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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 07, 2017, 04:23:30 PM


Great news to share!

The pre-sale is over and the Bitcoin Growth Bot is set to launch!

Visit the site for the countdown, https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io

#RealBot #Nucleus




Wow, this was fast! Amazing work!
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 05, 2017, 04:37:58 PM


"bitcoingrowthbot.io receives about 4,305 unique visitors per day"


This is not bad considering its preico stage


Ii there a plan to rename the site to Nucleuscoin.io or something similar to avoid confusion, having 2 names weakens the brand. You can still call the bot bitcoin growth bot but now this is all about Nucleus coin.




Great idea. Excellent point. Are there any other idea besides Nucleuscoin.io?




Nucleuscoin.io would fit in with the other platforms naming conventions recently which is good and bad.  Bad because its not original and it may induce the idea that its just another same old type of lending platform, but on the other hand its good because its a familiar naming convention that lots of people will know.

Could always do something like Nucleusnet.io, Nucleushub.io  Undecided ...

I like coin or token better than those two options


nucleustoken.io vs nucleuscoin.io vs nucleustoken.co vs nucleuscoin.co

Coin vs Token
.io vs .co


Is Nucleus going to be a coin (have its own blockchain) or is it going to maintain its status as a token? Function on wave's blockchain? I guess the answer to this question will tell us its status Smiley I like .io better.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 04, 2017, 03:59:26 PM
I want to thank Jordan for the great work so far.

I have received all my reserved tokens and also my referral bonus tokens.

I do understand it is a lot of work to go through all the emails and transaction ID's so do know we appreciate all the effort.

Looking forward for this part of the project to be done so we can really start having fun!



Same here! It is necessary for the project but I am ready to move forward to building the platform now!

Once the pre-sale is over the bot will be launched ahead of schedule. And then the back end completed.

With a real transparent trading bot and working back end the hype around Bitcoin Growth Bot and Nucleus is going to be massive!

We may have to cancel the ICO if Nucleus starts mooning to prevent having a ceiling of $3.60 on the price.

Enough funds have been raised already that this project will thrive.

Only 71,133 Nucleus tokens left in the 2nd round!
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io


Ha this is great news! Specially the part about preventing the ceiling of $3.60 on the price. Make it rain Nucleus trading bot:)
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Swarm Fund 2.0 - Cooperative Ownership Platform for Real Assets on: December 04, 2017, 01:05:30 PM
i like the way how you presented your project here Smiley but on the other hand do not you worry that many large investors may not perceive this pitch as a serious job?
I'm sure large investors are not coming here for their pitch. That is why Swarm has ambassadors and two top Financial gurus on their core team:)
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Swarm Fund 2.0 - Cooperative Ownership Platform for Real Assets on: December 04, 2017, 11:19:24 AM
Swarm ICO is added to ICO Transparency Monitor. You can check the stats: https://icomonitor.io/#/0x96a0599930a67f72c713e6566687960882c5f7f9

Nice, thanks a lot for this Vanilizer.
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 04, 2017, 10:55:49 AM
I want to thank Jordan for the great work so far.

I have received all my reserved tokens and also my referral bonus tokens.

I do understand it is a lot of work to go through all the emails and transaction ID's so do know we appreciate all the effort.

Looking forward for this part of the project to be done so we can really start having fun!

47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: December 04, 2017, 10:50:01 AM
So...
I was among the first ones to apply for the limited offer, a 200 NCL + bonus. The 25th of Nov
I sent BTC to the deposit address, E-mailed them the details, Tx id & Waves wallet address as required
Looks like people already received their NCL, while I didn't receive the tokens nor the BTC refund! Without mentioning the referrals...
Please I don't need to hear all the "you got scammed...blablabla" I'm aware of the risksThe reason I'm posting this:
1. For other people to see; if this is NOT just a mistake or delay I consider this a red flag for what's coming next "and I admit I gambled and lost"
2. If they're still processing the payments & I have just to wait a little bit more, I want the dev to respond to this message here, and clarify the situation
Literally hundreds upon hundreds of payments were processed yesterday. This morning there is another inbox full and will take another 9 hours to clear but yesterday everyone who had sent in their info had been processed by the time I went to sleep-
Email your info to Token Sale <tokensale@bitcoingrowthbot.io> and it will be processed right away. If you already have sent your info it is possible it got buried. Please resend it and I will take care of it for you. I appreciate it.


