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to be honest, curious how those project continues with the regulation and realising their plan, it's kinda hard and sometimes, doesn't sound realistc atleast from my opinion. frankly, noone of them show us a significant progress of the project. and there's strict regulation regarding this field as many have spoken, could they continue their project as planned?.
one thing that get me confused, how the apply blockchain to healtcare and such?
I specialist in healthcare ICOs and do full analysis (you see many other posts I do). For Medcredits: 1) In white paper they show no legal restrictions to international telemedicine except Malaysia 2) Medcredits 100% decentralised. Like many thing (Augur, Golem) if 100% decentralised can not be shut down. I say do not be afraid regulation. Whole blockchain field very new and in future will beat regulation. This is point of blockchain movement. 3) I think you must read MedCredits white paper if you ask how apply blockchain to healthcare. This is idea of Medcredits and why project very smart |
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why this project need blockchain and what neuron token do?
This project has same problem as Bowhead health. You not prove that technology even work before trying to use blockchain.
AI chatbot not used in medicine right now because technology not good yet. Please, you must prove to ICO investor that AI chatbot work before taking money.
This project saying: we build project to talk to aliens and now we use blockchain. But we no know if aliens exist!
So far I not give money to this. I also can not find white paper to read about.
Have a look at our demo videos. This all is possible with our technology and it is quite advanced already. We will soon release a working version of our Selfie2BMI app, you will be able to test for yourself. Hello, I read white paper (I recommend put on website home page not on token sale page). I not expert in AI but understand problem like this: we have AI algorithms and algorithm need large data and large computing power to solve problem that human not find easily I have many question 1) why can average person help with provide large data. average person maybe provide data like calories, walking, heart beat, maybe glucose test. But this very small data and not making many predictions from it. In Radius example - I think giving diary of seizures is not helpful data to cure epilepsy. I see we generate useless data. So I say Selfie2BMI app not very useful. Maybe just for fun but not make business money or help solve medical problem. We still need private company/hospital/doctor to give data. Genomic test company or brain doctor for Radius. Even blood test like in "robo-profile" you need private lab to do test. Robo-profile/robo-genomics/hematology it look like it take data and make prediction. Nice app but will need I think doctors and medical devices to help patients put data to app. Now you have problem to make partnership with blood lab in every countries, with EMRs in whole world, with genomic companies across world. Very hard to get all data to the patient in doc.ai app. Summary: nice to say patient "own data", but I think really they "buy data". Patient cant make helpful data on own. Recommendation: look to Medcredits (MEDX) ICO. They making 100% decentralized platform for patient to make own data. Maybe you partner with MEDX and this solve problem #1. 2) large data storage and computing power: what your plan to store data? iphone not going to store 100TB genomic data. then, how AI algorithm use computing power of iphone. Iphone not strong. Maybe you must make partnership but technology not exist right now for decentralized computing. Golem still take 5-10 year to help doc.ai. Maybe you store data decentralized but so far no iphone app to do this. 3) Legal problems. Doc.ai very new and now making medical recommendation. If patient have heart attack because doc.ai get confused and change patient medications how this work? I think still many years before we have good laws to allow this. So far doc.ai maybe help doctor but medical decision must come from doctor. I think doc.ai have many problems today if it bypass doctor. Summary: reason 2) + 3) why I say before that technology not work yet. I think doc.ai have good company but I no buy ICO because I think still 5-10 year for doc.ai to make me money  Recommendation: ICO maybe bad model for funding big complex project. Or maybe bad for small ICO investor like me 4) Neuron token. Who it incentivize? I not understand (maybe this part I am wrong and I need explanation) Patient - I see they pay money to do many tests and get data from private company (they do this now already if they want genomic test or blood test) then they sell data for neuron token? Doctor/research - they pay patient in neuron to get the data from patient? so doc.ai hurting research because now they lose money to patient? Blockchain token important for consensus or trust payment. So what neuron token really do? No summary/recommendation - maybe explain to me more. The only thing NEURON and MEDX have in common is that they are doing their ICO at the same time. But that is where the comparison stops. We do not believe that the “average” person who needs healthcare is powerless without the medical corporations. We do not believe that "average" people are unable to collect medical data ourselves nor that this data would be useless. We do not believe that we do not have the right to own our data, that we have to buy it. We do not believe that doctors