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3981  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 10:24:22 AM
you give bitcoins - I collect them, it is greed?

Doing it with more than one account is greed.

forcing people to lose to you in the casino or Deposit into an account, while reducing their costs to a minimum - that's greed

We don't force anyone to do anything. You have forced us to make some changes that mean only people doing certain things get the full benefits. If you and those like you were not so greedy and only used one account we could be more generous to those who are not greedy like you.
3982  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 09:46:51 AM
What's the formula for calculate rewards or minimum free roll payout?

Is there a way to view "how close to normal payout status"?

I didn't understand anything with my personal stats. Without $50 balance, what must I do for eligible all rewards and uncutted payouts?

Here is all the information we can make public.

I've got a few more details about the reduced awards algorithm I can share with you.


The algorithm for reducing rewards takes a combination of the balance, wager, lottery and jackpot spending to calculate the reward. Jackpot spending has a higher weight (4x) and the lottery has the highest weight (20x).

If you do not want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to not have reduced rewards.

Most users will not need to keep the full balance though because their gambling history is also added up to calculate.

New accounts have full rewards for the first 100 rolls to help them build up a history and then the algorithm is applied to them. So opening a new account might seem like it helps but it won't.

Additionally, the balance needed to have no captcha is $100.




you have to be profitable to them, lose your money, they're greedy.

You missed the most important differentiator for a gambling business. Anyone who bets gives us a CHANCE to be profitable.

Running a profitable business is not greed. Running botnets to try and bleed that business dry at the expense of genuine faucet user is greed.
3983  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 09:06:15 AM
it will affect to all user who don't gambling, not only bot. And almost user is not gamble.

That is an unfortunate side effect of being attacked by bots. We are happy that we have found a way to maintain full payouts to those customers that do gamble.
3984  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 09:03:58 AM
I will continue to work botnet network.I will expand it.

And we will continue to try and protect our genuine users from your greed but unfortunately, your actions harm them as we are forced by you to make these changes.



@Triple_S
I did read it but I trust wetsuits analysis of the situation and numbers much more than yours.
3985  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 08:58:56 AM
@Triple_S

I replied to you in the other thread. No need to cross post.
3986  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 08:36:46 AM
@Triple_S

The important factor you are missing is that there is a cost involved in running a botnet. That's why solosss is so upset that they came here to complain. By reducing the rewards we take away their profit margin. It's unfortunate that genuine users get caught up in it. The only way we can tell what is a bot is that they don't risk becoming unprofitable by gambling, they don't deposit, and they use every means possible to max out what they can get from the faucet.
3987  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 07:44:37 AM
I've just had confirmation that the restrictions on redeeming the higher levels of reward points is because a lot of the bot users were using their accumulated RP to increase their rewards 5x and making it profitable to bot again.

This restriction only applies to accounts that do not meet the minimum wagering/lotto ticket/balance requirement to reach the full base reward.

Again I'm sorry that the actions of a few selfish botnet abusers affects genuine users.
3988  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 07:43:55 AM
I've just had confirmation that the restrictions on redeeming the higher levels of reward points is because a lot of the bot users were using their accumulated RP to increase their rewards 5x and making it profitable to bot again.

This restriction only applies to accounts that do not meet the minimum wagering/lotto ticket/balance requirement to reach the full base reward.

Again I'm sorry that the actions of a few selfish botnet abusers affects genuine users.
3989  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 07:18:59 AM
you can't faucet your casino website and you earn only on the fact that people will lose you on the website. if you do not want to give equal conditions to all - why do you do it?

You will have to write something that is understandable if you expect an answer.
3990  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 07:01:53 AM
to be honest i dont understand why anyone still gambles on freebitco.in multiplier with its super-high 5% house edge. there are lots of other "multiplier"/"dice" games that offer much lower house edge - e.g. 999dice.com and the new multiplier on CoinPot (0% house edge!!)
dont get me wrong, i love freebitco.in as a faucet and all the extras (reward points, 50% referrals etc) just you are always going to lose fast against a 5% house edge Sad

You're not taking into account all the extras we give you when you gamble. The reward points and lottery tickets all have a value that is reflected in that 5% house edge. Then how many other dice sites pay 50% referral commision and pay interest on your balance?
Whether it is appealing to you individually or not it is to many people and if you look on the site stats page at the total wagered and compare to other sites it will confirm that.
3991  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 06:55:12 AM
Grin Grin Grin this will stop only the part of the botnet that pays for the captcha, the real botnet networks will continue to work, will increase only because you have reduced the payment of bitcoins
we'll have to figure something out, but I'm sure it won't stop us either. this shows how you treat your users. Angry

It shows the damage you and other bot users do to our genuine customers. There is a finite amount we can give away for free and every cent taken by bots is a cent we can't give to a real user.

