Impossível? Não é, mas tem de se ter criatividade! ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Por exemplo "abandon": ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn0.iconfinder.com%2Fdata%2Ficons%2Freal-estate-57%2F100%2Ffeb-real-estate-go-30-512.png&t=663&c=2nGEaOyuGK2xcQ) Alem disso incluía o numero 1, que é o numero referente a essa lista. Aí que está a ambiguidade. Isso pode ser House, closed... E se vc tiver dúvidas em 5 palavras de 24, dificilmente vai conseguir recuperar a sua grana. Ou então imagina, esta com dúvida em 5 e na verdade tem uma outra que você está adivinha errado. Quem que vai arriscar a sua grana nisso.? Sem receber nenhuma vantagem..
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CBDCs are pretty much just fully digitized dollars with likely far more restrictions. Not sure about the economic impact being good or bad, but it's surely bad for the privacy of the masses.
There is one big economic impact : banks. If you own a cdbc, you will have cut off the intermediary, the bank, and you will own something straight from the federal reserve or central bank. There will be no more need for the banking system to hold fiat . This is a huge economic impact. Personally, I don't believe big democracies like Europeans and USA will let per People own a lot of cbdc, specially due to the banking system lobby (they will be much affected) And no government want a financial crisis. Maybe in countries like China and Russia where rights are more restricted and there is a bigger control from the government over the economy it is possible there cbdc will grow faster.
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Depois da lista BIP 39 em português, achei outra bem interessante. A lista de seed em emoji https://stepansnigirev.github.io/emoji-wallet/Você sabia que isso é uma bitcoin seed? Uma carteira? 🍴👨👧🔮👯🐬🌕📍🎰🚲👑🍤🍘🍡🗾 Seed hash: 010440697e5e7a7aec8e6d10e9b24ed2bfbeaabb918219a93763875929d317d237316888450a4fa 0ab8f73fa5e2d55eaf61f5d4711b712fcd8cb551e5eb0adce
Muito interessante ne. Não foi aprovado pelo github do bitcoin ainda, mas é genial. Menos chance de erros de digitação, mas ao mesmo tempo difícil de armazenar num papel (so se o cara for desenhista) Pessoalmente, não recomendo que ninguém use essa carteira, apenas para conhecimento e diversão.
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. Ainda assim, acho bem improvável que o satoshi chegaria enviando as suas moedas para a Coinbase ou Binance... ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Isso ele não poderia fazer sem KYC. Então totalmente fora de possibilidade... Ele acha que isso não irá acontecer, mas e se acontece-se? Qual acham que seria a reação do mercado? O Bitcoin perderia credibilidade?
Eu acredito que essas moedas nunca serão movidas. Na minha opinião, acredito que ninguém mais possui a chave dessas moedas. Existem algumas moedas que supostamente são do Satoshi (mas não são as primeiras) e um anônimo asssino7 umas mensagens xingando o faketoshi https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/gq8ao1/more_than_100_addresses_with_unmoved_bitcoin/
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I moved to China from Ukraine, no local card, all before leaving I transferred to bitcoin. Now I am sitting without money. I will pay someone who will help me. There 1.4 BTC I can give you a commission of +-5%. https://t.me/lil_netysilFor your security and to other people involved, I suggest that you have open and public discussions here instead of chatting with strangers in your private telegram. There are a lot of scammers in this forum and bitcoin transactions are irreversible.
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3. Se quer se expor ao mercado, por que não ir direto no BTC?
Realmente, se existe muita semelhança entre as ações da Coinbase e o valor do BTC, talvez seja melhor aposta direto no BTC, que ao menos tem total controlo no investimento. Por outro lado, o ETF pode incluir outras empresas, talvez nem ligadas as cripto, o que pode ser interessante, visto que umas suportam as outras. Mas, acho que não há ETF que inclua a Coinbase e outras empresas que não estejam ligadas as cripto. Existem 126 etf com a coinbase O de maior exposição e o arkk https://www.etf.com/stock/COINCrpt First Trust SkyBridge Crypto Industry and Di… 12.80% FDIG Fidelity Crypto Industry and Digital Payment… 11.87% BKCH Global X Blockchain ETF 11.56% IBLK iShares Blockchain and Tech ETF 11.10% BITQ Bitwise Crypto Industry Innovators ETF 9.43%
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You are right about this. But let's be honest, isn't it a huge mistake of the external payment processor of Wintomato to just send TRON to a Bitcoin address without apparently doing a quick check first?