are not willing to share the decisions about healthcare with their patients. We do not believe that these ideas put us outside of the law, certainly not in the USA. But I will tell you what we do believe. The biological profile of the near-future will be consumer-controlled, AI-powered and data-centric. It will be algorithmic rather than symptomatic, bottom up rather than top down, consumer facing rather than doctor facing, quantitative rather than qualitative. It would be wrong to think that the Blockchain revolution that is now going on is only about technology, or storage, or about computing power or about consensus mechanisms. These are only means to serve the goal: a new philosophy, a belief system that gives people the tools to empowerment, the guarantee that it cannot be taken from them forever, that it cannot be broken and that nobody can come and shut it down. I disappointed with answer. I agree overall idea you saying, but you not answer questions. Only talk philosophy. So easy question: How today I get blood test without #1) doctor prescribe me #2) nurse to take blood with needle and put into tube with potassium oxalate as an anticoagulant and sodium fluoride as a preservative and #3) lab corporation to process blood and give results How patient create data without medical corporation? How you "give people the tools to empowerment". Everybody poke themself at home with needle and have lab in his house?? I think you dreaming of future but plan not realistic. This simple blood test. What about MRI machine or genomic testing or nuclear medicine test (everybody have radioactive tracer in home??). Let me explain the magic. You go to wellnessfx.com, order your blood test on your phone. The site will give you an address close to your location where you go in and a friendly phlebotomist takes blood samples while talking to you. When you wake up the day afterwards, the blood values are in your phone with explanation and ranges. The same goes for sequencing your genome, pharmacogenome or microbiome: you go to veritasgenetics.com, receive instructions in the mail, the results also appear in your phone or computer. There is a world of atoms and a world of bits. We are the bits, you are the atoms. You poke in our arms, we interpret and send you the data. And we both use machines to do this. Yes, so patient "buy" data from wellnessfx.com. It take 78$ to get basic blood test. App only importing data from corporation. Patient not generating data without help of corporation. Also now patient pay cash for blood test but if they have insurance and doctor prescribe then insurance make much cheaper. Now step 2: How data go from wellnessfx.com to doc.ai app? Doc.ai have partnership with wellnessfx.com? Please also explain to me what neuron token do. Who it help? I still no understand deep down the details. Indeed, the app does not generate data without the corporation that performs the blood test. Importantly, our app give you control of this data, and interprets it for you the way you can understand it easily without the need to go to a doctor. If your doctor is alway accessible to you, if it does not bother you to keep going to the doctor all the time for blood test results then you might not need our app. Our app allows users to get control of their data, of their biological profile more generally, and interprets it in a way that is easily understandable without a need to constantly consult a medical professional. More details on the role that NRN token plays in the system will be released in the private placement memorandum and the token economics documents that are expected to be published tomorrow. I like idea of machine learning. I see how patient need to have own data. I see app can gather data from corporation/doctor. I think you have problem with big data storage and big data processing...but this problem you can fix in future. I think big problem today is you try to replace doctor. This problem have 2 reasons: Reason 1: Still legal problem. Machine learning algorithm all new. It make mistake and patient get hurt or die. Remember tesla car crash from machine learning failure. This 100% happen. Patient will die and doc.ai have lawsuit and maybe this hurt doc.ai future a lot. Be careful not to hurt patient with too big confidence in algorithm. Reason 2: Doctor mainly control patient data today. If you say too much you try to replace doctor, doctor will not agree too much work with you. Like we agree, you only import data and you rely on corporation/doctor for data. Doc.ai need many many MANY partnership to gather data. You must be nice to doctor so they allow app to import data. Solution: Work WITH doctor. Patient see doctor and get answer and then doc.ai see same data and give answer. Maybe 5 years doc.ai have time to learn and then it legal to replace doctor. But will not happen without doctor agreeing to share data. This why I tell you partner with MedCredits (MEDX). They doctors who can help you get data and teach algorithm to work and compare answers with real doctor. They want patient to have data and they help to connect patient to doctor/corporation to generate data. Now you tell me you have doctor on team...this not same thing. Doc.ai need agreement from 1000s doctor around world to give data. This what Medcredits can help you to do. Healthcare very complicated. If you make war against doctors and no cooperate with doctors I think you have big problem to make doc.ai success. Good advice?  |
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why this project need blockchain and what neuron token do?
