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3981  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate trumps wall.. on: November 29, 2018, 04:41:07 PM
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Aren't these totally different things? I mean, one thing is occupying a part of another country and totally different is that you want to keep all people of colour out of your country?

LOL, you got that all wrong.

Hispanic Americans have been in the USA before it was the USA. Think in terms of 500 years.
3982  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nigeria’s presidential Candidate Promises Cryptocurrency Regulation if elected on: November 29, 2018, 02:25:51 AM
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Note: If Nigeria government shows their support for blockchain related projects and cryptocurrency, it will be a huge deal as other African countries will follow in their full steps...

Yes, this is big.
3983  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate trumps wall.. on: November 29, 2018, 02:23:38 AM
Related: why West hates when Russia is protecting it's borders?
Gorby dismantled USSR on promises NATO will not extend. Those promises were broken.
So West is crying four years now about Crimea suddenly lost to NATO bases, and pretends there are no
legitimate borders that need to be protected. Including South border of USA.

Not "West," you see.

Just some jerks with political objectives, like Soros.

Enemies of the US, and some fools that follow them.
3984  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: [It's not real communism] or why socialism can still be an answer on: November 29, 2018, 01:57:35 AM
I didn't ask for your reasoning, I asked for proof. At least a micron of empirical data to support your claims. So far I have seen nothing of this nature presented by you.

So you're asking for emperical data on the success of direct democracy combined with socialism?

I do find this assertion interesting.

Not saying how communism or socialism is great, just saying how for the first time we have the technology to create a system with socialism or communism without automatically falling in the dictatorship.


How would that work?
3985  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Missionary killed by Primitive tribe in India on: November 29, 2018, 01:54:12 AM
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"These savages" have been around probably longer than many modern nations. I bet they are not sympathetic to our way of life either.

Which means something or nothing, and you don't know which, because you can't. The reality is hidden from us.

But you would defend the indefensible. Have fun.

3986  Other / Politics & Society / Re: South Africa, Communsim, and China on: November 29, 2018, 01:45:08 AM

No, it's more like gangsters driving in the brand car they were given, eg, Communism, and praising it. Really they are gangster capitalists.
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Bitcoin made in China Lol Grin

China is not one thing, but many.

The theft of land from the whites by the new Marxist government, I have read that this was stopped by a letter or two from Trump.

China would back a local government which assisted their long term goals of acquiring mineral rights and such. But that doesn't make China complicit in the stealing.
3987  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: November 29, 2018, 01:31:14 AM
.... Climate is a complexe and chaotic thing you can't have a complete knowledge of all inputs and outputs that's impossible and will never be done in our lifetime. What we have is a strong correlation and a logical explanation of CO2 impact. ....


What you have is a weak, not a strong, correlation.



Nah, we have like a billionity data points that back the evidence.

haha. That's really sciency. Truthy, too.

But if the "prediction from the scientists" is a temperature rise of 1.5-4.5 for a doubling of the CO2, then the spread of the variance itself shows the weak correlation.

3988  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Missionary killed by Primitive tribe in India on: November 29, 2018, 01:28:13 AM
Further, suppose a plane, or a boat, had to make an emergency landing there. Suppose the islanders murder them.

Someone somewhere might just decide it was payback time.

I'm not sympathetic with the "missionary," but to use his own words, "an eye for an eye...."

So do you suggest to wipe the population out because of a near-zero probability of some airplane landing on an undeveloped island when there is a proper airport on another island nearby?

I'd say it makes far more sense just to leave them alone.

NO, giving you the benefit of the doubt, misunderstanding instead of twisting meanings.

Such things happen. I've illustrated several ways in which these savages are not "safe." They are not safe from diseases without knowledge of medicine, they are not safe from contagious disease. Killing people that set foot on the island does not solve that.

They are not safe from people who might want payback for their "legitimate savagery."

