Anyone getting a error like this on Windows 10:


Seems I'm stuck on that miner does not make it past this error.

Can someone share a working 470 configuration?  It would be much appreciated.

Others have tried to be competitive with Bitmain before and it just is hard to do.   SP did that with SP20 and they claimed to be losing money on them, and we all know they now are out of the game.   I will be really suprised if they can price on same level of Bitmain, but would love to be wrong and surprised on it.

You might go into more details on this part.  A bad flash can mean issues such as not mining or being able to access miner.   I believe on firmware update they reboot on their own.  Did you let it update and reboot on it's own?   You mention you rebooted it I'm hoping you did not try this or other thing's during firmware update.

A good rule on firmware for most part if it's working leave it alone.  Did you ever have miner working? If so what was last change before it quit?

And even though OP said he did not want something pricey on PSU's.  They tend to hold value decent if a good quality.  So you can use for multiple generations of miner's or sell them off eventually.   It is nice to have some good quality PSU's that have already ROI'ed even though upfront cost is higher. 

I have had some PSU's that have been with me for year's.  They are something I never recommend to go cheap on.  Also on Asic gear server PSU's have kinda taken over.     My ATX's have went into ETH gear at this point.

Also he might want to define " a bunch".  As there will be a huge difference if you consider say 5 a bunch or if were talking 50, 100, etc.   Just so broad leaves a lot open and guess work.

Also if you look at picture thread I know there are some pictures in there of vertical setup. Although not as much as just sitting on a shelf.

Not sure if anyone know's who this is, or has dealt with them.  But a ebay user has stolen my S5+ picture on red for his auction.  User is litkore: http://www.ebay.com/usr/litkore?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

If you are this user please ask before using pictures.  Guessing member is on forum's but slim chance he actually see's it.   But if this is you please do not steal pictures.

Best thing I have ever seen was R1's using crazy guy's custom firmware.  With them it had a auto restart if it zombied out which was amazing as depending on how many U3's your running it can be a pain and make mining not a whole lot of fun.  I would get his firmware and find a R1 is my advice.

I think it might be hard to get university to support you mining to a extent you quit "my not-too-bad job for this".   Also keep in mind of space, coolling, etc.   I just can't imagine a university setting you up to run a sizable farm without it being linked to teaching, or a project for something.   And highly doubt they run it forever.. so again quitting that job I think is overkill.

And also China depends where but some are super cheap electricity.  Just make sure on quality and uptime depending on where it is.  But this is whole different topic of looking for cheap electricity vs a university paying for it.

Nice job on a list it does add up on other part's besides GPU's.   The nice thing is chances are you can use them over multiple generations of GPU's.  I know I sold all my GPU's long long ago, and bought back in for ETH.   I had a lot of good part's but at this point I need to buy most of parts for each additional machine, I really like going with 6 and maxing it out at this point. 

One part they really have made so much better is riser's.  The old riser's were not horrible but man do I have to admit how much I like the USB ones today.

I think this is likely the source if he had it so long.  As I don't know if we really know what they did with the DB at this point.  I remember them logging into inactive accounts like Mt. Gox and such trolling.

At the time I was curious how much info they got and mentioned something about them being a scypt kiddie or something in META and asked to impress me and give my IP.  They were able to do it at the time....  So I don't know what all data got out but know my IP at the time was part of it.  I hope no new hacks like that one have happened.

True but assuming you are getting a nice PSU to power up say 6 470's, if you go with nice ones such as EVGA 1300's or other close to it that add's up and will take a bite out of budget.   Then a motherboard that does 5 or 6 GPU's again add's up.   The cpu/ram might be able to get cheap but those and riser's still can add up on a build.

So I agree some part's are cheap compared to say an asic cost.  But overall they do add up and cost money which add more money you need to ROI.  My main point was GPU's are not only cost.

