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3981  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASICs for other projects on: July 12, 2013, 02:37:04 PM
This isn't mining related…


Correct. Well done.

However, I thought some guys who understood the concept of Application Specific Integrated Circuits might be able to shed some light on my question. And I felt that they may be on this forum.

Naughty boy for even considering that. I stand corrected.

ASICs contain specific mathematical operations or algorithms in a physically, hardcoded way. It's the algorithm you want to perform in circuit form.

Let's take SHA256 for example:

http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/sha256.html

Scroll down and you'll find a JavaScript implementation of this algorithm. You'll see it's fairly simple, if you can call it that. Some logical operations here, some logical operations there, all in all maybe 100 lines of code. So developing an ASIC you'll take this algorithm and try to construct electronic circuits that emulate these logical operations. As you can imagine this has been shown to be quite a challenge to develop properly. At least compared to simply writing the code (or porting it to another programming language).

Now take Photoshop. That's like, a gazillion lines of code. Which would probably be a pain in the ass to construct as an ASIC. And with every Adobe update (and you know how much adobe loves their updates) you'd have to physically replace parts of the circuit.

So ASICs for complex software like Photoshop? Definitely not feasible. ASICs for other logical operations and algorithms? Already in use, eg. from what I recall GPUs usually contain ASICs for often required calculations.

Question answered? Smiley
3982  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Mining Equipment Manufacturers Profit -- New AM blades added on: July 11, 2013, 07:19:06 PM
Unsurprisingly ASICminer 's units are still a total waste of time...

Right now they still have the benefit of being the least unreliable as far as delivery is concerned. I wonder if they'll change to more competitive prices once the market and range of producers as grown.
3983  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: My Batch 2 Avalon was rejected by german customs and returned back to China on: July 11, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
I think the theory that bitcoin miners get targeted specifically is rather far fetched Wink

exotic hardware tends to get stuck in customs, no matter what it is. at least from my experience, however that's probably vastly different from country to country.

but either way, DYI and more localized hardware assembly is definitely going to be the way to go.
3984  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: My Batch 2 Avalon was rejected by german customs and returned back to China on: July 11, 2013, 11:39:18 AM
Already done in my Email to info@avalon-asic.com. Now I'm going to open a support ticket and I will send him a PM here too.

But the main problem here is not the german customs, it's Avalon fault to provide a CE-mark, or to prepare and send it in a way, so it could legally pass EU customs.

Jaja, die deutsche Gründlichkeit! Grin

The Ouya had similar problems with German customs, seems like some eastern manufacturers are not aware of the international legal requirements. Customs make me generally wary of purchasing electronics outside of the EU, it's always a gamble whether it'll take a week or a month :X
3985  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: July 10, 2013, 07:25:20 PM
 Grin hehe
3986  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Q] any experince in overclocking SingleSC or LittleSC yet ? on: July 09, 2013, 08:25:31 AM
anyone ?

Yes the 6 people who got theirs are hard at work on it.

Check back in 2 months when a few more have them

Like, 8 people.
3987  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: July 08, 2013, 12:42:55 PM
FICK JA

Fick ja indeed my friend, fick ja indeed...
3988  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Lower BTC Price: Potential risk for mass speculative refunds on ASIC orders? on: July 06, 2013, 09:34:31 AM
Please, get refunds everyone! The more people jump off the ASIC train, the better the ROI! Grin

(good point though)
3989  Economy / Securities / Re: Rental properties on: July 05, 2013, 01:20:03 PM
Sounds risky on many levels, but still interesting.

So you're plan would be:

1) Sell Shares for BTC
2) Convert BTC to Fiat
3) Buy Property using Fiat
4) Convert rent back from Fiat to BTC and pay divs
5) In case of sale in say 3-5 years time: Get Fiat, convert to BTC buy shares back / pay divs / whatever

Amirite?

So currency conversion would result in better divs if BTC drops / stays flat and lower divs if BTC rises in the given timeframe?
3990  Economy / Securities / Re: Rental properties on: July 05, 2013, 02:20:18 AM
What timeframe are we talking about? As in - when is the shipbuilding contract supposed to go into full production and when do you expect the properties to increase in value? 1 year? 3 years? 10 years? Not taking anything as guaranteed here, just curious about a raw estimate.
3991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: July 02, 2013, 06:58:38 PM
so who are on day 1  Roll Eyes

*everyone* is special!

let's just hope day 1 is actually in Sept / Oct and not who knows when Wink
3992  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 12$+ per GH/s - ESCROW - US/UK ASIC Startup - xCrowd.co.uk on: July 02, 2013, 06:54:15 PM
FYI, the link to your FB Page appears to be broken, at least I simply get redirected to my regular newsfeed.

Other than that, highly skeptical but watching.
3993  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service on: July 02, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
Holy shit that's awesome! Great job! Cheesy
3994  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: More Metabanks 120Gh ASIC from 1 batch! on: July 02, 2013, 05:27:56 PM
difference paid, pm sent!
3995  Economy / Securities / Re: [PicoStocks] 100TH/s bitcoin mine [100th] on: July 02, 2013, 11:02:58 AM
...i wasn't asking for financial advice, i'm just interested in other people's opinions. the bullshit i'll weed out myself.

either way, fruitless discussion, moving on.

Don't take him seriously, he spams all over the forums with this: "This user is currently ignored." ,)

well someone has to keep the trolls well fed Wink
3996  Economy / Securities / Re: [PicoStocks] 100TH/s bitcoin mine [100th] on: July 01, 2013, 10:10:15 PM
...i wasn't asking for financial advice, i'm just interested in other people's opinions. the bullshit i'll weed out myself.

either way, fruitless discussion, moving on.
3997  Economy / Securities / Re: [PicoStocks] 100TH/s bitcoin mine [100th] on: July 01, 2013, 06:27:41 PM
i remember all your ranting against asicminer and how s.dice is much better an investment, so i take your skepticism as a good omen :p

seriously though, given the current state of the bitcoin ecosystem, what other ventures / assets are there outside of mining ventures with varying degrees of risk and scam-probability? most of the non-mining related ventures have little to show so far as well and many will fail or underperform. of course some assets are more attractive than others, but at the current stage of bitcoin the risk-reward relation of mining and other market assets still seem at par to me.
3998  Economy / Securities / Re: [PicoStocks] 100TH/s bitcoin mine [100th] on: July 01, 2013, 10:07:00 AM
Worst case scenarios in Bitcoin world come true all the time. I won't be surprised.

Almost everyone is delaying though, so we're still somewhat on course.

(AM being the single exception as of now, but it comes with a premium price...)
3999  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: More Metabanks 120Gh ASIC from 1 batch! on: July 01, 2013, 10:02:08 AM
it's slowing down Metabanks production though. Here's hoping that they still have resources for our additional batch 1 units.
4000  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: June 27, 2013, 11:00:25 PM
Yeah, its still profitable to run them at a $50 exchange rate. GPU miners will probably shut down though - helping slow the rate of difficulty increasing, and helping out the ASICs a bit.

I disagree on that. I'm certain all currently ordered miner devices would instantly become unprofitable.

I was talking more about ASIC companies themselves. Can they handle a correction; fabricate and sell at a 50% discount and remain profitable?

Avalon has already made a fortune.

AM also already made their fair share and their recent cut in pricing (50% for USB Miners) shows that once R&D has paid off there's a rather wide margin.

BFL... well, lets not talk about BFL.

Metabank's Bitfury Miners are tacked to fiat.

Same for KncMiner.

Did I miss one?
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