This project has same problem as Bowhead health. You not prove that technology even work before trying to use blockchain.
AI chatbot not used in medicine right now because technology not good yet. Please, you must prove to ICO investor that AI chatbot work before taking money.
This project saying: we build project to talk to aliens and now we use blockchain. But we no know if aliens exist!
So far I not give money to this. I also can not find white paper to read about.
Have a look at our demo videos. This all is possible with our technology and it is quite advanced already. We will soon release a working version of our Selfie2BMI app, you will be able to test for yourself. Hello, I read white paper (I recommend put on website home page not on token sale page). I not expert in AI but understand problem like this: we have AI algorithms and algorithm need large data and large computing power to solve problem that human not find easily I have many question 1) why can average person help with provide large data. average person maybe provide data like calories, walking, heart beat, maybe glucose test. But this very small data and not making many predictions from it. In Radius example - I think giving diary of seizures is not helpful data to cure epilepsy. I see we generate useless data. So I say Selfie2BMI app not very useful. Maybe just for fun but not make business money or help solve medical problem. We still need private company/hospital/doctor to give data. Genomic test company or brain doctor for Radius. Even blood test like in "robo-profile" you need private lab to do test. Robo-profile/robo-genomics/hematology it look like it take data and make prediction. Nice app but will need I think doctors and medical devices to help patients put data to app. Now you have problem to make partnership with blood lab in every countries, with EMRs in whole world, with genomic companies across world. Very hard to get all data to the patient in doc.ai app. Summary: nice to say patient "own data", but I think really they "buy data". Patient cant make helpful data on own. Recommendation: look to Medcredits (MEDX) ICO. They making 100% decentralized platform for patient to make own data. Maybe you partner with MEDX and this solve problem #1. 2) large data storage and computing power: what your plan to store data? iphone not going to store 100TB genomic data. then, how AI algorithm use computing power of iphone. Iphone not strong. Maybe you must make partnership but technology not exist right now for decentralized computing. Golem still take 5-10 year to help doc.ai. Maybe you store data decentralized but so far no iphone app to do this. 3) Legal problems. Doc.ai very new and now making medical recommendation. If patient have heart attack because doc.ai get confused and change patient medications how this work? I think still many years before we have good laws to allow this. So far doc.ai maybe help doctor but medical decision must come from doctor. I think doc.ai have many problems today if it bypass doctor. Summary: reason 2) + 3) why I say before that technology not work yet. I think doc.ai have good company but I no buy ICO because I think still 5-10 year for doc.ai to make me money Recommendation: ICO maybe bad model for funding big complex project. Or maybe bad for small ICO investor like me 4) Neuron token. Who it incentivize? I not understand (maybe this part I am wrong and I need explanation) Patient - I see they pay money to do many tests and get data from private company (they do this now already if they want genomic test or blood test) then they sell data for neuron token? Doctor/research - they pay patient in neuron to get the data from patient? so doc.ai hurting research because now they lose money to patient? Blockchain token important for consensus or trust payment. So what neuron token really do? No summary/recommendation - maybe explain to me more. The only thing NEURON and MEDX have in common is that they are doing their ICO at the same time. But that is where the comparison stops. We do not believe that the “average” person who needs healthcare is powerless without the medical corporations. We do not believe that "average" people are unable to collect medical data ourselves nor that this data would be useless. We do not believe that we do not have the right to own our data, that we have to buy it. We do not believe that doctors are not willing to share the decisions about healthcare with their patients. We do not believe that these ideas put us outside of the law, certainly not in the USA. But I will tell you what we do believe. The biological profile of the near-future will be