Brentford never splashed the cash they got from entering the Premier League, they are a good footballing side doing the right things on and off the football pitch. Keeping all that aside, Liverpool will be feeling they should have won the match but I think Brentford could also have won it. What a great football league the English Premier League is 

Liverpool will be unhappy by not managing to win at Brentford but in the end it is the Premier League and in this league minnows have every chance to beat giants and Brentford stood tall against a strong Liverpool team and managed a draw.

This season is already turning in to a potential classic  

Here are the results of all the Premier League fixtures that took place today:

Chelsea 0-1 Manchester City

Manchester United 0-1 Aston Villa

Everton 2-0 Norwich City

Leeds United 1-2 West Ham United

Leicester City 2-2 Burnley

Watford 1-1 Newcastle United

Brentford 3-3 Liverpool

Manchester City take 3 points way at Chelsea
Aston Villa take 3 points away at Manchester United
Everton start well under Benitez as their manager
West Ham continue to do well under their manager Moyes
Leicester cannot beat Burnley
Newcastle just cannot get a win
Brentford stun Liverpool in to draw

What a fantastic day of Premier League football we were treated to 

I understand the situation a little bit better now after reading your post.

I have not looked in the background information of the OP or tried to verify his claims but his age is stated in the neutral feedback and by his own admission he was allegedly involved with coding which at the time would have put him at around (as you correctly stated) 10 years old and there not many in the forum who would believe that and even so there is no way to ascertain what he says it true or otherwise.

I am beginning to feel the same as you stated: "people are not always who they say they are" therefore on that note I am making my final post in this thread.

During my time in the forum I have never come across a post such as the one used by the OP. If what has been mentioned is true then it really is creepy.


I think the method you suggest is definitely one way to look at the situation, for the OP to grow and be tough but they are still a child.

I think the best course of action for now would be to advise the OP to seek some sort of help by speaking to an adult family member or a school teacher to address the gambling issue. It seems a child is gambling using crypto and it is not either a priority or concern to members of the forum and that cannot be right.

What is the official age limit here to register an account? If anybody knows please post here.

The results from the early kick-off games today were:

Here are the Premier League fixtures taking place on Saturday 25th September 2021:

Chelsea 0-1 Manchester City

Manchester United 0-1 Aston Villa

      
Both ended with the home teams losing.

Chelsea for me were favourites against Manchester City but what a result for Guardiola and his team to defeat Tuchel and Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. It was a complete surprise seeing Villa walk away from Old Trafford with 3 points inflicting a home defeat for Manchester United.

Manchester City have thrown down the gauntlet so early in the season and it shows they mean business  

Joshua: 24
Usyk: 11
Draw: 2



We are up to 37 votes in the poll and Joshua has moved up to 24 while Usyk is still on 11. The fight is taking place this evening but the interest is still not that big as far as the media is concerned. Where in the world is the hype and excitement because it certainly is not in the UK media.

The early kick-off games taking place today are Chelsea vs Manchester City and Manchester United vs Aston Villa. Those games will kick-off in 45 minutes tome (12.30pm) local time....

Exciting for Premier League fans 

That is true, this fight is in the shadows of Fury vs Wilder III but Joshua does not seem to getting the media exposure in the UK that he deserves. Usyk is fast, he has fast hands he is quick and when he gets going I think Joshua will semi-panic and recall how Ruiz defeated him in the first fight with those fast hands.

At some stage Joshua should start to take control of the fight and dominate with his jab wearing Usyk down but he was the former undisputed world cruiserweight champion so Joshua will not take any chances. It will be an interesting fight to watch with Usyk probably trying to get a KO or TKO knowing he might last beyond 4 rounds...  and Joshua probably happy to go the distance slowing wearing him down and winning on a points decision or by catching him cold after a few rounds and having his on KO or TKO.

Votes cast in the poll: 32

Manchester United 12
Manchester City 10
Liverpool 5
Chelsea 3
Leicester City 2


It seems like the Ronaldo effect is taking place in the minds of voters because Manchester United now are leading the race to become Premier League champions 2021/22 with 12 votes. The season is long, anything could happen and it is far too early to say which teams within the top 4 will break away and start to accumulate points to stay at the top but for me I think Liverpool will finish the league in 4th position and the Manchester clubs and Chelsea will be in the top 3.