I would suggest he gets someone who can help before investing as the question's were all over the board.  I would advise him to start out small and also start with his own money.  It scares me he already has a "potential investor friend" with these questions above.  If you go into this wrong it's going to strain that friendship.

So much is related to electricity price anymore you would really have to start there.   But I don't think the container solutions out there are going to be something for serious investment.  Most of them have just been so pricey it makes more sense to do a data center.  But again at this point were talking about huge investment something you really need to do a lot more research before asking friend to finance.

You would be mining a altcoin with GPU's.   Keep in mind if budget is 10k you can't spend all on cards assuming you buying all gear, and no gear sitting around.  Good PSU's, motherboard, CPU, Memory, HD, etc are going to take some of that budget.   But you really need to check out altcoin forum, and also if you are going to flash card's etc. 

And don't forget about heat and electricity needed. Do you have electrical set-up?  As if not setup with electrical, cooling, shelves, etc can add up on startup.   

Also sound/area/cooling also matters aswell.  A lot of these "free electricity" places are apartment's (not all but a lot) and there is limited space so you need to keep in mind mining makes heat and some miners/psu's are loud.  So there is a lot to factor in besides just electricity.

I would advise starting with 1 miner see how it goes and then moving up.   Some jump in with to many nothing stinks more then dealing with cooling problems, or not having enough electricity. 

ASIC hardware anymore is pretty much set and forget.  All the hardwork has been done as far as hardware and you install and just input settings.  With altcoins I will say it takes more to build a good system, and functional system.  I have built a good amount in my day's it just takes more time.

But there is really only 1 way to mine bitcoin's.  The "best" way is going the be the lowest electricity rate you can get.  You will find doing some calculators electricity makes or breaks BTC issues.  Altcoins you can have a tad bit higher electricity and still profit and in part to GPU keeping value as they can be used by gamers.  But "software" mining of BTC on standard equipment is over now all asic controlled.

I don't see this happening farming can be very expensive in some places, and cost more then you bring in.  But in a lot of these cases the area needs the food/crop they are planting so the goverment pay's the farmer these subsidies.    Heck I know some land that is paid to not do anything to give wild animals area, as the animals need land and farmers would be farming it.

Chances of government paying for someone to mine bitcoin... very very small. I don't see it happening personally but it's a much different thing then farming.

If you don't mind me asking what do you pay for electricity?   Just making sure not a locked in rate (flat rate) very rare but some apartment's and such do have them.

I can say personally I live on a farm (like field type).  And have not had a issue as they chalk it up to farming most likely in my case.  Only thing I have noticed is when I got my mining are wired and went up to 12k-15k watt's in mining during points they sent someone out to check meter just to check it was working properly.  They were happy to charge me though after checking it worked fine and not error.

Only thing I ever got was a survey for high usage user's.  Asked to fill out for like 5 dollars off next bill I did not anwser it and there was no bad effect it was optional.  Only problem I ever had was a electrician when I wanted my mining area.  As soon as he saw my miner's the estimate went up about 1k over what I expected... so turned him down. 

Do you mean S3 on highlighted?  Are you just trying to compare PSU needed for S3 vs S3+?   If I am understand right you will see suggested is very close:

S3: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140630025130637RV8OhOwt06BC - 340 at wall
S3+: https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140813125800214NBU85kWt0672 355 at wall

So if I understand correct and those are two being compared most PSU's would work for either.  At the time then most still ran on ATX psu's but anymore server psu's have kinda taken over.

Your post above makes it sound different.  If it is your company it would not really matter if noticed.... as you would have proper premission and no reason to hide


And it could be just wrong words you used but it sounds like trying to hide, which for a owner does not make sense.  This could be a moot point as at this time you can use USB stick miners for fun, but you are not going to get a profit.  They are fun to play with but it is the bigger miner's that stand a chance at ROI, all depends on electricity.

So full size unit is what I would go for assuming you have proper permission.  Some are quieter then others we really need to know electricity price to know what is viable option for you.