consumer-controlled, AI-powered and data-centric. It will be algorithmic rather than symptomatic, bottom up rather than top down, consumer facing rather than doctor facing, quantitative rather than qualitative. It would be wrong to think that the Blockchain revolution that is now going on is only about technology, or storage, or about computing power or about consensus mechanisms. These are only means to serve the goal: a new philosophy, a belief system that gives people the tools to empowerment, the guarantee that it cannot be taken from them forever, that it cannot be broken and that nobody can come and shut it down. I disappointed with answer. I agree overall idea you saying, but you not answer questions. Only talk philosophy. So easy question: How today I get blood test without #1) doctor prescribe me #2) nurse to take blood with needle and put into tube with potassium oxalate as an anticoagulant and sodium fluoride as a preservative and #3) lab corporation to process blood and give results How patient create data without medical corporation? How you "give people the tools to empowerment". Everybody poke themself at home with needle and have lab in his house?? I think you dreaming of future but plan not realistic. This simple blood test. What about MRI machine or genomic testing or nuclear medicine test (everybody have radioactive tracer in home??). Let me explain the magic. You go to wellnessfx.com, order your blood test on your phone. The site will give you an address close to your location where you go in and a friendly phlebotomist takes blood samples while talking to you. When you wake up the day afterwards, the blood values are in your phone with explanation and ranges. The same goes for sequencing your genome, pharmacogenome or microbiome: you go to veritasgenetics.com, receive instructions in the mail, the results also appear in your phone or computer. There is a world of atoms and a world of bits. We are the bits, you are the atoms. You poke in our arms, we interpret and send you the data. And we both use machines to do this. Yes, so patient "buy" data from wellnessfx.com. It take 78$ to get basic blood test. App only importing data from corporation. Patient not generating data without help of corporation. Also now patient pay cash for blood test but if they have insurance and doctor prescribe then insurance make much cheaper. Now step 2: How data go from wellnessfx.com to doc.ai app? Doc.ai have partnership with wellnessfx.com? Please also explain to me what neuron token do. Who it help? I still no understand deep down the details. |
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Walter de Brouwer was the CEO and co-founder of Scanadu. He was at the head of the company when they launched their indiegogo campaign for the Scanadu - Scout medical reading device. This indiegogo campaign reached record funding and production began. The FDA eventually did not approve the use of this product, and the units were no longer in production. Walter de Brouwer eventually stepped down as CEO in 2016. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/scanadu-scout#/http://medcitynews.com/2016/12/scanadu-shutting-down-tricorder/My question, have the investors - or indiegogo campaign investors, received any type of refund for the Scanadu Scout campaign? Thank you for information!
"De Brouwer became the CEO of doc.ai, a mysterious healthcare startup with a website featuring an animation dressed as a healthcare professional that wants to be an “AI for health”. |
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Hello, I do analysis doc.ai and find many problem. For community: please read and decide but dev give very bad answer and not discuss my question Summary: doc.ai smart idea but they no have good plan to make work. I not invest. See post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2117440.40For community: If have healthcare ICO you like me to analyze I do for you!
So far: 1. MedCredits (MEDX) 2. Medibond (MEDI)
3. Doc.ai (NRN)
4. Bowhead Health (AHT)
5. Patientory (PTOY)
6. Care4Me (CareCoin) |
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why this project need blockchain and what neuron token do?
This project has same problem as Bowhead health. You not prove that technology even work before trying to use blockchain.
AI chatbot not used in medicine right now because technology not good yet. Please, you must prove to ICO investor that AI chatbot work before taking money.
This project saying: we build project to talk to aliens and now we use blockchain. But we no know if aliens exist!
So far I not give money to this. I also can not find white paper to read about.