Next, regarding your obvious exaggeration .... "wipe the population out" ....

I don't care about them one way or the other. That means I don't care if they all live or if they all die. Neither. Pretty simple, right?

The Christian, he found out the hard way that the "noble savage," well, he isn't so noble...
3989  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Missionary killed by Primitive tribe in India on: November 28, 2018, 10:19:54 PM
And proper quarantine procedures were followed?

No, they don't have a clue.

So I'm not sympathetic to their perception of danger.

They don't need quarantine procedures. Outsiders are not allowed to enter and the law protects the island.

Let's say you try enter a secured facility of some sort and you get shot. Who's fault is it for not following "procedures"?

Interesting viewpoint.

No, "the law DOES NOT protect the island."

People do.

If they are ignorant of how to deal with contagious diseases, and unusually sensitive to them, they're fucked.

That's kind of silly to argue whether the law or people are charged with protection of the island.  Laws wouldn't exist without people, so yeah, whatever, semantics...  ....

Sematics? Not quite.

The same people that would argue "the law protects the Island" would argue that "the immigration law can't stand in the way of open borders", it's "okay if Hillary broke all kinds of laws", it's "Not okay if Trump jaywalks," on and on.

It's not semantics to change the rules with every situation.

Further, suppose a plane, or a boat, had to make an emergency landing there. Suppose the islanders murder them.

Someone somewhere might just decide it was payback time.

I'm not sympathetic with the "missionary," but to use his own words, "an eye for an eye...."
3990  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: November 28, 2018, 10:16:14 PM
.... Climate is a complexe and chaotic thing you can't have a complete knowledge of all inputs and outputs that's impossible and will never be done in our lifetime. What we have is a strong correlation and a logical explanation of CO2 impact. ....


What you have is a weak, not a strong, correlation.

3991  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Missionary killed by Primitive tribe in India on: November 28, 2018, 07:49:04 PM
And proper quarantine procedures were followed?

No, they don't have a clue.

So I'm not sympathetic to their perception of danger.

They don't need quarantine procedures. Outsiders are not allowed to enter and the law protects the island.

Let's say you try enter a secured facility of some sort and you get shot. Who's fault is it for not following "procedures"?

Interesting viewpoint.

No, "the law DOES NOT protect the island."

People do.

If they are ignorant of how to deal with contagious diseases, and unusually sensitive to them, they're fucked.
3992  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: November 28, 2018, 06:39:58 PM
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There is virtually no acceptable viewpoint in science except skepticism.
That's perfectly right in theoretical science but there comes a time when you have to apply science to real world and then you have to accept reasonnable reasults. Otherwise you never do anything because nothing is 100% certain in science.

Really.

Skepticism is 100% required when looking at the often-ridiculous, often-insanely expensive and ineffective, often-proposed "solutions" to climate change.

Many of which on examination, are not a solution at all.

Other propose cutting 0.001C for a couple trillion dollars in cost.

Skepticism is the right attitude.

As previously noted, solar storms and asteroid impacts present far deadlier risks than climate change. Please don't just fall in line with what vested money interests told you to be concerned about.
3993  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Missionary killed by Primitive tribe in India on: November 28, 2018, 06:34:51 PM
It actually all revolves around whether that island makes their own laws and whether the people there have the right to murder outsiders coming in. It's that simple.

They don't have to make their own laws, India's law already prohibits outsiders from coming in. And the natives defended their island by killing an intruder. Not very nice given that the intruder was an unarmed dumbass trying to "convert" them but on the other hand he was carrying a potential lethal threat for them.

And proper quarantine procedures were followed?

No, they don't have a clue.

So I'm not sympathetic to their perception of danger.
3994  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: November 28, 2018, 05:46:00 PM
Just a thought:
Avoiding meat and dairy products is the single biggest way to reduce your environmental impact on the planet, according to the scientists behind the most comprehensive analysis to date of the damage farming does to the planet.