3992  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion: Merit Phase 2 - Drain the Swamp (@theymos) on: April 27, 2018, 06:53:52 AM
Probably good, but there are many ways to circumvent the law, which will use Smerit to swap every 2 months as you suggest, it will become unworthy exchange system.

Try reading the thread before posting, I have answered that many times. That would force them to spend the sMerit they received in the initial distribution regularly and eventually, they will run out. That was part of the plan.
3993  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 06:51:13 AM
everything is clear and without wetsuit, those who do not play reduced the minimum payment, now also removed the ability to activate bonuses 1000% and 500% as well as the activation of the reward point + 100 and + 50

I can't confirm what I don't know but it would make a lot of sense if the best rewards are reserved for players rather than bot abusers.
3994  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 06:14:16 AM
TheQuin, there is new information on points??

As I said, I'll update the threads as soon as I have anything.
3995  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: April 27, 2018, 05:50:20 AM
So what do I do to get merit? And can go up to the next rank that is Member?

This is a forum where Bitcoin and crypto enthusiasts come to meet and discuss relevant issues. Merit is given out to people when someone with sMerit to spend finds a post useful or interesting. You are here to earn from bounties so nobody is going to find your posts useful or interesting.

So the only answer to your question is to forget all about bounties and ICOs and start getting interested in Bitcoin and Crypto.
3996  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 05:20:06 AM
Good news, cheaters have been disappointed Grin
Keep it up freebitco.in ,  Wink

It certainly makes me feel good inside to see a self-confessed bot user so upset.
3997  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 05:17:50 AM
what about points?

I'm not sure yet, a couple of other people have reported the same problem. I've sent the details on to wetsuit and as soon as he gives me an update I'll let everyone know.
3998  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: April 27, 2018, 05:01:09 AM
From Jr member rank to Member rank besides need activity, also need merit as much as 10. Merit is difficult to get, can someone help me up rank Member?

I was going to say that you are the only person who can help you rank up. Then I looked at your post history and came to the conclusion that you are beyond help. Bounty threads and one-liners to bump ICO ANN threads is all you know. The Merit system was put in place to stop you ranking up and it is working.
3999  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 27, 2018, 03:52:32 AM
I gave you merit for following up your previous post with useful info.  Good to hear it works out eventually.   
Thanks .

I would use the site more if the mining feature worked out more profitably.   Perhaps this isnt possible and its a limit of what code is possible within the webpage, I thought it could be higher returns though.

I have tried the browser mining option when it was released as an experimental effort long time back ( just out of curiosity). But since it uses the CPU ( and not the GPU - even if you had one ), it will definitely be not worth the power / time . ( IMHO)
If you are using chrome, Shift + Esc will show you what component in your browser is using up your CPU - and if you are mining using the browser, it will show that its eating up most of your resources.

You do realize that you are almost certainly paying more for electricity than you are earning using a browser miner? There are much, much better ways to make money. Browser mining is just one step away from being faucet tier shit. Why not invest in some decent hardware so you can mine properly, or if you can't afford it, save up your money and pay for a cloud mining account.
Not only on the electricity would you spend but also you wont really able to use up your pc while you are browser mining comsuming computing power would lag the entire pc.
Going back into your suggestion i would rather save up money than on investing on cloud mining site. If you go that path you are still wasting up your money.

You're missing the point of browser mining. There's a slider control that allows you to reduce the % usage so you can mine in the background and still use your PC. If you just measure the extra electricity the mining process uses then with average electricity prices it should be profitable. It only really works for a PC that is already turned on.
4000  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: April 26, 2018, 05:48:22 PM
if interest on betting, i will come another website, not freebit. E.g. Primedice, their win chance is 49.5%, must better compare with 47.5% from freebit

You better hope that halving the rewards keeps the botnets away then.
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