Problem solved within minutes after ID verification,
For some reason my secondary email provider never diverted emails from Bitcoingrowthbot to my main email! I never encountered such a thing before!

Total tokens received: The package I paid for + signup bonus + referral bonus
Hope that I've done my job now clearing up the confusion I created previously

Thank you afrazium Smiley

So...
I was among the first ones to apply for the limited offer, a 200 NCL + bonus. The 25th of Nov
I sent BTC to the deposit address, E-mailed them the details, Tx id & Waves wallet address as required
Looks like people already received their NCL, while I didn't receive the tokens nor the BTC refund! Without mentioning the referrals...

Please I don't need to hear all the "you got scammed...blablabla" I'm aware of the risks
The reason I'm posting this:
1. For other people to see; if this is NOT just a mistake or delay I consider this a red flag for what's coming next "and I admit I gambled and lost"
2. If they're still processing the payments & I have just to wait a little bit more, I want the dev to respond to this message here, and clarify the situation

Literally hundreds upon hundreds of payments were processed yesterday. This morning there is another inbox full and will take another 9 hours to clear but yesterday everyone who had sent in their info had been processed by the time I went to sleep-

Email your info to Token Sale <tokensale@bitcoingrowthbot.io> and it will be processed right away. If you already have sent your info it is possible it got buried. Please resend it and I will take care of it for you. I appreciate it.




I don't really get it, it's written nowhere that we need to send an email after we purchased NCL on Waves. Could you make a step-by-step tutorial what to do after buying NCL on Waves?


If you purchased in the pre-sale on Waves DEX there is nothing else to do. If you purchases reserved tokens you have been emailed what to do.

Once the pre-sale is complete everyone will be notified on how to claim there sign up and referral bonuses.



I'm really sorry to bother you with this newbish question, but what exactly do you mean by "reserved tokens"? If I but orders on Wave before they were listed there?

reserved tokens were tokens that were sold even before the ones allocated to the Waves platform.

Here are the phases of the sale:

1) Reserved tokens. (You had to send BTC to an address and write an email to Jordan to receive these.)

2) Pre ICO tokens. (Started on Friday and are available on the Waves platform)

3) ICO tokens. Has not started yet.

All of this is written in the forum and in telegram so there is no excuse if you are a newbie or not. You have to do your homework and READ THE THREAD. Sorry to yell like this but people are not going to be repeating themselves forever. All the information is here, and if you want to invest in something you should read it all before you invest.

48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Swarm Fund 2.0 - Cooperative Ownership Platform for Real Assets on: December 04, 2017, 08:24:50 AM
Guys, tell me please. I just can not find the information I need. How much is one token and on what exchanges are traded? Thank you in advance

It is now available in Etherdelta

https://etherdelta.com/#SWM-ETH

Extremely low volume though since this is a decentralized exchange and not a lot of people use it.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 30, 2017, 02:53:50 PM
This man has come here and shouting as if he is blowing some whistle. He feels that he is unfolding a great secret which nobody here is aware about. His intentions may not be malicious, but its obvious that he does not have any proof of his accusation other than the simplicity factor.

I like the analogy of him coming here and shouting as if he is blowing some whistle.

His intentions are malicious.

Here is the note he sent me before posting, https://s18.postimg.org/k6ms3i2pl/Screen_Shot_2017-11-30_at_8.06.41_AM.png

Wow, this is very sad if true. Well, let us not waste time with noise. Time to focus on the ICO and potential incredible things to come! Good luck to us all.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 30, 2017, 10:36:42 AM
BIG SCAM & FAKE TOKENS, SO DONT INVEST in bitcoingrowthbot.io

Hello! friend ,
dont invest in bitcoingrowthbot.io (NCL COIN), Because its a fake coin.
This Admin using waveswallet & in waveswallet any user can create fake
token in only 1 Wave Fee (about 5 USD). There You can check & create
your token with any name in with in seconds buy paying only 1 wave
fee. So take care fully.
Check here waveswallet website https://waveswallet.io/ with below Screen shot.

https://image.prntscr.com/image/dCFhVqf7Rd_2xLKdOdd-cw.png


Nothing wrong with using a service to build on top of it. Of course we still don't know if Jordan can deliver or not. But if he scams us all, at least we know who did it:)

Yea its easy to create waves token but it doesn't mean its a scam but it is easy way to scam people without much technical knowledge

Is ERC20 token creation much harder?