The new research shows that without meat and dairy consumption, global farmland use could be reduced by more than 75% – an area equivalent to the US, China, European Union and Australia combined – and still feed the world. Loss of wild areas to agriculture is the leading cause of the current mass extinction of wildlife.

The new analysis shows that while meat and dairy provide just 18% of calories and 37% of protein, it uses the vast majority – 83% – of farmland and produces 60% of agriculture’s greenhouse gas emissions. Other recent research shows 86% of all land mammals are now livestock or humans. The scientists also found that even the very lowest impact meat and dairy products still cause much more environmental harm than the least sustainable vegetable and cereal growing.
I'm glad that you solemnly state "The scientists find..."
"The new research shows..."

But animals are tasty and we like eating them.
3995  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are some people still skeptical about climate change? on: November 28, 2018, 05:27:01 PM

Solar storms and asteroid impacts are the threats we should be concerned about. Both are going to happen, it's just a matter of when.

Climate change is nothing compared to these threats.

Quote from: TECSHARE link=topic=4666163.msg48290891#msg48290891
...That is not science, that is the beginnings of a cult.....
There is virtually no acceptable viewpoint in science except skepticism.
3996  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Missionary killed by Primitive tribe in India on: November 28, 2018, 05:23:17 PM
Beside everything, they have been isolated for so long that going in there now, brings very high risk to wipe the island clean with some relatively common deases like a seasonal flu.

Wipe the island clean?

Sounds interesting. I'm having some trouble getting sympathetic to these savages. Bows and arrows and solving problems by killing people.

Maybe a nice resort could go there?
3997  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NPR's Border Fact Check on: November 28, 2018, 05:18:16 PM

LOL try going down there to that border crossing. Go across and come back and then tell us about it...

How about you try eating a grande? Seems about the same level of advice. Rofl.

Fuck if I'm going to Mexico; it's a dangerous country. Fuck, even Cuba and Turkey are safer than Mexico.

I'd just like to see you on a subject you actually knew something about. Not going to Mexico, too dangerous....but you are going to tell everyone everything about it?

Tal vez una problema aqui?
3998  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NPR's Border Fact Check on: November 28, 2018, 04:15:59 PM
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90,000 average crossers per day; most of them NOT seeking asylum; but you can only process 40-100 individuals per day for seeking asylum? What the actual fuck?

90k security checks average a day, but can only handle an additional 40-100 asylum checks?
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LOL try going down there to that border crossing. Go across and come back and then tell us about it...
3999  Other / Politics & Society / Re: South Africa, Communsim, and China on: November 28, 2018, 04:09:43 PM
...They absolutely do push Communism, they are just more covert about it now days.

If you want to do an economic breakdown of how absolutely Communist China is I would be glad to, but I think you and I both really know they are.

No, it's more like gangsters driving in the brand car they were given, eg, Communism, and praising it. Really they are gangster capitalists.

There may be a few left of the True Believers in communism, but I have not personally met any. ANY.
4000  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Missionary killed by Primitive tribe in India on: November 28, 2018, 04:02:36 PM
Retard breaks the law and is killed even after warnings from government.

Who gives a shit about this brainless fuck?

I think he should win the Darwin award this year.

That's an interesting story.

Christians claim John Allen Chau is a martyr after he was killed in self-defense by isolated tribespeople on a remote island hundreds of miles off the coast of India.

Chau was shot dead with bows and arrows after he went to the remote North Sentinel Island in hopes of converting the isolated Sentinelese people to the Christian faith.

Chau’s attempt to convert the tribespeople was an illegal and immoral act that posed a grave risk to the health and welfare of the Sentinelese people.


The article is very biased and even a bit weird in it's orientation, and obviously anti-Christian, alleging he was engaging in "illegal and immoral acts."

It actually all revolves around whether that island makes their own laws and whether the people there have the right to murder outsiders coming in. It's that simple.
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