Have a look at our demo videos. This all is possible with our technology and it is quite advanced already. We will soon release a working version of our Selfie2BMI app, you will be able to test for yourself. Hello, I read white paper (I recommend put on website home page not on token sale page). I not expert in AI but understand problem like this: we have AI algorithms and algorithm need large data and large computing power to solve problem that human not find easily I have many question 1) why can average person help with provide large data. average person maybe provide data like calories, walking, heart beat, maybe glucose test. But this very small data and not making many predictions from it. In Radius example - I think giving diary of seizures is not helpful data to cure epilepsy. I see we generate useless data. So I say Selfie2BMI app not very useful. Maybe just for fun but not make business money or help solve medical problem. We still need private company/hospital/doctor to give data. Genomic test company or brain doctor for Radius. Even blood test like in "robo-profile" you need private lab to do test. Robo-profile/robo-genomics/hematology it look like it take data and make prediction. Nice app but will need I think doctors and medical devices to help patients put data to app. Now you have problem to make partnership with blood lab in every countries, with EMRs in whole world, with genomic companies across world. Very hard to get all data to the patient in doc.ai app. Summary: nice to say patient "own data", but I think really they "buy data". Patient cant make helpful data on own. Recommendation: look to Medcredits (MEDX) ICO. They making 100% decentralized platform for patient to make own data. Maybe you partner with MEDX and this solve problem #1. 2) large data storage and computing power: what your plan to store data? iphone not going to store 100TB genomic data. then, how AI algorithm use computing power of iphone. Iphone not strong. Maybe you must make partnership but technology not exist right now for decentralized computing. Golem still take 5-10 year to help doc.ai. Maybe you store data decentralized but so far no iphone app to do this. 3) Legal problems. Doc.ai very new and now making medical recommendation. If patient have heart attack because doc.ai get confused and change patient medications how this work? I think still many years before we have good laws to allow this. So far doc.ai maybe help doctor but medical decision must come from doctor. I think doc.ai have many problems today if it bypass doctor. Summary: reason 2) + 3) why I say before that technology not work yet. I think doc.ai have good company but I no buy ICO because I think still 5-10 year for doc.ai to make me money Recommendation: ICO maybe bad model for funding big complex project. Or maybe bad for small ICO investor like me 4) Neuron token. Who it incentivize? I not understand (maybe this part I am wrong and I need explanation) Patient - I see they pay money to do many tests and get data from private company (they do this now already if they want genomic test or blood test) then they sell data for neuron token? Doctor/research - they pay patient in neuron to get the data from patient? so doc.ai hurting research because now they lose money to patient? Blockchain token important for consensus or trust payment. So what neuron token really do? No summary/recommendation - maybe explain to me more. The only thing NEURON and MEDX have in common is that they are doing their ICO at the same time. But that is where the comparison stops. We do not believe that the “average” person who needs healthcare is powerless without the medical corporations. We do not believe that "average" people are unable to collect medical data ourselves nor that this data would be useless. We do not believe that we do not have the right to own our data, that we have to buy it. We do not believe that doctors are not willing to share the decisions about healthcare with their patients. We do not believe that these ideas put us outside of the law, certainly not in the USA. But I will tell you what we do believe. The biological profile of the near-future will be consumer-controlled, AI-powered and data-centric. It will be algorithmic rather than symptomatic, bottom up rather than top down, consumer facing rather than doctor facing, quantitative rather than qualitative. It would be wrong to think that the Blockchain revolution that is now going on is only about technology, or storage, or about computing power or about consensus mechanisms. These are only means to serve the goal: a new philosophy, a belief system that gives people the tools to empowerment, the guarantee that it cannot be taken from them forever, that it cannot be broken and that nobody can come and shut it down. I disappointed with answer. I agree overall idea you saying, but you not answer questions. Only talk philosophy. So easy question: How today I get blood test without #1) doctor prescribe me #2) nurse to take blood with needle and put into tube with potassium oxalate as an anticoagulant and sodium fluoride as a preservative and #3) lab corporation to process blood and give results How patient create data without medical corporation? How you "give people the tools to empowerment". Everybody poke themself at home with needle and have lab in his house?? I think you dreaming of future but plan not realistic. This simple blood test. What about MRI machine or genomic testing or nuclear medicine test (everybody have radioactive tracer in home??). |
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I think perhaps two projects that we're going to connect to the Healthcare System. I don't know what happened with them, but obviously they're dipping into a business that has a high amount of Regulation. Bitcoin is not much popular in healthcare business yet.
