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39841  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Jan 12th to Approx Jan 27th diff thread (3.5%) on: January 13, 2015, 07:48:50 PM
228 per coin.... ouch.   This hurts all miners.

My guess is that at $280 we would see a 0% change. every $10 more or less than that will probably be a 1% difference.

right now i think -6% is pretty damn likely. Ive turned off the S2 and the BTCGarden for now, but all my SP-tech gear is still profitable and raking in btc.

if you switched to sp20's or s-5's you are good to go.


if you are at 600 watts/ 1200 gh     10 cents a kwatt   1 sp20   with the price at 228 usd you earn 1.63 a day over the power price.

if you are at 800 watts 1000 gh       10 cents a kwatt 2 s-3's    "      "      "     "    "    "     you earn 64 cents a day over the power price.


these are good numbers  for those that have switched out.

At this price I will have to think my miners before summer if it continues to drop. 

With very low price of BTC it will be interesting to see what miner prices do.

Well do we do 2 or 3 drops of diff ?  If we don't hmmm .
39842  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Jan 12th to Approx Jan 27th diff thread (3.5%) on: January 13, 2015, 06:44:36 PM
228 per coin.... ouch.   This hurts all miners.

My guess is that at $280 we would see a 0% change. every $10 more or less than that will probably be a 1% difference.

right now i think -6% is pretty damn likely. Ive turned off the S2 and the BTCGarden for now, but all my SP-tech gear is still profitable and raking in btc.

if you switched to sp20's or s-5's you are good to go.


if you are at 600 watts/ 1200 gh     10 cents a kwatt   1 sp20   with the price at 228 usd you earn 1.63 a day over the power price.

if you are at 800 watts 1000 gh       10 cents a kwatt 2 s-3's    "      "      "     "    "    "     you earn 64 cents a day over the power price.


these are good numbers  for those that have switched out.
39843  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 0.5% fee anonymous solo bitcoin mining! 22 blocks solved! on: January 12, 2015, 05:47:23 PM
Thanks all.

3 blocks in 4 days Smiley

I think at the highest my Hash Rate when they were found was 500Th (can anyone confirm?)

So it was found without the 2ph Smiley

stop mining and party dude

75 coins  sweet!
39844  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Dec 29 to Approx Jan 12th diff thread (4%) to (7%) on: January 12, 2015, 05:34:52 PM
8.20% - not too shabby, Im really happy that it was <10%. I think we will see a lot of hardware turn off at this new difficulty, and next jump could be around -2% if price doesnt move upwards drastically and soon
 8.2 is okay

new estimates:
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

Bitcoin Difficulty:   43,971,662,056
Estimated Next Difficulty:   45,965,768,087 (+4.53%) ----- note always high if the last jump was a plus
Adjust time:   After 2016 Blocks, About 14.6 days
Hashrate(?):   308,829,479 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 10.4 minutes
3 blocks: 31.2 minutes
6 blocks: 1.0 hours
Updated:   12:30 (4.3 minutes ago)


http://www.bitcoincharts.com/


Blocks   338688
Total BTC   13.717M
 
Difficulty   43971662056
Estimated   43931416923 in 2016 blks  this is (-0.09%)
 
Network total   327134.300 Thash/s
Blocks/hour   6.75 / 534 s



(-0.09%)   to   (+4.53%)


43931416923  to 45,965,768,087


price is 266 usd   



39845  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [300 TH] mmpool.org - 1.5% fee split DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mining/tor on: January 12, 2015, 03:54:32 PM
How much do you guys pay for rental services?

i use west hash or nice hash prices are running from .0118 to .0135 for a 1th

these are decent. 0.0118 is better then you do at home since at home you pay for power.


west hash prices

https://www.westhash.com/?p=allorders

nicehash prices

https://www.nicehash.com/?p=allorders&a=1
39846  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: WIN 1.7TH/s SP20! [3500 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: January 12, 2015, 03:39:38 PM
I only run a single S3.  That's 480GH on a good day.  It's more than the dozen other ASICs I have put together (which are in a box, they're pointlessly slow now and a pain to keep running as they're all stupidly fussy Avalon-based things).