Really? You will deal with him later and deal with me first?  




Seriously you are getting more and more preposterous as the seconds tick by. I will take a break from this thread too....

Edit: I still have not got on to pages 3-10 of that so-called 1xbit scammers Honest Review thread but will do so as soon as I can and as mentioned in the OP tag any account that warrants it.

Thank you. It is the truth, they are simply avoiding engaging with victims and are trying to answer the questions they want and then ignore the others.

I hope we can all work together as a community to minimise the impact the 1xbit scammers will have by trapping fewer victims.

As Loyce mentioned, Telegram is a scammers paradise but whether you make a deal directly on this forum via PM or off it such as on Telegram, it is a huge risk.

It might be obvious to others but I am unsure until/unless you state it: why did you want to buy a Hero and Legendary account rather than build up your own account as you went along? And did those accounts come with a signature campaign already participated in? $7600 is a lot of money to pay for 2 accounts.

I have mixed feelings about this because nobody deserves to be scammed but at the same time account buying and selling is frowned upon in the forum. I hope you keep us posted because if you have been scammed but have screenshots available then at least we can all tag the associated accounts rendering them almost useless.

At the same time, if you do manage to get access to those accounts and then later they are discovered to be sold then they will most probably be tagged anyway so you really should have tried to build up your own account in your own personality rather try to buy in a risky sale worth $7600.

I assure you I am not crazy, literally or otherwise - why would you say that about me?

Which people are you referring to when you say you cannot believe what we are writing?


iv4n is behaving in an unacceptable manner throwing a tantrum because he and his supporters have not yet been able to achieve their goal of applying pressure on me to change the tag to neutral (but I am still open to consensus as mentioned in the OP). He has fallen to low levels of personal insults because he cannot engage in conversation or debate.

He should have owned up to the fact he tried his best to promote the 1xbit scammers without giving too much credit to them in the hope something such as this thread would not occur.

Instead of just holding up his hand to admit he was naive at the very least for selling out his reputation at the chance of getting just $30 from a known and widely accepted scam-outfit and then saying he regretted doing it - on the contrary he sees nothing wrong with the absolute nonsense of a so-called honest review he posted for which he received $30.


The trust on your iplnightrider account shows you just woke up after a long period of inactivity. It was registered in 2016 and you made 1 post in 2016. After that you decided to use this sock-puppet account to make 1 more post and you make it here defending somebody such as iv4n and you are expected to be taken seriously?

After an absence lasting over 5 years your first and only post was made today and you insist another member modify a tag?

Congratulations you have the grand total of 2 posts in over 5 years since the account was registered but your plan to use it as a sleeper/farmed account has backfired.



Who exactly are you referring to as minions? Can you name names because I would like to read their posts in an attempt to discover why you would conclude they did not deserve merits.

The fight is taking place tomorrow yet there is such little hype about it in the media in the UK. Something is not right about that.

After a lot of doom and gloom of the past couple of years, many boxing fans are looking forward to the Joshua vs Usyk fight and also the Fury vs Wilder III fight but the lack of hype and publicity surround the fight tomorrow was not expected. Maybe if Joshua was fighting a bigger than Usyk name then there would be hype and noise in the media but the lack of presence in the media in general has let boxing fans down.

I am not in any doubt. I think iv4n deserves a red tag and it should stay but just for the sake of not having my thread about asking 1xbit promoters to refrain being flooded with pro-iv4n posts I created this and am willing to change the tag to neutral if the consensus shows it would be more conducive.

EDIT:

Well, the borovichok account woke up 3 weeks ago after having over 3 years of inactivity. Between April 2018 and September 2021 the account was inactive and then goes over the top while defending a member that has obviously made a dubious post for the sake of just $30. I suppose can be seen as somewhat suspicious.

At least borovichok and iv4n have the same opinions when it comes to saying good things about the 1xbit scammers  

Votes cast in the poll: 31

Manchester United 11
Manchester City 10
Liverpool 5
Chelsea 3
Leicester City 2


Chelsea have notched up another vote in the poll here. I have to say I think Chelsea will finish higher in the league than Liverpool this season and I see them both in the top 4 at the end of the season.

Sadly your name has been dragged in to this but instead of reading what I wrote the OP about the reason to tag or not to tag members in that thread, they quoted you and others when it was not necessary.