Nothing more regulated than financial industry and this we see successful today already. Full decentralized application like Bitcoin cannot be closed down by even US government look to bitlicense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitLicenseGovernment make very difficult to start company in New York City but does this stop bitcoin companies? You know answer! Same thing to healthcare. I not afraid of regulation if application decentralized. Sad to say but I see many centralized healthcare ICOs like Patientory and Bowhead. Look to MedCredits (MEDX)...look like they will make 100% decentralized and will not be shut down ever  It's a tough nut to crack, and I would say that any project that even got to the first level of approval through the healthcare industry would not become a live functioning project, for at least a couple years until all of the regulation and systemizing was worked out. Not if decentralized project. Decentralized project not able to shut down. MedCredits without centralization. |
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why this project need blockchain and what neuron token do?
This project has same problem as Bowhead health. You not prove that technology even work before trying to use blockchain.
AI chatbot not used in medicine right now because technology not good yet. Please, you must prove to ICO investor that AI chatbot work before taking money.
This project saying: we build project to talk to aliens and now we use blockchain. But we no know if aliens exist!
So far I not give money to this. I also can not find white paper to read about.
Have a look at our demo videos. This all is possible with our technology and it is quite advanced already. We will soon release a working version of our Selfie2BMI app, you will be able to test for yourself. Hello, I read white paper (I recommend put on website home page not on token sale page). I not expert in AI but understand problem like this: we have AI algorithms and algorithm need large data and large computing power to solve problem that human not find easily I have many question 1) why can average person help with provide large data. average person maybe provide data like calories, walking, heart beat, maybe glucose test. But this very small data and not making many predictions from it. In Radius example - I think giving diary of seizures is not helpful data to cure epilepsy. I see we generate useless data. So I say Selfie2BMI app not very useful. Maybe just for fun but not make business money or help solve medical problem. We still need private company/hospital/doctor to give data. Genomic test company or brain doctor for Radius. Even blood test like in "robo-profile" you need private lab to do test. Robo-profile/robo-genomics/hematology it look like it take data and make prediction. Nice app but will need I think doctors and medical devices to help patients put data to app. Now you have problem to make partnership with blood lab in every countries, with EMRs in whole world, with genomic companies across world. Very hard to get all data to the patient in doc.ai app. Summary: nice to say patient "own data", but I think really they "buy data". Patient cant make helpful data on own. Recommendation: look to Medcredits (MEDX) ICO. They making 100% decentralized platform for patient to make own data. Maybe you partner with MEDX and this solve problem #1. 2) large data storage and computing power: what your plan to store data? iphone not going to store 100TB genomic data. then, how AI algorithm use computing power of iphone. Iphone not strong. Maybe you must make partnership but technology not exist right now for decentralized computing. Golem still take 5-10 year to help doc.ai. Maybe you store data decentralized but so far no iphone app to do this. 3) Legal problems. Doc.ai very new and now making medical recommendation. If patient have heart attack because doc.ai get confused and change patient medications how this work? I think still many years before we have good laws to allow this. So far doc.ai maybe help doctor but medical decision must come from doctor. I think doc.ai have many problems today if it bypass doctor. Summary: reason 2) + 3) why I say before that technology not work yet. I think doc.ai have good company but I no buy ICO because I think still 5-10 year for doc.ai to make me money Recommendation: ICO maybe bad model for funding big complex project. Or maybe bad for small ICO investor like me 4) Neuron token. Who it incentivize? I not understand (maybe this part I am wrong and I need explanation) Patient - I see they pay money to do many tests and get data from private company (they do this now already if they want genomic test or blood test) then they sell data for neuron token? Doctor/research - they pay patient in neuron to get the data from patient? so doc.ai hurting research because now they lose money to patient? Blockchain token important for consensus or trust payment. So what neuron token really do? No summary/recommendation - maybe explain to me more. |
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I think perhaps two projects that we're going to connect to the Healthcare System. I don't know what happened with them, but obviously they're dipping into a business that has a high amount of Regulation. Bitcoin is not much popular in healthcare business yet.