I think it's a but naff setting a low limit so high, it's precluding those of us who are supporting this pool with our little home miners.  I mean, it's very, very unlikely that someone like me with 480GH would actually find a block, but there's no hope of winning if we're excluded.

But, anyway, me and the other 12 named users at less than 800GH will probably keep on mining despite this.


yeah I can see they don't want people tossing tons of little usb sticks at them.  but the list from 400 to 800 is very small 8 people

and from  160 to 400 it is 7 people

so 160 to 800 is  a total of 15 people. 

so it would be an s-1  miner and an s-3 miner that loses the chance  here.
39847  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: WIN 1.7TH/s SP20! [3500 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: January 12, 2015, 03:32:43 PM
I'm hovering at 2TH. I doubt I will find the block but it's fun to hope nonetheless Smiley
  yeah you never know.
39848  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: WIN 1.7TH/s SP20! [3500 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: January 12, 2015, 03:23:56 PM
well he could have done 400gh to 20th


logic is   1 s-3 qualifies   and no home miner has more then 20th in house
with a single mining account or mining address with between 800GHs and 50THs
I don't think your logic is right. The winner must have before 50THs.


What I meant is he set the minimum at 800gh and    50th for the max.


I think the minimum needs to be 400gh  and after looking at the miners at his pool the max is fine at 50th.

I feel a guy with 1 s-3 mining at his pool should get a chance to win the prize.

But it is his pool and his prize to give.


Bxxxxxx --------------------   790.03GHs
dxxxxx   -------------------   586.13GHs
oxxxxx  -------------------   501.51GHs
bxxx ----------------------   472.38GHs
1xxxxxx -----------------   453.89GHs
dxxxx --------------------   438.65GHs
Hxxxx -------------------   437.22GHs
hxxxxxx-----------------   425.48GHs


these are the people over 400 and less then 800     they do not get a chance.
pushing these 8 out seems like why do it to them?
____________________________________________________________________
____________________________________________________________________
lxxxxx -----------   2,336.32THs
bxxxxx ----------   769.75THs
axxxxx ----------   279.15THs

these are over 50th  everyone else is under. push these 3 out seems fair enough
______________________________________________________________________


My sp20 is now up to 985gh and I could win with that.

and it is Kano's contest not mine.  I am happy for a chance to get some free gear.
39849  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: WIN 1.7TH/s SP20! [3500 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: January 12, 2015, 03:14:19 PM
nice contest and I would not mind getting 1 more sp20

So I pointed 1 sp20 here.


in reviewing the list of miners at the pool I can see the top end at 50th making sense.
39850  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: WIN 1.7TH/s SP20! [3500 TH] CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: January 12, 2015, 03:07:39 PM
well he could have done 400gh to 20th


logic is   1 s-3 qualifies   and no home miner has more then 20th in house
39851  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), Jan 12th Shipping $0.28/GH & 0.51W/GH on: January 12, 2015, 03:01:23 PM
Well I got the Delta Fans up and running - special thanks to Tom and Dogie and everyone for their help!

Only oddity is that the fan is not communicating with the miner dashboard - it just shows 0 speed.

My temps look ok '55-59'  And from what it seems the fan is just going full speed.

I'm clocked at 387.5 and getting 1260ghash.

I clocked it up to 400 and ran it for a few hours with no issues; but decided better safe than sorry.  425 Crashed a Blade and had to reboot.

Any thoughts on why I'm not getting fan speeds?  I tried reversing the two wires - but then the fan didnt work at all.

Thanks again!

Strato

P.S.  The Delta Fans are about 1/2 the noise level - so much better!  Kind of sounds like a small space heater on high-- as opposed to a small shop vac. Wink





Still waiting for my s-5 to come as I sold the demo to a friend.   I have the same fans.  I know the 2 end wires are for power.  I have not tried the 2 center wires will do so on weds if the gear shows up.  When I set the end wires and do not attach the center I run at full speed.  I know 2 of these fans at full speed is 5 db lower then the stock screamer.  and the pitch is better.. so 2 fans are only 16 bucks.