I am also somewhat surprised at the army you mentioned, it is one thing to post to try to defend someone and another thing to act as a mouthpiece or advocate.


Loyce, good to hear from you  

Actually the reason for asking opinions of the wider community was because the thread I created to request 1xbit promoters to kindly refrain from doing so, was being flooded with pro-iv4n messages and I wanted to keep that thread free from either spam or flooding: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5347222.0

I am not in doubt, for me the tag should remain but I was on the verge of changing it to neutral if the wider community thought it was warranted over the red by taking the conversation out of that thread and in to a dedicated one.


You have a valid point. What becomes more problematic here is if other posts from forum members in pages 3-10 of that thread are even more favourable towards the 1xbit scammers but demand a particular action (removal or reduction) in relation to any tag... having said that it should not detract from a separate debate about what is being said about the trust system being appropriately in the wider sense across the forum.

I am not surprised that several members in this thread have concluded iv4n was dishonest in his review which was akin to promoting a known scam and he did it with a care for any potential victims that could be affected after reading fake reviews and he did it all for the sake of a $30 payment.

Ok

If you think an incorrect use of the trust system has been applied am I the only forum member you noticed using it? The action you took in this particular case was to post in this thread and state your opposition but have you applied the same vigilance to other forum members you deem to be using the trust system incorrectly or is this only case where you have been vocal?

There is a fine line between hard facts and interpretations of facts, how one sees them is debatable and we all have a right to our opinions.

It is your opinion and you are entitled to it but here are some of us that disagree with that view.

In my opinion (and other members in this thread) the manner in which iv4n used highly selective text in order to please the 1xbit scammers in the belief it would ensure a $30 payment was not appropriate because it was viewed less as an honest review and more of a semi-promotion akin to a shill and he put himself in that position where his integrity and credibility is now being questioned.


As mentioned to you earlier in this thread:

"if you can provide me a link to show where other members have posted a tag worthy promotion or semi-promotion of the 1xbit scammers in the first 2 pages of that thread (because that is how far I have made it so far), I will tag them. Kindly allow me some time to go through the remaining 10 or so pages, I will look forward to reading your views in this thread after."


Yes it clear iv4n knew exactly what he was doing with that so-called honest review.

I appreciate the views, thank you.

Yes iv4n should have known better but the fact he continues to play ignorant and does not own up to what his real intention was when choosing those words in the so-called Honest review thread also does not help the situation. It was him that put himself in a position where his integrity could be doubted - just for the sake of a one-off $30 payment from a scam website that has too many allegations against it in this very forum.

What he failed to grasp was, at that stage all those that posted were paid so for him to stoop to a low level of ambiguity (hoping it would ensure he got paid) was a tactic that was simply not necessary. He really should have posted an honest review rather than the semi-promotion of a scam website.


Thank you for your feedback. As you pointed out the manner in which he virtually begged for the money along with the words used in the post, it was clear to see what his intention was.

Sadly I find myself in that situation again where the line between an out-and-out promotion of a scam vs somewhat ambiguous promotion - are not that blurred and applying a tag can be deemed harsh in some quarters. As you said, if the problem is not being kept in check and there is no other alternative then another solution is needed.


I agree with your view entirely about people should not be tagged for giving honest opinions therefore I think you are somewhat misguided because in the OP I stated I went through just the first 2 pages of that thread and there are another 10 or so pages remaining and I stated all those that deserve a tag (not giving honest reviews) will be tagged.

Some of those members you listed have already been tagged by me and are on my ignore list so if I decided to skip past them knowing I have already tagged them - I do not think that is a pressing matter. Having said that if you can provide me a link to show where other members have posted a tag worthy promotion or semi-promotion of the 1xbit scammers in the first 2 pages of that thread (because that is how far I have made it so far), I will tag them. Kindly allow me some time to go through the remaining 10 or so pages, I will look forward to reading your views in this thread after.

Is DT really becoming a weapon? In my opinion DT members have a responsibility to ensure they do their utmost to protect the wider members of this community and I cannot apologise for try to contribute a little amount of my time trying to lessen the number of new victims.


The point of creating this thread was to avoid the other thread being overrun with comments about whether a tag was deemed valid or not. It was mentioned in the firsts two paragraphs of the first post in this thread.