Nothing more regulated than financial industry and this we see successful today already. Full decentralized application like Bitcoin cannot be closed down by even US government look to bitlicense: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitLicenseGovernment make very difficult to start company in New York City but does this stop bitcoin companies? You know answer! Same thing to healthcare. I not afraid of regulation if application decentralized. Sad to say but I see many centralized healthcare ICOs like Patientory and Bowhead. Look to MedCredits (MEDX)...look like they will make 100% decentralized and will not be shut down ever |
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Hello Medcredits (MEDX) having ICO October. Check ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2101348.0First smart healthcare ICO and coming to get minimum 200 billion market cap in telemedicine. Check dev team they real doctors from #1 medical university in US; very good business plan in the white paper; they pick telemedicine which very good blockchain application; you check white paper and see very smart smart contract If you want 1000x gains, I think MEDX can do this. |
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Dev please answer question: how do you store big data on chain? this not possible. community must know if project not possible.
In white paper I see:
"The limitation of the blockchain to host private information may be overcome through data obfuscation, such as encryption, but in the event that the decryption key is ever leaked, there is no way to remove the sensitive data itself from the blockchain"
"we implement a mechanism for the persistent storage of sensitive information through the use a private implementation of an Ethereum based blockchain"
but then I see:
"The HIPAA compliant storage facility hosts the actual data"...what is HIPAA compliant storage facility and who owns the hardware? who pays for the data storage?
"Patients are given an allotted amount of space to store information for free on the Patientory network". how you give storage for free? what you mean store on the network?
So far I read white paper many times and I think it still no make sense.
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Healthcare industry have no big projects. Muti-trillion dollar industry is still waiting for big coin. I am specialist in only healthcare project and I find Medcredits. I think Medcredits (MEDX) is best healthcare project. Upcoming ICO. Smart devs are doctors from best medical university in US. They combine blockchain with telemedicine. Very easy to get over billion dollar market cap and this is just beginning. Let us watch and see what happens. Healthcare industry easily will make 1000x profits if good project. www.medcredits.io is website and dev answer all questions on ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2101348.0 |
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Sadly there is no safe way to invest in ICO's, they are still new and rather unregulated. But the best thing you can do is do your homework into the company and make your own judgement as with any investment. I would also pick a project that you are personally interested. If you know the market personally, you are more likely to know what to look for. For me here are a few signs to look for in a ICO:- - Strong team - Both in development team and also the CEO's / marketing (no point having a great team to create something, if nobody can advertsie it and push the startup in the right direction. - Realistic vision - not aiming too high or if they do not reach their target everyone who invested will be disappointed - Solid whitepaper - Well thought out, shows realistic goals, a strong good vision and a plan of action - Strong social media presence - A social media that shows they are connected with everyone - Good customer support - Shows they care, and they have invested time and money into making sure the average investor can ask questions - Good website - A business who is willing to throw time and effort into a good website are less likely to be a scam - finite supply - ICO's with no cap can be dangerous and can simply just damage their own coin by releasing more for more investment. -Market they are getting involved with - Is this a new market? or a dying one? who controls the market? Finally - Good concept and catchy name - A good ethos and a name that makes them stand out. Personally i would avoid anything that is something "coin". If these are in place, then it's a good sign. I am looking at Crowdholding at the minute, seems like a good upcoming ICO (They are in their pre-sale), which means you can get more for your investment. https://ico.crowdholding.com/Look to MedCredits (MEDX)! Best healthcare ICO coming soon. I maybe go all-in Strong team: doctors from best medical university in US! One doctor I think is brain surgeon  Realistic vision: start on teledermatology. easy app to just send photo. use openbazaar github and have working product quickly Solid whitepaper: very beautiful white paper and describe business plan, market and technical blockchain use. also white paper not sounding confusing like many other white paper that try to sound smart but just hiding behind big words Strong social media presence: good blog, active on ANN, have reddit and very good twitter posts on telemedicine Good customer support: answer every question on ANN very quick Good website: I like website. You can see it is very nice www.medcredits.ioFinite supply - they say 100 million MEDX Market - telemedicine 200 billion market and this only the beginning of project. telemedicine is cash only so do not need health insurance to overcome. Good concept and catchy name - MedCredits very catchy. Like Gamecredits which make everyone big big profits. Good concept of course with telemedicine on blockchain. |
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Looking like a thread which will be shilled upon but I'll answer the original question. I've seen a coin called Care4Me which directly connects healthcare services through blockchain technology for faster solutions.