 Not only that I believe two of these will cool better then 1 stock fan.  Thus running at 400 should be very easy to do.
39852  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Unofficial Spondoolies SP20 thread on: January 12, 2015, 02:02:14 PM
okay thanx alot

could you tell me please which one would be better from http://www.future-x.at
so i can exchange them?

best regrads



----------------

update:

what i tried now works stable ... with your information about voltage and the psu :

0,67 v for all 4

max 0,67

wait wait wait .... 288 watts ??
regrads

no keep the volt settings

0,670 for the 4

 0,675 for max       


do the 4 watts at
 180
180
180
 180

try that for an hour or 2
39853  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Unofficial Spondoolies SP20 thread on: January 12, 2015, 01:53:16 PM
0,69 for all 4 psu settings

0,79 for maximum

ps how can i attach a picture?

best regards


try .65  for the 4

try .655 for max



what is happening is the most your psu can supply is 180-200 per cable.

you set at 170 watts sounds good.

buy the volts are too high.  the sp20 goes to the volt settings first then looks at watts second.

so you volts are set too high for those psu's


but wait why does 150 watts work?   I believe  setting of 120 watts 150 watts 180 watts  have a volt override  better then setting like 170 or 165.

I think if you do
.65
.65
.65
.65
 
max .655

with 150 watts you would be fine
then keep volts the same and bump watts to 160
then keep volts the same and bump watts to 170
39854  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Unofficial Spondoolies SP20 thread on: January 12, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
well you have solved the problem set at 150 watts. the psu's are most likely garbage psu's.

please show all us  volt settings. while I research the psu.

I did some research

 http://skinflint.co.uk/eu/inter-tech-combat-power-cp-modular-750w-atx-2-2-88882084-a693333.html

multi rail psu  not 750 watts but 650 watts

each rail rates to 20 amps

so at best you could use  2 rails from each psu.

which in theory should do about 180 watts each with out over load.
they are not doing that but everything I find about these psu's = low quality
also you may be picking 1 rail not two since I can not tell how to pick pcie connections so that they are on different rails

Hy guys can anyone help me about my new sp20

i´m using 2x Inter-Tech Combat Power, aktive PFC, 750 Watt  (    http://www.future-x.at/inter-tech-combat-power-aktive-pfc-750-watt-p-73253/    )

what i´m getting is a shutdown after slow start

as long as i have the settings on 150 w everything works great

when i put it to 170w or more the shit breaks and first the psu and few seconds later the sp20 shuts down.