You need to contact their support and explain that. The transaction was never completed, so they probably have the usdt in their wallet. Ask for the blockchain transaction, if they say they sent it.
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As ações já estão mais de 60% abaixo do preço do ipo. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FtChPMBr%2FScreenshot-20220810-142715-Google.jpg&t=663&c=Q7wh7ZLRNvudag) Lembrando que é possível comprar ela aqui no Brasil por meio de BDR, no ibovespa
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me fez pensar na necessidade de um github descentralizado existe?
Existe este: https://radicle.xyz/Mas, acho que é muito "fraquinho". Qualquer das formas, não sei até que ponto segundo ordem judicial, a plataforma não tem de deixar de indexar a informação sobre algo especifico. O git na verdade é só um código e pode rodar até offline na sua maquina. O github não é dono do git. O negócio é que uma infraestrutura colaborativa é necessária, de forma o github e gitlab acabam sendo usados por quase todos. Mas ngm é forçado a usar a versão centralizada, online. Aqui tem um comentário legal https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59509764/is-git-distributed-or-decentralized/59509859#59509859
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Crio que um smart-contract deva ser algo bem mais complicado, não sei o quão viável é iniciar algo do zero, mas se for precisar partir de algo pronto então não tem boas plataformas ou empresas que façam/vendam uma plataforma estável e segura, além de prover atualizações frequentes?
Programar do zero, só compensa em casos muito especiais e projetos muito grandes ou extremamente pequenos. Na maioria dos casos, usa-se código já criado e faz-se as respetivas adaptações para o projeto. Essas alterações até podem ser bem profundas. Não existe isso de programar do zero, ébobagem isso. A humanidade não evoluiu assim. Hoje em dia temos acessos a milhares de bibliotecas, frameworks, etc , e o trabalho do programar é fazer bom uso dessas bibliotecas e não reinventa-las em uma forma piorada. Usar bibliotecas e códigos já testados e consolidados é hoje o único caminho. Tudo tornou-se muito complexo. Ten um famoso quote do Linux ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.quotemaster.org%2Fimages%2Fs_42%2F42dcc13c7b168527e7e13b26c4bf2689.jpg&t=663&c=_3QfpBKOu-8vlg)
acho que os hacks por engenharia social vão continuar acontecendo bastante e por muito tempo mas talvez esses de bridges, protocolos defi, etc... diminuam com o tempo veremos
Esses golpes são os mais populares e exploram pessoas desatentos e de pouco entendimento dos riscos. Difícil proteger as pessoas desses golpes e no final cabe a cada um se educar pra se proteger.
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Nem sei se isso não acaba por ser bom para a Circle... Com os problemas que estava a ter, é menos dinheiro que tem de pagar. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Acho dificil que isso seja bom pra Circle. É uma publicidade ruim. Voce mandaria USDC pra Circle agora? Eles estão apenas fazendo o que foram obrigados pelas autoridades, não estão agindo por motivação propria (até onde eu sei) Eles nao vao ficar com esses USDC para gastar como eles quiserem. Os tokens foram congelados e provavelmente vao ser queimados ou devolvidos pros donos se eles derem mais informações e estiver tudo certo. EDIT: O que motivou essas sanções?
Exatamente o que o TryNinja escreveu ai em cima e está no outro tópico tb. Suspeitas de lavagem de dinheiro, em torno de 7 bi sob suspeitas, pelas autoridades dos EUA.
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Mas esses bloqueios é a coins que saem logo do mixer, ou inclui aquelas que já passaram pelo o mix em algum momento da sua vida?