That is definitely true did-man. Definitely ERC 20 tokens require a little bit more knowledge. But nothing out of the extraordinary either. Specially when you use these types of services https://coinlaunch.market/ . You can literally create a new coin and launch an ICO in minutes.

I guess this is a blessing and a curse at the same time. It is extremely easy to scam people but if you have a good idea and you can present it well it is up to people to decide if they want to invest or not. I liked a few things that Jordan posted on the site, I liked the choice of words he chose and that is about it. I put in $500 bucks because I am willing to pay $500 to see his hand. Maybe he is bluffing and that was my loss, or maybe he is really not bluffing and we both win.

But it is my decision and it should be my responsibility to do the research and try to figure out the risk. No one is going to hold anyone's hand in this space. Read a lot, learn how to do your own research and learn how to think for yourself. This is the whole point of decentralization. There is no nanny state to take care of any body here.
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 30, 2017, 08:42:42 AM
Every one can create there shit coin in only 5 USD. there after no exchange, no lending no thing other. dont be & save to your & your contact's money from this scamer.

Sure, let's not accuse people just because it is easy to create a 5 dollar token on a platform though. If you have any actual prove he is a scammer few free to state your facts, but shouting the guy is a scammer because anyone can create a token in the wave's platform is a bit overboard.

Thanks for letting us all know that it is very easy to create a token in the wave's platform, that is good to know. Besides that, there is enough noise on the internet as it is for people to just accuse other people out of nothing. Let's not waste each others times with empty accusations

Thanks
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] EXTENDED => ~$900k SWARM FUND! BOUNTY INCREASED 50%! NEWCOMERS WELCOME! on: November 30, 2017, 08:19:13 AM
Hot off the press!
A great interview by our CEO Philipp Pieper during our October Token Sale Week, at Money 20/20 Las Vegas.

http://www.fintech.finance/fintech-tv/philipp-pieper-swarm-fund/

Thanks for the updates!
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 30, 2017, 08:09:25 AM
BIG SCAM & FAKE TOKENS, SO DONT INVEST in bitcoingrowthbot.io

Hello! friend ,
dont invest in bitcoingrowthbot.io (NCL COIN), Because its a fake coin.
This Admin using waveswallet & in waveswallet any user can create fake
token in only 1 Wave Fee (about 5 USD). There You can check & create
your token with any name in with in seconds buy paying only 1 wave
fee. So take care fully.
Check here waveswallet website https://waveswallet.io/ with below Screen shot.

https://image.prntscr.com/image/dCFhVqf7Rd_2xLKdOdd-cw.png


Nothing wrong with using a service to build on top of it. Of course we still don't know if Jordan can deliver or not. But if he scams us all, at least we know who did it:)
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] EXTENDED => ~$900k SWARM FUND! BOUNTY INCREASED 50%! NEWCOMERS WELCOME! on: November 29, 2017, 07:46:12 AM

Do you have any exchanger site that swarm token listed, As of now its only on etherdelta.
Do you have any plan listed on hitbtc or any exchanger site.

For legal reasons the team can't really comment on exchanges. So right now we just have to wait.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Swarm Fund 2.0 - Cooperative Ownership Platform for Real Assets on: November 27, 2017, 06:02:01 PM
Swarm now has its own place in Jaxx wallet:) It looks really nice.
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 27, 2017, 02:58:29 PM


I have no doubt demand for Nucleus coin will skyrocket  with this CEO as long there is a functioning platform.



Polling on ERC20 Vs Waves is pointless, everyone is for ERC20. Just create ERC20 tokens, i haven't heard anyone flavouring Waves apart from its so easy to create token


I agree with didi-man here. Waves seems great for a fast bootstrap, but if you want something a bit more flexible, with greater adoption and more developed I think Ethereum is the way to go. Not to mention that Waves has not even implemented their smart contracts.