best regards


//

12/01 11:23:04:---- RUNNING SLOWSTART -----
12/01 11:23:04:Started!
spond-manager stop
Stopping MG
12/01 11:23:13:Signal
spond-manager start
12/01 11:36:27:---- RUNNING SLOWSTART -----
12/01 11:36:27:Started!
Stopping MG
12/01 11:42:27:Signal
12/01 11:42:27:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [2]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D=ff 79=0 80=1
12/01 11:42:27:dc2dc i2c error ASIC:2
12/01 11:42:27:restart_asics_full (Dc2Dc i2c error)
12/01 11:42:27:Testing LOOPs (verbose=0)
12/01 11:42:27:Testing DC2DC
12/01 11:42:27:Testing LOOPs done = ret=0
12/01 11:42:28:Restart ASICS done :)0
spond-manager start
12/01 11:42:34:---- RUNNING SLOWSTART -----
12/01 11:42:34:Started!
12/01 11:42:36:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [1]: 7B=0xa0, 7A= 0, 78=11, 7D= 0 79=4011 80=1
12/01 11:45:29:Testing LOOPs (verbose=1)
12/01 11:45:29:Testing DC2DC
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING
  • : 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=1
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING
  • : 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=1
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING
  • : 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=3
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING
  • : 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=3
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [1]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=1
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [1]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=1
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [1]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=3
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [1]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=3
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [2]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=1
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [2]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=1
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [2]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=3
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [2]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=3
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [3]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=1
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [3]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=1
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [3]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=3
12/01 11:45:29:DC2DC ASIC WARNING [3]: 7B=0x 0, 7A= 0, 78= 0, 7D= 0 79=0 80=3
12/01 11:45:29:dc2dc i2c error ASIC:4
12/01 11:45:29:dc2dc i2c error ASIC:5
12/01 11:45:29:dc2dc i2c error ASIC:6
12/01 11:45:29:dc2dc i2c error ASIC:7
12/01 11:45:29:ERROR: Loop failed 2 (1) - look for bad ASICs there!
12/01 11:45:29:ERROR: Loop failed 3 (1) - look for bad ASICs there!
12/01 11:45:29:Testing LOOPs done = ret=6
12/01 11:45:29:Data Timeout on read fffe:70 (0), (problem:6)
12/01 11:45:29:restart_asics_full (read timeout on problem or AC2DC fail)
12/01 11:45:29:Testing LOOPs (verbose=0)
12/01 11:45:29:Testing DC2DC
12/01 11:45:29:dc2dc i2c error ASIC:4
12/01 11:45:29:dc2dc i2c error ASIC:5
12/01 11:45:29:dc2dc i2c error ASIC:6
12/01 11:45:29:dc2dc i2c error ASIC:7
12/01 11:45:29:ERROR: Loop failed 2 (2) - look for bad ASICs there!
12/01 11:45:29:ERROR: Loop failed 3 (2) - look for bad ASICs there!
12/01 11:45:29:Testing LOOPs done = ret=6
12/01 11:45:29:Loop missing in discovery 2 (code 5)
12/01 11:45:29:Loop missing in discovery 3 (code 5)
12/01 11:45:29:Not all ASICs recover
Minergate died and restarted
12/01 11:45:42:---- RUNNING SLOWSTART -----
Cgminer died and restarted
12/01 11:45:43:Started!
12/01 11:45:44:Loop missing in discovery 2 (code 1)
12/01 11:45:44:Loop missing in discovery 3 (code 1)
Cgminer died and restarted
Stopping MG
12/01 11:46:04:Signal
spond-manager start
12/01 11:46:11:---- RUNNING SLOWSTART -----
12/01 11:46:11:Started!
12/01 11:46:12:Loop missing in discovery 2 (code 1)
12/01 11:46:12:Loop missing in discovery 3 (code 1)
39855  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Dec 29 to Approx Jan 12th diff thread (4%) to (7%) on: January 12, 2015, 01:22:30 PM
Well bitwisdom is now going up not down in it's estimate.

Bitcoin Difficulty:    40,640,955,017
Estimated Next Difficulty:    43,746,172,612 (+7.64%)
Adjust time:    After 67 Blocks, About 10.8 hours

Safe to say this will be a 7 percent unless it gets a lot of hash power and goes to 8.

A small drop since you posted  Still we were just a tiny bit over 14% at one time so the 7 and change is a lot better.

Bitcoin Difficulty:   40,640,955,017
Estimated Next Difficulty:   43,717,800,414 (+7.57%)
Adjust time:   After 36 Blocks, About 5.8 hours
Hashrate(?):   297,674,047 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):   
1 block: 9.7 minutes
3 blocks: 29.1 minutes
6 blocks: 58.3 minutes
Updated:   8:15 (5.7 minutes ago)
39856  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Dec 29 to Approx Jan 12th diff thread (4%) to (7%) on: January 12, 2015, 03:14:56 AM
I hope we get in 6 percent but with less then a day left looking like low 7's

Bitcoin Difficulty:    40,640,955,017
Estimated Next Difficulty:    43,575,522,670 (+7.22%)
Adjust time:    After 100 Blocks, About 16.1 hours

So was a little bit of a weird week with such a huge variance but looks like it will end up not great but decent considering.

yeah 7 to 8 is far better then 14.

Next  2 jumps are important. be nice to see 3's or less.
39857  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), Jan 12th Shipping $0.28/GH & 0.51W/GH on: January 12, 2015, 01:27:03 AM
Ok I am lost... anyone have any ideas?

I ordered 30 of these... but they have 4 black wires. The connector has no markings... I have no data sheet. I have no clue which goes to the S5 Red White Black Blue.  Huh

http://www.overclock.net/t/922274/delta-fanatics-club/190#post_12978470

Any thoughts?