There are more than just one but I just picked this as I've read all about it and thought it would account for easily accessible healthcare solutions.
Thank you, I did not see this project before. I review white paper and have seen many flaws. Main flaw as investor is that they use coin as giveaway for loyalty/gift-card so that nurses/customers use platform. They try to get people to use platform by giving away coin for free. Coin have no chance of profit when you think about it. If care4me dev need money to promote application they should apply to grants but not take ICO investor money. You are welcome if I save you from losing money I have full report here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1990545.420If disagree we can discuss or maybe care4me dev will answer questions and I am wrong but I don't see that I am wrong today |
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Hello, a few questions after reading white paper:
1) for nurse onboarding: according to video "care 4 me staff review the information" and according to white paper "Certification of Nurses' professional qualifications by independent reviewers". I confused...who does onboarding? and who pay them?
2) For paying nurses: who pay nurses for the job? according to video "insurance provider did not cover care management service". Main problem is with insurance provider yes? Where money comes from ... care4me does not solve the problem?
3) From white paper: "Unlike other blockchains out there, the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) allows the software developer to perform programming actions of any
complexity right on the chain, visible to the public". what programming function you are using? can you show community some smart contract?
4) from white paper: "Customers who use the nursing services will be awarded coins as loyalty points". how do you award coin? do you own all coins and give away to customers? why would investor buy coin if you give them away to other people and coin always lower and lower value?
5) from white paper: "Performance rewards to nurses will use coins, similar to gift-card programs". same as 4). you give coins away?
Care4me you say is like uber and I agree! Uber is private company. uber review drivers and have private server. uber do not need blockchain. Care4me is private company like uber and do not need blockchain.
You try to take money from ICO investor with ERC-20 token but purpose of coin only to give away coin for free so that nurses and customer use app in the beginning.
Please explain why ICO is good investment and not donation
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It's not that easy to predict about ICO. First we need to see every detail bout the ICO and then we may decide whether it is going to be worth 1000x or not. There is no ICO which has given back that much of the returns in few months of period. The ICO needs to be backed up with good team and then in,y we can say there is a chance but no garuntee that ICO will make us that much profits.
Yes, I agree. We can just do research and then wait and hope. Also if project fall behind promises then we sell. Even after ICO I look for progress. We wait to see details of MEDX ICO but team, business idea and blockchain use case for telemedicine in white paper is very smart. I also do not think 1000x in a few months of period. I think 1000x in years of long term hold. For MEDX I hope maybe 1000x in 3 years according to road map. |
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Big problem: we don't know if device work. If you do research you will find out about Theranos company that failed to make same device with 400 million dollar. Technology not working yet. Now Bowhead try to use blockchain and ICO money?? People will lose money in this ICO.
I take from wikipedia::
Theranos is an American privately held health technology company based in Palo Alto, California. The company is known for its marketing of its efforts to create blood tests that used small sample volume technology. It was founded in 2003 by Elizabeth Holmes at the age of 19.[2] By 2014, Theranos had raised more than $400 million in funding with an estimated[by whom?] value of $9 billion.[3][4]
In 2015, Theranos received negative news coverage due to concerns about the effectiveness of its technologies. In June 2016, the company's net worth was estimated to be $800 million.[5] In July 2016, Theranos received sanctions from the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) including the revocation of its CLIA certificate and prohibition of the owners and operators from owning or operating a lab for two years.[6] Theranos announced that it would close its laboratory operations and wellness centers to work on miniature medical testing machines in October 2016.[7]
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