015, 06:29:38 AM
They have no need to sell it if they have it they will mine it for 2 months.

BTC price will not support sale of the s-6 at this time. I see no gear for the next 30 days. Maybe  April 25th.
39760  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Feb 22 to March 9 diff thread with contest included. on: March 07, 2015, 05:09:04 AM
at 11;29 PM EAST COAST TIME +1.19%

BASICALLY STAYED FLAT FOR THE LAST 24 HOURS !!
 

239 blocks to go

most likely max jump will not exceed 5%  we would need to do  the 239 blocks in 1 day to go over 5% .  That won't happen most

 likely  +1 to +3%

+0.51 to +1.00  was left empty

+1.01 to +5.75 are all filled up.

see below:



jmumich -0.01 to -0.25%
A4Tech 0.00% DOUBLE REWARD! Smiley
Jamphone +0.01 to +0.25%
cryptokc +0.26% to +0.50%

+.51 to +1.00   ---------------------------no takers


alh +1.01 to 1.25%
edonkey's cat +1.26 to +1.50%
SunnyIgor +1.51% to +1.75%
tss +1.76% to +2.00%
Kexkey +2.01 to +2.25%
ScryptAsic +2.26 to +2.50%
buyandhold +2.51 to +2.75%
Swordsoffreedom +2.76 to +3.00%
SimplisticStu +3.01 to +3.25%
Biodom +3.26 to +3.50%
Korbman +3.51% to +3.75%
tlhIlwI +3.76 to +4.00%
HerbPean +4.01 to +4.25%
mavericklm +4.26 to +4.50%
armedmilitia +4.51 to +4.75%
Quickseller +4.76 to +5.00%
RedhatCAT +5.01 to +5.25%
Ume +5.26% to +5.50%
zebedee +5.51 to +5.75%



I do not think it will go  higher then zebedee or lower then  jmunich  but you never know.  It would be funny if it is one of  the two missing picks.
I think it really depends on if you are right in saying that the massive drop in hash rate was due to ghash going down.

If you are correct then the miners would have been only effectively temporary taken offline and that hash power would have effectively be put back on the network, and all else being equal the estimated next difficulty will rise from where it is now.

If however the drop in hash rate was due to some amount of miners being "permanently" being taken offline then the average block time will continue to fall and will decrease the estimated next difficulty verses where we are now.

Well lets say we are down 20ph due to ghash.  even it they all come back perfectly as I snap my fingers we jump from 340ph to 360ph  with the amount of blocks left in this adjustment it is too hard to go up to 5 %.  But next jump we will go up a lot.

this entire year the most blocks made in 1 day has been about 166.  so if we do that pace   we go over 2% but under 3% in the next 24 hours.

I for one like any number under 3%  .  price is up about 10%   and diff at 3% works well against that number.
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