Do you really need 7-8 people in a team, i m thinking all other platforms have maybe 2-4 people max, you wanna as fewer people as possible, too many moving parts leads to failures.

I'm not sure I agree. Depending on the complexity of the platform 2-4 people is definitely not enough. But I'm not sure which platforms you are talking about here. I do agree that most of the work can be outsourced so no need for a big full time team.

Do devs have to physically be in SF area, can you work with people from around the world? Yes i guess but its risky


It does not have to be risky. If a person is only creating the design of the platform, there is pretty much zero risk in what he is doing and he definitely does not to be working from San Fran.
Same thing with a smart contract's developer (if Jordan decides to take this route).

IMO this type of project is best run with trusted group of people you have known for a while, employing 10 random strangers can lead to disasters, any of these guys can potentially  steal coins, btc, algos, personal data and run off starting his own biz.

It is all about how much access you give to people. Of course the most sensitive parts could either be hard coded and managed by smart contracts, eliminating the need of trust all together, done by multiple people (like using a multi sig. account to access large funds) or just by one person. But then the whole community needs to trust one person and the whole point of this type of tech is so that we don't need to trust anyone.

In other words, I guess it all depends on what is the final goal of the platform. If the main idea is just to make the trading bot's trades transparent then maybe all this is over kill. Then maybe the best is to just:
- Create a waves token that will be used on the platform.
- Develop the platform in a centralized way (like Bitconnect)
- Have users register to that platform and enable them to lend and claim NCL tokens from that platform.
- Let users trade the tokens in Waves' decentralized exchange.

I think that later on, the community (the ones who have stake in the system) can start putting their heads together and through some sort of liquid democracy decide how the platform can add value to its eco-system. A little bit like Dash style. But I guess we could do that later, once there is plenty of cash to be spent in more development.

57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 27, 2017, 08:57:58 AM

Nucleus coin founder Jordan Lindsey, quick search comes up with interesting results

Sound like he is a typical trading Forex guru, lot of negative reviews and questionable 5 start reviews.

Since he was so unsuccessful at Forex what make him so sure he can deliver 1% daily return in crypto?

He sensed opportunity for some quick buck


DYOR




http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-reviews/387/www.jcls-forex.com?per-page=50&sort=rating


http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/community/threads/jcls-forex-com-jordan-lindsey.1194/


http://www.tradebinaryoptionsrobot.com/blog-aggressive-gains-review-a-scam-by-jordan-lindsey


Skills

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanlindsey

Technical Analysis Currency FX trading Trading Trading Strategies Trading Systems BrokerageDerivatives Electronic TradingInvestment StrategiesFinancial MarketsFX OptionsEmerging MarketsHedgingForeign ExchangeEquitiesBloombergOptionsPortfolio ManagementAsset ManagementETFsAlternative InvestmentsHedge FundsBondsCapital MarketsInvestmentsFixed IncomeCommodityProprietary TradingEquity TradingEquity DerivativesInvestment BankingForeign Exchange (FX) OptionsFX Trading


Hmmms! Exactly what I was thinking.

The user agreement is extremely pushing away from USA and yet, everything about this dude shows him residing inside USA! Seems strange, unless he plans to live in Japan during the launch ICO. lol

The site is a complete rip of BITCONNECT with only the text edited in what likely is photoshop.

. . . . On to the next . . . .


The COMPANY has to be outside of the United States. The SEC (Securities And Exchange Commission) does not extend its power beyond the United States. The guy that came up with the idea can live anywhere he wants. Please do your homework before posting none sense.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 26, 2017, 06:38:43 PM


Is it too late to switch to ERC20 since some people already purchased Waves tokens



Jordan needs some assistance, can we see bot in action at least so we can build team around it

If I understand correctly the waves tokens haven't even been created yet. I suppose Jordan could still create the waves tokens and use them as a reference to swap to ERC20 tokens later.

It would probably be a pain to do all that, but maybe it would be worth it. Another option is to simply not create the waves tokens and just go directly to ERC20 tokens.