É tudo ainda muito subjetivo. Mas uma grande parte das moedas ja passou algum dia por casinos ou mixers. De acordo com Antonopoulos, eles olham X transações pra trás https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BILcJ3WtdLQEntao, se voce fizer umas 5 transacoes internas, voce deveria estar "salvo" (teoricamente) Tem forma, simples de saber se as coins que temos na nossa carteira, já passaram por um mix?
Tem que olhar e ver se voce indentifica.Não é dificil identificar uma transacao que veio dum mixer.
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Acho que só eu aqui que continuo sem campanha
Estou tentando encontrar algo que pede no máximo 5 posts da aba gambling, mas está bem difícil, a maioria pede 10 Os 5 posts encaixam melhor no conteúdo que eu posto e eu tenho alguns tópicos lá que considero legais, mas acredito que 10 seja muito
Se eu fosse voce eu daria uma insistida na aba gambling. Realmente tem muito spam em todo lado lá, mas é uma boa oportunidade de voce começar a se aventurar no forum global e ir ficando mais conhecido lá fora. Voce tambem pode aproveitar a oportunidade para treinar o inglês e ir aos poucos se aventurando também em outros abas, além da nossa aba local. A medida que isso for acontecendo é possível que você entre cada vez em campanhas melhores também. Eu acredito ser importante manter a atividade alta e ir frequentando diferentes partes do forum, para aumentar seu conhecimento, ver o que as pessoas andam comentando em outros lugares, conhecer pessoas e por aí vai. Só vantagem.
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I have not heard of this service before, Is she central like Chipmixer? Or does it need collective cooperation (protocol management) like Wasabi/coinJoin?
It is a smartcontract that runs on Eth blockchain. It is the best and most used and best mixed in Eth blockchain. Fully decentralized, as it is just a smartcontract. Theoretically, it cannot be stopped (just the front end app, their website. But it still runs in the blockchain.)
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The sender is bitcoin casino Wintomato, as part of a withdrawal from my account. And they on their turn have an external provider doing the transfers for them. Please don't question Wintomato's trustability since I have a long history with them and they never did anything bad for me and processed numerous deposits and withdrawals already. But those were always with Bitcoin and this one was the first one with USDT. So I find it hard to believe that they really did not send anything out.
But then again, if they send USDT to a Bitcoin address, shouldn't they get a warning that it's an invalid address?
And on the receiving side of the transfer is the online bookmaker Justbet.cx, also no question about their trustability and I also have a long positive history with them. It's a deposit into my account there. I just opened the cashier, selected Tether and copied the address and entered into the Wintomato withdrawal screen.
This is wintomato USDT deposit screen. I entered a random Btc address just for testing https://wintomato.com/en/billing/withdrawThis failed the captcha with the BTC address. So maybe you didn't send anything at all (there is a chance) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBmSTa0I.png&t=663&c=BGf9mGJgK07hsA) They support only TRON and ETH chains (which is disabled now). It is impossible they could have sent USDT in the bitcoin chain to justbet.cx. You most likely sent in TRON chain to justbet (which can't receive it) I took a look at justbet.cx and they don't mention USDT support in their website (btc, ltc, etc and bch) https://www.justbet.co/bitcoin-sportsbookI'm very confused.....some people in this topic say that since nothing is visible on that address, they are 100% certain nothing was ever sent. And now you are totally on the other side of the spectrum, saying funds are lost forever. Meaning that something for sure was sent since otherwise it cannot be lost. Do you disagree with the other posters in here who are saying that since it's an empty address with zero history, nothing was ever sent?
You said the sender Wintomato send something. You said the receiver didn't receive anything. So you have something in an address nobody control. This is why it might be lost. And still I am confused because there are also people here who say Bitcoin addresses can receive USDT payments.
There is nothing to be confused here. Bitcoin address can receive OMNI layer USDT tokens. Bitcoin addresses cannot receive TRC-20 USDT tokens or any other type of USDT token. Only this time it's going wrong, because it's the first time I use USDT. And if funds can be salvaged, they will still be salvaged because both parties (sender and intended receiver) can be trusted completely and will collaborate if I give them instructions. That is not the issue. So you think something can be salvaged? How?