Strato
I see that the pinout information has been provided already so I can tell you that I used a scribe (pin will work too) to push in the locking tab to remove the pin the lifted it a little to lock in again. The locking tab is accessed in the rectangular opening of the connector. If you are uneasy about the change you can always try it out first to a power supply before connecting it to your miner. You will be very happy with these fans once you install them.
How does it compare to using an S3 fan on the S5?  Better or lesser cooling?  Louder or quieter operation?  Or perhaps, much the same?
I turned on the S5 just to hear the fan and already had these pulled out of storage knowing I would be putting the on the S5 from the reviews I read. Strato bought a bunch of these to replace the stock S5 fans which is where my comment was directed at. I could not say if these would work better or worse than the S3 fans, I did not have the opportunity to try them as I sold my S3s. If you have S3 fans to use I would try them, I think there have been others who may be using them as I see inquires about that fans spec. I can say that my ambient is relatively low, never above 27C, while the blades have never been above 58C and the fans are about 60db max. I think it would be interesting to know how the S3 fans work though. Without taking a db measurement of the S3, my S5 sounds about the same as my S3 in about the same ambient temp.

that is your modded s5 correct?


 as no way does the stock s5 sound like the s-3.
39858  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Home Mining Set Up on: January 12, 2015, 12:15:53 AM
Need to know what you suggest for a home mining set up.

I got $8000 to invest.


Cheers! Smiley

once again

what does your power  cost ?  10 cents a kwatt 15 cents a kwatt 20 cents a kwatt


is it winter where you are right now?

are you in Europe and subject to VAT?

do you have a few quality psu's in your home?

If it is winter
If you are 10 cents a kwatt
If you are not subject to  vat
If you have some good psu's

Buy sp20's from spondoolies-tech
Buy s-5's from bitmaintech

read the reviews on them.

my reviews are here .. I prefer the sp20's

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=872014.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=907219.0

ask me questions.

I will give some ideas to you.
39859  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), 590W, Jan 12th Shipping [Sales Open] on: January 11, 2015, 09:10:52 PM
The test unit also seems to cut out at 9.45V @ 200MHz even if I start at a higher voltage, and 9.75V @ 250MHz.

If anyone else has had any luck starting these at 10V or under I'd be interested in hearing it.

Interesting. How did you decide to use those frequency numbers? I would imagine that at a lower voltage it may be necessary to reduce the frequency at a lower rate.

I just made a matrix with frequency in 12.5Mhz steps and voltage in 0.5v steps, and measured voltage, current and hash rate.

can you dial down volts as the gear is running?

if you can try start at  freq 150 using  10.5 volts and dial down to 9.75 then 9.5 then 9.25 then 9  
Mine didn't get down to 9v even at 100

 so 9.45 volts was the best?  
 and it could do freq 200?

I am getting another one in a few days.  but my psu is meh for efficiency.  80% at best

 I can drop this one to  10 volts put out 300 watts which means I get to test 1 rail at a time.
39860  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Dec 29 to Approx Jan 12th diff thread (4%) to (7%) on: January 11, 2015, 09:03:01 PM
@ davejh

Need to study the math you used, but if correct margin is very tight for a big miner.

A small guy may say fuck it I will list my 10 s-3's on ebay cheap get 1000 usd back and buy a pair of sp20's.


I agree electricity price is one of the biggest factors on many thins including upgrades.  With my around 9 cent I can't bring myself to sell my S3's yet.  I keep miners longer then a lot probley do.  I just finally sold my dragon.  And the person who bought it got a good machine that just needed cheaper electric costs.

I really don't want to change out gear to much during winter.  Once summer comes and i need to do more cooling is when I personally will have decisions on what I want to do. 

  yeah you are on the fence at the 9 cent a kwatt with the s-3 .
 if we go 60 days and only move to 50 diff they don't need to be sold today.

fo me my cost in the winter is 13 cents 10 cents once you add in the "free"  they give.  I had to sell and get sp20's.


I always have to sell quicker then most miners due to 16 cent summer rates and 13-10 cent winter rates.


I do have a pair of s-3's mining at 3 cents and they are staying.
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