It would probably take a bit longer to achieve but I suppose it would be worth the wait. The platform would be able to take advantage of smart contracts and it would also support the Ethereum network.

These are just thoughts though, it might be moving away too much from the original plan. After all, this is suppose to be the Bitcoin Growth Bot and not the Ethereum Growth Bot.

Which come to think of it... maybe it would not be a bad idea to have both:)
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 26, 2017, 12:44:52 PM


If you are open to suggestions make this a community project.


I am not sure how that would work. It seems it would a full time job trying to organize everyone in itself.
Have you seen this type of community project work anywhere else? I would like to look into that more.
As well as if you have any expanded ideas on what that would look like.

We would definitely need to use something like github, Asana or maybe even try https://aragon.one/ for the project management aspect. I've been using Asana for a few years now, and I think it is an amazing tool for collaborative project management.

I know Aragon is on its alpha phase so I'm not really sure how usable it is. I will try to dload it and play with it. Maybe it can be used.

Since the project is yours, you should probably have the final say (at least in the beginning, maybe we can later implement a liquid democracy type system to develop the project further), but we as a community can come up with different suggestions and discuss them openly and you can use that information to make an informed decision about how to proceed.

I agree that it is very easy to give opinions from outside and just criticize the work of others, but I think we all here want the system to function as best as it can. After all, we will all have a stake in this system.

At this moment it seems that there are a few concerns regarding the ICO.

1 - Is the ICO being too rushed?
2 - Should the token be an ERC20 token?
3 - Should the ICO happen through a smart contract instead of Waves?
4 - I'm sure solidity developers and others would love to work on this project and get paid in NCL tokens alone, that being said, isn't it better to build the platform first and then go for the ICO?

In my opinion, the most important aspect of the ICO is for the platform to get enough tokens sold so the trading bot can start bringing daily returns. This way more people will want to join in and purchase NCL and more value the token will have. Classic Bitconnect style.

Thoughts?
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] on: November 26, 2017, 12:20:45 PM
Bitcoin Growth Bot, found here: https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e is only and first lending platform where the CEO makes himself known and available for scrutiny. He has already done live interviews.  You can look him up on Linkedin and research his track record in related businesses. I personally verified his companies and place of business with the California Secretary of State.

I'm also doing an in-depth background check on the CEO and I will share this info with anyone that signs up using my referral link below.

Bitcoin Growth Bot is also the only lending platform where you can verify the trading activity of the bot.  The is the first real lending platform that is not a scam.

Sign up using the following referral link https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e and you will receive not only 20 NCL Nucleus Tokens for free from the platform but you will get an additional 10 NCL Nucleus Token from me for free as well. A total of 30 NCL Nucleus Tokens worth $22.50 USD for free.

This is the only link that can be used to receive the 10 additional NCL Nucleus Token bonus for free.

https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e

After signing up and verifying your email, just send an email to referralrefund10@gmail.com and you will receive instructions to get your additional 10 NCL tokens when available.
Selling information you dig online is a pretty cheap way of getting referral links. I believe in putting the information out first and then if people think you did a good job they will happily sign under you. This is completely against the idea of openness and transparency of the blockchain. Thumbs down.

I'm not selling anything. I'm giving something for FREE which I spent a lot of time an effort to compile, some of which I had to pay for.  If anyone is interested in signing up with this program (as I am) then why not sign up where you can get the most value. I'm willing to share my research regarding the responsible parties so if by some chance the platform turns out to be a scam, at least those that signed up under my referral link https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e will have enough information on the scammer(s) to pursue the matter legally. Not to mention, signing up with me will yield you 50% more FREE NCL tokens than if you sign up elsewhere.

I lack the eloquence and skills of a Youtuber or a blogger, I have no other means to bring value to the table to incentivize others to sign up under my referral link and I have invested money and time to bring that value to you for FREE. So stop hating and click on the link below to get the most value and efficiency out of what you are going to do anyway if you intend to use their platform.

Personally, I would not endorse Bitcoin Growth Bot if I did not think it was legit.

Click below to sign up and get maximum value that you cannot get anywhere else:

https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e


It's all good. Not hating in any way. I was just expressing my opinion, that I'm not a big fan of this approach but to each his own. Did not mean to upset anyone.
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