You need to try to discover where did your coins go (if they did go at all). I believe wintomato did not sent anything. You need to contact wintomato support to see if they did send anything at all. Then, if they did send, you need to look for blockchain confirmation. If you see a blcokchain confirmation, you might need to contact justbet support to try to recover the private key of the lost funds. It is very unllikely that third party will try to recover private key of funds sent to wrong addresses, because it is a security risk for them and the fault is on you (who sent coins to the wrong address). this is why it is much easier to recover funds that you sent to a wallet you control the private keys.
This is a copy-paste of justbet.cx terms ( https://www.justbet.co/bitcoin-sportsbook): IMPORTANT!
Every Bitcoin transaction uses a unique address. We strongly recommend copying and pasting Bitcoin addresses (use the copy/paste icon in the Cashier). Do not try typing an address by hand. If you make a mistake with the address, it is possible to send the Bitcoin to the wrong receiver and the funds may be lost.
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Be sure to double-check the address where you are sending or receiving your Bitcoin. If you send to the wrong receiver, there’s usually no way to retrieve the funds, unless the other party agrees to send them back to you.
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So you're 100% sure the sender is at fault here? I simply said to that processor, transfer XXX amount of Tether to this address (the one I mentioned in OP) and you are sure nothing has been sent. So they simply did not follow the instructions.
But then what about Loyce's comment "Failed transactions aren't registered on the Blockchain." Could it be that they did send something but it failed for whatever reason?
Can you give us more details here, please? Who is the sender? Coinbase? Binance? A friend of yours? Someone you met in the internet in a shady website promising free coins? For example, binance has a very clear interface and instructions about USDT withdrawals ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhcGjbV1.png&t=663&c=ZqJ0i9I_Bq32ug) This is binance wallet screenshot with USDT withdrawal options. They have a lot of options to withdrawal USDT, on many different chains: BSC, ETH, TRON, MATIC, AVAC, SOL, TEZOS, and many more i don't even know all of those chains. if you choose the wrong chain and move your coins to some address you don't control, your funds may be lost forever. You must be very careful and give the correct instructions to the sender.
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. So either they have no clue what they are talking about or it is in fact an address that can receive both Bitcoin and USDT? I did not know that was possible but looking at what bitmover said in the post above this, there are addresses that can receive both?
Yes, a bitcoin address can receive usdt. Take a look here and explore omni layer http://omniexplorer.info/But you can't just send usdt to a bitcoin address. Both Sender and received must be using an omni wallet. The problem is that Nowadays not many exchanges and using bitcoin network for tether transactions anymore. In 2021 binance abandoned omni layer https://u.today/binance-abandons-first-ever-tether-platform-omni-networkOn the other hand, tether is making yhe first transactions in the lightning network https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/tether-sent-using-the-lightning-networkWill Tether Migrate To The Bitcoin Blockchain With Advances In The Lightning Network? Marty Bent, Mar 24, 2022
Bitcoin company, Synonym, has successfully used the Lightning Network to send a Tether transaction, paving the way for stablecoins built on Bitcoin.
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What's interesting about Synonym's implementation of Tether on Lightning is that it leverages the Omni Layer protocol, which is where Tether originally launched. As on-chain fees increased in the years after Tether launched on Omni Layer Tether usage migrated to other chains to take advantage of their relatively low fees and has since been playing a game of hot potato. Hopping from one chain to the next.
Is Synonym's implementation of Tether on Lightning something that will push Tether usage back to the bitcoin stack as the Lightning Network currently provides sufficiently low fees on top of the most secure ledger in the world? We shall see. In your Uncle Marty's opinion, it would be cool to see Tether (or general stablecoin usage) migrate back to bitcoin even if he does believe that the USD is failing miserably and stablecoins serve as nothing more than a transitional mechanism that provides a bit of volatility cover as we move from a fiat standard and a bitcoin standard. Só I believe we will see many more bitcoin address receiving tether I the future.
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